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This is not an MMO.

Sorry, but its not.

If this is an MMO, then Diablo is also.

Its just a milti player game.

Not sure why its here.


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  • YeeboYeebo Member UncommonPosts: 1,361
    Neither are several of the games over there, if you follow strict definitons. 

    PSU is a MORPG, but certainly I agree it's not really a MMORPG (the missing second M being "massive").  But really who cares?

    I think the reason that you see PSU listed here is that it was designed from the ground up with online in mind.  You have several elements not common in strait action RPGs.  For example,  one of the more fun things to do in the game is decorate your apartment and buy new cloths.  These are totally pointless activities from a stats/ levelling perspective as cloths only change your appearance (not your stats) and no-one will ever see your apartment save for friends you make in game (unless you open a store).  The game also has a real crafting system (a step up from the "socketing" system you see in most action RPGs) and the ability to add a store to your apartment so that you can sell items offline.  Any online game will have some degree of economy (just hawking your wares over the in game channels if nothing else), however PSU is set up to support it. 

    None of those things really puts that second M for "massive" in.  The only places that are remotley massive are the cities and they are basically shopping malls and hubs for your setting up your instanced missions.  But there is more to PSU than the online components of Diablo or Champions of Norrath.  Certainly PSU fits the theme of this site as well as WWII Online, Guld Wars, or DDO.



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  • COAgamerCOAgamer Member Posts: 190

    I would say its pretty massive, so is Guild Wars. But everything is in scale. Massive to some is small to others.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182



    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Sorry, but its not.

    If this is an MMO, then Diablo is also.Its just a milti player game.

    Not sure why its here.



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  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615

    According to the website, the cities can only handle about
    100 or so player each.... I don’t think that fits anyone’s book for "massive".

    As for the rest, a lobby does not a MMO make. 



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  • HerodesHerodes Member UncommonPosts: 1,494


    Originally posted by COAgamer
    I would say its pretty massive, so is Guild Wars. But everything is in scale. Massive to some is small to others.
    MM = Massive Multiplayer, not Massive Multichatting.
    If you see the 3-factions-battles in DAoC or Planetside, you may change your mind. :)

  • Rikimaru_XRikimaru_X Member UncommonPosts: 11,718

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth
    According to the website, the cities can only handle about 100 or so player each.... I don’t think that fits anyone’s book for "massive". As for the rest, a lobby does not a MMO make. 

    Actually it kinda does, think about it though....in a case. It's not a MMORPG, but who can tell what is a Massive Multiplayer is as of now. I just don't understand why Gunz is on the list. It's a 3rd person shooter with a HP bar which is so called rpg "elements". image I guess it just got added becuase it was famed for a month or 3 here, but they shouldn't be on the list becuase of the lazy people behind the game and making terrible promises.

    Wel we can't do anything about it. Lets not whine, there is a lot more games on here that isn't qualified as a MMORPG, so we just gotta deal with it.


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  • PoliceQCPoliceQC Member UncommonPosts: 40



    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Sorry, but its not.

    If this is an MMO, then Diablo is also.Its just a milti player game.

    Not sure why its here.



    who cares anyway, it change nothing to the game. maybe the game been here annoy you, if so, just leave these forums. for some others people this is a great thing to share and get info on it here.
  • hashdhhashdh Member Posts: 8
    i have to agree, this is an action-rpg with online play.

    who cares? alot of ppl honestly.

    if they buy psu (or the older pos for that matter) expecting an mmo experience, theyre not going to be happy. you cant party with more than 5 other ppl, theres no guild/clan functions, you can solo the entire game, etc etc etc

    not saying its not a good game, i in fact like it alot as im an old skool PS fan, but its not an mmorpg. 
  • HerodesHerodes Member UncommonPosts: 1,494


    Originally posted by hashdh
    i have to agree, this is an action-rpg with online play.who cares? alot of ppl honestly.if they buy psu (or the older pos for that matter) expecting an mmo experience, theyre not going to be happy. you cant party with more than 5 other ppl, theres no guild/clan functions, you can solo the entire game, etc etc etc not saying its not a good game, i in fact like it alot as im an old skool PS fan, but its not an mmorpg.
    Also have no problem, that it is no MMOG. But the points you tell, ar not necessary for a MMOG.
    Party of six -> WoW has a 5er-parties f.e.
    Guilds -> Guild wars / Diablo 2 both have clans/guilds while not being an MMOG exactly.
    Soloing -> many MMOGs have it. From DAoC to Planetside (k, FPS) to City of Heroes...whatever. :)

    For me the "massive"- aspect begins, when a party stands before a huge enemywhatever, and theres a chance, that suddenly another group joins, and one more, and another, again... so somewhere in the game world you gathered 80 man, who just crossed your way and are willing to help.
    Mmh... with this argument even WoW is not a real MMOG. ::::02:: ;)

  • psychobakapsychobaka Member Posts: 3
    Well I think the definition of an MMOG nowadays is any game where your
    character data is stored on the server, not your local computer. 
    Anyways, I think we can all agree that PSU is NOT a full-fledged
    MMORPG.  It has been advertised from the beginning as being
    focused on a single-player experience, which it delivers magnificently
    with addictive gameplay and a nice long, humerous and engaging story
    with respectable animation in the cutscenes.


    The online experience is incomplete.  The interface and layouts of
    the cities are ingenious, and gameplay itself is quite enjoyable, but
    the gameplay is severely void of content.  I've read that there's
    most likely going to be an expansion, and looking at how much effort
    was put into the online play structure (the depth of races and the
    character creation screen are quality work) as well as the existence of
    'Extra Mode,' and then seeing complete lack of effort put into online
    content, this would lead me to believe that an expansion is almost
    inevitable and, unlike the original game, will focus almost entirely on
    online content rather than single player content.  The guardian
    receptionists always say, "I'm sorry, but we currently have no missions
    available for you at this time," further suggesting content will be
    released in the future.

    Closing comment?  Enjoy the
    single-player story and gameplay, level up a character online if you
    really love paying money to grind kills, but ultimately wait for the
    expansion that'll get released probably the middle of next year before
    judging its MMORPG capabilities.


  • neuronomadneuronomad Member Posts: 1,276
    yawn, are we still bringing this up?  It is about as old as the people saying GW isn't an MMO.  

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  • grimbojgrimboj Member Posts: 2,102

    Originally posted by Herodes
    Originally posted by COAgamer
    I would say its pretty massive, so is Guild Wars. But everything is in scale. Massive to some is small to others.
    MM = Massive Multiplayer, not Massive Multichatting.
    If you see the 3-factions-battles in DAoC or Planetside, you may change your mind. :)


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  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615

    Originally posted by neuronomad
    yawn, are we still bringing this up?  It is about as old as the people saying GW isn't an MMO.  



    GW is also not an MMO, that’s a quote from the developers themselves.



    This game and GW should be removed from this site.

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  • YeeboYeebo Member UncommonPosts: 1,361

    Yes, and while we are at it, remove DDO since it uses the same basic structure as GW and PSU (city hubs pluss instances). And get rid of WW II Online, Second Life, and Planetside, since they aren't RPGs in the traditional sense. I mean this is MMORPG.com, not MMO.com.

    Oh, wait....that would be dumb since peaple actually use all of those boards. I guess we will just have to let the admins of this site do their jobs and cover games that they think are of interest to this community instead of trying to dictate what everyone that comes here has the right to discuss.

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  • NecroxNecrox Member Posts: 7

    Originally posted by Yeebo
    Yes, and while we are at it, remove DDO since it uses the same basic structure as GW and PSU (city hubs pluss instances). And get rid of WW II Online, Second Life, and Planetside, since they aren't RPGs in the traditional sense. I mean this is MMORPG.com, not MMO.com.Oh, wait....that would be dumb since peaple actually use all of those boards. I guess we will just have to let the admins of this site do their jobs and cover games that they think are of interest to this community instead of trying to dictate what everyone that comes here has the right to discuss.


    Nicely siad. I, for one, agree with you. Let the admins do their job... if people want a site that only has games that they think are worthy then they should host their own.
  • ShojinShojin Member Posts: 88

    Originally posted by hashdh
    i have to agree, this is an action-rpg with online play.

    who cares? alot of ppl honestly.

    if they buy psu (or the older pos for that matter) expecting an mmo experience, theyre not going to be happy. you cant party with more than 5 other ppl, theres no guild/clan functions, you can solo the entire game, etc etc etc

    not saying its not a good game, i in fact like it alot as im an old skool PS fan, but its not an mmorpg. 


    Try playing past level 20 and say you can solo the whole game.  The exp per level in the online mode is much more than in offline mode, offline mode is cake, its nothing compared to the online mode.  First of all the missions have level requirements, so you just cant jump into the highest one and leech off of people.  Secondly, the monster AI in this game is far better then other mmos, they're fast, they hit hard, and you can get knocked around quite easily.  If you try to solo all the monsters come after you and it ends up hurting if you're fighting stuff that actually gives you a good amount of experience.  Lastly, most games do stuff in 4-6 person parties anyway, whats the difference.

    Besides the MMO experience now a days sucks, camping, griefing, lag, guild/clan drama, boring auto attack with f1-f10 button mashing and/or macros to run your character completely.  They're all just a big time sink. Ill take my action online game over that crap any day of the week.  If I wanted mmo drama Id watch desperate housewives with my girlfriend.

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  • ValentinaValentina Member RarePosts: 2,108
    Actually, this game is A LOT more of a MMO than Diablo is, especialy with the updates.


  • Xerion12Xerion12 Member Posts: 371

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth
    Sorry, but its not.

    If this is an MMO, then Diablo is also. Its just a milti player game.

    Not sure why its here.

    gtfo troll.


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  • AnatasiaAnatasia Member Posts: 2
    Actually i prefer this kind of game than those boring game like LineAge II, ROSE ect....., I mean what type of roleplaying is full of auto attack and short cut for skill and players only have to sit tight and press F1-F12, it's really boring, my char in game like a robo not like a real char. The word MMO- Massive Multiplayer - i don't think they mean that we need 1000 or more player, but more like a lot of players can play with each others. And beside i think it's more diffcult to make and operate an full online game like this one, i believe that in the future they will more popular than those online game using mouse and auto attack like LineAge ect.....
  • AutemOxAutemOx Member Posts: 1,704

    MMORPG.com probably has the most influence in defining what a MMORPG is and isnt out of any company or person in the world.  Cant we trust them to decide where to draw the line?  There really isnt an obvious distinction between MMORPGs and other games, and there will always be games that are in those grey areas.  If MMORPG.com puts em up here image  I'm all for it!

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  • keymaster7keymaster7 Member Posts: 7
    i think its a MMORPG...cause if one town can only hav bout 100 ppl wat bout hundreds of towns add together...and most importantly its still growing b/c it has offline mode too...not all ppl hav fast internet connections and some dont even hav...and its also has monthly fee
  • xerotwoxerotwo Member Posts: 14
    I've never played this one, but I've played the 1st version, and omg that game does not deserve to be called an MMO. Their robbing people charging you money to play that thing. What a disgrace. XD

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  • xerotwoxerotwo Member Posts: 14
    HORRIBLE lol.. I mean it was the same lvl after lvl.. after lvl.. No change in monsters or anything until you reached like lvl 100 or what ever  +



    Once I found out my brother had my mom paying 9 bucks a month for it I flipped out lol.

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  • keymaster7keymaster7 Member Posts: 7
    LOL...so that means that game is easy...$9...sory bout thats a rip off...



    ok back to the topic...for me the only MMORPG game i've eva played is Guild Wars/Factions...so i was hoping that this game was free...but its not...luckly its has offline mode...
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