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WoW's first whole guild banned

LiddokunLiddokun Member UncommonPosts: 1,665

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraft/news.html?sid=6160983

First WoW guild that got their whole guild banned for exploiting a raid content. And if you think Sony is notorious for banning whole guilds ...

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  • RinicRinic Member Posts: 715
    They deserved it.


  • Jester365Jester365 Member Posts: 25

    Congratulations to them.

  • I guess people are probably full of righteous indignation, but for me this is just sad.  Sad that they feel that was necessary.  They just wanted to save some time.  Sad on so many levels.  It wasn't even a hack for an actual fight.


    Sigh.  To me this is what is wrong with many MMORPGs in a nutshell sorta.
  • MoongloMoonglo Member Posts: 101

    Originally posted by gestalt11
    I guess people are probably full of righteous indignation, but for me this is just sad.  Sad that they feel that was necessary.  They just wanted to save some time.  Sad on so many levels.  It wasn't even a hack for an actual fight.


    Sigh.  To me this is what is wrong with many MMORPGs in a nutshell sorta.

    You are right. It wasn't a hack for a fight. It was a HACK TO BYPASS what they were supposed to fight in order to get the rewards of killing the bosses. In my opinion thats just as bad or worse.  I understand it gets old, and that is Blizzard's fault for designing post-60 content so poorly except for raiders. I was a raider for a year and a half until my new job didn't allow me as much free time to spend on the computer. I've been there and done that 1000 times though.

    You can only borrow so many ideas from other games and companies until you have to actually come up with something good yourself. End Game in WoW is NOT good for the most part.


    Bottom line they deserved it, aka they are cheaters, and WoW is an extremely poor designed game post 60.

    To your 2nd statement:

    What is wrong in MMORPG's today is that they are being invaded by masses of kids (and adults) who have not been well educated as to what is right and what is wrong.  People who think its ok to cheat to further your agenda, its just not ok to be caught.  When caught they take the attitude that you took.  Well it's someone elses fault. They MADE me do this. Then they get people who like you, who defend and condone their actions  ( not flaming you here honestly, just making a point).

    It's a viscious circle and it's only getting worse thanks to our world leaders and role-models showing it to be so through their poor actions and choices.

    This is true in real life and carries over into the games we play. 


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  • LiddokunLiddokun Member UncommonPosts: 1,665
    I agree.. Ahn'qiraj is such a tedious poorly designed dungeon that you need massive amount of time sink clearing trash mobs to get to the meaty boss that drops the good stuff. However I think cheating in an mmo is reprehensible and they are justly banned. There is no justification for cheating, if you think the dungeon not worth the massive effort for the drop then don't do it.
  • InflictionInfliction Member Posts: 1,115
    I just can't believe the lack of new content Blizzard releases considering the massive revenue the game brings in. Sure, they kinda scrape by with what they release, but they could easily release new content on a weekly basis and end up with the best MMORPG to date... And I'd probably still be playing the game. But they don't, so neither do I.


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  • JorevJorev Member Posts: 1,500
     It's raiding, what do you expect.

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  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    ROFL  image

     

    I usually think that cheating is bad, however when it come to a lame-foreign-gameplay enforced on peoples who want to rightfully enjoy grouping, I side with cheaters who try to avoid raiding.  To the Abyss with Blizzard!  image

     

    See, these peoples, all they did, they try to avoid a nasty foreign gameplay enforcement, because they want to be good either in grouping or PvPing.  They are like CG thieves fighting a LE system.  Blizzard brought it on themselves.

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  • ljfsevenljfseven Member Posts: 65

    As I always say, "if you can't beat em, cheat em"

     

    My guild when I played WoW was disbanded for offensive name, may I ask is  Test Tube Babies   offensive to anyone here?  lol

  • DhaemanDhaeman Member Posts: 531
    Hrm...I don't blame them. If the only enjoyable part of playing is
    fighting the bosses then in the context of WoW I think that's fine.
    Obviously there has to be a penalty cause it is cheating but really,
    what does it matter. PvP is meaningless so the only reason to get
    better loot is to make these boss runs a little bit easier and prepare
    you for the next raid dungeon. And you can't sell the loot anywhere so
    if it's useless to the guild then the item is worth as much as a rusty
    dagger.  It's not like wall hacking or aim botting in an FPS that
    actually creates a less enjoyable experience for others.


  • JackcoltJackcolt Member UncommonPosts: 2,170
    God you must be a sorry POS to have to cheat in game so ridiculously skillless as WoW


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  • GorukhaGorukha Member Posts: 1,441
     HAAAX !!!  


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  • PrecusorPrecusor Member UncommonPosts: 3,589

    Ooops

  • modjoe86modjoe86 Member UncommonPosts: 4,050
    Taking advantage of a broken system is ban-worthy? That's news to me.


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  • ParaTrooperParaTrooper Member Posts: 1,961



    Originally posted by modjoe86
    Taking advantage of a broken system is ban-worthy? That's news to me.


     "decided to install some stupid thing that deletes walls or something".

    *Notice: The views expressed in this post are solely those of the author... got sick of holding backspace.
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  • PrecusorPrecusor Member UncommonPosts: 3,589

    The devs fixxed the exploit so it doesnt work anymore.. but this what they did

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8633973161089723869

  • ApocalypticaApocalyptica Member Posts: 491
    In every mmorpg will stuff like this happen, well in every offline game it is happening too. Its not really news now. It is sad that instead of reporting it, actually use the exploits and stuff, but this is humanity. Happen irl as well. Me, I don't use exploits and stuff, not in my nature because I am programmer for games myself. I will always report bugs and the like.

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  • SylocSyloc Member Posts: 92

    You can't blame WoW for this... in fact you should praise WoW for this. WoW is the only company that does this on a consistant basis. And, you know, if someone is gaining an unfair advantage Blizz is the ONLY company that will do something about it.

    Bu tthen again their the only company that can afford to do it.

    Don't blame Blizz for it's lack of end game content, you're still playing the game so it's your fault. I quit after the 1000th raid.

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  • PrecusorPrecusor Member UncommonPosts: 3,589



    Originally posted by Syloc

    You can't blame WoW for this... in fact you should praise WoW for this. WoW is the only company that does this on a consistant basis. And, you know, if someone is gaining an unfair advantage Blizz is the ONLY company that will do something about it.
    Bu tthen again their the only company that can afford to do it.
    Don't blame Blizz for it's lack of end game content, you're still playing the game so it's your fault. I quit after the 1000th raid.
    -Syloc



    Is that a FACT?
  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857



    Originally posted by Syloc

    You can't blame WoW for this... in fact you should praise WoW for this. WoW is the only company that does this on a consistant basis. And, you know, if someone is gaining an unfair advantage Blizz is the ONLY company that will do something about it.
    Bu tthen again their the only company that can afford to do it.
    Don't blame Blizz for it's lack of end game content, you're still playing the game so it's your fault. I quit after the 1000th raid.
    -Syloc




    Bah, you're looking in all the wrong places then fool. It does not take a lot of money to run a tight ship when it comes to exploits, and there are plenty of companies that do it all of the time, and much faster than Blizz did when responding here.

    Let me put it to you this way, the last time an org exploited in Anarchy Online (that was years ago), Funcom did NOT ban the entire guild. They deliberately went through and dealt with each and every one of those involved, not just everyone who happened to have been recruited. Inside of a day, the exploit in question was no longer possible.

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  • brutotalbrutotal Member Posts: 276
    And blizzard takes the easy answer once again, ban them all.






  • GreyfaceGreyface Member Posts: 390

    If your content is so lame that people will risk their accounts to avoid it, there's a problem.  Don't get me wrong, cheating is cheating, but this should be a wake up call to Blizzard regarding thier "endgame" content.  Your players should be having fun while playing your game (unless you're Brad McQuaid).


  • Originally posted by liddokun
    http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraft/news.html?sid=6160983 First WoW guild that got their whole guild banned for exploiting a raid content. And if you think Sony is notorious for banning whole guilds ...
    It's amazing how many replied to this thread, without READING the article! LOL! The guild members admitted they did it. That they got what they deserverd. Not only that, the guild made a video showing how they did it!

     BTW, this is a combination of an exploit, and a hack. They messed around with the game files. They made walls disappear!

     Last, if anyone feels WoW is poorly designed after level 60, then... *drumroll* ... do not play it! Do not do the 10.000 raid runs per week. Get off the WoW-crack image

     There are sooo many other hobbies out there to do! Go to the bookstore and browse for a new book to read. Post on the general off topic forums at this site asking what everyone's favorite author and book is. Enter a jogging race. Go biking. To the beach. Skiing. Scuba diving. Take courses in a new hobby. Check out a console game. Check out other mmorpgs just to see how they differ. Play some free mmorpg trials.

     Take a road trip in a car. It can be 1 day, 1 week, 1 month. Just drive as far as you can in 12 hours and see someplace new! Play football in the park with friends. WoW raiding is not the ONLY form of entertainment available.


  • IltorqueIltorque Member Posts: 30



    Originally posted by Rinic
    They deserved it.


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  • Originally posted by Greyface
    If your content is so lame that people will risk their accounts to avoid it, there's a problem.  Don't get me wrong, cheating is cheating, but this should be a wake up call to Blizzard regarding thier "endgame" content.  Your players should be having fun while playing your game (unless you're Brad McQuaid).

    Exactly.  This is cheating sure.  It is also an indictment.  Rather than fun they have made their players desperate, it is awful.  It is backasswards.  But MMORPGs are pretty neurotic.  It is sad that they cheated, it is sad that I don't blame them for doing it.

    The whole situation is pathetic and irrational.  In a sad way Blizzard did them a favor.  If they are so desparate to skip the content they should have quit WoW anyway.  But of course they don't quit because the whole system is neurotic and tied up into knots.
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