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General: 2006 Reader's Choice Award Results

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  • Dark_ShikariDark_Shikari Member Posts: 18
    Originally posted by Teleboas

    Originally posted by Dark_Shikari


    They stopped linking to fansites that have ads, yet they left up this one that had the voting?
    Seems to me EvE has this "strict policy" just to try to make themselves look good.  When it comes down to it, they ignore their own rules to get a little publicity.  Nice.
    What do you mean?  I don't see any ISK-selling ads.



    If I turn off Flashblock, I see one WoW gold-selling ad.



    If MMORPG.com had "BUY CHEAP ISK FROM CHINESE MACRO MINER" ads plastered all over it, CCP would probably not link to it, no.



    Nice try.  Just because it has a picture of WOW characters on the banner, doesn't mean it doesn't sell EvE currency.

    Clicking on the link clearly shows that they do.  Of course a banner is going to show WoW pics.  It is the MMO with the largest playerbase.

    The day when an ad with orcs anc clerics "caters to EVE players" is the day I will quit EVE



    I don't think anyone except you gives a sh**, and since you don't play EVE and clearly don't seem to be open-minded to trying it out, it doesn't really matter does it?
  • TeleboasTeleboas Member UncommonPosts: 184
    Originally posted by Dark_Shikari

    Originally posted by Teleboas

    Originally posted by Dark_Shikari


    They stopped linking to fansites that have ads, yet they left up this one that had the voting?
    Seems to me EvE has this "strict policy" just to try to make themselves look good.  When it comes down to it, they ignore their own rules to get a little publicity.  Nice.
    What do you mean?  I don't see any ISK-selling ads.



    If I turn off Flashblock, I see one WoW gold-selling ad.



    If MMORPG.com had "BUY CHEAP ISK FROM CHINESE MACRO MINER" ads plastered all over it, CCP would probably not link to it, no.



    Nice try.  Just because it has a picture of WOW characters on the banner, doesn't mean it doesn't sell EvE currency.

    Clicking on the link clearly shows that they do.  Of course a banner is going to show WoW pics.  It is the MMO with the largest playerbase.

    The day when an ad with orcs anc clerics "caters to EVE players" is the day I will quit EVE



    I don't think anyone except you gives a sh**.



    Of course its catering to EvE players.  Everyone knows that those sites sell for every game, not just the one they show on their ad.

    And the "I don't think anyone except you gives a sh**." line just proves my point.  EvE won because they allow the posting of sites that link to gold selling sites.  All of the other games don't.

    Edit : And no, I don't care if EvE allows gold sellers or not.  The point is, EvE allowed the links to stay up, other games didn't because of the gold selling site links here.  Which is why EvE won, not because they have a more "dedicated fanbase".

  • AndricAndric Member UncommonPosts: 5

    expected results from a joke of a poll

     

  • DarkeOneDarkeOne Member Posts: 36
    When I first came to this site, almost a year ago, I was surpirsed to see EVE as being the highest rank. EVE isn't a bad game, in fact its a good one. It's learning curve and detail made quite a few folks shy away for the more popular MMOG's.



    Now I see another year of voting and EVE wins across the board ? For PvE even? Sorry EVE players, but the poll obvious has been skewed. If it was posted on their forums to come and vote here then hands down it wins the 'Dedicated Community' award.  And for as many people as I see on these boards bash EQ2 and WoW, how can you possibly argue with the success they games have displayed? WoW alone is a monster with a foothold in popular culture next to the original 'Evercrack' and 'The Sims'. Good PR alone doesn't cut it. Where is written that EVE boats more profit and players than the other MMO's mentioned? Some numbers you can debate but an active player base you can't.



    Now I don't know if the staff of MMORPG.com  are EVE fanatics, CCP sponsored or the unoffical home of EVE players and SWG NGE haters. What I do know is that ratings are reviews are pretty skewed here and creditability for this site dropped quite a few notches;Not just in my book but a slew of others as well (and they're not 'fanbois'  of non EVE games either). The response to the awards illusrate that.



    Note to Staff: You might want to revaluate your metrics before your reputation takes any more hits.

    D

  • TeleboasTeleboas Member UncommonPosts: 184
    Originally posted by DarkeOne

    When I first came to this site, almost a year ago, I was surpirsed to see EVE as being the highest rank. EVE isn't a bad game, in fact its a good one. It's learning curve and detail made quite a few folks shy away for the more popular MMOG's.



    Now I see another year of voting and EVE wins across the board ? For PvE even? Sorry EVE players, but the poll obvious has been skewed. If it was posted on their forums to come and vote here then hands down it wins the 'Dedicated Community' award.  And for as many people as I see on these boards bash EQ2 and WoW, how can you possibly argue with the success they games have displayed? WoW alone is a monster with a foothold in popular culture next to the original 'Evercrack' and 'The Sims'. Good PR alone doesn't cut it. Where is written that EVE boats more profit and players than the other MMO's mentioned? Some numbers you can debate but an active player base you can't.



    Now I don't know if the staff of MMORPG.com  are EVE fanatics, CCP sponsored or the unoffical home of EVE players and SWG NGE haters. What I do know is that ratings are reviews are pretty skewed here and creditability for this site dropped quite a few notches;Not just in my book but a slew of others as well (and they're not 'fanbois'  of non EVE games either). The response to the awards illusrate that.



    Note to Staff: You might want to revaluate your metrics before your reputation takes any more hits.

    I don't know if you've noticed before, but the staff here doesn't much care about their reputation.  People have complained about things like this until they're blue in the face.  Look how many people complained about the gold selling links.  They're worried about profit, not about how people think of them.

    As long as they give away free stuff every month, people will continue to come here.  Hell, that's why 90% of the people hang around at the site.

  • Dark_ShikariDark_Shikari Member Posts: 18
    Originally posted by Teleboas

    Originally posted by DarkeOne

    When I first came to this site, almost a year ago, I was surpirsed to see EVE as being the highest rank. EVE isn't a bad game, in fact its a good one. It's learning curve and detail made quite a few folks shy away for the more popular MMOG's.



    Now I see another year of voting and EVE wins across the board ? For PvE even? Sorry EVE players, but the poll obvious has been skewed. If it was posted on their forums to come and vote here then hands down it wins the 'Dedicated Community' award.  And for as many people as I see on these boards bash EQ2 and WoW, how can you possibly argue with the success they games have displayed? WoW alone is a monster with a foothold in popular culture next to the original 'Evercrack' and 'The Sims'. Good PR alone doesn't cut it. Where is written that EVE boats more profit and players than the other MMO's mentioned? Some numbers you can debate but an active player base you can't.



    Now I don't know if the staff of MMORPG.com  are EVE fanatics, CCP sponsored or the unoffical home of EVE players and SWG NGE haters. What I do know is that ratings are reviews are pretty skewed here and creditability for this site dropped quite a few notches;Not just in my book but a slew of others as well (and they're not 'fanbois'  of non EVE games either). The response to the awards illusrate that.



    Note to Staff: You might want to revaluate your metrics before your reputation takes any more hits.

    I don't know if you've noticed before, but the staff here doesn't much care about their reputation.  People have complained about things like this until they're blue in the face.  Look how many people complained about the gold selling links.  They're worried about profit, not about how people think of them.

    As long as they give away free stuff every month, people will continue to come here.  Hell, that's why 90% of the people hang around at the site.

    That's probably true.



    The problem is that without a good reason to stick around, people will not stick around on a global MMORPG-related discussion forum because all that will happen is fanboys from various groups who refuse to even try other games will spend all day flamewarring each other.



    Why can't people understand that you're allowed to like more than one game?



    I play EVE.  I liked Anarchy Online.  I was a big fan of Earth and Beyond.  I still play Shattered Galaxy.  I sometimes play DDO, its not half-bad.
  • SteakpuncherSteakpuncher Member Posts: 255
    I find it odd that people are complainign about the PvE result, which EvE can probably scrape by in. What about the "best storyline"? Whats the fucking sotryline in EvE? its a sandbox MMORPG with a slight background about how some people ended up in space, the rest of it is a player driven trading and PvPfest.



    There isn't a storyline to EvE, so it shouldn't have won that at all.
  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378

    Congrats to CCP and EVE for having the most dedicated fans in gamingdom. It's a great game and, while funny to read, all you people whining about skewed results and bad polls just blame the universe. No matter how you make it, EVE fans are dedicated enough to vote for their game and will win if their game is in the running.

    Don't hate the player or the game. Just don't hate!

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  • delateurdelateur Member Posts: 156

    It's a shame they run polls like this that don't really reflect the actual opinions of the MMORPG community, as a whole. Don't get me wrong, I do think Eve is one of the best online games out there, and has a lot of things going for it (and I would probably even concede it has the best graphics, which it won). However, if I were looking for enjoyment in other categories, I'd pretty much have gone with CoX across the board over Eve. That's not to say that other games might not have beat CoX, for instance, I can see Guild Wars winning for the best story, as the entire game is instanced and moves forward through huge instanced missions.

    Anyway, really all I'm sad about is that a poll like this doesn't better represent what is actually out there currently. Still, it's not like people who play MMOGs don't know who the real winners (or at least strong contesters) are, right?

  • qbangy32qbangy32 Member Posts: 681

    Hehe had to laugh at the results of these awards, perhaps next year they should add in a new catergory for most contrived votes.

     

     

     

  • flakesflakes Member Posts: 575

    What a big bunch of crybabies do i see here.Every pollhas it's ups and downs.And every timeyou'll have people complaining it isn't fair because this or because of that.

    I have played a lot of mmorpgsthe latest  years  :Asherons call2, shadowbane, starwars galaxies, city of heroes, world of warcraft,Everquest 2,Planetside and eve online.I can understand that certain people would find another game more appealing for the best pve game or best pvp gameinstead of eve online but to say it has a poor pve part is just rediculous.

    Off all the games that i have played eve online for me is the only game in wich the "full package" feels like one.I never had the feeling it lacked any pve or pvp because it all was combined so beautifull that it felt like one and the same thing.Same goes for the eve online forums , the only forums i found that really are a part of the game not just to chat about the game or put your complaints but it really makes the game the fullpackage it is.

    Of most here who complain and say bout how unfair this voting has been i say to you it is unfair how you critisize a community/game wich you obviously don't know yourself all too well.And yes from most posters here you can see immediatly that they have never played the game or just did the trial and quit cause it was too hard or not for their liking.

    Taste is a personal thing and i can understand that people disagree with certain aspects BUT eve online is a verry good mmorpg and i for one find it a verry fair result that it is chosen as the best overall game , regardless of wich of the aspects it should or should not have won.I have stoppedplaying eve for about 4 months now but i still haven't found any game that satisfies as much as eve, my hopes for next year lie on pirates of the burning sea, but we'll see what that's gonna be like.

  • DarkeOneDarkeOne Member Posts: 36
    Originally posted by Teleboas

    Originally posted by DarkeOne

    When I first came to this site, almost a year ago, I was surpirsed to see EVE as being the highest rank. EVE isn't a bad game, in fact its a good one. It's learning curve and detail made quite a few folks shy away for the more popular MMOG's.



    Now I see another year of voting and EVE wins across the board ? For PvE even? Sorry EVE players, but the poll obvious has been skewed. If it was posted on their forums to come and vote here then hands down it wins the 'Dedicated Community' award.  And for as many people as I see on these boards bash EQ2 and WoW, how can you possibly argue with the success they games have displayed? WoW alone is a monster with a foothold in popular culture next to the original 'Evercrack' and 'The Sims'. Good PR alone doesn't cut it. Where is written that EVE boats more profit and players than the other MMO's mentioned? Some numbers you can debate but an active player base you can't.



    Now I don't know if the staff of MMORPG.com  are EVE fanatics, CCP sponsored or the unoffical home of EVE players and SWG NGE haters. What I do know is that ratings are reviews are pretty skewed here and creditability for this site dropped quite a few notches;Not just in my book but a slew of others as well (and they're not 'fanbois'  of non EVE games either). The response to the awards illusrate that.



    Note to Staff: You might want to revaluate your metrics before your reputation takes any more hits.

    I don't know if you've noticed before, but the staff here doesn't much care about their reputation.  People have complained about things like this until they're blue in the face.  Look how many people complained about the gold selling links.  They're worried about profit, not about how people think of them.

    As long as they give away free stuff every month, people will continue to come here.  Hell, that's why 90% of the people hang around at the site.

    And here I thought (hoped?) that  it was geared toward proffesionalism and the betterment of  MMOG games as a whole . Silly me what was I thinking? Time to look elsewhere I guess.

    D

  • DarkeOneDarkeOne Member Posts: 36
    Originally posted by flakes


    What a big bunch of crybabies do i see here.Every pollhas it's ups and downs.And every timeyou'll have people complaining it isn't fair because this or because of that.
    I have played a lot of mmorpgsthe latest  years  :Asherons call2, shadowbane, starwars galaxies, city of heroes, world of warcraft,Everquest 2,Planetside and eve online.I can understand that certain people would find another game more appealing for the best pve game or best pvp gameinstead of eve online but to say it has a poor pve part is just rediculous.
    Off all the games that i have played eve online for me is the only game in wich the "full package" feels like one.I never had the feeling it lacked any pve or pvp because it all was combined so beautifull that it felt like one and the same thing.Same goes for the eve online forums , the only forums i found that really are a part of the game not just to chat about the game or put your complaints but it really makes the game the fullpackage it is.
    Of most here who complain and say bout how unfair this voting has been i say to you it is unfair how you critisize a community/game wich you obviously don't know yourself all too well.And yes from most posters here you can see immediatly that they have never played the game or just did the trial and quit cause it was too hard or not for their liking.
    Taste is a personal thing and i can understand that people disagree with certain aspects BUT eve online is a verry good mmorpg and i for one find it a verry fair result that it is chosen as the best overall game , regardless of wich of the aspects it should or should not have won.I have stoppedplaying eve for about 4 months now but i still haven't found any game that satisfies as much as eve, my hopes for next year lie on pirates of the burning sea, but we'll see what that's gonna be like.
      I'd think you'll find alot of people here have played/still play EVE. The majority here thinks EVE is a good game. And while the 'fanboi's' get upset that their game wasn't picked, the moderates and fair minded get upset because of the lack of honesty and balance 'on the playing field'.  Everybody has preferences and different taste but everybody is enittled to a fair content/poll/what have you.



    And spare us the crybaby comments and the feeble attempts to put yourself above the rest by verbally stepping on people's backs. If you can't respect another's opinon don't be surrpised when someone tells you to take your comment and stick it up your arse


    D

  • rdrpappyrdrpappy Member Posts: 325

    The results of the poll are an indicator of the voting demographic. To their credit the folks at Eve are trying to promote their game and mmorpg.com is a venue to do just that.

    I'm pretty sure Blizzard is happy with their tv commercials, refferences, parody shows and 7 million subscribers.

    Congratulations Eve

  • CelestianCelestian Member UncommonPosts: 1,136
    Talk about killing what little credibility mmorpg.com had.
  • flakesflakes Member Posts: 575
    Originally posted by DarkeOne

    Originally posted by flakes


    What a big bunch of crybabies do i see here.Every pollhas it's ups and downs.And every timeyou'll have people complaining it isn't fair because this or because of that.
    I have played a lot of mmorpgsthe latest  years  :Asherons call2, shadowbane, starwars galaxies, city of heroes, world of warcraft,Everquest 2,Planetside and eve online.I can understand that certain people would find another game more appealing for the best pve game or best pvp gameinstead of eve online but to say it has a poor pve part is just rediculous.
    Off all the games that i have played eve online for me is the only game in wich the "full package" feels like one.I never had the feeling it lacked any pve or pvp because it all was combined so beautifull that it felt like one and the same thing.Same goes for the eve online forums , the only forums i found that really are a part of the game not just to chat about the game or put your complaints but it really makes the game the fullpackage it is.
    Of most here who complain and say bout how unfair this voting has been i say to you it is unfair how you critisize a community/game wich you obviously don't know yourself all too well.And yes from most posters here you can see immediatly that they have never played the game or just did the trial and quit cause it was too hard or not for their liking.
    Taste is a personal thing and i can understand that people disagree with certain aspects BUT eve online is a verry good mmorpg and i for one find it a verry fair result that it is chosen as the best overall game , regardless of wich of the aspects it should or should not have won.I have stoppedplaying eve for about 4 months now but i still haven't found any game that satisfies as much as eve, my hopes for next year lie on pirates of the burning sea, but we'll see what that's gonna be like.
      I'd think you'll find alot of people here have played/still play EVE. The majority here thinks EVE is a good game. And while the 'fanboi's' get upset that their game wasn't picked, the moderates and fair minded get upset because of the lack of honesty and balance 'on the playing field'.  Everybody has preferences and different taste but everybody is enittled to a fair content/poll/what have you.



    And spare us the crybaby comments and the feeble attempts to put yourself above the rest by verbally stepping on people's backs. If you can't respect another's opinon don't be surrpised when someone tells you to take your comment and stick it up your arse




    If you would read carefully you would see that what i am trying to say is just that.My comments are meant against the people that smacktalk eve and it's community right down with the obvious reason because it is not the game they would like to see best .Again WHENyou read my post : quote: I for one find it a verry fair result that it is chosen for overall game , regardless of wich aspects it should or should not have won.Asyou can see i clearlyspoke about what i myself thought best and clearlymentioned that i can understand if others have another thought.So don't say i step on people's backs caus i obviously didnt.

    First say i step on people's backs then telling me to stick it up the arse.......well go ahead if you wanna lower the "discussion" like that , homey don't play that way...

  • nomadiannomadian Member Posts: 3,490

    haha Eve Online winning everything. Though perhaps more surprising than that was Age of Conan coming 4th in the hype category behind Warhammer, Vanguard and Star Trek Online?! I guess EvE fans must have voted for that.

  • njdevi66njdevi66 Member UncommonPosts: 216
    See what so many people seem to forget is that EVE is a living breathing world, its not a game. This is why it is the best MMO out right now. Games like WOW and others that have you kill-loot and repeat is a game, its not a living breathing world. When you play EVE its almost like living out in space, living life as a space pilot of ships, making money, mining, pirate hunting , crafting ships and other mods. SWG had this once, where it was a living breathing World, not its just a game like the others and this is why games like this will lose.





    Look bob, i just killed a bear and it gave me a sword and gold, games like this are just that, so unrealistc its pathetic. Ill go live in a world where i can do anything i want to do, be what i want to be in a space world, this is why EVE won.



    The sooner you people understand this, the better it is on yourself and you wont come crying here b/c your game lost in some poll to a living breathing Universe  called EVE.

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  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Member RarePosts: 4,006

    Just shows you the sad state of the industry if the worlds only MMOSS (Massively Multiplayer Online Screensaver) takes home the gold.

    EVE isn't a bad game, and I actually enjoyed it for the 5 months I played it...that is until the real time skill system finally took it's toll on me.

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  • BronxChuloBronxChulo Member Posts: 166

     

    Originally posted by Stradden

    I'd like to take a second to reply here.



    I just wanted to remind everyone that there was a nomination round of voting in which members were able to vote for virtually any game on our list, in any category. The criteria to make it through nominations and onto the final ballot were that the game had to get at least 10% of the nomination vote. As it turned out, in a bunch of categories, it was just WoW and EVE that met the criteria. At that point, we were unable to change the rules (can't change it half way through).



    Next year, we will look at re-vamping the system into something different.



    I'd like to remind people that it is now obvious that the staff at MMORPG didn't bother to look into all the new accounts being created just for the purpose of voting.

    I bet if you started this over, only allowed people that have been a member for more than 1 month, we would see a completly different outcome.  The fact that anyone can just sign up and vote is kinda dumb.  I mean there are people out there who will sit there and make like 100 accounts just because they have nothing better to do.

    Sadly, I'm starting to lose faith in the votes and reviews of this site.

  • MinscMinsc Member UncommonPosts: 1,353
    Originally posted by Atomicide

    I find it odd that people are complainign about the PvE result, which EvE can probably scrape by in. What about the "best storyline"? Whats the fucking sotryline in EvE? its a sandbox MMORPG with a slight background about how some people ended up in space, the rest of it is a player driven trading and PvPfest.



    There isn't a storyline to EvE, so it shouldn't have won that at all.
    There's more backstory to EVE than there is to WoW or the Warcraft series, and better too. The Real story in the game though is being constantly written by the players in their every day interactions. If you don't think that Alliance politics and intrigue is better storyline than any dev could hope to write them I'm sorry TeeVee has killed your sense of imagination.
  • TaeraTaera Community ManagerMember CommonPosts: 1,078
    Originally posted by nomadian


    haha Eve Online winning everything. Though perhaps more surprising than that was Age of Conan coming 4th in the hype category behind Warhammer, Vanguard and Star Trek Online?! I guess EvE fans must have voted for that.



    Age of Conan had awesome plastic swords at E3!!!

     

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    Community Manager
    MMORPG.com

  • Beatnik59Beatnik59 Member UncommonPosts: 2,413
    Originally posted by Minsc

    Originally posted by Atomicide

    I find it odd that people are complainign about the PvE result, which EvE can probably scrape by in. What about the "best storyline"? Whats the fucking sotryline in EvE? its a sandbox MMORPG with a slight background about how some people ended up in space, the rest of it is a player driven trading and PvPfest.



    There isn't a storyline to EvE, so it shouldn't have won that at all.
    There's more backstory to EVE than there is to WoW or the Warcraft series, and better too. The Real story in the game though is being constantly written by the players in their every day interactions. If you don't think that Alliance politics and intrigue is better storyline than any dev could hope to write them I'm sorry TeeVee has killed your sense of imagination.



    I have seen twink clan #1 versus twink clan #2 in Counterstrike, and Command and Conquer.  Yet ot would be a stretch to call two clans saying "I am more ub0r" any sort of story for mature people.

    That's all this "alliance politics" and "player written story" is all about in EVE, and if that's the best story there, then I'd have to say Counterstrike has a better background story.

    ...At least you can outfit your clan with custom skins there.

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  • alindirasalindiras Member Posts: 9

    Totaly non significant result.

    We were warned about this vote on official forum of Eq2 very lately to vote for graphics. We never heard officialy about  other categories for vote... so no chance to vote about pve or other things.

    Now when I read that eve online won on best graphics against Eq2 I found this totally unrealistic.

    Eq2 has the best graphics of all mmorpg I have tried. Eve online graphics are only stars, and stars and stars and some nebula... it is uncomparable with the huge amount of detail each single object of eq2 bring inside its textures.

    (sorry if my english seems a little bit strange, english is not my native language)

     

     

  • SteakpuncherSteakpuncher Member Posts: 255
    Originally posted by Minsc

    Originally posted by Atomicide

    I find it odd that people are complainign about the PvE result, which EvE can probably scrape by in. What about the "best storyline"? Whats the fucking sotryline in EvE? its a sandbox MMORPG with a slight background about how some people ended up in space, the rest of it is a player driven trading and PvPfest.



    There isn't a storyline to EvE, so it shouldn't have won that at all.
    There's more backstory to EVE than there is to WoW or the Warcraft series, and better too. The Real story in the game though is being constantly written by the players in their every day interactions. If you don't think that Alliance politics and intrigue is better storyline than any dev could hope to write them I'm sorry TeeVee has killed your sense of imagination.

    The same can be said about any game though. There are player dirven, and Developer written storylines, even WoW will have its competeing guilds etc. Lineage2 has its seige warfare and politics. The storyline award was quite obviously supposed to be based on the best written storyline.



    I think most people know as well as I do, that if there were undetected errors and EvE slipped into the "best newcomer" and "best upcomming release" categories, that it would have won them as well.



    There's a lot of posting from EvE fans and others that people should stop whinging because EvE is better then WoW and the best game won etc etc. Fair enough, I dont like either game, but everyone on here knows as well as I do, that if an equal % of the playerbase of both games voted, then WoW would have hammered EvE, and you could bet your ass most of the people saying "stop crying" would be on the receiving end of the same comment.
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