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Greed - it leaves a bad taste
noskul
Member Posts: 2
So let me analyze this. If I want to come back to EQ2 for EoF, I have to 1) pay $15 to activate my account and 2) pay $40 for just one expansion.
If I want to come back and start a new account, I can get it all for $40 plus get my first month for free. But wait, you have to buy KoS seprerately...
How about you reward people who have paid for all your previous (subpar) expansions, and give them a break on EoF? It shouldn't cost more to play my old account than to start a new one.
This kind of thing is why SOE is so hated. For all their faults, the other big ones (EVE, WoW, L2, etc) don't constantly have their hand out. There is just something very distasteful about the greed at SOE, and it seems they are the worst about this kind of thing.
Man, I wish Vanguard was ready. I'm bored but it's so hard to shell out $40 under these terms.
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I know exactly how you feel. The expansion was like 44 bucks w/ tax (a download at that), plus 18+ bucks to reactivate my account. Thats over 60 dollars to play a game I've owned for years. Grrr....
EDIT: and let me just add that it costs 15-20 dollars a month to play (depending if you want the so-called "extras"), with hundreds of thousands of subscribers paying every month, that is a shit load of cash. What is that money going to? A big fat Sony bank account thats what. These expansions should be FREE to subscribers. We have more than paid for it.
When is this MMORPG "dark age" going to end? Crappy games, greedy companies and delusional fanbois are the order of the day. Sad but true.
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
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play WOW, you pay per month and when the very first expansion comes out, i bet you pay for it, sarcasm intended. and if you think that SOE is the only company out there that does this kind of thing, then you havent checked around much. i bought FFXI way back when, then bought the first expansion pack when it came out. then the second, then finally the last one. Now they have a package where you can get all of them together for the same price i paid for each individually. Anarchy did the same thing, as did DOAC. in fact the only company that i know that hasnt done it, is EVE. play Sims. the original, then go buy each expansion separately, then come talk about how selfish SOE is compared to every other company out there. Oo and btw, EVE also charges more per month then any other MMO out. so they still get their money out of you.
im all for rewarding those that already had the game and expansions, but like every other game company out there, SOE is here to make money, not give it away.
correction: and with the new retail pack of EOF, you get all of the previous expansions and the original game included, you dont have to buy anything separate at all. and you get a free month, theres your $15 activation fee.
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The never ending expansions was what made me quit EverQuest -- having to fork out for my three accounts every few months was just beyond a joke.
I've just ordered EQ2 for a third time (original release, and then DoF) because, as stated above, it's cheaper to buy a whole new copy than it is to reactivate and buy just the expansion. Here's hoping, that my 4800+ dual core, 2gig of ram and 200 quid nVidia can actually run this two year old game at a reasonable frame rate.
The never ending expansions was what made me quit EverQuest -- having to fork out for my three accounts every few months was just beyond a joke.
I've just ordered EQ2 for a third time (original release, and then DoF) because, as stated above, it's cheaper to buy a whole new copy than it is to reactivate and buy just the expansion. Here's hoping, that my 4800+ dual core, 2gig of ram and 200 quid nVidia can actually run this two year old game at a reasonable frame rate.
For WOW that was was not the expansions. Rather they added the missing features. No new content was added.
(Cept for raid dungeons, but common- i could slap you a raid dungeon on wow editor in 30 minutes)
Not trying to defend SOE , but WOW 2 years without expansion + being the game where you reach max level in about 1.5 month of play ... Just plain sick
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First of all unless I'm misunderstanding you, you get KoS with EoF. Regardless if your a returning player who buys EoF or a new player, you still will get KoS.
EoF has the higher price because it is easily the largest expansion so far, and it includes all the previous expansions. Now some people cry foul that it includes the previous expansions because they had to pay full price for it. And that's the trick. You can wait until the price goes down and then buy it, or you can buy the expansions as soon as they come out and access the new content instantly. It's completely up to you if you want to buy it now or not. The upside is you get access to new content right away, the downside is that you will be paying full price when others may get it for much cheaper or even free later on.
Actually, EQ 2 has only been out two years, the wait is not that long, about every 6-7 months they issue a new expansion. It's a license to print money, they can't wait to do another expansion. And they seem to like this bundle marketing tool...
Actually, EQ 2 has only been out two years, the wait is not that long, about every 6-7 months they issue a new expansion. It's a license to print money, they can't wait to do another expansion. And they seem to like this bundle marketing tool...
Thats my point, this is the first bundle, theres no guarantee that the next expansion will have all the others in it included.
Yeah but DoF hasnt been bundled with anything since it was released, that didnt even come with original EQ2.
This would be the first full bundle of everything.
SOE is not the only company to market their games this way. FFXI did it with all of their expansions, DOAC did it, as did AO, and EQ1. they all did the buy the bundle save a bundle deal with their expansion packs. i believe that someone is making way too much of a deal out of this. All gaming companys are out to make money off of us.
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The never ending expansions was what made me quit EverQuest -- having to fork out for my three accounts every few months was just beyond a joke.
I've just ordered EQ2 for a third time (original release, and then DoF) because, as stated above, it's cheaper to buy a whole new copy than it is to reactivate and buy just the expansion. Here's hoping, that my 4800+ dual core, 2gig of ram and 200 quid nVidia can actually run this two year old game at a reasonable frame rate.
Totally wrong.EQ2 has added much more free content then WoW has ever.This is not counting the adventure packs.
I have active accounts in both and have played on and off both for nearly 2 years now.So i know what i am taliking about and have seen the added content over the life of this 2 games and EQ2 has added much more free content(i say free again not counting expansions/packs.Heck i just count the original world just to prove the point) then WoW has.
Actually, EQ 2 has only been out two years, the wait is not that long, about every 6-7 months they issue a new expansion. It's a license to print money, they can't wait to do another expansion. And they seem to like this bundle marketing tool...
last expansion was nov .2005 - KoS.Its been one year since the last expansion.Before that yes it was 6 months but its a year now from last.
C'mon people. So, Sony shouldn't abide what every other business abides by- profit? When are we gonna realize, most of the time, you get what you pay for. All of the expansions have been good. Sure WOW (Blizzard)isn't "as greedy" but that is because they do not have to be right now. They have a huge number of suscribers that they did not expect. That may be why they took so long to come out with an expansion? Fault a game for poor mechanics or terrible features. Sony is only doing what people want...Come out with a lot more content than WOW but at the same time make you pay for it. I'll pay a little extra for more content. I think they know this and wouldn't have sold a thrid expansion if it wasn't working. At least be realistic about what the company is really there for, money. We are there for entertainment. This dynamic will more than likely not change.
Alot of people are saying they're leaving WoW. WoW has destroyed the game industry.
I disagree. $OE turns out expansions faster than any company I can think of. Lineage 2=free content Eve=free content. Need I go on?
With EQ2, there are already what like 4 or 5 "adventure packs"? They are a joke. I'm calling $OE out, and I think the point remains valid. Even if $40 is not considered to be alot, which I agree it's not, the principle is what I am getting at. It's just not fun to play a game where the company is constantly in your pocket. We know when we sign on that it's going to be a monthly fee, but $OE is adding "pay for" content at least every 4-5 months on average.
I subbed CoV while I wait for Vanguard. Guess what, cost me $20 and I got a month free.
As a final note, what Sony is doing is NOT WORKING. EQ2 is a very solid and good game, and it's really struggling to keep its subs up (reference recent server merges). Maybe Sony will read this and figure out that the community has had it with their greed.
Tell me this......What is $OE's reputation amoung gamers? I would say that they stand out for their greed. If you want evidence, go to the Vanguard forums and read the "We're angry about SOE thread". Like 100+ posts.
EQ2, good game. Crappy company. SOE is never going to figure it out.
Eh, if the money for an expansion is that much of a big deal for you, play on the station exchange servers. That way you can just sell some plat, and get the money back. 2 days of plat farming puts that money back in your pocket.
Noskul... wth??? SOE releases more expansions than any other company out there. And it's not just adventure packs. What do you call all the actual full expansions like DoF, KoS, and EoF? Hell, they even upgrade the guests, add and delete quests, etc (meaning free content), every month or so. What in hell do you think those 2 to 4 hour downloads are every month or so? Your imagination? They don't just fix glitches. EQ2 has very few glitches.
I don't think you've played the game. If you have, you haven't been paying attention.
As for Eve and Lineage 2, they have about the same amount of subscribers as EQ2. There isn't a single game that even remotely compares to WoW numbers and games shouldnt even try.
I'd say that it's people like you that are being greedy. You just don't want to pay for your entertainment. Whats worse is when you don't know what you're talking about and try to make false claims as though they're fact.