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Left Wing or Right Wing...What are you?
outfctrl
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It seems I get blasted allot on here because of my beliefs, so I am
curious on what the majority of people on here are and why you feel
like this.
For those that need some guidance:
Left wing -The people and groups who advocate liberal, often radical
measures to effect change in the established order, especially in
politics, usually to achieve the equality, freedom, and well-being of
the common citizens of a state.
Right Wing - A descriptive term for an individual or a political faction
that advocates very conservative policies. Right-wing groups generally
support free enterprise In the United States, the right wing generally
argues for a strong national defense program and opposes federal
involvement in promoting social welfare.
Thanks all
curious on what the majority of people on here are and why you feel
like this.
For those that need some guidance:
Left wing -The people and groups who advocate liberal, often radical
measures to effect change in the established order, especially in
politics, usually to achieve the equality, freedom, and well-being of
the common citizens of a state.
Right Wing - A descriptive term for an individual or a political faction
that advocates very conservative policies. Right-wing groups generally
support free enterprise In the United States, the right wing generally
argues for a strong national defense program and opposes federal
involvement in promoting social welfare.
Thanks all
Comments
I generally consider myself somewhere in the middle, it all depends on the issue. I don't vote for a party, I vote for an idea (or ideas). I tend to take pieces of both- I am very conservative on issues such as national defense, but very liberal when it comes to things such as stem cell research. So it really depends.
As for you getting blasted, I've read most of your posts. The reason you tend to get blasted is because of your support for GW Bush, who is largely disliked by the majority of liberals, middlemen, and many conservatives, plus almost all non Americans everywhere :P Though to be honest I'm not sure I can blame them. (For not liking GW, not blasting you- just to clarify)
Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy
Right wing here.
The enviroment to create wealth and the means to protect it is the solution to 99% of all my concerns.
I am a Bobby Kennedy Left Wing Liberal Democrat:
I believe in a strong central federalist government to administer social programs for the citizens while regulating free enterprise from moving toward it's natural monopolistic state. If left unchecked capitalists tend to overabsorb capital. Eg: the rail, industrial, and steel barons of the late 1800's/early 1900s. If you were Joe everyday working class you owed your soul to the company store. The government should work for all the people, not just the political donor class, and the 5 monopolistic oil companies.
I believe in a strong national defense to prevent wars. Nobody ever rationally goes out and intentionally takes on the tough guy. You don't tread on Superman's cape, you don't spit into the wind, you don't pull the mask off the lone ranger and you don't mess around with a anyone named Big Bad Jim. FDR, JFK and LBJ were also strong on defence.
I believe in tax increases to stabilize our budget deficit, with future spending directed not a pork, but at repair and replacement of our nation's infrastructure...that is, roads, sewers, water distribution, bridges, electrical grid, etc. It has not kept up with the increasing usage/population since the initial outlay in the 1950s. If left to the conservatives, with their tax cut priorities, this will never get done due to the human nature concept of "leave it for others". I would also like to see my tax dollars utilized for a viable space program to learn, explore, and hopefully develope new products that will benefit mankind.
Equality is not a liberal concept. The liberal concept is to provide a safety net for those less fortunate citizens, whether it be a health care safety net, a minimum wage safety net, or a guarantee of affordable housing, a meal in their belly, and clothes on their back. A liberal realizes that equality is unachieveable, but that the privileged have a social obligation to help those less fortunate than them. Unlike the neo conservative Christian Coalition, that feels it is up to the individual to decide whether to help those less fortunate, or make that SUV payment. What would Jesus do/drive, General Motors had an ad campaign in which they said he'd buy the biggest SUV he could to transport his disciples. A liberal believes that Jesus would take public transportation.
Freedom is a liberal concept, the freedom to be an individual and not have to meekly slink around the herd in fear. Eg: The freedom to be openly black, gay, religious or not religious.
Bobby Kennedy told an audience of college students that he wanted affordable education for minorities. They asked him how he was going to pay for it, and he flat out told them the money was coming from them, because they were the privelged class of society. Bobby Kennedy was also an advocate for Civil Rights, and, in the riots following Martin Luther King's assassination, went out and spoke to a black audience to reassure them there would not be one step back. Bobby Kennedy was also strong against crime, as Attorney General he went after Hoffa and the mob. Bobby Kennedy saw the futility in the Vietnam War, and was pro withdrawal, as was Nixon. Today, neo-cons bury their head in the sand and call anyone for withdrawal unpatriotic, rather than admit it's the wrong war, at the wrong time, in the wrong place, being fought for the wrong reason, with the wrong strategy. And daddy Bush, Nixon, and Clinton were for a balanced budget, not unchecked spending based on borrowing. Nixon also imposed price controls to check inflation. I love it, using neo con logic daddy Bush and Nixon were pinko liberals!
I admit that the Democratic party has lost touch with it's roots, and long for the day of the return to the ideals of Bobby Kennedy in the 1960s. The far left hijacked the Democratic Party, and the far right has hijacked the Republican Party, and insanity prevails. Nobody represents the working class in America today, and that is one reason voter apathy prevails. All we get each election is a choice between Cancer and Polio.
I'm neither, but I'm not technically 'middle'. I'm a conservative-liberal, a libertarian. A minarchist to be exact. I believe in a minimal state. The government should provide protection from foreign and domestic crime and nothing more. No welfare, no public healthcare, no affirmitive action, etc. etc. etc.
Our government does WAAAAAY to much. It has far too much power over what we can do and say.
EDIT: I'm basically the exact opposite of the post before me.
The modern MMORPG is simply not worthy, of the acronym RPG. The straight grind and lack of atmosphere leave me with no choice. From this day forth, World of Warcraft, Everquest 2, and all the games like them shall be referred to as PIGCRAP. People In Guilds Constantly Raiding And Power-leveling
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I thought every wannabe tough guy makes a bee line straight for him. As long as you present a threatening or aggressive posture, violent people will be drawn to you.
In the wolf pack, it is the alpha male that fights the most, not the least. Everybody wants to take a shot at the tough guy's title.
I'm a Libertarian, who keeps a pocket copy of the US Constitution readily available.
As for US politics:
Democrats have lost the ideal of Kennedy: Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. As Chris Rock would say 'Just rub some taxes (Tussin') on that'.
Republican have accrued too much political debt to the Religious Right. Anyone who believes the Party stands for fiscal responsibility needs to look no further than the recent Highway Bill.
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
A majority of Americans now say they would like to see new parties to challenge
the Democrats and Republicans, but our current single-member district system
makes it almost impossible for such minor parties to succeed. It requires that a
candidate get a majority or plurality of the vote to get elected -- and by
definition, most minor party candidates cannot attract that many votes.
Potential minor party supporters quickly realize that to vote for a minor party
candidate who cannot win is a waste of their vote -- and so they reluctantly
switch to a more "realistic" major party candidate. This plurality barrier
explains why virtually all of the more than thousand minor parties started in
the U.S. during the last two hundred years have died out relatively quickly.
So, with that said......
How many parties in Europe actually get on the Ballot?
Here in the US there is usually only three.
ok....Lets keep the voting out of it since our Euro friends are different then the US.
Im a fiscal liberatarian and a social conservative.
My current most hated political scams;
1.) eminent domain- Unless its used to buldoze the crack houses next to my neighborhood (just joking of course).
2.) activist judges - (power belongs to the people and their elected reps to make the country what it is or isnt. Not a group of appointed judges)
The Romans fought the Celts because they wouldn't back down. They couldn't be bought. Two tough guy nations battling it out for the title. Most of the Celtic tribes didn't fight. Only the hardnuts. The Zulu's did the same with the British. Most of the Zulu nation did not exterminate eachother they united peacefully under the dominant tribe.
Russians and Americans have been pointing guns at eachother for the entire cold war. Spoiling for a fight. There have been countless proxy wars throughout the cold war period. To this day there is still friction between the two cultures, each one obsessed by their own superior military prowess. Each Military geared to destroy any rival.
The dominant male has to fight off contenders to maintain diominance, the dominant society the same.
If I try walking through a high crime area with a bulletproof vest and an AK47, the police will attack me. A violent posture attracts violence.
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I thought every wannabe tough guy makes a bee line straight for him. As long as you present a threatening or aggressive posture, violent people will be drawn to you.
In the wolf pack, it is the alpha male that fights the most, not the least. Everybody wants to take a shot at the tough guy's title.
if your talking about the USA its never EVER won a war on its own. So you carnt be saying that its a tough guy
Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy
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I thought every wannabe tough guy makes a bee line straight for him. As long as you present a threatening or aggressive posture, violent people will be drawn to you.
In the wolf pack, it is the alpha male that fights the most, not the least. Everybody wants to take a shot at the tough guy's title.
if your talking about the USA its never EVER won a war on its own. So you carnt be saying that its a tough guy
I wasn't talking about the U.S.A. specifically, but rather tough guys. The U.S.A. however is a VERY tough guy. I bet it's won more than a few wars on it's own.
(Perhaps Indian wars, Cuban, Mexcian, Panama, Civil, etc).
However I do agree, mostly we don't fight wars alone. We gang up together for success.
you get old enough, you will have to pick a party and vote. If
you dont vote, you have no right to complain about whoever wins or
voice your opinion to a voter.
I'm an independant, I commit to no political party or ideal. I might favor one over the other but I will not be labeled by some general term. I'm pro abortion, pro capitalism, pro-social healthcare, guess I want it all
It's better be hated for who you are, than loved for who you aren't.
Liberatarian. There are other parties than republicrats and they actually have *gasp* brains. We are capitalists that believe in a live and let live policy. Democrats are commies and republicans are nazis. And they're all freakin retarded.
Citizens should vote on the person, not the party. For example, I detest the religious right in the Republican Party, but I still support the few Republicans that follow a more libertarian policy. If Republicans return to the Party that Barry Goldwater envisioned, than maybe I could support the Party as a whole.
The same could be said for a few Democrats.
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
Saying that voting for third parties is throwing away your vote is exactly the thing that we need to get rid of. For almost every voter I know, voting is picking the lesser of two evils. As a college student, most of my friends are liberals. In the last presidential election, my friends had a real problem. They didn't like Bush because he was a Republican, but they wouldn't vote for Kerry because he was a douche. I think most of them ended up voting for Bush, because they thought him the lesser of two evils, and I think that's the truth.
Most people are, in fact, most closely labeled as Libertarians. They may not like the Libertarian party, but the core beliefs are there. It's just a shame so many people feel they are throwing away their vote. Even a small percentage of the vote means a lot, such as government funding for the next election.
The modern MMORPG is simply not worthy, of the acronym RPG. The straight grind and lack of atmosphere leave me with no choice. From this day forth, World of Warcraft, Everquest 2, and all the games like them shall be referred to as PIGCRAP. People In Guilds Constantly Raiding And Power-leveling