Well it wouldn't be fair if WoW won simply because more people voted for it compared to EVE, especially when WoW has a bigger population. Doesn't seem fair to me.
Regardless, I hate EVE with a burning passion. If I wanted to level up while I was sleeping I'd do so without paying a monthly fee. It's called real life.
I have to preface my post by stating I am not fan of EVE, but I can recognize the brilliance behind it, being that it's a player driven game.
What I think is funny is how often people complain how 'complex' or 'hard' EVE is, when often the hard and complex part of the game is really the player itself. What I mean by that is when you play EVE or any other game [MMO or otherwise] you are facing how you conceptualize the problems to be resolved within the game environment. Some of these problems could be the UI in direct or indirect ways, or just a plain NPC opponent in your path as a player. Or it could be a puzzle, or whatever. Ultimately, if you can't conceive a solution for whatever it is, then you won't be able to solve it, thus be able to play the game to your maximum potential.
That's also why I can't play EVE, I just can't wrap my head around some of the strategies required, I tend to think of directions of 2d planes, not true 3d directions. Hell, even when I played I usually tried to size up my opponents to put them on the same plane of movement as me, but trust me it doesn't work that well in EVE.
With that being said, this does not mean EVE is a bad game, it means it's not the game for you. But what is funnier is that quite a few people can get into it like some folks get into chess [which I love] or dominos [Mmmm bones baby...], and some other folks cannot get those games either, but you don't see mass droves of anti-chess or anti-dominos players as you see many anti-EVE or anti-WoW players. That's just my two cents on it. And I do think the team at CCP has earned their awards for that game compared to their competitors in the context that they gave people a game they can influence rather than a static story-book with 3d pictures.
In fact for the longest time WoW was the highest ranked game on this site, so obviously some of them were visiting and voting. “Strangely”, until EVE surpassed WoW in the game ranking no one ever complained about it, but once it did there have been weekly threads started by WoW fanbois dedicated to dedicated to complaining about nonexistent EVE fanbois. What WoW does have is a player base that consists mostly of players who have never played any other MMO, and don’t really care about the MMO genre in general and so they wouldn’t visit any non WoW site. This site, in contrast caters to people with a more general interest in MMOs and have played quite a few. While initially very popular with this type of crowd, WoW has increasingly fallen out of favor. People who have played a number of different games and have something to compare WoW to frequently feel one of two ways. Many like the game up to level 60 but don’t like the sudden transition to it being a raid-grind. There are also people like myself who think the 1-60 game feels like a solo grindfest. There are also people who like rerolling or like the end game raiding. In general though there is no great conspiracy. The community of people who like MMO’s in general and have played lots of them have mostly given WoW a try and are not that impressed by it. Opinions vary of course but in general this community views WoW as a good but not great game. Since this is the community a site like this is trying to reach WoW’s voting and ranking reflects that opinion.
as much as it can hurt to WoW players, that is the truth
I have to preface my post by stating I am not fan of EVE, but I can recognize the brilliance behind it, being that it's a player driven game. What I think is funny is how often people complain how 'complex' or 'hard' EVE is, when often the hard and complex part of the game is really the player itself. What I mean by that is when you play EVE or any other game [MMO or otherwise] you are facing how you conceptualize the problems to be resolved within the game environment. Some of these problems could be the UI in direct or indirect ways, or just a plain NPC opponent in your path as a player. Or it could be a puzzle, or whatever. Ultimately, if you can't conceive a solution for whatever it is, then you won't be able to solve it, thus be able to play the game to your maximum potential. That's also why I can't play EVE, I just can't wrap my head around some of the strategies required, I tend to think of directions of 2d planes, not true 3d directions. Hell, even when I played I usually tried to size up my opponents to put them on the same plane of movement as me, but trust me it doesn't work that well in EVE. With that being said, this does not mean EVE is a bad game, it means it's not the game for you. But what is funnier is that quite a few people can get into it like some folks get into chess [which I love] or dominos [Mmmm bones baby...], and some other folks cannot get those games either, but you don't see mass droves of anti-chess or anti-dominos players as you see many anti-EVE or anti-WoW players. That's just my two cents on it. And I do think the team at CCP has earned their awards for that game compared to their competitors in the context that they gave people a game they can influence rather than a static story-book with 3d pictures. -- Bridget
Excellent post. I agree 100%
I have played EvE (and Quit EvE) on two separate occasions. Each time I left EvE I left with a great deal of respect for the game and its developers. It really is a masterpiece in my opinion.
2: The many voodoo ceremonies preformed over the globe in order to bring about victory probably helped.
3: The 10 virgins sacrificed at each ceremony resided over by a voodoo priest (EVE DEV) no doubt swung it.
4: The virgins were all WoW fanbois.
5: The last one was a lie but I just couldn't resist it.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
Eve won....but it CAN'T be because it's an awesome game, ITS BECAUSE THE FUCKING 'EVE FANBOIS' RIGGED IT!!!!!! And we would of gotten away with it to, if it wasn't for those fanbois and their meddling frigs.
More seriously though....
Graphics: We'll you cant really argue this, eve does have the best graphics.
PVE: Hmm. Wows pve consists of, mostly, doing quests, raiding, and killing fairies outside citys. Eves pve is doing missions, running complexes, exploration, COSMOS, NPCing in belts, and a small part of the market
PVP: No contest, EVEs PVP is supreme. Fleet battles, alliances contesting each others space, piracy, gate camping, LOSING SOMETHING WHEN YOU DIE!!, UNCONSENSUAL PVP!!! vs what? Arena style consensual pvp when you don't lose anything when you die? ;/ sounds boring tbh, in eve you can FEEL a victory.
Storyline: One side of the story line is the "we came from earth through a wormhole 25,000 years ago...etc.." the other part is the PLAYER DRIVEN SIDE. The rise of alliances like Stain, Fountain, Curse, Venal are ALL part of history. The Great Northern war with Fade, Deklein, Phoenix, Band of Brothers is part of EVE storyline. The longest war in eve, Stain Alliance vs Curse Alliance lasting about 2 years is part of EVEs story line.
World of Warcraft has 7,000,000 subscribers and EVE 150,000. Yet, in our awards, that doesn't seem to matter. We cater to a more hardcore community it would seem, which may actually make the Goliath into David in this category.
There you have your awnser. Hardcore players tend to go well out of their way to advertise their own "hardcore" game. And yes i play Eve Online too with 2 accounts but i didn't voted PVE eve
thats actually funny lol.
We all know EVE plastered the link to mmorpg.com over 1 year ago about the voting and loads of eve plaers came and never left is all.Prior to this eve was not even top 5 rated game on this site.Suddenly after that front page on offical site whoopie eve so improved it became number 1.
Originally posted by Dexus ROFLMAO!! Graphics: We'll you cant really argue this, eve does have the best graphics. PVE: Hmm. Wows pve consists of, mostly, doing quests, raiding, and killing fairies outside citys. Eves pve is doing missions, running complexes, exploration, COSMOS, NPCing in belts, and a small part of the marketPVP: No contest, EVEs PVP is supreme. Fleet battles, alliances contesting each others space, piracy, gate camping, LOSING SOMETHING WHEN YOU DIE!!, UNCONSENSUAL PVP!!! vs what? Arena style consensual pvp when you don't lose anything when you die? ;/ sounds boring tbh, in eve you can FEEL a victory.Storyline: One side of the story line is the "we came from earth through a wormhole 25,000 years ago...etc.." the other part is the PLAYER DRIVEN SIDE. The rise of alliances like Stain, Fountain, Curse, Venal are ALL part of history. The Great Northern war with Fade, Deklein, Phoenix, Band of Brothers is part of EVE storyline. The longest war in eve, Stain Alliance vs Curse Alliance lasting about 2 years is part of EVEs story line. So.... eve> all /me runs away
I accept your excuse you only know two mmorpgs if you excuse my weak english.
But... PVE, if reduced to WOW and EVE: also in WOW you have to explore. Missions? well...missions. between mining and trading I mostly did missions. often courier with frigate and destroyer, then "some" killmissions with cruiser and BC. I would not call it "loads of fun" if i get another "rogue drone infestation" or the 20th "illegal activity"-mission. Last i was on i had 30k Loyalitypoints at an agent. How many more missions do i have to fly, until the agent offers something useful to me? I have "Military connections" maxed out +several other social skills. I doesn´t have to be a t2-BS for 4mil LPs or something. If you make this missions 5-6 times, well, ok. But after then it is a pain-in-the-ass. Yep, even with tractor beam. Trading? Setting a 5-10jumps buy-offer, fly to the place where bought, and sell it at a different place/price. like couriermissions with open marketplace-windows. Mining? ... Research i did not have tested. Once i wanted to, but did not find any open research slot.
PvP: like I said somewhere before, I prefer the DAoC-system, but tastes are different. Same to "U LOOSE SOMETHING IF U DIE!!!!".
Storyline: come on. Alliances form and break in many games. (Btw, are there any ideas, where suddenly the races have war against each other? like Amarr vs Minnies or something, shouldbe funny. ) The war in DAoC between Albion, Midgard, Hibernia is lasting for 5 years now. (I believe^^)
Graphics: We'll you cant really argue this, eve does have the best graphics. PVE: Hmm. Wows pve consists of, mostly, doing quests, raiding, and killing fairies outside citys. Eves pve is doing missions, running complexes, exploration, COSMOS, NPCing in belts, and a small part of the market PVP: No contest, EVEs PVP is supreme. Fleet battles, alliances contesting each others space, piracy, gate camping, LOSING SOMETHING WHEN YOU DIE!!, UNCONSENSUAL PVP!!! vs what? Arena style consensual pvp when you don't lose anything when you die? ;/ sounds boring tbh, in eve you can FEEL a victory. Storyline: One side of the story line is the "we came from earth through a wormhole 25,000 years ago...etc.." the other part is the PLAYER DRIVEN SIDE. The rise of alliances like Stain, Fountain, Curse, Venal are ALL part of history. The Great Northern war with Fade, Deklein, Phoenix, Band of Brothers is part of EVE storyline. The longest war in eve, Stain Alliance vs Curse Alliance lasting about 2 years is part of EVEs story line.
So.... eve> all
/me runs away
I accept your excuse you only know two mmorpgs if you excuse my weak english.
But...
PVE, if reduced to WOW and EVE: also in WOW you have to explore.
Missions? well...missions. between mining and trading I mostly did missions. often courier with frigate and destroyer, then "some" killmissions with cruiser and BC. I would not call it "loads of fun" if i get another "rogue drone infestation" or the 20th "illegal activity"-mission. Last i was on i had 30k Loyalitypoints at an agent. How many more missions do i have to fly, until the agent offers something useful to me? I have "Military connections" maxed out +several other social skills. I doesn´t have to be a t2-BS for 4mil LPs or something.
If you make this missions 5-6 times, well, ok. But after then it is a pain-in-the-ass. Yep, even with tractor beam.
Trading? Setting a 5-10jumps buy-offer, fly to the place where bought, and sell it at a different place/price. like couriermissions with open marketplace-windows.
Mining? ...
Research i did not have tested. Once i wanted to, but did not find any open research slot.
PvP: like I said somewhere before, I prefer the DAoC-system, but tastes are different. Same to "U LOOSE SOMETHING IF U DIE!!!!".
Storyline: come on. Alliances form and break in many games. (Btw, are there any ideas, where suddenly the races have war against each other? like Amarr vs Minnies or something, shouldbe funny. ) The war in DAoC between Albion, Midgard, Hibernia is lasting for 5 years now. (I believe^^)
Good nite all
If you did even a iota of real reserch you would see that most of your concerns have been met.
There are now randomly spawning npc deadspace zones in all areas of space you can go to they have to be found tho using probes and the reward is VERY high.
Also we have the cosmoss regions which are a series of linked storys you can find and try out which have some very nice rewards at the end of them.
Also trading is better since the minimum warp in distance was reduced to 0km.
Now you dont ned to find reserch slots as you can amke them just set up a corp witht he express purpose of swetting up a POS in high sec where you can Anchor a load of reserch pods.
As for the storyline bit you seem to miss the point that EvE is all about the PLAYERS not some NPC storyline thats just background for the political opera which is alliance and corp turf wars.
Also there is later this year quater 1 i belive factional warfare comming so there will be a lot of warfare between Mimitar and amarr factions for example and you can join these wars by doing faction agets.
These work by for example your agent [Mimitar] wants you to escort a convoy to a set location say it starts at location A and location B is where they warp off to a designated drop off zone. Problem is they are like 50km from the warp off point and it will take them 10 minuites to get there. You are also told to expect amarr raiders tho.
Meanwhile some Amarr agent runner gets a mission to intercept the same convoy and to steal its cargo befoe they escape to the warp off point you are however to expect an escort of some type [ guess who ].
Anyway say 7 minuites into your escort you are only 4km from the warp out zone suddenly an Amarr palyer warps in and seing you targets you and attacks you in an 0.5 sector. Now usually the NPC police will intercede here as you are in empire [safe] space but since you and the attacker are within an faction mission zone they will not interfere.
Ya it seems slightly suspicious when a PVE centric game loses to a PVP centric game in a PVE contest
Plus its quite the coincidence that the second it is sudgested that EvE has the slightest of flaws you are instantly branded a Fanboi of whatever game EvE is being compared with at the time
I also find it to be somewhat unusual that any thread which contains two capital E's and a lower case V in the title anywhere instantly becomes filled with animosity and everyone takes sides like their lives depends on it
im glad this forum is all about EVE .. im sick of seeing WOW fanboi's clean up forums ...
Eve fanbois are even more poisonous - running around claiming that their game is superior to all other games. Eve retains its players by only requiring them to log on once a month to change lvl 5 skils.
-- Note: PlayNC will refuse to allow you access to your account if you forget your password and can't provide a scanned image of the product key for the first product you purchased..... LOL
im glad this forum is all about EVE .. im sick of seeing WOW fanboi's clean up forums ...
Eve fanbois are even more poisonous - running around claiming that their game is superior to all other games. Eve retains its players by only requiring them to log on once a month to change lvl 5 skils. This is of course not 100% accurate most level 5 skills are not worth learning.
Long time no see Grim hows things in the world of RFonline then
Of course i miss your old Poisoness Troll posts pls come back i loved them.
Originally posted by LordSlater If you did even a iota of real reserch
Thanks for the answer.
I have to admit, my limited knowledge is based to EVE ´til Oct 2006, 1.7M Skill points. It sounds good in theory, I should give EVE another try... like 3 times before^^.
But what shall I do with a char specced on missionrunning and 30k LPs? It tempts to collect more loyalitypoints with making more missions. More missions...
I have to admit, my limited knowledge is based to EVE ´til Oct 2006, 1.7M Skill points.
It sounds good in theory, I should give EVE another try... like 3 times before^^.
But what shall I do with a char specced on missionrunning and 30k LPs? It tempts to collect more loyalitypoints with making more missions.
More missions...
Well there is an easier way of doing things that not everyone does yet. Right now im guessing you do lots of kill missions for say 7-8 hours a day when playing eve if so i dont blame you.
Instead go for either a Manufacturing/Marketing/Prodution or storage agent as those do 95% courier missions and 5% kill missions. Now what you need to do is get to level 4 agents in those areas and you basically do the storyline missions. Because courier missions are so easy and fast to do you get a lot of the storyline missions [roughly one for eveery 16 missions] Now the story line missions usually give you a level 4 implant which sells for 30 million right now.
Also when you reach 15k LP with you arent between the numbers of 15k and 21k you get connection books which are worth between 70-100 million. Get yourself multiple level 4 agents to work around with and you wil find youerself earning a lot of ingame cash for just a couple hors work a day.
Therefore you will have more time each week to do fun stuf like getting a throwaway battle cruiser and going PvP if you want alsop you wil ahve a full set of level 4 implants so you learn stuff faster.
Now there are 2 NPC corps whicha re Gillent that are good for this as they ahve a big close grouoping of level 4 agents to farm there names are.
Creodron [also have some good reserchagents worth gettin one working for you as you never know].
Such threads will only get you attacked.This site has become a second home for EVE players.
I guarantee you it HASN'T!!! Any good EVE player spends most of his time looking at websites that give info on PvP, cool ship setups, and where the best agents are. They also look around to see what the hell some of the stuff in the game does. Been playin for a year and a half and I still don't get all of the game. Believe me when I say, I spend very little time here. The answers exist in other websites.
(Don't be a smart ass and say, "What are you doing here then?")
But I must admit. This site gave me the link that got me hooked on EVE.
I can pwn if I want to, I can leave my pants behind...
Originally posted by Gameloading Then I'm sure you will be more then happy to show us the newsposts of all those companies that posted a link to the mmorpg.com votings.
SpellBorn - seemed to have been originally posted on the forums by a member, later placed on the front page by an admin. http://www.tcos.com/news/?id=629
EVE Online - (can't leave this one out) the post hasn't fallen off the main page yet. http://www.eve-online.com/
Those were just a few of the "official" posts that made it to the front page of the games' web sites. There are probably hundreds of other posts buried in official and unofficial forums and game sites.
Real Time Skill training turns you into an instant fanboi when you realize you will always be ahead of those that are subscribed for less time then you. The fanbois want cannon fodder to gank.
Comments
Most WoW players learned about WoW from friends, TV ads, just being a Blizzard fan, and as such they aren't as educated on other MMORPGs.
It is clear why CCP wants to have the link to this site and Blizzard doesn't want the link to this site.
Well it wouldn't be fair if WoW won simply because more people voted for it compared to EVE, especially when WoW has a bigger population. Doesn't seem fair to me.
Regardless, I hate EVE with a burning passion. If I wanted to level up while I was sleeping I'd do so without paying a monthly fee. It's called real life.
I have to preface my post by stating I am not fan of EVE, but I can recognize the brilliance behind it, being that it's a player driven game.
What I think is funny is how often people complain how 'complex' or 'hard' EVE is, when often the hard and complex part of the game is really the player itself. What I mean by that is when you play EVE or any other game [MMO or otherwise] you are facing how you conceptualize the problems to be resolved within the game environment. Some of these problems could be the UI in direct or indirect ways, or just a plain NPC opponent in your path as a player. Or it could be a puzzle, or whatever. Ultimately, if you can't conceive a solution for whatever it is, then you won't be able to solve it, thus be able to play the game to your maximum potential.
That's also why I can't play EVE, I just can't wrap my head around some of the strategies required, I tend to think of directions of 2d planes, not true 3d directions. Hell, even when I played I usually tried to size up my opponents to put them on the same plane of movement as me, but trust me it doesn't work that well in EVE.
With that being said, this does not mean EVE is a bad game, it means it's not the game for you. But what is funnier is that quite a few people can get into it like some folks get into chess [which I love] or dominos [Mmmm bones baby...], and some other folks cannot get those games either, but you don't see mass droves of anti-chess or anti-dominos players as you see many anti-EVE or anti-WoW players. That's just my two cents on it. And I do think the team at CCP has earned their awards for that game compared to their competitors in the context that they gave people a game they can influence rather than a static story-book with 3d pictures.
-- Bridget
as much as it can hurt to WoW players, that is the truth
Excellent post. I agree 100%
I have played EvE (and Quit EvE) on two separate occasions. Each time I left EvE I left with a great deal of respect for the game and its developers. It really is a masterpiece in my opinion.
EVE FANBOIS ALERT! GO TO YOUR SHELTERS NOW!
Ok now that's over, reasons EVE won the awards?
1: EVE cures cancer, everyone knows that!
2: The many voodoo ceremonies preformed over the globe in order to bring about victory probably helped.
3: The 10 virgins sacrificed at each ceremony resided over by a voodoo priest (EVE DEV) no doubt swung it.
4: The virgins were all WoW fanbois.
5: The last one was a lie but I just couldn't resist it.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
The reason there are a lot of EVE fanboYs here is there is a lot of downtime in EVE.
All opinions on PVE need to go to the post that was made for that flame war.
I can pwn if I want to, I can leave my pants behind...
Eve won....but it CAN'T be because it's an awesome game, ITS BECAUSE THE FUCKING 'EVE FANBOIS' RIGGED IT!!!!!! And we would of gotten away with it to, if it wasn't for those fanbois and their meddling frigs.
More seriously though....
Graphics: We'll you cant really argue this, eve does have the best graphics.
PVE: Hmm. Wows pve consists of, mostly, doing quests, raiding, and killing fairies outside citys. Eves pve is doing missions, running complexes, exploration, COSMOS, NPCing in belts, and a small part of the market
PVP: No contest, EVEs PVP is supreme. Fleet battles, alliances contesting each others space, piracy, gate camping, LOSING SOMETHING WHEN YOU DIE!!, UNCONSENSUAL PVP!!! vs what? Arena style consensual pvp when you don't lose anything when you die? ;/ sounds boring tbh, in eve you can FEEL a victory.
Storyline: One side of the story line is the "we came from earth through a wormhole 25,000 years ago...etc.." the other part is the PLAYER DRIVEN SIDE. The rise of alliances like Stain, Fountain, Curse, Venal are ALL part of history. The Great Northern war with Fade, Deklein, Phoenix, Band of Brothers is part of EVE storyline. The longest war in eve, Stain Alliance vs Curse Alliance lasting about 2 years is part of EVEs story line.
So.... eve> all
/me runs away
thats actually funny lol.
We all know EVE plastered the link to mmorpg.com over 1 year ago about the voting and loads of eve plaers came and never left is all.Prior to this eve was not even top 5 rated game on this site.Suddenly after that front page on offical site whoopie eve so improved it became number 1.
Then you are seriously misinfomed WoW boy.
Not really, noBut...
PVE, if reduced to WOW and EVE: also in WOW you have to explore.
Missions? well...missions. between mining and trading I mostly did missions. often courier with frigate and destroyer, then "some" killmissions with cruiser and BC. I would not call it "loads of fun" if i get another "rogue drone infestation" or the 20th "illegal activity"-mission. Last i was on i had 30k Loyalitypoints at an agent. How many more missions do i have to fly, until the agent offers something useful to me? I have "Military connections" maxed out +several other social skills. I doesn´t have to be a t2-BS for 4mil LPs or something.
If you make this missions 5-6 times, well, ok. But after then it is a pain-in-the-ass. Yep, even with tractor beam.
Trading? Setting a 5-10jumps buy-offer, fly to the place where bought, and sell it at a different place/price. like couriermissions with open marketplace-windows.
Mining? ...
Research i did not have tested. Once i wanted to, but did not find any open research slot.
PvP: like I said somewhere before, I prefer the DAoC-system, but tastes are different. Same to "U LOOSE SOMETHING IF U DIE!!!!".
Storyline: come on. Alliances form and break in many games. (Btw, are there any ideas, where suddenly the races have war against each other? like Amarr vs Minnies or something, shouldbe funny.
) The war in DAoC between Albion, Midgard, Hibernia is lasting for 5 years now. (I believe^^)
Good nite all
But...
PVE, if reduced to WOW and EVE: also in WOW you have to explore.
Missions? well...missions. between mining and trading I mostly did missions. often courier with frigate and destroyer, then "some" killmissions with cruiser and BC. I would not call it "loads of fun" if i get another "rogue drone infestation" or the 20th "illegal activity"-mission. Last i was on i had 30k Loyalitypoints at an agent. How many more missions do i have to fly, until the agent offers something useful to me? I have "Military connections" maxed out +several other social skills. I doesn´t have to be a t2-BS for 4mil LPs or something.
If you make this missions 5-6 times, well, ok. But after then it is a pain-in-the-ass. Yep, even with tractor beam.
Trading? Setting a 5-10jumps buy-offer, fly to the place where bought, and sell it at a different place/price. like couriermissions with open marketplace-windows.
Mining? ...
Research i did not have tested. Once i wanted to, but did not find any open research slot.
PvP: like I said somewhere before, I prefer the DAoC-system, but tastes are different. Same to "U LOOSE SOMETHING IF U DIE!!!!".
Storyline: come on. Alliances form and break in many games. (Btw, are there any ideas, where suddenly the races have war against each other? like Amarr vs Minnies or something, shouldbe funny.
) The war in DAoC between Albion, Midgard, Hibernia is lasting for 5 years now. (I believe^^)
Good nite all
If you did even a iota of real reserch you would see that most of your concerns have been met.
There are now randomly spawning npc deadspace zones in all areas of space you can go to they have to be found tho using probes and the reward is VERY high.
Also we have the cosmoss regions which are a series of linked storys you can find and try out which have some very nice rewards at the end of them.
Also trading is better since the minimum warp in distance was reduced to 0km.
Now you dont ned to find reserch slots as you can amke them just set up a corp witht he express purpose of swetting up a POS in high sec where you can Anchor a load of reserch pods.
As for the storyline bit you seem to miss the point that EvE is all about the PLAYERS not some NPC storyline thats just background for the political opera which is alliance and corp turf wars.
Also there is later this year quater 1 i belive factional warfare comming so there will be a lot of warfare between Mimitar and amarr factions for example and you can join these wars by doing faction agets.
These work by for example your agent [Mimitar] wants you to escort a convoy to a set location say it starts at location A and location B is where they warp off to a designated drop off zone. Problem is they are like 50km from the warp off point and it will take them 10 minuites to get there. You are also told to expect amarr raiders tho.
Meanwhile some Amarr agent runner gets a mission to intercept the same convoy and to steal its cargo befoe they escape to the warp off point you are however to expect an escort of some type [ guess who
].
Anyway say 7 minuites into your escort you are only 4km from the warp out zone suddenly an Amarr palyer warps in and seing you targets you and attacks you in an 0.5 sector. Now usually the NPC police will intercede here as you are in empire [safe] space but since you and the attacker are within an faction mission zone they will not interfere.
So as you can see some inovative [for eve] stuff.
Ya it seems slightly suspicious when a PVE centric game loses to a PVP centric game in a PVE contest
Plus its quite the coincidence that the second it is sudgested that EvE has the slightest of flaws you are instantly branded a Fanboi of whatever game EvE is being compared with at the time
I also find it to be somewhat unusual that any thread which contains two capital E's and a lower case V in the title anywhere instantly becomes filled with animosity and everyone takes sides like their lives depends on it
(that wasent sarcastic at all ....
)
--
Note: PlayNC will refuse to allow you access to your account if you forget your password and can't provide a scanned image of the product key for the first product you purchased..... LOL
Long time no see Grim hows things in the world of RFonline then
Of course i miss your old Poisoness Troll posts pls come back i loved them.
Thanks for the answer.
I have to admit, my limited knowledge is based to EVE ´til Oct 2006, 1.7M Skill points.
It sounds good in theory, I should give EVE another try... like 3 times before^^.
But what shall I do with a char specced on missionrunning and 30k LPs? It tempts to collect more loyalitypoints with making more missions.
More missions...
Thanks for the answer.
I have to admit, my limited knowledge is based to EVE ´til Oct 2006, 1.7M Skill points.
It sounds good in theory, I should give EVE another try... like 3 times before^^.
But what shall I do with a char specced on missionrunning and 30k LPs? It tempts to collect more loyalitypoints with making more missions.
More missions...
Well there is an easier way of doing things that not everyone does yet. Right now im guessing you do lots of kill missions for say 7-8 hours a day when playing eve if so i dont blame you.
Instead go for either a Manufacturing/Marketing/Prodution or storage agent as those do 95% courier missions and 5% kill missions. Now what you need to do is get to level 4 agents in those areas and you basically do the storyline missions. Because courier missions are so easy and fast to do you get a lot of the storyline missions [roughly one for eveery 16 missions] Now the story line missions usually give you a level 4 implant which sells for 30 million right now.
Also when you reach 15k LP with you arent between the numbers of 15k and 21k you get connection books which are worth between 70-100 million. Get yourself multiple level 4 agents to work around with and you wil find youerself earning a lot of ingame cash for just a couple hors work a day.
Therefore you will have more time each week to do fun stuf like getting a throwaway battle cruiser and going PvP if you want alsop you wil ahve a full set of level 4 implants so you learn stuff faster.
Now there are 2 NPC corps whicha re Gillent that are good for this as they ahve a big close grouoping of level 4 agents to farm there names are.
Creodron [also have some good reserchagents worth gettin one working for you as you never know].
Fedmart.
I hope this helps.
All I meant was there is a lot of time in-game where you don't really do anything demanding your full attention.
I can pwn if I want to, I can leave my pants behind...
(Don't be a smart ass and say, "What are you doing here then?")
But I must admit. This site gave me the link that got me hooked on EVE.
I can pwn if I want to, I can leave my pants behind...
From 3 minutes of Google searching...
Ryzom - says "unofficial player news" yet it is posted on the front page and stored in the News Archives.
http://www.ryzom.com/news/archive/2006/12/06/ryzom-in-run-off-voting-on-mmorpg-com-awards
SpellBorn - seemed to have been originally posted on the forums by a member, later placed on the front page by an admin.
http://www.tcos.com/news/?id=629
Vangard - official news, scroll down to the "December 5th 2006 - Vote Vangard!" entry.
http://www.vanguardsoh.com/news.php?type=archives
Pirates of the Burning Sea - could only link to the discussion page. Poster is Flying Labs's "Community Envoy".
http://www.flyinglab.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17390
EVE Online - (can't leave this one out) the post hasn't fallen off the main page yet.
http://www.eve-online.com/
Those were just a few of the "official" posts that made it to the front page of the games' web sites. There are probably hundreds of other posts buried in official and unofficial forums and game sites.