Originally posted by we3ster Originally posted by CaptainRPG Originally posted by itzit How do you beat any MMO?
Don't mind We3, he isn't getting his information from legitimate sources. WoW is very equipment based. You cannot go through the game solo using the same equipment. The author of that source of information didn't even include his gear or class, which makes We3 look pretty foolish. I'm not at all mad or irritated, but just goes to show how far fanboy will go to prove their point, which is the point of stupidity. Look information yourself and you'll that is a missing from that post.
I've seen post like this in WoW, but they've included their gear, class and tactics. The amount of days it took to finish WoW was over a month. This post that We3 pulled out of his butt doesn't include this, which means We3 has just embarassed him.
Read the thread, the druid class is mentioned as is the mage class, 2 days to get to lvl 60 lol lol lol
I suggest you post on that thread yourself and tell them how crazy they are for suggesting it then if you don't agree, as it seems the majority of them do. It seems they know a lot more about WoW than you do lol lol
GO on post on it let's all have a laugh lol lol lol. I will relink it on here after you have, if you are not a member, make sure you use the same name you do on here so we can see, go on do it, tell them how ridiculous they are! lol lol lol
I read the entire topic. Other people have done the same thing and at the most, you can only get 1 through 50 in 4 days. Again, your source of information is questionable if not false. You should have read through the whole damn thread and again, the guy doesn't mention getting new equipment. The only way you can blast through WoW in a manner of days if you played the game before, even the OP of that topic admitted. Others mention, they had to use other toons to help them out.
So again, your source information isn't legitmate, you're making yourself looking stupid laughing at non-legitmate source of information.
Originally posted by CaptainRPG Originally posted by itzit How do you beat any MMO?
Don't mind We3, he isn't getting his information from legitimate sources. WoW is very equipment based. You cannot go through the game solo using the same equipment. The author of that source of information didn't even include his gear or class, which makes We3 look pretty foolish. I'm not at all mad or irritated, but just goes to show how far fanboy will go to prove their point, which is the point of stupidity. Look information yourself and you'll that is a missing from that post.
I've seen post like this in WoW, but they've included their gear, class and tactics. The amount of days it took to finish WoW was over a month. This post that We3 pulled out of his butt doesn't include this, which means We3 has just embarassed him. But once again I ask? You can't finish an MMO. There are always things to do. Single player games have a finish MMO's do not.
Originally posted by itzit How do you beat any MMO?
Don't mind We3, he isn't getting his information from legitimate sources. WoW is very equipment based. You cannot go through the game solo using the same equipment. The author of that source of information didn't even include his gear or class, which makes We3 look pretty foolish. I'm not at all mad or irritated, but just goes to show how far fanboy will go to prove their point, which is the point of stupidity. Look information yourself and you'll that is a missing from that post.
I've seen post like this in WoW, but they've included their gear, class and tactics. The amount of days it took to finish WoW was over a month. This post that We3 pulled out of his butt doesn't include this, which means We3 has just embarassed him.
Read the thread, the druid class is mentioned as is the mage class, 2 days to get to lvl 60 lol lol lol
I suggest you post on that thread yourself and tell them how crazy they are for suggesting it then if you don't agree, as it seems the majority of them do. It seems they know a lot more about WoW than you do lol lol
GO on post on it let's all have a laugh lol lol lol. I will relink it on here after you have, if you are not a member, make sure you use the same name you do on here so we can see, go on do it, tell them how ridiculous they are! lol lol lol
I read the entire topic. Other people have done the same thing and at the most, you can only get 1 through 50 in 4 days. Again, your source of information is questionable if not false. You should have read through the whole damn thread and again, the guy doesn't mention getting new equipment. The only way you can blast through WoW in a manner of days if you played the game before, even the OP of that topic admitted. Others mention, they had to use other toons to help them out.
So again, your source information isn't legitmate, you're making yourself looking stupid laughing at non-legitmate source of information.
It is as legitimate as the information you give about DDO.
As I said, if you don't agree with them, tell them, go on, you certainly have an opinion on most things, if they are wrong, tell them, I'm waiting................
You yourself also said it could be done in 2 days without sleep etc.............
Have you told them how ridiculous they are yet, hurry up.
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
Originally posted by itzit Originally posted by CaptainRPG Originally posted by itzit How do you beat any MMO?
Don't mind We3, he isn't getting his information from legitimate sources. WoW is very equipment based. You cannot go through the game solo using the same equipment. The author of that source of information didn't even include his gear or class, which makes We3 look pretty foolish. I'm not at all mad or irritated, but just goes to show how far fanboy will go to prove their point, which is the point of stupidity. Look information yourself and you'll that is a missing from that post.
I've seen post like this in WoW, but they've included their gear, class and tactics. The amount of days it took to finish WoW was over a month. This post that We3 pulled out of his butt doesn't include this, which means We3 has just embarassed him. But once again I ask? You can't finish an MMO. There are always things to do. Single player games have a finish MMO's do not. Exactly, my point after you reach level 60 they are more quests to do.
It is as legitimate as the information you give about DDO.
What the hell? The information repeated here is from actual gameplay and other people have said the same thing. Nobody has agreed with that post seeing as everyone has done it only in 2 days. DDO can beaten without sleep, but I doubt it would take 2 days to do it. One full day to go through the content.
With 149 quests in DDO (not enoght) and about 100 cant be done solo. how you plan on skimming through DDOs whole content in one day? If quests havent been done before (without guide) they take hours to complete, even the road to certain quests can swallow a whole day to find...
Level 4 in two hours?! wow thats some nasty XP farming!
lets see what you have to do to level to 4 (all quests done on normal difficulty in rushmode) Level 1: (ill be nice and start after quests you have to do, to enter stormreach) Lord Goodblades quests - 3 short quests with good xp Guard Heorogar - Low road. short quest great xp After these 4 quest you will still be missing 200-300 xp, but lets say DING LEVEL 2! gratz
TIME: about 20 mins
Level 2: This is the fastest way i know to level to 3, so here goes... Durks secret - 10mins Butchers Path - 15mins Lighthouse - 10mins Cartamons quest serie - 20mins Osgoods basement - 10mins Waterworks - 1 hour (4 parts with about 15mins each) DING! you reached LEVEL 3! grats! total time: just about 2 hours
TIME: 2 hours and 20 - 25 mins
Now this is where it gets intersting. you have uptained level 3 = 30.000 xp in 2 hours and 20mins. you now need to get hold of 20.000 more xp in minus 20 mins. here is some quests you could do to level to 4.... Seal of Shan-To-Kor - 1 hour Redfang the unruled - 15mins Dephes quest serie - 1 hour the sacred helm - 20mins the Swiped Signet - 15mins
I dont think i need to state the obvious here...stop trolling!
It is as legitimate as the information you give about DDO.
What the hell? The information repeated here is from actual gameplay and other people have said the same thing. Nobody has agreed with that post seeing as everyone has done it only in 2 days. DDO can beaten without sleep, but I doubt it would take 2 days to do it. One full day to go through the content.
As I said, I don't play WoW anymore, too Fisher Price for my tastes. Half the people agreed on there it could be done in 2 days, some said 3 or 4, now, if you have a problem with their information, sign up to that forum and tell them, you are eager and keen to pick all the faults in DDO, a game you don't play, so go and tell those you disagree with about WoW how wrong they are, go on Mr WoW expert, it's your game, enlighten them with your knowledge!
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
Originally posted by we3ster Originally posted by CaptainRPG Originally posted by we3ster It is as legitimate as the information you give about DDO.
What the hell? The information repeated here is from actual gameplay and other people have said the same thing. Nobody has agreed with that post seeing as everyone has done it only in 2 days. DDO can beaten without sleep, but I doubt it would take 2 days to do it. One full day to go through the content. As I said, I don't play WoW anymore, too Fisher Price for my tastes. Half the people agreed on there it could be done in 2 days, some said 3 or 4, now, if you have a problem with their information, sign up to that forum and tell them, you are eager and keen to pick all the faults in DDO, a game you don't play, so go and tell those you disagree with about WoW how wrong they are, go on Mr WoW expert, it's your game, enlighten them with your knowledge! Actually, no. Most of the people on the topic disagree that this game can be finished in 2 days. 2 days sound like a good theory, but it can't be done and the poster was obviously lying since he does not have his gear noted. Most of them agreed that 4 days is the max and that if you do sleepless nights. That doesn't mean the game is easy, but rather it speak volumes about the player mentality because he spent 4 sleep nightss doing this. Same thing with PvP when a guy took the whole month off to reach the highest rank in PvP. It takes half a year for players to get the highest rank and that's if they play everyday. You're trying to say WoW is easy, but you fail because these players had to go to the extremes and play the day for 4 days straight to do it.
And again, you can't beat WoW, it's end game content takes months to beat. Once again, we3, stop pulling stuff out of ass to make your argument look good. Anybody whose play WoW and went to end game knows that it takes 3 months to 6 months to complete the whole game, if newer content hasn't already come out by the time. Not to mention, WoW days upon days of extra stuff and side quest.
However, DDO doesn't take that long to go it's content. One whole week to go through the beginning to end like I did. The games in areas were other RPGs succeed. As for that board, I don't say anything to them, they already people in their mind who are already disagree with that poster who pulling stuff out of his ass about his post on WoW. Again, it's a nice theory, but it can't be done.
Again, stop making references about age because I've seen grown men on different DDO servers act like children because no one was roleplaying or those people they were partying with weren't serious about the quests. None of the other people were kids either. What makes a game go to pieces is there maybe a lack of authority (In the case of WoW) or there is a lack of fun factor. (In both the case of DDO and EQ2) Again, I've partied with 14 and a 16 years old. If this game was too complex for kids to play then explain why a 14 to 16 year have level 6 to 8 characters on this game. If this game was too complex are were these two able to manage a guild. Again, we3 stop speaking your ass.
Kids play DDO just as they would any other mmorpg out there, but the sad part is, is the number of players who are not playing DDO. That's part that shoudl be the main focus on argument. (But isn't which is no surprise)
DDO has under 90k people and majority of the people playing are European. My guess is that the number of Americans playing is around 30-40k while European probably make up 45k to 50k. A population of 30k isn't even half the population in one state. Jesus man, don't you know your math? I mean it takes 50k to run an mmorpg, but any mmorpg with numbers under 100k is a pathetic game.
If it's been answered, I don't see it, so I'll ask again:
CaptainRPG, what other games on that list to the left are so good-looking as to make DDO look "horrible"? I just got done reading another DDO thread where Theo said, "I really like the graphics a lot. The characters are stunning in their details," so I'd like to know what MMOs look so great as to make DDO look as terrible as you say. And since I doubt you would answer that with "World of Warcraft," I'd like to know what you think of WoW's graphics compared to DDO's.
Originally posted by TheFranchise If it's been answered, I don't see it, so I'll ask again:CaptainRPG, what other games on that list to the left are so good-looking as to make DDO look "horrible"? I just got done reading another DDO thread where Theo said, "I really like the graphics a lot. The characters are stunning in their details," so I'd like to know what MMOs look so great as to make DDO look as terrible as you say. And since I doubt you would answer that with "World of Warcraft," I'd like to know what you think of WoW's graphics compared to DDO's.
Graphics: GW and WoW hands down. You may not like the cartoon graphics in WoW, but at least I don't have to cringe at characters as I to do with DDO. The dwarves in DDO look nothing like their book version, rather they look more like hunchbacks. The elves in DDO look like their bulimic and they are horribly designed, especially the male elves. The male elves may not look as good in WoW, but the female are goddess. Skipping onto humans, GW beats WoW hands down in terms of human detail and have the best set of humans out of all of them. DDO is crap for both male and female.
The armor designs in GW and WoW are both good. WoW gives you the norse and medieval style looks while GW gives you the greek/roman and conan the barbarian style outfits. We even get viewable capes. What does DDO offer in terms of armor designs, the same crap they had back in NWN (Which is not a good thing) and NO viewable capes.
The animation in DDO is HORRIBLE. GW uses different animations for it's attacks and WoW at least gives my elf the ability to hold his weapon like samurai and flip around. The swings in DDO are so unrealistic it isn't even funny.
UI: The UI in WoW is better. The UI in GW isn't too good, but you custom size of icons. DDO only allows you to move the icons around or shut them off.
Emos: GW beats WoW in Emos. As for DDO, have you seen anyone dance in DDO? If you have, I'm pretty sure you almost put a pencil through your eye because the dancing sucks. And that's just a few to note.
Sound/Music: GW gets voices and voice acting while WoW at least has voices for it's characters. The only voice you guys get is narrators. The music in WoW is memorable, GW music sucks and DDO doesn't really exist. (Okay, it does, but they like GW have nothing for them in this department)
A.I: The A.I in WoW is govern by aggro making it so that everyone has part to play in keeping it down. GW's A.I is little a smart and they'll start attack your spellcasters if they notice them being overally helpful. DDO A.I is just bad because the monsters will attack you, run off, comeback or dogpile one person and not think twice about attacking anyone else.
Extra: DDO has nothing else except dungeon crawling and meeting up at inns. There is no world in DDO and no place to explore. And all DnD games have been known for their explorable areas OUTSIDE OF DUNGEONS. DDO has none and is nothing more than Dungeons crawler. GW and WoW have plenty of side quest to do, WoW especially with all the crafting, collecting and the ability to ride on horseback.
End-game: It's takes months to get horse and end-game equipment just so you can explore more dungeons after reaching level 60. DDO lacks a real end game. Class equipment and horses.
Loading Times: WoW has the least amount of loading times. You only load when going to PvP areas or inside dungeons. DDO and GW both load a hellva a lot, which kills the fun factor of any game.
Community: WoW has groups for everyone. I've been in several mature guilds (I mostly play RP servers) and they had members as young as 14 who knew how to roleplay as good as adults. Yes, WoW does have immature community, but you have the ability to turn off your general chat. Plus, most of the immaturity goes on at the Allliance side and it's mostly in the beginning areas. GW is just as immature as WoWs. DDO community is on the decline. Most of the people playing these games are Europeans (who also make more of the players in WoW than Americans), adults with money to throw away and fans of the series. Now with DDO under 90k, that means theirs only 30,000 to 40,000 Americans playing this game and probably 50,000 to 45,000 people in European playing this game. Plus, the DDO rarely moves and the only time DDO is very active in-game is during the afternoon hours when kids get home and parents come home from work. Adult may not play WoW and GW as much as kids do, but adult REALLY don't play DDO as much either.
PvE/PvP: WoW has an open world to explore and dungeons that are massive and life like. WoW doesn't force you to just go a PvE route or a PvP route. WoW PvP is somewhat balanced, but they've finally come close to balance all the classes except the Rogue and the Warrior. Now GW on the other hand is confined to instances, but at least it has an explorable world. However, the PvE is forced and PvP is still lacking, yet fun. The PvP is balance ever. DDO's PvP is unbalanced as Wizard/Sorcerers, Clerics and Paladins are at the top again just as they were in NWN. DDO PvE is repetitive, in which you see the same module of dungeon used, you'll run into the same type of monsters and you stucking doing the sewers for the first part of the game.
Compare to other games, DDO has nothing to offer nor anything new to offer. It's just fanboy trying to give non-existencing qualities to DDO because they envious of how well the other games are doing and they are tired of fanboys from other boards bragging about how well their game is doing to them on this board.
"The swings in DDO are so unrealistic it isn't even funny."
Heh, my dwarf paladin in WoW swings like a girl, with cute little girly sound effects, whereas my little halfling paladin in DDO swings an axe like he's got a pair. Just standing still with a shield and holy mace, my DDO dwarf cleric to me looks like he'll kick your ass if you look at him funny. I only get that same impression in WoW when my druid is in bear form. Other than that, while DDO player characters may have a sameness look to them, the environment detail is impressive.
Flipping around? Put some points into tumble and you can do backflips and forward flips in the middle of combat. And those flips are actually useful and not just for show because DDO has a realistic melee threat range. Do other games have an animation for when a character stands in front of another and blocks a barrage of arrows from hitting his teammate? What other games let you manually dodge a fireball?
You think DDO female elves look bulimic, while I think WoW female elves look like they need to hit the stairmaster.
A.I... more often than not when fighting intelligent monsters, they go straight for the spellcasters just like the party does. You mention fighting kobolds all the time, and kobolds are one of the best examples of this behavior.
I see the monsters attacking the person with the most aggro all the time, which is why wizards die real quick if they toss area-of-effect spells around haphazardly. A wizard tossing multiple fireballs at a creature will more often than not then get more attention than he wants. The main times I see monsters piling on one guy is when the guy is taunting effectively, or he is doing plenty of damage. Two-handed fighters can do decent area-of-effect melee damage which helps keep monsters' attention.
I don't know how this is even a point of debate. Nearly EVERY decent fight I've been in in DDO consists of a quick party chat beforehand as to who is going to do what due to the monsters having at least half a brain. The main ones that don't and just run around like you say are zombies. Kobolds run around too, but it's more like they're spring attacking than being mindless.
The dancing in DDO is pretty good. Not necessarily the character dancing, but the monster dancing. I now point anyone to youtube who hasn't seen the DDO Dance to the Music video. The earth elementals and beholders are good stuff.
Endgame is a separate issue. A game might have a great endgame but have a lousy journey getting to it, or vice-versa. If someone plays a game for a month or three and then has nothing else to do, it doesn't mean they didn't have fun for a month or three and that the game wasn't good for a month or three. Meanwhile, WoW 1-60 is rather different from 60+, and not everyone enjoys both.
PVE: I'd enjoy GW's world more if I didn't constantly run into invisible walls and could jump. DDO lets you jump from ledge to ledge and pull yourself up by your fingertips if you barely make the jump, or Feather Fall from great heights. Too bad City of Heroes seems to be one of the few (only?) games that gets flying right. WoW has lifelike dungeons? If there's one thing DDO is good at, (and the main thing people harp on about it), is it knows how to do dungeons. When I'm in a DDO dungeon, it feels like a dungeon.
For PVP, of course clerics lead the way because clerics are arguably the most powerful class, despite certain DDO nerfs to them -- although the Monty Haul factor clearly helps fighters. D&D isn't supposed to be a balanced PVP game. Many people say balancing for PVP is what screws up otherwise good games.
You often say you've beaten DDO doing your trial playing, but then you often only talk about kobolds and the early dungeons. Is the VoN series filled with kobolds and early-level dungeons? How about Twilight Forge? Or the Cult of Six series? Or Delera's Tomb? I don't think there's any kobolds in the Threnals. Or in Stormcleave. Or in Redwillow. Or in Gwylan's Stand. A lot of your DDO writings are as if you've never played past level five, and that you've only run with powerleveling zergers to get there.
Originally posted by TheFranchise "The swings in DDO are so unrealistic it isn't even funny."Heh, my dwarf paladin in WoW swings like a girl, with cute little girly sound effects, whereas my little halfling paladin in DDO swings an axe like he's got a pair. Just standing still with a shield and holy mace, my DDO dwarf cleric to me looks like he'll kick your ass if you look at him funny. I only get that same impression in WoW when my druid is in bear form. Other than that, while DDO player characters may have a sameness look to them, the environment detail is impressive.Flipping around? Put some points into tumble and you can do backflips and forward flips in the middle of combat. And those flips are actually useful and not just for show because DDO has a realistic melee threat range. Do other games have an animation for when a character stands in front of another and blocks a barrage of arrows from hitting his teammate? What other games let you manually dodge a fireball? You think DDO female elves look bulimic, while I think WoW female elves look like they need to hit the stairmaster. A.I... more often than not when fighting intelligent monsters, they go straight for the spellcasters just like the party does. You mention fighting kobolds all the time, and kobolds are one of the best examples of this behavior. I see the monsters attacking the person with the most aggro all the time, which is why wizards die real quick if they toss area-of-effect spells around haphazardly. A wizard tossing multiple fireballs at a creature will more often than not then get more attention than he wants. The main times I see monsters piling on one guy is when the guy is taunting effectively, or he is doing plenty of damage. Two-handed fighters can do decent area-of-effect melee damage which helps keep monsters' attention.I don't know how this is even a point of debate. Nearly EVERY decent fight I've been in in DDO consists of a quick party chat beforehand as to who is going to do what due to the monsters having at least half a brain. The main ones that don't and just run around like you say are zombies. Kobolds run around too, but it's more like they're spring attacking than being mindless. The dancing in DDO is pretty good. Not necessarily the character dancing, but the monster dancing. I now point anyone to youtube who hasn't seen the DDO Dance to the Music video. The earth elementals and beholders are good stuff.Endgame is a separate issue. A game might have a great endgame but have a lousy journey getting to it, or vice-versa. If someone plays a game for a month or three and then has nothing else to do, it doesn't mean they didn't have fun for a month or three and that the game wasn't good for a month or three. Meanwhile, WoW 1-60 is rather different from 60+, and not everyone enjoys both.PVE: I'd enjoy GW's world more if I didn't constantly run into invisible walls and could jump. DDO lets you jump from ledge to ledge and pull yourself up by your fingertips if you barely make the jump, or Feather Fall from great heights. Too bad City of Heroes seems to be one of the few (only?) games that gets flying right. WoW has lifelike dungeons? If there's one thing DDO is good at, (and the main thing people harp on about it), is it knows how to do dungeons. When I'm in a DDO dungeon, it feels like a dungeon. For PVP, of course clerics lead the way because clerics are arguably the most powerful class, despite certain DDO nerfs to them -- although the Monty Haul factor clearly helps fighters. D&D isn't supposed to be a balanced PVP game. Many people say balancing for PVP is what screws up otherwise good games.You often say you've beaten DDO doing your trial playing, but then you often only talk about kobolds and the early dungeons. Is the VoN series filled with kobolds and early-level dungeons? How about Twilight Forge? Or the Cult of Six series? Or Delera's Tomb? I don't think there's any kobolds in the Threnals. Or in Stormcleave. Or in Redwillow. Or in Gwylan's Stand. A lot of your DDO writings are as if you've never played past level five, and that you've only run with powerleveling zergers to get there.
I was just about to reply to your post, point to point, when I remember WoW 7 million players and DDO has only 60k. If WoW was so poor as you say 7 million players, both adults and kids, wouldn't be playing it and why isn't the game's price dropping. If DDO is so great why is the population declining and the price of the game dropping?
Oh and forgot to mention, how I love how you ignore the comparsion with GW. It's beautiful to watch your ignorance at work.
Originally posted by TheFranchise "The swings in DDO are so unrealistic it isn't even funny." Heh, my dwarf paladin in WoW swings like a girl, with cute little girly sound effects, whereas my little halfling paladin in DDO swings an axe like he's got a pair. Just standing still with a shield and holy mace, my DDO dwarf cleric to me looks like he'll kick your ass if you look at him funny. I only get that same impression in WoW when my druid is in bear form. Other than that, while DDO player characters may have a sameness look to them, the environment detail is impressive. Flipping around? Put some points into tumble and you can do backflips and forward flips in the middle of combat. And those flips are actually useful and not just for show because DDO has a realistic melee threat range. Do other games have an animation for when a character stands in front of another and blocks a barrage of arrows from hitting his teammate? What other games let you manually dodge a fireball? You think DDO female elves look bulimic, while I think WoW female elves look like they need to hit the stairmaster. A.I... more often than not when fighting intelligent monsters, they go straight for the spellcasters just like the party does. You mention fighting kobolds all the time, and kobolds are one of the best examples of this behavior. I see the monsters attacking the person with the most aggro all the time, which is why wizards die real quick if they toss area-of-effect spells around haphazardly. A wizard tossing multiple fireballs at a creature will more often than not then get more attention than he wants. The main times I see monsters piling on one guy is when the guy is taunting effectively, or he is doing plenty of damage. Two-handed fighters can do decent area-of-effect melee damage which helps keep monsters' attention. I don't know how this is even a point of debate. Nearly EVERY decent fight I've been in in DDO consists of a quick party chat beforehand as to who is going to do what due to the monsters having at least half a brain. The main ones that don't and just run around like you say are zombies. Kobolds run around too, but it's more like they're spring attacking than being mindless. The dancing in DDO is pretty good. Not necessarily the character dancing, but the monster dancing. I now point anyone to youtube who hasn't seen the DDO Dance to the Music video. The earth elementals and beholders are good stuff. Endgame is a separate issue. A game might have a great endgame but have a lousy journey getting to it, or vice-versa. If someone plays a game for a month or three and then has nothing else to do, it doesn't mean they didn't have fun for a month or three and that the game wasn't good for a month or three. Meanwhile, WoW 1-60 is rather different from 60+, and not everyone enjoys both. PVE: I'd enjoy GW's world more if I didn't constantly run into invisible walls and could jump. DDO lets you jump from ledge to ledge and pull yourself up by your fingertips if you barely make the jump, or Feather Fall from great heights. Too bad City of Heroes seems to be one of the few (only?) games that gets flying right. WoW has lifelike dungeons? If there's one thing DDO is good at, (and the main thing people harp on about it), is it knows how to do dungeons. When I'm in a DDO dungeon, it feels like a dungeon. For PVP, of course clerics lead the way because clerics are arguably the most powerful class, despite certain DDO nerfs to them -- although the Monty Haul factor clearly helps fighters. D&D isn't supposed to be a balanced PVP game. Many people say balancing for PVP is what screws up otherwise good games. You often say you've beaten DDO doing your trial playing, but then you often only talk about kobolds and the early dungeons. Is the VoN series filled with kobolds and early-level dungeons? How about Twilight Forge? Or the Cult of Six series? Or Delera's Tomb? I don't think there's any kobolds in the Threnals. Or in Stormcleave. Or in Redwillow. Or in Gwylan's Stand. A lot of your DDO writings are as if you've never played past level five, and that you've only run with powerleveling zergers to get there.
I was just about to reply to your post, point to point, when I remember WoW 7 million players and DDO has only 60k. If WoW was so poor as you say 7 million players, both adults and kids, wouldn't be playing it and why isn't the game's price dropping. If DDO is so great why is the population declining and the price of the game dropping?
Oh and forgot to mention, how I love how you ignore the comparsion with GW. It's beautiful to watch your ignorance at work.
And it's embarrasing watching your ignorance at work.
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
And it's embarrasing watching your ignorance at work.
Care to explain? I mean it's not as if you have reason anyway, but I would love to your points.
As i have asked you before, what strategies did you use to beat the Titan, since you 'completed' DDO some 2 months ago, you would have been the first!
You claimed that kobolds are all you faced until level 5.
You know nothing about DDO or WoW for that matter, I showed you some people's comments on the forum regarding the fact that you could level a character to 60 in WoW in two days, you said yes, if you did not sleep etc, then you said it couldn't be done, and that they were wrong, I told you to tell them in that case, (as people here in the DDO forum would not care) you have not done that, are you frightened they would rip you to shreds, you coward!
The new Honour system has launched in WoW with the latest patch, shouldn't you be there instead of here, or are you sick of getting your ass handed to you by 11 and 12 year olds????
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
Originally posted by we3ster Originally posted by CaptainRPG Originally posted by we3ster
And it's embarrasing watching your ignorance at work. Care to explain? I mean it's not as if you have reason anyway, but I would love to your points.
As i have asked you before, what strategies did you use to beat the Titan, since you 'completed' DDO some 2 months ago, you would have been the first!
You claimed that kobolds are all you faced until level 5.
You know nothing about DDO or WoW for that matter, I showed you some people's comments on the forum regarding the fact that you could level a character to 60 in WoW in two days, you said yes, if you did not sleep etc, then you said it couldn't be done, and that they were wrong, I told you to tell them in that case, (as people here in the DDO forum would not care) you have not done that, are you frightened they would rip you to shreds, you coward!
The new Honour system has launched in WoW with the latest patch, shouldn't you be there instead of here, or are you sick of getting your ass handed to you by 11 and 12 year olds????
I didn't PvP, I played RP server. What part do you seem to have comprehending I don't even play WoW anymore nor am I a WoW fanboy. However, I do respect WoW ability to draw in players of all ages, which has DDO cannot do or compare on any level.
Also stop using me as a means to an end. Assuming I didn't even pass the training area of DDO online...you are still left with the question as why is DDO prices declining, why is DDO population declining and why are the DDO messageboards on the official forums and other websites on the decline. As I told Bes, believe whatever you want, it's not going to fix DDO current condition. Even I was here, other people would be coming to this board telling us how much this game sucks. Many people still come to this board to tell you how much this game sucks.
And it's embarrasing watching your ignorance at work.
Care to explain? I mean it's not as if you have reason anyway, but I would love to your points.
As i have asked you before, what strategies did you use to beat the Titan, since you 'completed' DDO some 2 months ago, you would have been the first!
You claimed that kobolds are all you faced until level 5.
You know nothing about DDO or WoW for that matter, I showed you some people's comments on the forum regarding the fact that you could level a character to 60 in WoW in two days, you said yes, if you did not sleep etc, then you said it couldn't be done, and that they were wrong, I told you to tell them in that case, (as people here in the DDO forum would not care) you have not done that, are you frightened they would rip you to shreds, you coward!
The new Honour system has launched in WoW with the latest patch, shouldn't you be there instead of here, or are you sick of getting your ass handed to you by 11 and 12 year olds????
I didn't PvP, I played RP server. What part do you seem to have comprehending I don't even play WoW anymore nor am I a WoW fanboy. However, I do respect WoW ability to draw in players of all ages, which has DDO cannot do or compare on any level.
Also stop using me as a means to an end. Assuming I didn't even pass the training area of DDO online...you are still left with the question as why is DDO prices declining, why is DDO population declining and why are the DDO messageboards on the official forums and other websites on the decline. As I told Bes, believe whatever you want, it's not going to fix DDO current condition. Even I was here, other people would be coming to this board telling us how much this game sucks. Many people still come to this board to tell you how much this game sucks.
DDO's population IS increasing, I play, I see the extra people running around, see their descriptions when looking for a group and I talk to them.
You, know NOTHING on DDO's current state, absolutely NOTHING!
You still have not said how you beat the Titan, since you were the first!
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
Originally posted by we3ster Originally posted by CaptainRPG Originally posted by we3ster Originally posted by CaptainRPG Originally posted by we3ster
And it's embarrasing watching your ignorance at work. Care to explain? I mean it's not as if you have reason anyway, but I would love to your points.
As i have asked you before, what strategies did you use to beat the Titan, since you 'completed' DDO some 2 months ago, you would have been the first!
You claimed that kobolds are all you faced until level 5.
You know nothing about DDO or WoW for that matter, I showed you some people's comments on the forum regarding the fact that you could level a character to 60 in WoW in two days, you said yes, if you did not sleep etc, then you said it couldn't be done, and that they were wrong, I told you to tell them in that case, (as people here in the DDO forum would not care) you have not done that, are you frightened they would rip you to shreds, you coward!
The new Honour system has launched in WoW with the latest patch, shouldn't you be there instead of here, or are you sick of getting your ass handed to you by 11 and 12 year olds????
I didn't PvP, I played RP server. What part do you seem to have comprehending I don't even play WoW anymore nor am I a WoW fanboy. However, I do respect WoW ability to draw in players of all ages, which has DDO cannot do or compare on any level.
Also stop using me as a means to an end. Assuming I didn't even pass the training area of DDO online...you are still left with the question as why is DDO prices declining, why is DDO population declining and why are the DDO messageboards on the official forums and other websites on the decline. As I told Bes, believe whatever you want, it's not going to fix DDO current condition. Even I was here, other people would be coming to this board telling us how much this game sucks. Many people still come to this board to tell you how much this game sucks.
DDO's population IS increasing, I play, I see the extra people running around, see their descriptions when looking for a group and I talk to them.
You, know NOTHING on DDO's current state, absolutely NOTHING!
You still have not said how you beat the Titan, since you were the first!
If the population is increasing why is the prices still dropping? I don't know what planet you're from, but when prices is drop it because no is buying the product. Both prices and DDO population are related. Like I said, assuming I never played the game in my life, how does that help explain why the population and prices are on decline. I'm not the cause of why DDO is on the decline so again, please explain why DDO prices are still on the decline.
And it's embarrasing watching your ignorance at work.
Care to explain? I mean it's not as if you have reason anyway, but I would love to your points.
As i have asked you before, what strategies did you use to beat the Titan, since you 'completed' DDO some 2 months ago, you would have been the first!
You claimed that kobolds are all you faced until level 5.
You know nothing about DDO or WoW for that matter, I showed you some people's comments on the forum regarding the fact that you could level a character to 60 in WoW in two days, you said yes, if you did not sleep etc, then you said it couldn't be done, and that they were wrong, I told you to tell them in that case, (as people here in the DDO forum would not care) you have not done that, are you frightened they would rip you to shreds, you coward!
The new Honour system has launched in WoW with the latest patch, shouldn't you be there instead of here, or are you sick of getting your ass handed to you by 11 and 12 year olds????
I didn't PvP, I played RP server. What part do you seem to have comprehending I don't even play WoW anymore nor am I a WoW fanboy. However, I do respect WoW ability to draw in players of all ages, which has DDO cannot do or compare on any level.
Also stop using me as a means to an end. Assuming I didn't even pass the training area of DDO online...you are still left with the question as why is DDO prices declining, why is DDO population declining and why are the DDO messageboards on the official forums and other websites on the decline. As I told Bes, believe whatever you want, it's not going to fix DDO current condition. Even I was here, other people would be coming to this board telling us how much this game sucks. Many people still come to this board to tell you how much this game sucks.
DDO's population IS increasing, I play, I see the extra people running around, see their descriptions when looking for a group and I talk to them.
You, know NOTHING on DDO's current state, absolutely NOTHING!
You still have not said how you beat the Titan, since you were the first!
If the population is increasing why is the prices still dropping? I don't know what planet you're from, but when prices is drop it because no is buying the product. Both prices and DDO population are related. Like I said, assuming I never played the game in my life, how does that help explain why the population and prices are on decline. I'm not the cause of why DDO is on the decline so again, please explain why DDO prices are still on the decline.
So if a company drops it's price, you are expecting the number of people to stay the same or drop?
Originally posted by wjrasmussen Originally posted by CaptainRPG Originally posted by we3ster Originally posted by CaptainRPG Originally posted by we3ster Originally posted by CaptainRPG Originally posted by we3ster
And it's embarrasing watching your ignorance at work. Care to explain? I mean it's not as if you have reason anyway, but I would love to your points.
As i have asked you before, what strategies did you use to beat the Titan, since you 'completed' DDO some 2 months ago, you would have been the first!
You claimed that kobolds are all you faced until level 5.
You know nothing about DDO or WoW for that matter, I showed you some people's comments on the forum regarding the fact that you could level a character to 60 in WoW in two days, you said yes, if you did not sleep etc, then you said it couldn't be done, and that they were wrong, I told you to tell them in that case, (as people here in the DDO forum would not care) you have not done that, are you frightened they would rip you to shreds, you coward!
The new Honour system has launched in WoW with the latest patch, shouldn't you be there instead of here, or are you sick of getting your ass handed to you by 11 and 12 year olds????
I didn't PvP, I played RP server. What part do you seem to have comprehending I don't even play WoW anymore nor am I a WoW fanboy. However, I do respect WoW ability to draw in players of all ages, which has DDO cannot do or compare on any level.
Also stop using me as a means to an end. Assuming I didn't even pass the training area of DDO online...you are still left with the question as why is DDO prices declining, why is DDO population declining and why are the DDO messageboards on the official forums and other websites on the decline. As I told Bes, believe whatever you want, it's not going to fix DDO current condition. Even I was here, other people would be coming to this board telling us how much this game sucks. Many people still come to this board to tell you how much this game sucks.
DDO's population IS increasing, I play, I see the extra people running around, see their descriptions when looking for a group and I talk to them.
You, know NOTHING on DDO's current state, absolutely NOTHING!
You still have not said how you beat the Titan, since you were the first!
If the population is increasing why is the prices still dropping? I don't know what planet you're from, but when prices is drop it because no is buying the product. Both prices and DDO population are related. Like I said, assuming I never played the game in my life, how does that help explain why the population and prices are on decline. I'm not the cause of why DDO is on the decline so again, please explain why DDO prices are still on the decline. So if a company drops it's price, you are expecting the number of people to stay the same or drop? If the prices drops for a computer game that's a sign the product isn't doing well or they are getting ready to sell an expansion pack. Both NWN and GW have done this. I imagine WoW is going to do the same thing in a couple of months for Burning Crusade. DDO prices dropped during the summer. As matter fact of fact, It went from $50 to 20 dollars in over 6 months. That's poor sells for a product that hasn't even been out for a year.
Originally posted by CaptainRPG DDO prices dropped during the summer. As matter fact of fact, It went from $50 to 20 dollars in over 6 months. That's poor sells for a product that hasn't even been out for a year.
I bought DDO dvd version from amazon.com this week for 9 dollars. So, 30 days for 9 dollars sounds like a win/win for me. I liked the trial so I bought the game cheap and is a perfect bargin to tide me over on winter break from school. Depending how I like the game at end of 30 days I'll decide to keep it or unsub, but for 9 dollars I don't feel I lost much.
I think now is the perfect time to try DDO since the product is so cheap either online or from store shelves. I don't give a rats butt if the game is struggling or not. If I find the game fun then I don't mind paying for it, struggling in sales or not.
Originally posted by Sevenwind Originally posted by CaptainRPG DDO prices dropped during the summer. As matter fact of fact, It went from $50 to 20 dollars in over 6 months. That's poor sells for a product that hasn't even been out for a year.
I bought DDO dvd version from amazon.com this week for 9 dollars. So, 30 days for 9 dollars sounds like a win/win for me. I liked the trial so I bought the game cheap and is a perfect bargin to tide me over on winter break from school. Depending how I like the game at end of 30 days I'll decide to keep it or unsub, but for 9 dollars I don't feel I lost much.
I think now is the perfect time to try DDO since the product is so cheap either online or from store shelves. I don't give a rats butt if the game is struggling or not. If I find the game fun then I don't mind paying for it, struggling in sales or not.
ROFL! No insult to you, Sevenwind, but I rest my case We3.
And it's embarrasing watching your ignorance at work.
Care to explain? I mean it's not as if you have reason anyway, but I would love to your points.
As i have asked you before, what strategies did you use to beat the Titan, since you 'completed' DDO some 2 months ago, you would have been the first!
You claimed that kobolds are all you faced until level 5.
You know nothing about DDO or WoW for that matter, I showed you some people's comments on the forum regarding the fact that you could level a character to 60 in WoW in two days, you said yes, if you did not sleep etc, then you said it couldn't be done, and that they were wrong, I told you to tell them in that case, (as people here in the DDO forum would not care) you have not done that, are you frightened they would rip you to shreds, you coward!
The new Honour system has launched in WoW with the latest patch, shouldn't you be there instead of here, or are you sick of getting your ass handed to you by 11 and 12 year olds????
I didn't PvP, I played RP server. What part do you seem to have comprehending I don't even play WoW anymore nor am I a WoW fanboy. However, I do respect WoW ability to draw in players of all ages, which has DDO cannot do or compare on any level.
Also stop using me as a means to an end. Assuming I didn't even pass the training area of DDO online...you are still left with the question as why is DDO prices declining, why is DDO population declining and why are the DDO messageboards on the official forums and other websites on the decline. As I told Bes, believe whatever you want, it's not going to fix DDO current condition. Even I was here, other people would be coming to this board telling us how much this game sucks. Many people still come to this board to tell you how much this game sucks.
DDO's population IS increasing, I play, I see the extra people running around, see their descriptions when looking for a group and I talk to them.
You, know NOTHING on DDO's current state, absolutely NOTHING!
You still have not said how you beat the Titan, since you were the first!
If the population is increasing why is the prices still dropping? I don't know what planet you're from, but when prices is drop it because no is buying the product. Both prices and DDO population are related. Like I said, assuming I never played the game in my life, how does that help explain why the population and prices are on decline. I'm not the cause of why DDO is on the decline so again, please explain why DDO prices are still on the decline.
So if a company drops it's price, you are expecting the number of people to stay the same or drop? If the prices drops for a computer game that's a sign the product isn't doing well or they are getting ready to sell an expansion pack. Both NWN and GW have done this. I imagine WoW is going to do the same thing in a couple of months for Burning Crusade. DDO prices dropped during the summer. As matter fact of fact, It went from $50 to 20 dollars in over 6 months. That's poor sells for a product that hasn't even been out for a year.
So if a company drops it's price, you are expecting the number of people to stay the same or drop? Answer the question. No excuses or justifications. a simple yes or no.
Originally posted by wjrasmussen So if a company drops it's price, you are expecting the number of people to stay the same or drop? Answer the question. No excuses or justifications. a simple yes or no.
This question doesn't make sense. Are you saying because the prices drop do I expect the number of people playing the game to stay the game or drop? I can't say yes or no something unless your elaborate on what you mean?
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mind We3, he isn't getting his information from legitimate sources. WoW
is very equipment based. You cannot go through the game solo using the
same equipment. The author of that source of information didn't even
include his gear or class, which makes We3 look pretty foolish. I'm not
at all mad or irritated, but just goes to show how far fanboy will go
to prove their point, which is the point of stupidity. Look information
yourself and you'll that is a missing from that post.
I've seen
post like this in WoW, but they've included their gear, class and
tactics. The amount of days it took to finish WoW was over a month.
This post that We3 pulled out of his butt doesn't include this, which
means We3 has just embarassed him.
Read the thread, the druid class is mentioned as is the mage class, 2 days to get to lvl 60 lol lol lol
I
suggest you post on that thread yourself and tell them how crazy they
are for suggesting it then if you don't agree, as it seems the majority
of them do. It seems they know a lot more about WoW than you do lol lol
GO
on post on it let's all have a laugh lol lol lol. I will relink it on
here after you have, if you are not a member, make sure you use the
same name you do on here so we can see, go on do it, tell them how
ridiculous they are! lol lol lol
I read the entire topic. Other people have done the same thing and at
the most, you can only get 1 through 50 in 4 days. Again, your source
of information is questionable if not false. You should have read
through the whole damn thread and again, the guy doesn't mention
getting new equipment. The only way you can blast through WoW in a
manner of days if you played the game before, even the OP of that topic
admitted. Others mention, they had to use other toons to help them out.
So again, your source information isn't legitmate, you're making
yourself looking stupid laughing at non-legitmate source of information.
I've seen post like this in WoW, but they've included their gear, class and tactics. The amount of days it took to finish WoW was over a month. This post that We3 pulled out of his butt doesn't include this, which means We3 has just embarassed him.
But once again I ask? You can't finish an MMO. There are always things to do. Single player games have a finish MMO's do not.
I've seen post like this in WoW, but they've included their gear, class and tactics. The amount of days it took to finish WoW was over a month. This post that We3 pulled out of his butt doesn't include this, which means We3 has just embarassed him.
Read the thread, the druid class is mentioned as is the mage class, 2 days to get to lvl 60 lol lol lol
I suggest you post on that thread yourself and tell them how crazy they are for suggesting it then if you don't agree, as it seems the majority of them do. It seems they know a lot more about WoW than you do lol lol
GO on post on it let's all have a laugh lol lol lol. I will relink it on here after you have, if you are not a member, make sure you use the same name you do on here so we can see, go on do it, tell them how ridiculous they are! lol lol lol
I read the entire topic. Other people have done the same thing and at the most, you can only get 1 through 50 in 4 days. Again, your source of information is questionable if not false. You should have read through the whole damn thread and again, the guy doesn't mention getting new equipment. The only way you can blast through WoW in a manner of days if you played the game before, even the OP of that topic admitted. Others mention, they had to use other toons to help them out.
So again, your source information isn't legitmate, you're making yourself looking stupid laughing at non-legitmate source of information.
It is as legitimate as the information you give about DDO.
As I said, if you don't agree with them, tell them, go on, you certainly have an opinion on most things, if they are wrong, tell them, I'm waiting................
You yourself also said it could be done in 2 days without sleep etc.............
Have you told them how ridiculous they are yet, hurry up.
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
sources. WoW is very equipment based. You cannot go through the game
solo using the same equipment. The author of that source of information
didn't even include his gear or class, which makes We3 look pretty
foolish. I'm not at all mad or irritated, but just goes to show how far
fanboy will go to prove their point, which is the point of stupidity.
Look information yourself and you'll that is a missing from that post.
I've seen post like this in WoW, but they've included their gear, class
and tactics. The amount of days it took to finish WoW was over a month.
This post that We3 pulled out of his butt doesn't include this, which
means We3 has just embarassed him.
But once again I ask? You can't finish an MMO. There are always things to do. Single player games have a finish MMO's do not.
Exactly, my point after you reach level 60 they are more quests to do.
and other people have said the same thing. Nobody has agreed with that
post seeing as everyone has done it only in 2 days. DDO can beaten
without sleep, but I doubt it would take 2 days to do it. One full day
to go through the content.
If quests havent been done before (without guide) they take hours to complete, even the road to certain quests can swallow a whole day to find...
Level 4 in two hours?! wow thats some nasty XP farming!
lets see what you have to do to level to 4 (all quests done on normal difficulty in rushmode)
Level 1: (ill be nice and start after quests you have to do, to enter stormreach)
Lord Goodblades quests - 3 short quests with good xp
Guard Heorogar - Low road. short quest great xp
After these 4 quest you will still be missing 200-300 xp, but lets say DING LEVEL 2! gratz
TIME: about 20 mins
Level 2: This is the fastest way i know to level to 3, so here goes...
Durks secret - 10mins
Butchers Path - 15mins
Lighthouse - 10mins
Cartamons quest serie - 20mins
Osgoods basement - 10mins
Waterworks - 1 hour (4 parts with about 15mins each)
DING! you reached LEVEL 3! grats!
total time: just about 2 hours
TIME: 2 hours and 20 - 25 mins
Now this is where it gets intersting. you have uptained level 3 = 30.000 xp in 2 hours and 20mins. you now need to get hold of 20.000 more xp in minus 20 mins. here is some quests you could do to level to 4....
Seal of Shan-To-Kor - 1 hour
Redfang the unruled - 15mins
Dephes quest serie - 1 hour
the sacred helm - 20mins
the Swiped Signet - 15mins
I dont think i need to state the obvious here...stop trolling!
As I said, I don't play WoW anymore, too Fisher Price for my tastes. Half the people agreed on there it could be done in 2 days, some said 3 or 4, now, if you have a problem with their information, sign up to that forum and tell them, you are eager and keen to pick all the faults in DDO, a game you don't play, so go and tell those you disagree with about WoW how wrong they are, go on Mr WoW expert, it's your game, enlighten them with your knowledge!
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
the hell? The information repeated here is from actual gameplay and
other people have said the same thing. Nobody has agreed with that post
seeing as everyone has done it only in 2 days. DDO can beaten without
sleep, but I doubt it would take 2 days to do it. One full day to go
through the content.
As I said, I don't
play WoW anymore, too Fisher Price for my tastes. Half the people
agreed on there it could be done in 2 days, some said 3 or 4, now, if
you have a problem with their information, sign up to that forum and
tell them, you are eager and keen to pick all the faults in DDO, a game
you don't play, so go and tell those you disagree with about WoW how
wrong they are, go on Mr WoW expert, it's your game, enlighten them
with your knowledge!
Actually, no. Most of the
people on the topic disagree that this game can be finished in 2 days.
2 days sound like a good theory, but it can't be done and the poster
was obviously lying since he does not have his gear noted. Most
of them agreed that 4 days is the max and that if you do sleepless
nights. That doesn't mean the game is easy, but rather it speak volumes
about the player mentality because he spent 4 sleep nightss doing this.
Same thing with PvP when a guy took the whole month off to reach the
highest rank in PvP. It takes half a year for players to get the
highest rank and that's if they play everyday. You're trying to say WoW
is easy, but you fail because these players had to go to the extremes
and play the day for 4 days straight to do it.
And again, you
can't beat WoW, it's end game content takes months to beat. Once again,
we3, stop pulling stuff out of ass to make your argument look good.
Anybody whose play WoW and went to end game knows that it takes 3
months to 6 months to complete the whole game, if newer content hasn't
already come out by the time. Not to mention, WoW days upon days of
extra stuff and side quest.
However, DDO doesn't take that
long to go it's content. One whole week to go through the beginning to
end like I did. The games in areas were other RPGs succeed. As for that
board, I don't say anything to them, they already people in their mind
who are already disagree with that poster who pulling stuff out of his
ass about his post on WoW. Again, it's a nice theory, but it can't be
done.
Again, stop making references about age because I've
seen grown men on different DDO servers act like children because no
one was roleplaying or those people they were partying with weren't
serious about the quests. None of the other people were kids either.
What makes a game go to pieces is there maybe a lack of authority (In
the case of WoW) or there is a lack of fun factor. (In both the case of
DDO and EQ2) Again, I've partied with 14 and a 16 years old. If this
game was too complex for kids to play then explain why a 14 to 16 year
have level 6 to 8 characters on this game. If this game was too complex
are were these two able to manage a guild. Again, we3 stop speaking
your ass.
Kids play DDO just as they would any other mmorpg
out there, but the sad part is, is the number of players who are not
playing DDO. That's part that shoudl be the main focus on argument.
(But isn't which is no surprise)
DDO has under 90k people and majority of the people playing are European. My guess
is that the number of Americans playing is around 30-40k while European
probably make up 45k to 50k. A population of 30k isn't even half the
population in one state. Jesus man, don't you know your math? I mean it
takes 50k to run an mmorpg, but any mmorpg with numbers under 100k is a
pathetic game.
If it's been answered, I don't see it, so I'll ask again:
CaptainRPG, what other games on that list to the left are so good-looking as to make DDO look "horrible"? I just got done reading another DDO thread where Theo said, "I really like the graphics a lot. The characters are stunning in their details," so I'd like to know what MMOs look so great as to make DDO look as terrible as you say. And since I doubt you would answer that with "World of Warcraft," I'd like to know what you think of WoW's graphics compared to DDO's.
"The swings in DDO are so unrealistic it isn't even funny."
Heh, my dwarf paladin in WoW swings like a girl, with cute little girly sound effects, whereas my little halfling paladin in DDO swings an axe like he's got a pair. Just standing still with a shield and holy mace, my DDO dwarf cleric to me looks like he'll kick your ass if you look at him funny. I only get that same impression in WoW when my druid is in bear form. Other than that, while DDO player characters may have a sameness look to them, the environment detail is impressive.
Flipping around? Put some points into tumble and you can do backflips and forward flips in the middle of combat. And those flips are actually useful and not just for show because DDO has a realistic melee threat range. Do other games have an animation for when a character stands in front of another and blocks a barrage of arrows from hitting his teammate? What other games let you manually dodge a fireball?
You think DDO female elves look bulimic, while I think WoW female elves look like they need to hit the stairmaster.
A.I... more often than not when fighting intelligent monsters, they go straight for the spellcasters just like the party does. You mention fighting kobolds all the time, and kobolds are one of the best examples of this behavior.
I see the monsters attacking the person with the most aggro all the time, which is why wizards die real quick if they toss area-of-effect spells around haphazardly. A wizard tossing multiple fireballs at a creature will more often than not then get more attention than he wants. The main times I see monsters piling on one guy is when the guy is taunting effectively, or he is doing plenty of damage. Two-handed fighters can do decent area-of-effect melee damage which helps keep monsters' attention.
I don't know how this is even a point of debate. Nearly EVERY decent fight I've been in in DDO consists of a quick party chat beforehand as to who is going to do what due to the monsters having at least half a brain. The main ones that don't and just run around like you say are zombies. Kobolds run around too, but it's more like they're spring attacking than being mindless.
The dancing in DDO is pretty good. Not necessarily the character dancing, but the monster dancing. I now point anyone to youtube who hasn't seen the DDO Dance to the Music video. The earth elementals and beholders are good stuff.
Endgame is a separate issue. A game might have a great endgame but have a lousy journey getting to it, or vice-versa. If someone plays a game for a month or three and then has nothing else to do, it doesn't mean they didn't have fun for a month or three and that the game wasn't good for a month or three. Meanwhile, WoW 1-60 is rather different from 60+, and not everyone enjoys both.
PVE: I'd enjoy GW's world more if I didn't constantly run into invisible walls and could jump. DDO lets you jump from ledge to ledge and pull yourself up by your fingertips if you barely make the jump, or Feather Fall from great heights. Too bad City of Heroes seems to be one of the few (only?) games that gets flying right. WoW has lifelike dungeons? If there's one thing DDO is good at, (and the main thing people harp on about it), is it knows how to do dungeons. When I'm in a DDO dungeon, it feels like a dungeon.
For PVP, of course clerics lead the way because clerics are arguably the most powerful class, despite certain DDO nerfs to them -- although the Monty Haul factor clearly helps fighters. D&D isn't supposed to be a balanced PVP game. Many people say balancing for PVP is what screws up otherwise good games.
You often say you've beaten DDO doing your trial playing, but then you often only talk about kobolds and the early dungeons. Is the VoN series filled with kobolds and early-level dungeons? How about Twilight Forge? Or the Cult of Six series? Or Delera's Tomb? I don't think there's any kobolds in the Threnals. Or in Stormcleave. Or in Redwillow. Or in Gwylan's Stand. A lot of your DDO writings are as if you've never played past level five, and that you've only run with powerleveling zergers to get there.
about to reply to your post, point to point, when I remember WoW 7
million players and DDO has only 60k. If WoW was so poor as you say 7
million players, both adults and kids, wouldn't be playing it and why
isn't the game's price dropping. If DDO is so great why is the
population declining and the price of the game dropping?
Oh and forgot to mention, how I love how you ignore the comparsion with GW. It's beautiful to watch your ignorance at work.
Oh and forgot to mention, how I love how you ignore the comparsion with GW. It's beautiful to watch your ignorance at work.
And it's embarrasing watching your ignorance at work.
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
Care to explain? I mean it's not as if you have reason anyway, but I would love to your points.
Care to explain? I mean it's not as if you have reason anyway, but I would love to your points.
As i have asked you before, what strategies did you use to beat the Titan, since you 'completed' DDO some 2 months ago, you would have been the first!
You claimed that kobolds are all you faced until level 5.
You know nothing about DDO or WoW for that matter, I showed you some people's comments on the forum regarding the fact that you could level a character to 60 in WoW in two days, you said yes, if you did not sleep etc, then you said it couldn't be done, and that they were wrong, I told you to tell them in that case, (as people here in the DDO forum would not care) you have not done that, are you frightened they would rip you to shreds, you coward!
The new Honour system has launched in WoW with the latest patch, shouldn't you be there instead of here, or are you sick of getting your ass handed to you by 11 and 12 year olds????
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
Care to explain? I mean it's not as if you have reason anyway, but I would love to your points.
As
i have asked you before, what strategies did you use to beat the Titan,
since you 'completed' DDO some 2 months ago, you would have been the
first!
You claimed that kobolds are all you faced until level 5.
You
know nothing about DDO or WoW for that matter, I showed you some
people's comments on the forum regarding the fact that you could level
a character to 60 in WoW in two days, you said yes, if you did not
sleep etc, then you said it couldn't be done, and that they were wrong,
I told you to tell them in that case, (as people here in the DDO forum
would not care) you have not done that, are you frightened they would
rip you to shreds, you coward!
The new Honour system has
launched in WoW with the latest patch, shouldn't you be there instead
of here, or are you sick of getting your ass handed to you by 11 and 12
year olds????
I didn't PvP, I played RP
server. What part do you seem to have comprehending I don't even play
WoW anymore nor am I a WoW fanboy. However, I do respect WoW ability to
draw in players of all ages, which has DDO cannot do or compare on any
level.
Also stop using me as a means to an end. Assuming I didn't even pass
the training area of DDO online...you are still left with the question
as why is DDO prices declining, why is DDO population declining and why
are the DDO messageboards on the official forums and other websites on
the decline. As I told Bes, believe whatever you want, it's not going
to fix DDO current condition. Even I was here, other people would be
coming to this board telling us how much this game sucks. Many people
still come to this board to tell you how much this game sucks.
Care to explain? I mean it's not as if you have reason anyway, but I would love to your points.
As i have asked you before, what strategies did you use to beat the Titan, since you 'completed' DDO some 2 months ago, you would have been the first!
You claimed that kobolds are all you faced until level 5.
You know nothing about DDO or WoW for that matter, I showed you some people's comments on the forum regarding the fact that you could level a character to 60 in WoW in two days, you said yes, if you did not sleep etc, then you said it couldn't be done, and that they were wrong, I told you to tell them in that case, (as people here in the DDO forum would not care) you have not done that, are you frightened they would rip you to shreds, you coward!
The new Honour system has launched in WoW with the latest patch, shouldn't you be there instead of here, or are you sick of getting your ass handed to you by 11 and 12 year olds????
I didn't PvP, I played RP server. What part do you seem to have comprehending I don't even play WoW anymore nor am I a WoW fanboy. However, I do respect WoW ability to draw in players of all ages, which has DDO cannot do or compare on any level.
Also stop using me as a means to an end. Assuming I didn't even pass the training area of DDO online...you are still left with the question as why is DDO prices declining, why is DDO population declining and why are the DDO messageboards on the official forums and other websites on the decline. As I told Bes, believe whatever you want, it's not going to fix DDO current condition. Even I was here, other people would be coming to this board telling us how much this game sucks. Many people still come to this board to tell you how much this game sucks.
DDO's population IS increasing, I play, I see the extra people running around, see their descriptions when looking for a group and I talk to them.
You, know NOTHING on DDO's current state, absolutely NOTHING!
You still have not said how you beat the Titan, since you were the first!
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
Care to explain? I mean it's not as if you have reason anyway, but I would love to your points.
As
i have asked you before, what strategies did you use to beat the Titan,
since you 'completed' DDO some 2 months ago, you would have been the
first!
You claimed that kobolds are all you faced until level 5.
You
know nothing about DDO or WoW for that matter, I showed you some
people's comments on the forum regarding the fact that you could level
a character to 60 in WoW in two days, you said yes, if you did not
sleep etc, then you said it couldn't be done, and that they were wrong,
I told you to tell them in that case, (as people here in the DDO forum
would not care) you have not done that, are you frightened they would
rip you to shreds, you coward!
The new Honour system has
launched in WoW with the latest patch, shouldn't you be there instead
of here, or are you sick of getting your ass handed to you by 11 and 12
year olds????
I didn't PvP, I played RP
server. What part do you seem to have comprehending I don't even play
WoW anymore nor am I a WoW fanboy. However, I do respect WoW ability to
draw in players of all ages, which has DDO cannot do or compare on any
level.
Also stop using me as a means to an end. Assuming I
didn't even pass the training area of DDO online...you are still left
with the question as why is DDO prices declining, why is DDO population
declining and why are the DDO messageboards on the official forums and
other websites on the decline. As I told Bes, believe whatever you
want, it's not going to fix DDO current condition. Even I was here,
other people would be coming to this board telling us how much this
game sucks. Many people still come to this board to tell you how much
this game sucks.
DDO's population IS
increasing, I play, I see the extra people running around, see their
descriptions when looking for a group and I talk to them.
You, know NOTHING on DDO's current state, absolutely NOTHING!
You still have not said how you beat the Titan, since you were the first!
If
the population is increasing why is the prices still dropping? I don't
know what planet you're from, but when prices is drop it because no is
buying the product. Both prices and DDO population are related. Like I
said, assuming I never played the game in my life, how does that help
explain why the population and prices are on decline. I'm not the cause
of why DDO is on the decline so again, please explain why DDO prices
are still on the decline.
Care to explain? I mean it's not as if you have reason anyway, but I would love to your points.
As i have asked you before, what strategies did you use to beat the Titan, since you 'completed' DDO some 2 months ago, you would have been the first!
You claimed that kobolds are all you faced until level 5.
You know nothing about DDO or WoW for that matter, I showed you some people's comments on the forum regarding the fact that you could level a character to 60 in WoW in two days, you said yes, if you did not sleep etc, then you said it couldn't be done, and that they were wrong, I told you to tell them in that case, (as people here in the DDO forum would not care) you have not done that, are you frightened they would rip you to shreds, you coward!
The new Honour system has launched in WoW with the latest patch, shouldn't you be there instead of here, or are you sick of getting your ass handed to you by 11 and 12 year olds????
I didn't PvP, I played RP server. What part do you seem to have comprehending I don't even play WoW anymore nor am I a WoW fanboy. However, I do respect WoW ability to draw in players of all ages, which has DDO cannot do or compare on any level.
Also stop using me as a means to an end. Assuming I didn't even pass the training area of DDO online...you are still left with the question as why is DDO prices declining, why is DDO population declining and why are the DDO messageboards on the official forums and other websites on the decline. As I told Bes, believe whatever you want, it's not going to fix DDO current condition. Even I was here, other people would be coming to this board telling us how much this game sucks. Many people still come to this board to tell you how much this game sucks.
DDO's population IS increasing, I play, I see the extra people running around, see their descriptions when looking for a group and I talk to them.
You, know NOTHING on DDO's current state, absolutely NOTHING!
You still have not said how you beat the Titan, since you were the first!
If the population is increasing why is the prices still dropping? I don't know what planet you're from, but when prices is drop it because no is buying the product. Both prices and DDO population are related. Like I said, assuming I never played the game in my life, how does that help explain why the population and prices are on decline. I'm not the cause of why DDO is on the decline so again, please explain why DDO prices are still on the decline.
So if a company drops it's price, you are expecting the number of people to stay the same or drop?
Care to explain? I mean it's not as if you have reason anyway, but I would love to your points.
As
i have asked you before, what strategies did you use to beat the Titan,
since you 'completed' DDO some 2 months ago, you would have been the
first!
You claimed that kobolds are all you faced until level 5.
You
know nothing about DDO or WoW for that matter, I showed you some
people's comments on the forum regarding the fact that you could level
a character to 60 in WoW in two days, you said yes, if you did not
sleep etc, then you said it couldn't be done, and that they were wrong,
I told you to tell them in that case, (as people here in the DDO forum
would not care) you have not done that, are you frightened they would
rip you to shreds, you coward!
The new Honour system has
launched in WoW with the latest patch, shouldn't you be there instead
of here, or are you sick of getting your ass handed to you by 11 and 12
year olds????
I didn't PvP, I played RP
server. What part do you seem to have comprehending I don't even play
WoW anymore nor am I a WoW fanboy. However, I do respect WoW ability to
draw in players of all ages, which has DDO cannot do or compare on any
level.
Also stop using me as a means to an end. Assuming I
didn't even pass the training area of DDO online...you are still left
with the question as why is DDO prices declining, why is DDO population
declining and why are the DDO messageboards on the official forums and
other websites on the decline. As I told Bes, believe whatever you
want, it's not going to fix DDO current condition. Even I was here,
other people would be coming to this board telling us how much this
game sucks. Many people still come to this board to tell you how much
this game sucks.
DDO's population IS
increasing, I play, I see the extra people running around, see their
descriptions when looking for a group and I talk to them.
You, know NOTHING on DDO's current state, absolutely NOTHING!
You still have not said how you beat the Titan, since you were the first!
If
the population is increasing why is the prices still dropping? I don't
know what planet you're from, but when prices is drop it because no is
buying the product. Both prices and DDO population are related. Like I
said, assuming I never played the game in my life, how does that help
explain why the population and prices are on decline. I'm not the cause
of why DDO is on the decline so again, please explain why DDO prices
are still on the decline.
So if a company drops it's price, you are expecting the number of people to stay the same or drop?
If the prices drops for a computer game that's a sign the product isn't
doing well or they are getting ready to sell an expansion pack. Both
NWN and GW have done this. I imagine WoW is going to do the same thing
in a couple of months for Burning Crusade. DDO prices dropped during
the summer. As matter fact of fact, It went from $50 to 20 dollars in
over 6 months. That's poor sells for a product that hasn't even been
out for a year.
I bought DDO dvd version from amazon.com this week for 9 dollars. So, 30 days for 9 dollars sounds like a win/win for me. I liked the trial so I bought the game cheap and is a perfect bargin to tide me over on winter break from school. Depending how I like the game at end of 30 days I'll decide to keep it or unsub, but for 9 dollars I don't feel I lost much.
I think now is the perfect time to try DDO since the product is so cheap either online or from store shelves. I don't give a rats butt if the game is struggling or not. If I find the game fun then I don't mind paying for it, struggling in sales or not.
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Promote what you love instead of bashing what you hate.
I
bought DDO dvd version from amazon.com this week for 9 dollars. So, 30
days for 9 dollars sounds like a win/win for me. I liked the trial so I
bought the game cheap and is a perfect bargin to tide me over on winter
break from school. Depending how I like the game at end of 30 days I'll
decide to keep it or unsub, but for 9 dollars I don't feel I lost much.
I
think now is the perfect time to try DDO since the product is so cheap
either online or from store shelves. I don't give a rats butt if the
game is struggling or not. If I find the game fun then I don't mind
paying for it, struggling in sales or not.
ROFL! No insult to you, Sevenwind, but I rest my case We3.
Care to explain? I mean it's not as if you have reason anyway, but I would love to your points.
As i have asked you before, what strategies did you use to beat the Titan, since you 'completed' DDO some 2 months ago, you would have been the first!
You claimed that kobolds are all you faced until level 5.
You know nothing about DDO or WoW for that matter, I showed you some people's comments on the forum regarding the fact that you could level a character to 60 in WoW in two days, you said yes, if you did not sleep etc, then you said it couldn't be done, and that they were wrong, I told you to tell them in that case, (as people here in the DDO forum would not care) you have not done that, are you frightened they would rip you to shreds, you coward!
The new Honour system has launched in WoW with the latest patch, shouldn't you be there instead of here, or are you sick of getting your ass handed to you by 11 and 12 year olds????
I didn't PvP, I played RP server. What part do you seem to have comprehending I don't even play WoW anymore nor am I a WoW fanboy. However, I do respect WoW ability to draw in players of all ages, which has DDO cannot do or compare on any level.
Also stop using me as a means to an end. Assuming I didn't even pass the training area of DDO online...you are still left with the question as why is DDO prices declining, why is DDO population declining and why are the DDO messageboards on the official forums and other websites on the decline. As I told Bes, believe whatever you want, it's not going to fix DDO current condition. Even I was here, other people would be coming to this board telling us how much this game sucks. Many people still come to this board to tell you how much this game sucks.
DDO's population IS increasing, I play, I see the extra people running around, see their descriptions when looking for a group and I talk to them.
You, know NOTHING on DDO's current state, absolutely NOTHING!
You still have not said how you beat the Titan, since you were the first!
If the population is increasing why is the prices still dropping? I don't know what planet you're from, but when prices is drop it because no is buying the product. Both prices and DDO population are related. Like I said, assuming I never played the game in my life, how does that help explain why the population and prices are on decline. I'm not the cause of why DDO is on the decline so again, please explain why DDO prices are still on the decline.
So if a company drops it's price, you are expecting the number of people to stay the same or drop?
If the prices drops for a computer game that's a sign the product isn't doing well or they are getting ready to sell an expansion pack. Both NWN and GW have done this. I imagine WoW is going to do the same thing in a couple of months for Burning Crusade. DDO prices dropped during the summer. As matter fact of fact, It went from $50 to 20 dollars in over 6 months. That's poor sells for a product that hasn't even been out for a year.
So if a company drops it's price, you are expecting the number of people to stay the same or drop? Answer the question. No excuses or justifications. a simple yes or no.
This question doesn't make sense.
Are you saying because the prices drop do I expect the number of people
playing the game to stay the game or drop? I can't say yes or no
something unless your elaborate on what you mean?