The anime character gives you away... but why someone would play such a dull grind as Archlord I cannot grasp. Even monkeys would get bored playing it, no matter what amount of bananas they got as reward.
While i cant agree with the OP since i havent played the game, but ill say this.... potion spamming is the reason why i wont play/try this game. It ruins gameplay imo. Gameloading, you make it sound like its potion spamming system, or wait 10-20 secs between fights...isnt there any other solution in your mind??
Because i have played high lvl pvp in tantra (my first and last grindfest game) and if the two players where equally in skill, the guy with the most potions won. (only in one vs one duel) this was not a problem in kvk aspect of the game tho, since you had more than one toon on you, so you couldnt spam fast enough
Originally posted by Canis It sucks in every department from the endless potion spam, to the lame animations, static mobs with no real AI, lame PvP. Archlord is another lame asian MMO... leave it alone. Do not support developing crap. Do not support this game. Please!
Your right, it deserves a score better than a 5.9. How about a 7.9? ^^
Just because YOU think it's lame, does NOT mean everyone else does.
Many of us love and enjoy this game. We like playing it, and so guess what? We're going to play it.
If YOU feel that this game is "crap" fine, that's your problem, not the rest of ours. But honestly, grow up. Calling it names and putting a game down that so many like doesn't make you look good.
Go play something else if you hate it. I see NO point what so ever in putting a game down at all.
Originally posted by BesCirga While i cant agree with the OP since i havent played the game, but ill say this.... potion spamming is the reason why i wont play/try this game. It ruins gameplay imo. Gameloading, you make it sound like its potion spamming system, or wait 10-20 secs between fights...isnt there any other solution in your mind?? Because i have played high lvl pvp in tantra (my first and last grindfest game) and if the two players where equally in skill, the guy with the most potions won. (only in one vs one duel) this was not a problem in kvk aspect of the game tho, since you had more than one toon on you, so you couldnt spam fast enough
It is NOT a potion spamming game.
You CANT spam potions. They heal over time, and by the way, that time is rather long. They heal slowly and it does NOT help you at all in pvp. And they heal for crap. You're dead within 10 seconds anyways.
If there are two players of around equall lvl, the potions will NOT help. One of you is still going to die under 15 seconds.
How can you say this is a potion spamming game, when you haven't even played?.....Right, Next!
I called it a potion spamming game because 1. mostly all others on this forum call it that. 2. potion is the only way to heal in the game (correct me if im wrong).
May I ask two questions..? how long is reset timer on heal potions? .... AND Do every player/fanboy answer like this?
I didnt even attack the game! only game i attacked in some way was tantra I bet the community ingame is precious...lol
Originally posted by BesCirga I called it a potion spamming game because 1. mostly all others on this forum call it that. 2. potion is the only way to heal in the game (correct me if im wrong). May I ask two questions..? how long is reset timer on heal potions? .... AND Do every player/fanboy answer like this? I didnt even attack the game! only game i attacked in some way was tantra I bet the community ingame is precious...lol
You call it a pot spamming game because the other idiots call it that? LOL.
Yes, potions is the only way to heal. But it isn't cheap. And they don't really help, even in pve.
Reset time is over five seconds that I know of. They could of made it longer the last time I played, which is what I've been told by several people. So now it takes even longer to heal, and heals for less.
I think we have two different veiws on what potion spamming is. and btw, you are the first i have seen NOT calling this a potion spamming game, even Downloading didnt deny that fact, he only defended it!
but what do i know.. i havent played it, right?
Also it sounds to me from what you are saying that the healing system in the game is broken. if the thing that should heal you doesnt heal enough to help in pve, whats the point?
Originally posted by BesCirga /shrug I think we have two different veiws on what potion spamming is. and btw, you are the first i have seen NOT calling this a potion spamming game, even Downloading didnt deny that fact, he only defended it! but what do i know.. i havent played it, right? Also it sounds to me from what you are saying that the healing system in the game is broken. if the thing that should heal you doesnt heal enough to help in pve, whats the point?
Potions are heal over time. Add this together with the cooldown effect and you create a system that won't allow you to spam potions like you may be able to do in other games, and both enemies and other players can outdamage the rate that you're using them.
Originally posted by Canis It sucks in every department from the endless potion spam, to the lame animations, static mobs with no real AI, lame PvP. Archlord is another lame asian MMO... leave it alone. Do not support developing crap. Do not support this game. Please!
So correct me if I am wrong...you don't like AL and you don't want us to support it....is there anything else you want us to do or not to do..is there a MMORPG that you like and want us to play...like Hello Kitty?
Originally posted by BesCirga While i cant agree with the OP since i havent played the game, but ill say this.... potion spamming is the reason why i wont play/try this game. It ruins gameplay imo. Gameloading, you make it sound like its potion spamming system, or wait 10-20 secs between fights...isnt there any other solution in your mind?? Because i have played high lvl pvp in tantra (my first and last grindfest game) and if the two players where equally in skill, the guy with the most potions won. (only in one vs one duel) this was not a problem in kvk aspect of the game tho, since you had more than one toon on you, so you couldnt spam fast enough
There is, the invincible cheat of Warcraft 3 comes to mind :P
Well some people don't consider it spamming, I personally consider it potion spamming. You still use a load of potions in fights, and you simply can't play without potions.
However, Potion spamming in ArchLord does not lead to unbalance. its not "who has the most potions" in pvp fights, because potions are short heal over times.
Originally posted by timotybg I rated it 1/10. I was thinking for 0/10, but i couldn't make it so they took the point for... well let us say for trying to implement jewish trick in the world of the west civilization:) p.s. I am extremly happy this game is bringing CM to the bottom of the sale markets:)
wth kind of post is this?
Dec 20,1999: AC1(DT).Since then:DAoC,SB,AC2,L2,EvE,WoW,SoR ==================== Currently playing: ArchLord - L58 Knight LoTRo - L13 Dwarf Guardian
Originally posted by timotybg I rated it 1/10. I was thinking for 0/10, but i couldn't make it so they took the point for... well let us say for trying to implement jewish trick in the world of the west civilization:) p.s. I am extremly happy this game is bringing CM to the bottom of the sale markets:)
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No idea...but if I did not know any better he is comming off as a racist gamer who never liked AL and has to let everyone know?
This is really not a "potion spamming" game. If I hit 5 potions in a row I can still die. The potions give a little "kick" and then they heal a little bit over a few seconds.
Quite frankly, I like it better than just having classes whose sole purpose is to give buffs and heal and not much else. But that's just me.
As far as this game, it is similiar to Lineage 2. Not the same but similiar.
So, if you didn't like Lineage 2 you might not like this game. If you liked Lineage 2 you "might" like this game.
As far as the content, it's unfortunate that people who come from games with more quest content don't really seem to understand these types of games. They are predominantly PvP games. There is a grind of course but if you are not interested in open pvp then you just shouldn't play this game (or other games).
If I wasnt' playing Lineage 2 I "might" play this full time. I'm not entirely sold on the art design but I usually prefer the art design to these games as opposed to the western games that are made.
So, if you are interested in PvP, don't mind (like) grind and like the eastern anime influence then you might like this game.
If not... then of course you are going to think it's horrible.
But that's like saying I don't like being scared and therefore all horror movies are bad. Not at all to those who LIKE horror movies.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
Originally posted by timotybg I rated it 1/10. I was thinking for 0/10, but i couldn't make it so they took the point for... well let us say for trying to implement jewish trick in the world of the west civilization:) p.s. I am extremly happy this game is bringing CM to the bottom of the sale markets:)
wth kind of post is this?
Its the opposite of an ignorant user like this:
On Oct 7, 2006 iampieman wrote: I didnt play this but im going to give them a 10 just because im nice
Originally posted by dadown Originally posted by Ake_Gamer
Originally posted by timotybg I rated it 1/10. I was thinking for 0/10, but i couldn't make it so they took the point for... well let us say for trying to implement jewish trick in the world of the west civilization:) p.s. I am extremly happy this game is bringing CM to the bottom of the sale markets:)
wth kind of post is this?
Its the opposite of an ignorant user like this:
On Oct 7, 2006 iampieman wrote: I didnt play this but im going to give them a 10 just because im nice
The rating has jumped greatly to a 6.2
It looks like we have players that actualy know what they are doing.
Keep in mind, even at the start, ALL retails still have bugs. L2 has them still, and so does even WoW.
It will be awhile before all minor bugs are fixed. But the major ones have been fixed up rather nicely.
Some people are just way too impatient for a so called "perfect" game.
Sorry to burst all of your little bubbles, but there is no perfect game. They ALL have some minor issues, it's impossible to fix them all, and it's impossible to keep everyone happy.
Originally posted by dadown Originally posted by Ake_Gamer
Originally posted by timotybgI rated it 1/10. I was thinking for 0/10, but i couldn't make it so they took the point for... well let us say for trying to implement jewish trick in the world of the west civilization:) p.s. I am extremly happy this game is bringing CM to the bottom of the sale markets:)
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Its the opposite of an ignorant user like this:
On Oct 7, 2006 iampieman wrote: I didnt play this but im going to give them a 10 just because im nice
I referring to the religious slander, not the op!
Dec 20,1999: AC1(DT).Since then:DAoC,SB,AC2,L2,EvE,WoW,SoR ==================== Currently playing: ArchLord - L58 Knight LoTRo - L13 Dwarf Guardian
Originally posted by IdesofMarch Potions are heal over time. Add this together with the cooldown effect and you create a system that won't allow you to spam potions like you may be able to do in other games, and both enemies and other players can outdamage the rate that you're using them.
I just want to elaborate on this with an example - as a lvl32 human warrior in beta, I had around 1000 hp points when fully buffed up. The largest HP pots available heal 450 points (and are extremely expensive), and due to cooldown, and heal-over-time, optimally you can usually only manage to chug down one pot for every time your opponent hits you (in a 1-on-1 battle that is). So, if you can do more damage than 450, your enemy will run out of hp eventually.
I was doing attacks around 330 (with lvl3 skills (lvl5 is max)) - so while I wouldn't be able to outdamage a XL hp pot user, it wouldn't take much more damage to do the trick. At later levels you'll easily be able to outdamage even XL hp pots, and not everyone will even be able to afford those, and might settle for medium or large pots (150 or 250 hp respectively).
So, what it turns down to, is that potions will have a large impact early in the game where you don't do much damage in pvp - but my guess is that they wont matter much at later levels...
Totally agree with the OP. The game just didnt deliver. But as we all know the rating system here is kind of borked when it comes to the most Higlhly Anticipated Games section , The Hype Level and The Highest Ranked MMO .
Originally posted by lath456 I got into the Beta... logged in, laughed my rear end off, and removed it from my HD. Heck, I played EQ2 longer than this. Just every aspect of everything I saw was a complete turn-off...
So you're telling us your not worth listening to because you didn't actualy play the game. All you did was login in, look around and than log off.
I'd rather listen to someone who atleast makes it to lvl 15. They at least have SOME experiance in playing the game. Unlike yourself.
The movement seemed 1990ish and I felt it was intolerable.
All in all I really disliked having to spend time in the game. I found it boring and primitive. It seemed very deja vu from games I played along time ago, but instead it was thrown into the MMO arena.
I will not be the slightest bit interested in this game at all on release.
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Don't support this game because I don't like it, so you must not like it either!
Endless potion spam? I agree, waiting 10~20 seconds doing nothing after every few battles is a lot better then a system that removes potion spamming.
Lame animations, definitly agree there, because this game i know has a lot better animations, its...ehm...yeah..
and bad pvp, but ofcourse, endless battlegrounds ftw!
While i cant agree with the OP since i havent played the game, but ill say this.... potion spamming is the reason why i wont play/try this game. It ruins gameplay imo. Gameloading, you make it sound like its potion spamming system, or wait 10-20 secs between fights...isnt there any other solution in your mind??
Because i have played high lvl pvp in tantra (my first and last grindfest game) and if the two players where equally in skill, the guy with the most potions won. (only in one vs one duel) this was not a problem in kvk aspect of the game tho, since you had more than one toon on you, so you couldnt spam fast enough
Just because YOU think it's lame, does NOT mean everyone else does.
Many of us love and enjoy this game. We like playing it, and so guess what? We're going to play it.
If YOU feel that this game is "crap" fine, that's your problem, not the rest of ours. But honestly, grow up. Calling it names and putting a game down that so many like doesn't make you look good.
Go play something else if you hate it. I see NO point what so ever in putting a game down at all.
Kids these days. -.-
Independant, Shinto, Lesbian, and Proud!
You CANT spam potions. They heal over time, and by the way, that time is rather long. They heal slowly and it does NOT help you at all in pvp. And they heal for crap. You're dead within 10 seconds anyways.
If there are two players of around equall lvl, the potions will NOT help. One of you is still going to die under 15 seconds.
How can you say this is a potion spamming game, when you haven't even played?.....Right, Next!
Independant, Shinto, Lesbian, and Proud!
I called it a potion spamming game because 1. mostly all others on this forum call it that. 2. potion is the only way to heal in the game (correct me if im wrong).
May I ask two questions..? how long is reset timer on heal potions? .... AND Do every player/fanboy answer like this?
I didnt even attack the game! only game i attacked in some way was tantra
I bet the community ingame is precious...lol
Yes, potions is the only way to heal. But it isn't cheap. And they don't really help, even in pve.
Reset time is over five seconds that I know of. They could of made it longer the last time I played, which is what I've been told by several people. So now it takes even longer to heal, and heals for less.
Lol...
Independant, Shinto, Lesbian, and Proud!
/shrug
I think we have two different veiws on what potion spamming is. and btw, you are the first i have seen NOT calling this a potion spamming game, even Downloading didnt deny that fact, he only defended it!
but what do i know.. i havent played it, right?
Also it sounds to me from what you are saying that the healing system in the game is broken. if the thing that should heal you doesnt heal enough to help in pve, whats the point?
Well some people don't consider it spamming, I personally consider it potion spamming.
You still use a load of potions in fights, and you simply can't play without potions.
However, Potion spamming in ArchLord does not lead to unbalance. its not "who has the most potions" in pvp fights, because potions are short heal over times.
wth kind of post is this?
Dec 20,1999: AC1(DT).Since then:DAoC,SB,AC2,L2,EvE,WoW,SoR
====================
Currently playing: ArchLord - L58 Knight
LoTRo - L13 Dwarf Guardian
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No idea...but if I did not know any better he is comming off as a racist gamer who never liked AL and has to let everyone know?
Ok, guys...
This is really not a "potion spamming" game. If I hit 5 potions in a row I can still die. The potions give a little "kick" and then they heal a little bit over a few seconds.
Quite frankly, I like it better than just having classes whose sole purpose is to give buffs and heal and not much else. But that's just me.
As far as this game, it is similiar to Lineage 2. Not the same but similiar.
So, if you didn't like Lineage 2 you might not like this game. If you liked Lineage 2 you "might" like this game.
As far as the content, it's unfortunate that people who come from games with more quest content don't really seem to understand these types of games. They are predominantly PvP games. There is a grind of course but if you are not interested in open pvp then you just shouldn't play this game (or other games).
If I wasnt' playing Lineage 2 I "might" play this full time. I'm not entirely sold on the art design but I usually prefer the art design to these games as opposed to the western games that are made.
So, if you are interested in PvP, don't mind (like) grind and like the eastern anime influence then you might like this game.
If not... then of course you are going to think it's horrible.
But that's like saying I don't like being scared and therefore all horror movies are bad. Not at all to those who LIKE horror movies.
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I didnt play this but im going to give them a 10 just because im nice
wth kind of post is this?
I didnt play this but im going to give them a 10 just because im nice
The rating has jumped greatly to a 6.2
It looks like we have players that actualy know what they are doing.
Keep in mind, even at the start, ALL retails still have bugs. L2 has them still, and so does even WoW.
It will be awhile before all minor bugs are fixed. But the major ones have been fixed up rather nicely.
Some people are just way too impatient for a so called "perfect" game.
Sorry to burst all of your little bubbles, but there is no perfect game. They ALL have some minor issues, it's impossible to fix them all, and it's impossible to keep everyone happy.
Independant, Shinto, Lesbian, and Proud!
wth kind of post is this?
Its the opposite of an ignorant user like this:
On Oct 7, 2006 iampieman wrote: I didnt play this but im going to give them a 10 just because im nice
I referring to the religious slander, not the op!
Dec 20,1999: AC1(DT).Since then:DAoC,SB,AC2,L2,EvE,WoW,SoR
====================
Currently playing: ArchLord - L58 Knight
LoTRo - L13 Dwarf Guardian
Meh... posting error...:p
I was doing attacks around 330 (with lvl3 skills (lvl5 is max)) - so while I wouldn't be able to outdamage a XL hp pot user, it wouldn't take much more damage to do the trick. At later levels you'll easily be able to outdamage even XL hp pots, and not everyone will even be able to afford those, and might settle for medium or large pots (150 or 250 hp respectively).
So, what it turns down to, is that potions will have a large impact early in the game where you don't do much damage in pvp - but my guess is that they wont matter much at later levels...
I got into the Beta... logged in, laughed my rear end off, and removed it from my HD.
Heck, I played EQ2 longer than this. Just every aspect of everything I saw was a complete turn-off...
I'd rather listen to someone who atleast makes it to lvl 15. They at least have SOME experiance in playing the game. Unlike yourself.
Next!
Independant, Shinto, Lesbian, and Proud!
Okay, that's your right. I'm just saying the game wasn't even worth getting to level 15 in.
I tried the beta. My issue's with it.
The graphics seemed 1999ish way behind the times.
The movement seemed 1990ish and I felt it was intolerable.
All in all I really disliked having to spend time in the game. I found it boring and primitive. It seemed very deja vu from games I played along time ago, but instead it was thrown into the MMO arena.
I will not be the slightest bit interested in this game at all on release.