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No Skaven!?! whHAAAA!
cmar001
Member Posts: 25
I cant belive it, I just cant. Coming from the country that warhammer calls home, I have been a part of the fan base since its very early days and Skaven are by far my favourite race. I cant believe that it isnt going to be included as a race in the final release.
Well, I guess that leaves Skaven then as a race for a future expanssion pack, which kinda sucks. If they dont put them in at all however, Ill be very upset. 
Grrrrr...
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I mean, look at it.. The four races we have now is well developed civilizations. Heroes are plentifull within these nations, every guy have a chance to be something. Skavens are based upon.. Numbers.. The individual skaven is pretty damn weak, with only the few, very rare brutally strong guy hanging around.
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Pansies, that's what they are.
I'm a huge fan of skaven and love playing against them because they have too much fun. Too many machines getting blown to hell and casualties everywhere. Skaven are just genuine fun!
Wolf does have a good point though IMO. This game is set up for vast RvR battles across the Warhammer world. The Skaven have always been neutral/"watching their own skin" or fighting amongst themselves and to put them into play would cause some major shifts though.
They do have a few heroes but yeah, the individual Skaven warrior is weak (unless Stormvermin 
) when compared to many standard fighting warriors of the Warhammer lore. But then again, so are Goblins and they're in the game!
What Mythic could do is add a whole OTHER faction which the Destruction and Order races have to fight, ie Skaven, Lizardmen, Ogre Kingdoms, and/or Undead (Vampire Counts and Tomb Kings) to set off a whole new way to play.
...ok who the hell stole my damn warpstone?!?
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I'm a huge fan of skaven and love playing against them because they have too much fun. Too many machines getting blown to hell and casualties everywhere. Skaven are just genuine fun!
Wolf does have a good point though IMO. This game is set up for vast RvR battles across the Warhammer world. The Skaven have always been neutral/"watching their own skin" or fighting amongst themselves and to put them into play would cause some major shifts though.
They do have a few heroes but yeah, the individual Skaven warrior is weak (unless Stormvermin 
) when compared to many standard fighting warriors of the Warhammer lore. But then again, so are Goblins and they're in the game!
What Mythic could do is add a whole OTHER faction which the Destruction and Order races have to fight, ie Skaven, Lizardmen, Ogre Kingdoms, and/or Undead (Vampire Counts and Tomb Kings) to set off a whole new way to play.
...ok who the hell stole my damn warpstone?!?
Dark Elves managed to manipulate the Orcs onto their "side," the Witch King I am sure can develop a plan to manipulate the Skaven as well
I also feel it's a pitty that they don't include Skavens (and others races as well) but like said it "couldwould cause some major shifts".
But what about having unimplemented races fighting along side with already-implemented races in the same area?
- although I've always seen Skavens more like against humansEmpire).
For example: Wood Elves with High Elves Vs Dark Elves (and dark elves with some other race - skavens?
It's just an idea that probably some already thought about. What do you guys think?
Errrr... don't flame me too much if this idea is a silly one.
Yeah, no skaven at release but you're pretty much guarenteed they're going to be in the first expansion. My opinion says the lizardmen will be the best racial pairing for em but that's a couple years down the road so not worth it to get into it on the matter too much just yet (already spent way too much of my time discussing it on other forums). No worries, the rats will get into the game eventually.
Well, Skaven are creatures of Chaos and so would fit in well on the Chaos side. It would give Chaos a stealthy element that they would no doubt need. Skaven arent meant to be stand up fighters. The only exceptions are Storm Vermin and Black Skaven. Also, skaven have some of the most feared socerers in the game. You remember warp lightening and how sick a spell that was to come up against?
As for Heros, well, they have quite a few. Master assasins, Master engineers with their warp powered Claws, Grey Seers, Vermin Lords and thats just the ones that I can remember off the top of my head. They are THE iconic race of Warhammer in my humble opinion and its gonna be a crying shame they arent in the final game fromt he begining.
:cry much:
races to start the game with, I think I would have chosen the same. The
picked races are more iconic for warhammer then skaven is...
someone said skaven would be too weak to fight alone in the big world?
well you can be a gobbo so I think that is nothing to worry about...
Goblins and Rats are both damn weak, but the Skaven are smarter...
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is very true. You can play Goblins and they arent as tough as Skaven
are. But, I do hope they put Skaven into the game at some point. Id
love to se Rattling Guns in action in an MMO. :P BOOM!!!!
yes,
I would love to see them in game too, in fact I would love to see ALL
Warhammer races ingame. But that will probably take some time...
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Being very new to the WARHAMMER games, I was reading at the website of Warhammer : Mark of Chaos and saw races like the Skaven (but no Orcs?). If Mythic could get them out, what race would be their enemy?
Too early to even ask the devs, but I do wonder how they will release expansions. Will they just offer additional races that can enter in both faction areas just to disrupt things or will they have a choice to join up with Order or Destruction?
I am trying to immerse myself in Warhammer lore, any good sites out there you all like?
I just see this game as the next real biggie if they deliver on what they promise ( aint that always the case?).
The ease of getting into the fun, the whole concept of everyone contributing to their side for the war vs self advancement agendas like " I need to camp for this uber loot". And to able to see an ongoing war dynamic even while you are in a newbie area.. Other games just provide a nice backstory, but once you are playing I get the perception I have little involvement with it at all.
Heres to hopin!
Skaven have usually been at the opposite ends of most "Good" or the Order races of Warhammer. They're big rivalries of the Dwarves and Humans of the Empire. They don't mix too much against the Elves as far as I can remember since they're a subterranian race.
A big recent development is Skaven have gone against the Lizardmen over in Lustria with the spread of the Plauge Clan (forgot their exact name but I remember Clan Moulder, Eshin, and Skyre
). They could put Skaven into the Destruction side and the Lizardmen into the Order.
Theres lots of information and cool lore that isn't going to be implaced into W.A.R. I'd reccommend going to the official Games Workshop site and looking around at the different races and games they have.
www.games-workshop.com
Besides being a Warhammer fanatic, I'm also 50% excited what Mythic is actually trying to do with the game itself. They could use different lore or make DAOC 2 with this same game format and I'd be just as excited. I like the idea of actual race and faction advancement as well because it helps promote a positive, constructive community to play in. No longer will you have to compete with opposing Dwarf Warriors for that one weapon or suit of armor. Sure you're going to have to do that but the overall concept of everyone helping the same faction is going to really be put into the spotlight.
Even if this game doesn't have as good an interface as say WoW or PvP like DAOC, I'll still play for the sheer enjoyment of the Warhammer!
Thanks for your time!
You can also pay a visit to the Games Workshop site wich describes all the races/armies.
Regarding what StuntyCrusha said: yeah you're right, now that I think of it, Wood Elves Vs Beastmen and the rest of the faction Vs faction that you've listed makes all sense to me. Because I was actually wondering what the Wood Elves race would go against with.
Looks like according to the new concept art the Skaven will at least be NPCs for now.
http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/conceptArt/