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Geez there are alot of EVE Fanbois on this forum...

I know most companies posted a link on their websites to vote for their mmorpg and thats fair advertising it. When you see EVE win everything it was up for then you start to wonder lol....

Specially seeing as it beat WOW in best PVE, wanna know how it done that lol.

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  • ValorusValorus Member Posts: 235

    Just because you do not agree doesnt mean it's rigged.  I've played both WoW and Eve and when it came time to vote I didn't just pick one out of the blue, I actually thought about the topic I was voting for and then decided.  In all cases Eve was an option I choose it simply because I felt it was the better choice for me.  Doesn't mean the other game(s) it went up against were bad, just not my #1 pick.

    Isnt the whole fanbois term getting old?  I mean does it really offend anyone?

  • DartjeDartje Member Posts: 45

    To quote MMORPG.com:



    World of Warcraft has 7,000,000 subscribers and EVE 150,000. Yet, in our awards, that doesn't seem to matter. We cater to a more hardcore community it would seem, which may actually make the Goliath into David in this category.

    There you have your awnser. Hardcore players tend to go well out of their way to advertise their own "hardcore" game. And yes i play Eve Online too with 2 accounts but i didn't voted PVE eve :)

  • retrospecticretrospectic Member UncommonPosts: 1,466
    Originally posted by Dartje


    To quote MMORPG.com:





    World of Warcraft has 7,000,000 subscribers and EVE 150,000. Yet, in our awards, that doesn't seem to matter. We cater to a more hardcore community it would seem, which may actually make the Goliath into David in this category.




    There you have your awnser. Hardcore players tend to go well out of their way to advertise their own "hardcore" game. And yes i play Eve Online too with 2 accounts but i didn't voted PVE eve :)
    I have a feeling most of those people are too busy having fun in the game itself to vote on some sort of online poll.  Now EVE Online can say "Voted blah blah blah by MMORPG.COM!" while WoW has a commerical that incorporates Office Space.  I wonder who wins?
  • xIMPxxIMPx Member Posts: 191
    Because it takes soo much time to log on and vote.
  • TaramTaram Member CommonPosts: 1,700
    Originally posted by End_of_a_era


    I know most companies posted a link on their websites to vote for their mmorpg and thats fair advertising it. When you see EVE win everything it was up for then you start to wonder lol....
    Specially seeing as it beat WOW in best PVE, wanna know how it done that lol.
    Yes because EVE has soooooo many more people playing it than WoW does. 



    Get a grip on reality.  Eve has roughly 160k subscribers.  Eve players average 2 accounts each so figure 80,000 players verses WoW with 7.5 million subscriptions.  Even if WoW also averages 2 accounts per player (which I doubt) it would still have 3.5 million players.



    Now ask yourself:  How would EVE with only 80,000 players be able to rig it so WoW with 3.5 million players loses ?

    Answer:  It's impossible unless the WoW players don't really feel that WoW has the best PVE.  Remember:  A lot of EVE players (myself included) did not vote for EVE as the winner in every category.  I even voted for WoW in one of them ;)


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  • End_of_a_eraEnd_of_a_era Member Posts: 527

    I'm not saying it didn't deserve best PVP and graphics and maybe even story tho when i was in game theres very little.

     

    How it won best PVE tho? Theres hardly any PVE worth talking about

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by End_of_a_era


    I know most companies posted a link on their websites to vote for their mmorpg and thats fair advertising it. When you see EVE win everything it was up for then you start to wonder lol....
    Specially seeing as it beat WOW in best PVE, wanna know how it done that lol.
    Most companies? as far as I know, only CCP's EVE and Codemasters RF Online posted a link to the awards.
  • HerodesHerodes Member UncommonPosts: 1,494

    Is there a link, where I can see, who won in which category?
    Because I do not believe this, lol^^.

    I mean, i wouldn´t wonder, if WoW would win the PvP contest, because WoW often appears to be the only known MMOG by ppl.

    But EVE in PvE? Normally you come to EVE, after have tested 2-3 "more famous" MMOGs. And I remember the EVE community as an adult one.

    lmao ;)

  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902
    also keep in mind,  there may be more WoW haters than Eve subscribers who would intentionally not vote for WoW for anything out of pure spite

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  • brutotalbrutotal Member Posts: 276
    Go into a wow chat room and say your burnt out by raiding, wow's primary pve. You will get replies agreeing with you.



    Go into an eve chatroom and be prepared to be chased out by a stick if you say bad things about their game.



    Oh yeah and everyone who doesn't play wow blames wow for stealing players from their game and ruining their community so you have an army of people who will vote 0 out of spite.
  • TaramTaram Member CommonPosts: 1,700
    Originally posted by Rayx0r

    also keep in mind,  there may be more WoW haters than Eve subscribers who would intentionally not vote for WoW for anything out of pure spite


    THIS I can believe... and actually makes sense

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  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087

    I dont know about my fellow eve fans but i voted WoW for best PvE i was at least honest.

     

    Thoas to why eve wins so often well there are 2 reasons i can think off.

    1. Not many WoW players care at all about such things and kepp on leveling up.

    2. There are a lot of WoW haters and considering the finalists were WoW and EvE they would obviously not vote for the game they hate.

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  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857

    I myself ended up simply not voting for the best PvE category, quite simply because I felt niether of the finalists deserved the title at all. I still don't have a clue how the hell WOW and EVE made it to the end.

    Don't get me wrong, both have their strengths, especcially EVE, but saying they have the best PvE?

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  • SirShaun10SirShaun10 Member Posts: 15
    I dont like either. WoW makes me feel like a loser to society and takes away from my college education ;p. EVE is just too much to learn/comprehend and i felt really lost during the trial. I wanted to mine but everytime i tried to mine i got blowed the hell up.
  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857
    Originally posted by SirShaun10

    I dont like either. WoW makes me feel like a loser to society and takes away from my college education ;p. EVE is just too much to learn/comprehend and i felt really lost during the trial. I wanted to mine but everytime i tried to mine i got blowed the hell up.
    Well, it kind of helps to pay attention to your surroundings, stick to regions that are not heavily infested with dangerous pirates/ and or PKs. At least untill you're equipped to deal with and/or run from threats.

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  • SnaKeySnaKey Member Posts: 3,386


    Originally posted by Dartje
    And yes i play Eve Online too with 2 accounts but i didn't voted PVE eve :)

    Ditto, voted for WoW.

    EVE PVE is pretty crappy.

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  • lomillerlomiller Member Posts: 1,810

    Actually it’s always seemed to me the EVE fans are vastly outnumbered by the WoW fanbois who complain because EVE is more highly regarded and think WoW deserves the highest rankings just because it has more subscribers.

  • LeJohnLeJohn Member Posts: 313

    there is one other even simpler answer.

    WOW players are playing so not only dont have time to vote but did not know that there was a vote.  I also had never heard of  mmorpg.com until a few months ago and spotted the link while if was in a corp mine. When Im just mining I have EVE windowed so i can read my email, surf the net, post in forums and watch movies.  Note: this is a good thing about EVE.

     

    Anyhow, I really doubt that most of the WOW community has ever heard of this site. I played both EVE and WOW from gold but had no idea this site existed until as I said I was surfing the EVEO  looking at the dev blogs when I saw the link about the interview.

    While this sight may be important to the regulars I mentioned it to my clan of 10 years (we have been playing OG, MOG, MMOGs since 1996 and only one of the 80+ players had ever heard of this place.

    See to a majority of the game players in the world the awards are like some movie getting a sundance or cable ace award, the responce is "and?" (read this as so what).  

    EVE won the MMORPG best PVE award....   "And?"

  • lomillerlomiller Member Posts: 1,810


    Originally posted by LeJohn

    there is one other even simpler answer.
    WOW players are playing so not only dont have time to vote but did not know that there was a vote. 


    So, you are suggesting that WoW players don’t have jobs, and therefore never brows from work and can’t work their PC to do anything else but play WoW? I’m not a fan of the game and think it has a very high percentage of childish players but even I think you are being too harsh. No, WoW players browse the web during their breaks from work/school just like every other gamer and they use their PC for web browsing just like almost everyone else.

    In fact for the longest time WoW was the highest ranked game on this site, so obviously some of them were visiting and voting. “Strangely”, until EVE surpassed WoW in the game ranking no one ever complained about it, but once it did there have been weekly threads started by WoW fanbois dedicated to dedicated to complaining about nonexistent EVE fanbois.

    What WoW does have is a player base that consists mostly of players who have never played any other MMO, and don’t really care about the MMO genre in general and so they wouldn’t visit any non WoW site.

    This site, in contrast caters to people with a more general interest in MMOs and have played quite a few. While initially very popular with this type of crowd, WoW has increasingly fallen out of favor. People who have played a number of different games and have something to compare WoW to frequently feel one of two ways. Many like the game up to level 60 but don’t like the sudden transition to it being a raid-grind. There are also people like myself who think the 1-60 game feels like a solo grindfest.

    There are also people who like rerolling or like the end game raiding. In general though there is no great conspiracy. The community of people who like MMO’s in general and have played lots of them have mostly given WoW a try and are not that impressed by it. Opinions vary of course but in general this community views WoW as a good but not great game. Since this is the community a site like this is trying to reach WoW’s voting and ranking reflects that opinion.

  • lomillerlomiller Member Posts: 1,810


    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by End_of_a_era

    I know most companies posted a link on their websites to vote for their mmorpg and thats fair advertising it. When you see EVE win everything it was up for then you start to wonder lol....
    Specially seeing as it beat WOW in best PVE, wanna know how it done that lol.


    Most companies? as far as I know, only CCP's EVE and Codemasters RF Online posted a link to the awards.

    Then you lead a very sheltered life. Almost every company in the world will link to sites it considers important voices for their business. This includes important sites running awards voting.

    The fact that Blizzard does not speaks more to the fact that they don’t consider the community of people that follow MMO’s to be very important or very relevant. Given that they have more subscribers then that entire industry did a few years ago perhaps they are right, at least from a business perspective.

    Of course there is always the possibility that they simply don’t want to run the risk of their player base finding out WoW isn’t the only MMO in existence.

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by lomiller


     

    Originally posted by Gameloading


    Originally posted by End_of_a_era
    I know most companies posted a link on their websites to vote for their mmorpg and thats fair advertising it. When you see EVE win everything it was up for then you start to wonder lol....

    Specially seeing as it beat WOW in best PVE, wanna know how it done that lol.



    Most companies? as far as I know, only CCP's EVE and Codemasters RF Online posted a link to the awards.

    Then you lead a very sheltered life. Almost every company in the world will link to sites it considers important voices for their business. This includes important sites running awards voting.

    The fact that Blizzard does not speaks more to the fact that they don’t consider the community of people that follow MMO’s to be very important or very relevant. Given that they have more subscribers then that entire industry did a few years ago perhaps they are right, at least from a business perspective.

    Of course there is always the possibility that they simply don’t want to run the risk of their player base finding out WoW isn’t the only MMO in existence.

    Then I'm sure you will be more then happy to show us the newsposts of all those companies that posted a link to the mmorpg.com votings.
  • TerrorizeTerrorize Member Posts: 40

    i think the eve players are way more die hard gamers then the wow players. wow is still for the whole famalie. EVE aint a game for beginers. and most visitors of this site are quite hardcore gamers.

    Next to that there are also alot of WoW haters. A game that already got 7millions players and kinda fucks up the "mmorpg scene'' might not be apreciated by all. I didnt vote EVE for PvE just becouse it wasnt realistic xD.

  • gatherisgatheris Member UncommonPosts: 1,016
    Originally posted by lomiller


     

     

    Of course there is always the possibility that they simply don’t want to run the risk of their player base finding out WoW isn’t the only MMO in existence.



    That simple sentence is probably not only true but speaks volumes

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  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925
    Originally posted by Dartje


    To quote MMORPG.com:





    World of Warcraft has 7,000,000 subscribers and EVE 150,000. Yet, in our awards, that doesn't seem to matter. We cater to a more hardcore community it would seem, which may actually make the Goliath into David in this category.





    There you have your awnser. Hardcore players tend to go well out of their way to advertise their own "hardcore" game. And yes i play Eve Online too with 2 accounts but i didn't voted PVE eve :)

    thats actually funny lol.

    We all know EVE plastered the link to mmorpg.com over 1 year ago about the voting and loads of eve plaers came and never left is all.Prior to this eve was not even top 5 rated game on this site.Suddenly after that front page on offical site whoopie eve so improved it became number 1.

  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087
    Originally posted by hercules

    Originally posted by Dartje


    To quote MMORPG.com:





    World of Warcraft has 7,000,000 subscribers and EVE 150,000. Yet, in our awards, that doesn't seem to matter. We cater to a more hardcore community it would seem, which may actually make the Goliath into David in this category.





    There you have your awnser. Hardcore players tend to go well out of their way to advertise their own "hardcore" game. And yes i play Eve Online too with 2 accounts but i didn't voted PVE eve :)

    thats actually funny lol.

    We all know EVE plastered the link to mmorpg.com over 1 year ago about the voting and loads of eve plaers came and never left is all.Prior to this eve was not even top 5 rated game on this site.Suddenly after that front page on offical site whoopie eve so improved it became number 1.

     

     

    Then you are seriously misinfomed WoW boy.

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