And regarding all the flaming thats how it's done in EvE.... The world is a shitty place get used to it.
Never! as soon as the gnomes build a space rocket WoW and EvE shall meet on the battle field, 100,000 players Vs 7,000,000 my $ on wow
We have titans that deal 60000 in damage to all targets in 300km range, no Warr can tank that
beside I have 1600mm armor on dont see your sword getting through.
My $ would be one EvE... Its easy our mages will polly all of you, then our warlocks with chain fear you all while the rest of us DPS you and warriors sue sunder armour. Shouldn't take long. Hehe sure thing and then you wipe and try again eh? And wipe and try again and then the raid leader gets pissed of because the priests are messsing up their healing priorities and everyone Hearthstones back to Stormwind/Ironforge.
But thats all besides the point.
WoW is about instant gratification, you get a level within ten minutes as a new playing in WoW and in 1 hour your lvl 10, you get instant gratification all the way until lvl 60. People that try EvE and expect the same thing will not like it, if is about long term plans and goals, dont like it then fine. We dont need people that want instant gratification in EvE all they do is fill the forums with whinage in more than one form.
400 people working together for 4 months to build one ship and at the same time fighting wars and skirmishes with neighbours and keeping supplies going for everyone, thats why I love EvE.
And keep in mind when you die ten times in your next pvp session in WoW, imagine you would loose one item permanenttly each time you die. Then imagine flying a ship that took you 6 months to get on the road and your ganked and you loose everything you worked so hard for.. Thats why I love EvE everything matters.
Death matters in EvE, in WoW it only means a slight gold cost, a walk or waiting for a Rez.
And regarding all the flaming thats how it's done in EvE.... The world is a shitty place get used to it.
Never! as soon as the gnomes build a space rocket WoW and EvE shall meet on the battle field, 100,000 players Vs 7,000,000 my $ on wow
We have titans that deal 60000 in damage to all targets in 300km range, no Warr can tank that
beside I have 1600mm armor on dont see your sword getting through.
My $ would be one EvE...Its easy our mages will polly all of you, then our warlocks with chain fear you all while the rest of us DPS you and warriors sue sunder armour. Shouldn't take long.
The problem is the Nukes in EVE aren't just damage spells, they're *actual* nuclear weapons. Besides, everyone knows magic doesn't work in space.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Why do these EvE posts always drag WoW into the fight, why do EvE players have to try and drag WoW down, sounds more like envay than hate to me.
The OP, who is not an EVE player, was the first one to drag WoW into the debate. Can't really blame the EVE players for following up on that, can you? But yeah, a fair share of people love to bash on WoW in general. My own educated guess (or maybe not so educated) is that it's not really WoW that these people are so much against, it's what WoW did to the MMO genre in general. I would probably still be playing SWG today had it not been for the NGE which I'm willing to be money on was inspired by WoW's success.
To all EvE players, you are not superior to others who play WoW, EQ or any other MMO, its just you like EvE while others dont.
True, but you could say the same thing about WoW, EQ and other MMO players as well. There's always this group of fanbois in any MMO that claim their MMO and the people that play their MMO to be superior to all other MMOs. Just take a look in the various Vanguard forums if you need an example .
As to 30,000 online, so that 30,000 on screen right? no that 30,000 on linked servers who can chat.. thats not hard to do, blizz have added a similar systems caled XRealms where players from upto 10 realms can PvP so id say thats more than 30,000. I wanna see a screen of 120+ EVE players on screen at the same time. I'll make a snap of that in WoW the next time our guild raid Orgrimmer.
Oh please. We all know that no MMO can handle 30000 on screen. Even if it could, the PCs connected would implode . Be realistic, that's a really lame argument . Oh, and if all the players on a WoW server gathers in one area, it too implodes, so it's not like WoW is any better .
Funny thing is, battlefields and the horrible honor system (which is now gone to my knowledge, haven't tried it in a while) kinda solved the problem of large raids crashing the server by killing off world PvP and the whole cross realm thing was just a fix to the complaints from people waiting in queues for hours. It absolutely cannot compare with the single server concept that EVE uses.
Let me put it in another way, can your actions on server X affect player Y on server Z? Only if server Z happens to be in the same cross realm server pool as server X and you happen to meet player Y in a battlefield. In EVE it's not just 30000 linked by chat. It's 30000 linked by actions. You don't have to meet people face to face in EVE in order to affect their virtual lives, sometimes even in a HUGE way.
WoW is a casual game EvE is a Hardcore game comparing them is complety stupid. And FYI there are kids in EvE too just WoW has 6,900,000 more players than EvE so we probably get a few more kids than EvE.
I think it's completely stupid to say that EVE is hardcore and WoW is casual . Yeah, sounds harsh, but listen to where I'm coming from. You can play both games both ways. EVE just seems more hardcore because it has a very steep learning curve and is completely unforgiving to those who make even small mistakes whereas my 11 year nephew learned the ins and outs of WoW almost as quickly as I did and now plays it just as well as I do... and if he dies... it's 5 min of his time lost.
Some people enjoy the steep learning curve, the severe penalty for failure and/or the high risk vs. high reward game play that EVE offers. Does that make them more hardcore than the top tuned min-maxed WoW raid guild that is always the first on the server to kill whatever new boss Blizzard comes up with? Is the guy who plays WoW for an hour or two some five days a week more casual than the guy who plays EVE for the same amount of time?
Consider this - by saying EVE is hardcore, you're really just feeding the EVE player superiority complex that you're complaining about
I keep wanting to try EvE but then read posts like this, ill w8 till EvE players mature a bit. "yeah well we dont want noobs like you, go play your cartoon game ans talk to 6 year olds" there I said it for you do no need to reply.
That comment isn't overly mature either ya know , but I blame it on the fact that even "the best" fall victim to the troll syndrome. I've seen people in various guilds that I've been in be really cool in-game and total asshats or drama queens when posting on forums. What I'm trying to say is, don't let what's being said here affect whether you're going to try it or not. Just do it. Chat with people in-game. Do some stuff. If you don't like it, move on and learn from the experience. Before leaving though... can I have your stuff?
I'm a big ol' fluffy carewolf. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Eve an Wow are two totally different games. I enjoy them both and pay to play both.
Yes Eve is hard without alot of support from the community, the thing is. The community is there and they will help you tremendously, especially when you get in a good corp. Try any of the ASCN corps, they are all good people working on a common goal which is to win Eve. How do you win a mmorpg? Buy taking control of the universe, that is Ascn's primary objective. It's a huge goal, one that may never happen , but it is there.
I love the simplicity of Wow, although the more you learn about Wow the more complicated it gets. Wow is fun from the start, it gets more conveluted as you rise up in the ranks.
The two games are polar opposites yet they are both true MMo's, unlike many of the new games that just came out or are on the horizon.
They are both great games and both worth they mony and time spent.
Play them both and enjoy two different aspects of mmo's.
Okay, I just about did not reply to this post do to poster being less than open minded and mature and some in the community being just as bad. For those who wish to know there are 2 very different styles of play to these games... very very different.
First Eve, It is a game based more on strategy, brains, planning and engaging in pvp in large organized warfar across a very large galaxy. It requires a large commitment to the game and to your mates who need you to be ready at a moments notice to help out. The learning curve is intense and the game play gets more intense in pvp and setup. There is politics, it has a player run market and a seamless character evolution chart. Not a game for kids or for people with A.D.D ,It is a mature game only.
WOW is a game you do not get lost in, It is directed at all age groups and in doing so making it for a less engrossing enviroment. Yes it is fun for some, It requires you are only looking to point and click and that you do not need to really plan to much. This is a game that allows you to log in for small amounts of time and not miss anything. You can log in hack, slash and maim without a worry in the world.
My prefrence ? As a adult I enjoy the WOW style of play form time to time but find the community lacking in the mature department do to the fact that more kids play than 20 + people. I also find that the game is to simple with to many limits on character and enviroment. For instance I left WOW and EVE for 1 month while away on work. I logged back into WOW and guess what nothing changed still the same kid like figure looking back at me and the entire WOW world was the same. What to point at and kill with the same sword everyone else had???boring??. I logged back into eve and found that not only had my alliance lost a entire cluster of stars (HOME) but we moved to a space and enviroment I had not seen in 2 years of play. Not only that I also found that my ship setup no longer could hold out in pvp or be as usefull as it was. Why? because the eve player world evolved into a new style of fighting each other over turf. I also got a calm easy going enviroment in EVE on arrival. NOT "man you suck noob, go back to town and hide you loser before you get OMFGBBQ'd". I personally am glad that stupid people struggle to understand EVE, It makes us smart people enjoy are free time more. Thanks for not understanding I and the rest of EVE enjoy your lack of presence in EVE.
Haha, a battle between EvE and WoW fans in real time?
Well, it would look as this:
LAG...LAG...LAG...LAG...LAG...LAG,
All EvE members are now offline, as the last man standing is actually a gnome, WoW wins.
Wouldn't be much battle or anything at all...Nothing you can do...7 millions lagging you...that is pretty much like if a raid of 400 players is against 1 target...you will lag and disconnect, the fact you somehow kill 40 of them while been disconnected is irrelevant, as eventually they lag you totally off.
EvE would be zerged, hardcore zerged if such a thing is possible, I mean hardcore and zerg in the same sentence! (Vampire smile)
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Its easy our mages will polly all of you, then our warlocks with chain fear you all while the rest of us DPS you and warriors sue sunder armour. Shouldn't take long.
This is assuming you can get in range since the average battleship can cover 1.5-2 football fields in a second and properly setup ceptors doing 6000-8000 mph and sniper boats poping you at 100+ miles away. anyway this debate is silly on to the only thing i really wanted to say
to the poster i was wondering why you think eve isnot acually a roleplaying game... technicaly i could argue that NONE of the games on this site are roleplaying as 90% of their playerbase do not engage in roleplaying... and most dont know what true roleplaying is for that matter but thats another topic
Haha, a battle between EvE and WoW fans in real time?
Well, it would look as this:
LAG...LAG...LAG...LAG...LAG...LAG,
All EvE members are now offline, as the last man standing is actually a gnome, WoW wins.
Wouldn't be much battle or anything at all...Nothing you can do...7 millions lagging you...that is pretty much like if a raid of 400 players is against 1 target...you will lag and disconnect, the fact you somehow kill 40 of them while been disconnected is irrelevant, as eventually they lag you totally off.
EvE would be zerged, hardcore zerged if such a thing is possible, I mean hardcore and zerg in the same sentence! (Vampire smile)
You know, that makes me think about the fact that WoW shouldn't even be called an MMO, never mind an MMORPG!
The day before Patch 2.0 a lot of people from our Realm decided to raid Ironforge, we had around 100 people with 3 raid groups (2 full, and the other not even half full). Off we went to "kill the IF King" and as soon as we got there it was non-stop lag, not FPS lag but Server lag. Instant Cast Skills took at least 30 seconds to cast and i didn't even get to see the damn King!
After about 10 minutes everyone in every raid got disconnected from the Server and couldn't log back in for a good 5 minutes. Call that an MMO!? Pfft, i've seen more players on BFPoo.
Eve Online won tons of awards off this site. It's voted as the best MMORPG off this site. Yet this MMORPG has never had more than 130,000 subscribers worldwide. I tried it myself and simply hated it. It should not even belong to a site with the letters "RPG" written in it! It's not a MMO(RPG). It's a MMOG. A scifi space strategy/action massive multiplayer game.
That's why it always made me wonder. how much is that company paying you guys, www.mmorpg.com to boost their game, make it look like it's the best MMOG out there, when games like World of Warcraft's population keeps increasing and will soon reach 8 million players in just 2 weeks with the 1st expansion. With games like Lineage II still dominating the asian MMORPG market with over 1 million players.
And here you have some multiplayer scifi space strategy/action game that somehow manages to get on the top of on a webpage dedicated to Massive Multiplayer Online ROLE PLAYING GAMES.
So admit it, mmorpg.com. How much are they paying you to make sure Eve Online stays on the top to attract customers? It's funny how it works though. Many times I see people write: "OMG WoW SUCKS!!!! I'm gonna go play Eve Online, I heard it was awesome" ... then not even a few days later, they are back in WoW saying how much Eve Online sucked.
Because you don't like a game, means no one else does either? That makes total sense!
And to say EVE isn't an MMOG is just ignorance, and they have over 150k subs. Please know wtf you're talking about before you open your bloated mouth. Go back to the kiddies in WOW.
It is obvious that EVE is not for you. If WOW is better than eve because it has 7000000 subscribers (which i never saw online together) then Asia is better continent than Europe because she has more population.
If WOW is a kick ass game then why did you try EVE? To prove that it sucks? I don't even think of leaving EVE. If you just tried the 14 day trial then i am sure that you have missed the vital points of this Virtual universe. CCP should give at least 2 months free trial and this is ccp's biggest mistake among others which don't fit in this post to discuss.
Actually EVE has a true PVP system compaired to WOW which is actually an arcade online game since every part of WOW's PVP is a monkey jumping up and down experience.
Oh sure eve does not have avatars and enviroment attractive to all people but this is what it is. Different and unique. If you like every online game to be like wow there are at least 10 of them around.
Perhaps We should pay mmorpg.com to stop receiving money from EVE or UO.But I don't remember mmorpg.com sending me money to vote for EVE.
EVE has a very nive community (if you want to be a part of it) from friendly people to bloodthirsty pirates (that's role play) awaiting for carebears to prove once more that it is as close to reality as it can get. If you like to feel safe don't play eve.
EVE-Online has over 200,000 subscribers now and in percentages alot larger growth rate then wow. The new server record recently hit 35k online at once i think also.
btw i think i posted this in this thread before ages back cant remember so if its repeat plz excuse me
So can i see the screen shot of 120+ EvE players on screen? or not?
Take a look at eve-online.com - in the video section look up the great northern war. Dunno if you can still find it, but the CA/SA war had some pretty big battles. Largest I can remember was 150 vs 150 (with the lag being surprisingly good, there was a time in '04 where large-scale fleet battles weren't anywhere near as laggy as today).
That's why it always made me wonder. how much is that company paying you guys, www.mmorpg.com to boost their game, make it look like it's the best MMOG out there, when games like World of Warcraft's population keeps increasing and will soon reach 8 million players in just 2 weeks with the 1st expansion.
/Signed.
I'm not supporting the OP's other views in this post b/c I don't care for either game. But my curiosity has always been peeked by this. I'm sure Eve is a well made game but there also seems to be a lot more Bias with regards to it and those who run this Site. I think it hurts their credibility and the fact that not one single MMORPG.com staffer has stepped into deny this is even more Suspect. I think the Correlations are practically Irrefutable at this point so that might be WHY. ...Either way they'd have to admit SOME kind of bias behind it, whether Payola or just Rabid Fanboyism.
Just what benefit does EVE receive from this site that is not enjoyed by other games? If EVE in fact were paying off MMORPG one thing I would expect to see is an abundance of EVE ads, and that is not the case. There are far more Anarchy Online and Industry player ads than EVE. I also might expect to see more EVE articles than others, but I see far more DnD and LoTR articles than EVE, so that can't be it.
So, I give up! How is EVE being treated in any way differently than the other games represented on this site?
Okay iller, I'll bite. Just what benefit does EVE receive from this site that is not enjoyed by other games? If EVE in fact were paying off MMORPG one thing I would expect to see is an abundance of EVE ads, and that is not the case. There are far more Anarchy Online and Industry player ads than EVE. I also might expect to see more EVE articles than others, but I see far more DnD and LoTR articles than EVE, so that can't be it. So, I give up! How is EVE being treated in any way differently than the other games represented on this site?
That's a very good point actually. If you look at the forums here you'll see that there's a lot of threads asking where to get a free trial, if in fact this website was being paid off by CCP, surely there would be lots and lots of EVE ads. But, there isn't, the ads are as random as any other.
This was the climatic battle that my alliance, Firmus Ixion (FIX), fought to save it's outpost from a massive attack by the Against all Authorities Alliance (AAA). Local was over 200 many times during that two day fight.
I have got 2 characters that I play in Eve Amarr and Gallente. They will never fly another ship other than there race ship as that is why I chose those races.
To say there is no Role Playing in Eve is rubbish. An example is as follows.
My corp and I were mining in Low sec space. We are mainly Amarr with a couple of other races but not too many. There is a reason but this is not the place to go into it. We were jumped by a "fleet" and they destroyed all ships except mine. Why? Because I was Amrr and so were they. They were on a quest to get their space back from the Empire and killed everyone not Amarr. Since I had no guns when they attacked us I never fired back and they killed all Amarr's who fired on them because they believed that they had strayed from the path.
So, I give up! How is EVE being treated in any way differently than the other games represented on this site?
Lol, beats me. I mean other than Ratings/Score right? But hey, that's all it takes to "cook up" an advantage. ...And maybe a few reviews that are just too good to be true.
I have got 2 characters that I play in Eve Amarr and Gallente. They will never fly another ship other than there race ship as that is why I chose those races. To say there is no Role Playing in Eve is rubbish. An example is as follows. My corp and I were mining in Low sec space. We are mainly Amarr with a couple of other races but not too many. There is a reason but this is not the place to go into it. We were jumped by a "fleet" and they destroyed all ships except mine. Why? Because I was Amrr and so were they. They were on a quest to get their space back from the Empire and killed everyone not Amarr. Since I had no guns when they attacked us I never fired back and they killed all Amarr's who fired on them because they believed that they had strayed from the path. IMHO that is Role Playing.
that is great. that is why i love EVE. roleplaying is on you. the game only gives you many many tools to do it. if someone says EVE lacks roleplaying, then he is the want that lacks roleplaying.
Whoever said I was building a federal case and needed concrete evidence? The suspicion is there, absolute proof is not a prerequisite for my opinion since nothing short of photo-evidence of them accepting a bag of money would satisfy ALL doubters(or rather, all APOLOGISTS).
Even so, One look at the Choice awards will tell you that this Staff is more than happy to misrepresent data and cook the numbers to make Eve look like it's Double-digits ahead of everything else. And when given the opportunity to deny it or better yet rectify it, they fall suspiciously silent. Shame on them
More to the point no matter WHAT they say they will look bad. It is better for them to stay silent.
BTW I do not agree that they Crooked anything. They need to remain unbaised otherwise the site will fall apart so either Eve pays them more than ALL advertising (which I doubt) or there is no substance to your claim.......and yes I do do this online Marketing stuff as a job.
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We have titans that deal 60000 in damage to all targets in 300km range, no Warr can tank that
beside I have 1600mm armor on
My $ would be one EvE... Its easy our mages will polly all of you, then our warlocks with chain fear you all while the rest of us DPS you and warriors sue sunder armour. Shouldn't take long.
But thats all besides the point.
WoW is about instant gratification, you get a level within ten minutes as a new playing in WoW and in 1 hour your lvl 10, you get instant gratification all the way until lvl 60. People that try EvE and expect the same thing will not like it, if is about long term plans and goals, dont like it then fine. We dont need people that want instant gratification in EvE all they do is fill the forums with whinage in more than one form.
400 people working together for 4 months to build one ship and at the same time fighting wars and skirmishes with neighbours and keeping supplies going for everyone, thats why I love EvE.
And keep in mind when you die ten times in your next pvp session in WoW, imagine you would loose one item permanenttly each time you die. Then imagine flying a ship that took you 6 months to get on the road and your ganked and you loose everything you worked so hard for.. Thats why I love EvE everything matters.
Death matters in EvE, in WoW it only means a slight gold cost, a walk or waiting for a Rez.
We have titans that deal 60000 in damage to all targets in 300km range, no Warr can tank that
beside I have 1600mm armor on
My $ would be one EvE...Its easy our mages will polly all of you, then our warlocks with chain fear you all while the rest of us DPS you and warriors sue sunder armour. Shouldn't take long.
The problem is the Nukes in EVE aren't just damage spells, they're *actual* nuclear weapons. Besides, everyone knows magic doesn't work in space.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
I'm a big ol' fluffy carewolf. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
OMG they have built a space rocket... http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/images/screenshots/ss163.jpg just have to w8 10 days till expansion.
Try to fear a torpedo sometime.
P.S. That spaceship is adorable. How many sets of legos did it take?
Eve an Wow are two totally different games. I enjoy them both and pay to play both.
Yes Eve is hard without alot of support from the community, the thing is. The community is there and they will help you tremendously, especially when you get in a good corp. Try any of the ASCN corps, they are all good people working on a common goal which is to win Eve. How do you win a mmorpg? Buy taking control of the universe, that is Ascn's primary objective. It's a huge goal, one that may never happen , but it is there.
I love the simplicity of Wow, although the more you learn about Wow the more complicated it gets. Wow is fun from the start, it gets more conveluted as you rise up in the ranks.
The two games are polar opposites yet they are both true MMo's, unlike many of the new games that just came out or are on the horizon.
They are both great games and both worth they mony and time spent.
Play them both and enjoy two different aspects of mmo's.
Okay, I just about did not reply to this post do to poster being less than open minded and mature and some in the community being just as bad. For those who wish to know there are 2 very different styles of play to these games... very very different.
First Eve, It is a game based more on strategy, brains, planning and engaging in pvp in large organized warfar across a very large galaxy. It requires a large commitment to the game and to your mates who need you to be ready at a moments notice to help out. The learning curve is intense and the game play gets more intense in pvp and setup. There is politics, it has a player run market and a seamless character evolution chart. Not a game for kids or for people with A.D.D ,It is a mature game only.
WOW is a game you do not get lost in, It is directed at all age groups and in doing so making it for a less engrossing enviroment. Yes it is fun for some, It requires you are only looking to point and click and that you do not need to really plan to much. This is a game that allows you to log in for small amounts of time and not miss anything. You can log in hack, slash and maim without a worry in the world.
My prefrence ? As a adult I enjoy the WOW style of play form time to time but find the community lacking in the mature department do to the fact that more kids play than 20 + people. I also find that the game is to simple with to many limits on character and enviroment. For instance I left WOW and EVE for 1 month while away on work. I logged back into WOW and guess what nothing changed still the same kid like figure looking back at me and the entire WOW world was the same. What to point at and kill with the same sword everyone else had???boring??. I logged back into eve and found that not only had my alliance lost a entire cluster of stars (HOME) but we moved to a space and enviroment I had not seen in 2 years of play. Not only that I also found that my ship setup no longer could hold out in pvp or be as usefull as it was. Why? because the eve player world evolved into a new style of fighting each other over turf. I also got a calm easy going enviroment in EVE on arrival. NOT "man you suck noob, go back to town and hide you loser before you get OMFGBBQ'd". I personally am glad that stupid people struggle to understand EVE, It makes us smart people enjoy are free time more. Thanks for not understanding I and the rest of EVE enjoy your lack of presence in EVE.
Haha, a battle between EvE and WoW fans in real time?
Well, it would look as this:
LAG...LAG...LAG...LAG...LAG...LAG,
All EvE members are now offline, as the last man standing is actually a gnome, WoW wins.
Wouldn't be much battle or anything at all...Nothing you can do...7 millions lagging you...that is pretty much like if a raid of 400 players is against 1 target...you will lag and disconnect, the fact you somehow kill 40 of them while been disconnected is irrelevant, as eventually they lag you totally off.
EvE would be zerged, hardcore zerged if such a thing is possible, I mean hardcore and zerg in the same sentence!
(Vampire smile)
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
to the poster i was wondering why you think eve isnot acually a roleplaying game... technicaly i could argue that NONE of the games on this site are roleplaying as 90% of their playerbase do not engage in roleplaying... and most dont know what true roleplaying is for that matter but thats another topic
You know, that makes me think about the fact that WoW shouldn't even be called an MMO, never mind an MMORPG!
The day before Patch 2.0 a lot of people from our Realm decided to raid Ironforge, we had around 100 people with 3 raid groups (2 full, and the other not even half full). Off we went to "kill the IF King" and as soon as we got there it was non-stop lag, not FPS lag but Server lag. Instant Cast Skills took at least 30 seconds to cast and i didn't even get to see the damn King!
After about 10 minutes everyone in every raid got disconnected from the Server and couldn't log back in for a good 5 minutes. Call that an MMO!? Pfft, i've seen more players on BFPoo.
-iCeh
Because you don't like a game, means no one else does either? That makes total sense!
And to say EVE isn't an MMOG is just ignorance, and they have over 150k subs. Please know wtf you're talking about before you open your bloated mouth. Go back to the kiddies in WOW.
http://www.TheGamersAssociation.com
It is obvious that EVE is not for you. If WOW is better than eve because it has 7000000 subscribers (which i never saw online together) then Asia is better continent than Europe because she has more population.
If WOW is a kick ass game then why did you try EVE? To prove that it sucks? I don't even think of leaving EVE. If you just tried the 14 day trial then i am sure that you have missed the vital points of this Virtual universe. CCP should give at least 2 months free trial and this is ccp's biggest mistake among others which don't fit in this post to discuss.
Actually EVE has a true PVP system compaired to WOW which is actually an arcade online game since every part of WOW's PVP is a monkey jumping up and down experience.
Oh sure eve does not have avatars and enviroment attractive to all people but this is what it is. Different and unique. If you like every online game to be like wow there are at least 10 of them around.
Perhaps We should pay mmorpg.com to stop receiving money from EVE or UO.But I don't remember mmorpg.com sending me money to vote for EVE.
EVE has a very nive community (if you want to be a part of it) from friendly people to bloodthirsty pirates (that's role play) awaiting for carebears to prove once more that it is as close to reality as it can get. If you like to feel safe don't play eve.
EVE-Online has over 200,000 subscribers now and in percentages alot larger growth rate then wow. The new server record recently hit 35k online at once i think also.
btw i think i posted this in this thread before ages back cant remember so if its repeat plz excuse me
Take a look at eve-online.com - in the video section look up the great northern war.
AngryAnt, Esh-something, some ship
I'm not supporting the OP's other views in this post b/c I don't care for either game. But my curiosity has always been peeked by this. I'm sure Eve is a well made game but there also seems to be a lot more Bias with regards to it and those who run this Site. I think it hurts their credibility and the fact that not one single MMORPG.com staffer has stepped into deny this is even more Suspect. I think the Correlations are practically Irrefutable at this point so that might be WHY. ...Either way they'd have to admit SOME kind of bias behind it, whether Payola or just Rabid Fanboyism.
Okay iller, I'll bite.
Just what benefit does EVE receive from this site that is not enjoyed by other games? If EVE in fact were paying off MMORPG one thing I would expect to see is an abundance of EVE ads, and that is not the case. There are far more Anarchy Online and Industry player ads than EVE. I also might expect to see more EVE articles than others, but I see far more DnD and LoTR articles than EVE, so that can't be it.
So, I give up! How is EVE being treated in any way differently than the other games represented on this site?
-iCeh
Allow me to give you better than that sir, a whole movie that in several places that if there isn't 120+ players on screen, it's very close.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/monoRAIL/monoRAIL_Ixion_Reborn.wmv
This was the climatic battle that my alliance, Firmus Ixion (FIX), fought to save it's outpost from a massive attack by the Against all Authorities Alliance (AAA). Local was over 200 many times during that two day fight.
My own write-up of that battle is here.
Anyway, hope that satisfies your curiousity.
I have got 2 characters that I play in Eve Amarr and Gallente. They will never fly another ship other than there race ship as that is why I chose those races.
To say there is no Role Playing in Eve is rubbish. An example is as follows.
My corp and I were mining in Low sec space. We are mainly Amarr with a couple of other races but not too many. There is a reason but this is not the place to go into it. We were jumped by a "fleet" and they destroyed all ships except mine. Why? Because I was Amrr and so were they. They were on a quest to get their space back from the Empire and killed everyone not Amarr. Since I had no guns when they attacked us I never fired back and they killed all Amarr's who fired on them because they believed that they had strayed from the path.
IMHO that is Role Playing.
Lol, beats me. I mean other than Ratings/Score right? But hey, that's all it takes to "cook up" an advantage. ...And maybe a few reviews that are just too good to be true.
As for Ads tho... What adds? I've got this: addons.mozilla.org/firefox/433/.
Who the hell pays attention to the ads? It's ratings and word of mouth that ppl come here for
So then, iller,
What you are saying is that you are just another of those who throws about accusations with not even a hint of supporting proof, right?
I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
*shrugs*
Even so, One look at the Choice awards will tell you that this Staff is more than happy to misrepresent data and cook the numbers to make Eve look like it's Double-digits ahead of everything else. And when given the opportunity to deny it or better yet rectify it, they fall suspiciously silent. Shame on them
More to the point no matter WHAT they say they will look bad. It is better for them to stay silent.
BTW I do not agree that they Crooked anything. They need to remain unbaised otherwise the site will fall apart so either Eve pays them more than ALL advertising (which I doubt) or there is no substance to your claim.......and yes I do do this online Marketing stuff as a job.