From what I have heard, Blizzard has taken the hint from 90% of their players who cannot/do not raid and has made most new instances 10 man or less. I've heard there are a bunch of 5 mans. Most people hate raiding by now. And even if there are some raids I doubt I will have the time or motivation to do them.
If you like WOW as it is today then yes you would be crazy to not get the expansion. However if you have been unhappy with the raid or die direction of the game don't let people fool you that much have changed. Of course there's going to be casual content but as good as 100% of that is inbedded in the leveling up content 61-70. Once you reach L70 is back to raid or die again.
actualy, yolu can eventualy get the best pvp gear as well in tbc by just playing casualy....that have given casual players the chance to eventualy do this, altho since its such a materialistic game, they will again be ran over by hardcore players who will get their stuff in a few months from hiting 70. bummer, but still a nice overturn. if you dont want to raid, you can casualpvp and save up for the gear.
this is the flow chart of the burning crusade stuff. as you see most of the instance stuff is "blue" or 5-men people and only an handful are red, or 25-people. so, it should be better than the original game.
on another side, i wonder what they are gonna do with all those super level 60 instances now that you do not need to do the molten core->black wing lair ->ahl qiraj->naxxramas progression
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
i think they will somehow be adapted to a level range, maby nerfed to 10-20 man(just a guess) and would be used well for people to get some leveling items and grind some XP. i dont think they will go obsolete.
Originally posted by Volkmar on another side, i wonder what they are gonna do with all those super level 60 instances now that you do not need to do the molten core->black wing lair ->ahl qiraj->naxxramas progression
If you like WOW as it is today then yes you would be crazy to not get the expansion. However if you have been unhappy with the raid or die direction of the game don't let people fool you that much have changed. Of course there's going to be casual content but as good as 100% of that is inbedded in the leveling up content 61-70. Once you reach L70 is back to raid or die again.
actualy, yolu can eventualy get the best pvp gear as well in tbc by just playing casualy....that have given casual players the chance to eventualy do this, altho since its such a materialistic game, they will again be ran over by hardcore players who will get their stuff in a few months from hiting 70. bummer, but still a nice overturn. if you dont want to raid, you can casualpvp and save up for the gear.
I was under the impression that the only pvp gear that comes close to raid epics will be obtained via the Arena pvp not the regular pvp grind. And to get this gear you have to be amongst the very best, which by it self isn't anything to complain about but unfortnuately gear > skill so if you don't have the gear to start off with you are not going to scare anyone in there.
Only time will tell how things develops but I hope youre right
I think my biggest problem is the game will still be based on obtaining GEAR! arg!
I enjoy quests and 5-10 man dungeons, mostly just quests... I'm not spending the money on the expansion just to be bored again in a month gear grinddddddddddd
I finally got over my addiction... I feel like I quit smoking and someones handing me a cigarette a month later.... NOOOOO I can't do it...!
Retired from WoW Rebellion - 60 Warlock || Kalaa - 60 Warrior Littlerebel - 60 Hunter || Albie - 60 Shaman Played: Erm, a lot more.
If you like WOW as it is today then yes you would be crazy to not get the expansion. However if you have been unhappy with the raid or die direction of the game don't let people fool you that much have changed. Of course there's going to be casual content but as good as 100% of that is inbedded in the leveling up content 61-70. Once you reach L70 is back to raid or die again.
actualy, yolu can eventualy get the best pvp gear as well in tbc by just playing casualy....that have given casual players the chance to eventualy do this, altho since its such a materialistic game, they will again be ran over by hardcore players who will get their stuff in a few months from hiting 70. bummer, but still a nice overturn. if you dont want to raid, you can casualpvp and save up for the gear.
I was under the impression that the only pvp gear that comes close to raid epics will be obtained via the Arena pvp not the regular pvp grind. And to get this gear you have to be amongst the very best, which by it self isn't anything to complain about but unfortnuately gear > skill so if you don't have the gear to start off with you are not going to scare anyone in there.
Only time will tell how things develops but I hope youre right
Arena Points are used as a currency in the Arena System. Instead of a gold price, Arena rewards cost a certain number of Arena Points. An important improvement over the previous reward system is that your Arena Points do not decay. You can stockpile a maximum of 5,000 Arena Points. To claim your rewards, go visit the Arena vendor in Area 52 in the Netherstorm region of Outland. You will be able to browse his goods and buy rewards if you have earned enough points.
Star Gazer go and do Yr 12. While you're there you may learn about intermittent conditioning and so be better prepared to approach MMO's in a far more casual way in your future. if you're doing your final years of high school then you're considering options for a job later in life. WoW will distract you from that and there is no two ways about it. It'll distract you and it'll distract your friends. WoW will be there a year down the track and who knows they may have actually worked out how to satisfy the monkey in a manner more conducive to having a life away from the game. May also want to consider in 12 months there'll be other games out to take a look at as well
GL with whatever you choose and hope you get everything out of your studies that you work for.
Well i'm in the beta. And i've tryed the few first dungeons in Hellfire Citadel and such. And i can tell you now much has changed. They are very interesting! For example the standard Warrior,priest,mage,rogue,pala group will be different for each instance. In The Ramparts for example you need 2 tanks to kill the last boss. Because first you fight an orc while his dragonmount breathes 1k fire on you. When he's like 20% dead his mount attacks you with 1k fire dmg AoE (just like corehounds in MC) plus it gives 800 dmg per sec "napalm" fire on the spot it attacks. So the game will be much more varied. Plus there are alot of new types of quests. For example 2man quests (group quests with reccommended player count) or bombingmissions. And that's really fun i promise you that. Plus that they will introduce alot more Lore into the game. And the gear will get harder to get. As you get tokens not from 1 instance but from many. And the heroic setting is also interesting. As the mobs will increase in basic stats (dmg, hp, mana etc.) they will also recieve new skils. So overall you will get a much more varied gameplay. And as basics it will be alot of raiding/instancing but it will defiantly feel more varied than before. It's not just the same drill. overall i will give this game 8/10 as the game is good. But i don't like the fact that you'll (maybe) have to kill Illidan. I'm his biggest fan nr. 1! ILLIDAN MUST NOT DIE!!!!
Star Gazer go and do Yr 12. While you're there you may learn about intermittent conditioning and so be better prepared to approach MMO's in a far more casual way in your future. if you're doing your final years of high school then you're considering options for a job later in life. WoW will distract you from that and there is no two ways about it. It'll distract you and it'll distract your friends. WoW will be there a year down the track and who knows they may have actually worked out how to satisfy the monkey in a manner more conducive to having a life away from the game. May also want to consider in 12 months there'll be other games out to take a look at as well
GL with whatever you choose and hope you get everything out of your studies that you work for.
Thanks for the advice. I am already more than ready to have a new approach to WoW my second time around. I know I will not have even close to as much time I had to play back two years ago, and I am willing to accept that. I think it will be more enjoyable if I'm not playing every waking minute. I have to put my studies first because I need to keep my marks up for university. However I know that playing will not interfere with my marks because I have done so before without any effect.
I've learned a few things since my WoW bout. First off all, RL is more important than any video game can ever be. I would much rather go out with friends than play a video game by myself.
There are a few reasons I'm going to try and stay away from the new Burning Crusade Expansion...
No rogue class for Draenei... I don't want to have to play some stupid Blood Elf Character that looks similar to something thats already been in the game since the beginning just to play my favorite class.
No lock on loot method selection upon entering an instance... A guy posted above about some token system... What is that all about I've never seen anything like that in game before...
2 of the new areas will probably start in the continents that we've already been playing in.
Not sure why we are charged such a high monthly fee... Theres so many servers anyways we arent all playing in 1 server or at least given the option to switch servers for free.
From the beginning they said they were going to add content that even this expansion won't add.
And such a high price tag for an expansion even EQ2's expansions aren't that expensive or FEAR Extraction Point for that matter. Feels like they are a very greedy company charging more than the norm for expansions or the whole setup of the game and the different servers is flawed in a way that it costs alot for maintenance and no time for extra content every month.
Part of me though wants to try it just to see the new environments but I have to keep reminding myself about those things to save cash. Hopefully I'll win the Ebgames give away otherwise its going to be a tough decision. If the expansion comes with 30 days I might try it.
There are a few reasons I'm going to try and stay away from the new Burning Crusade Expansion...
No rogue class for Draenei... I don't want to have to play some stupid Blood Elf Character that looks similar to something thats already been in the game since the beginning just to play my favorite class. No lock on loot method selection upon entering an instance... A guy posted above about some token system... What is that all about I've never seen anything like that in game before... 2 of the new areas will probably start in the continents that we've already been playing in. Not sure why we are charged such a high monthly fee... Theres so many servers anyways we arent all playing in 1 server or at least given the option to switch servers for free. From the beginning they said they were going to add content that even this expansion won't add. And such a high price tag for an expansion even EQ2's expansions aren't that expensive or FEAR Extraction Point for that matter. Feels like they are a very greedy company charging more than the norm for expansions or the whole setup of the game and the different servers is flawed in a way that it costs alot for maintenance and no time for extra content every month.
Part of me though wants to try it just to see the new environments but I have to keep reminding myself about those things to save cash. Hopefully I'll win the Ebgames give away otherwise its going to be a tough decision. If the expansion comes with 30 days I might try it.
1.I'm also disappointed Draenei cannot be rogues. I am planning on starting a Draenei character and I really wanted to make a rogue so I just don't know now. Not interested in priest, already have a mage and shaman, so that leaves hunter, paladin or warrior. Have tried a warrior and don't like it too much, and I'm not sure about a hunter or pally. Anyways I'll decide sometime.
3. The new areas for the new races are on the current continents I believe (I could easily be wrong). However the areas are until level 20 which should be nice. Not to mention the horde might actually be getting a NICE major city which will be awesome. Orgrimmar is so ugly it's painful.
4. I agree, the monthly fee is ridiculous. $19.50 Canadian. However I am willing to pay it so long as I am kept entertained. I won't be as generous with renewing my subscription as I was the first time around.
5.Yup, we were promised hero classes at launch, here we are 2 years later with nothing. No new classes at all which I'm still pissed at.
6.Don't think the expansion is too much, around 40 bucks isn't it?
By the way, anyone know if the Draenei have a big city like the Bloodelves?
current lvl 60 content is 7 5mans, and all the new dungeons since DM have been raid zones. What makes anyone think that after you complete those 10 new lvl 70 5 mans there will be anything more than more 25 man raid zones added after that?
I think it's going to be level to 70 quick and then raid or die again. If Caverns of Time, or whatever 25man is the best of that list, is just the new MC, then they'll just have a new BWL, new ZG, new AQ after that, 2 years from now maybe they'll have another expansion with lvl 80 5 mans but like 4 more 25 man zones will have been put in that 2 years.
I'm not going to bother doing the expansion when it's going to be the same crap at lvl 70 and probably the same lack of crafting after the lvl 70 arcanite reaper gets replaced by something that drops in some raid. There's no reason to believe that they will do anything different than what they've been doing up to this point.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You? if I were to kill a titan tomorrow and no CCP employees showed up to say grats I would petition it. Waiting for: the next MMO that lets me make this macro if hp < 30 then CastSpell("heal") SpellTargetUnit("player") else CastSpell("smite") end
I must say Blizzard is pretty damn smart. They have found a cycle that keeps all players interested in the game that requires a lot of time and subscription money. I'm not saying that Blizzard is money hungry and ruthless but rather very talented in the MMORPG field.
They know that content is key. And players always want something new. In WoW's case it's new zones and dungeons. Instead of risking developing a new system or something innovative they stick with the safe route of making dungeon after dungeon and new loot.
I have a lot of friends who play WoW that are stuck in this "cycle" without even realizing it. They get so excited when new dungeons come out and new armor/weapons. When they see a new 1h sword that hits 70 dps all of their excitement in WoW is renewed.
Burning Crusade is the same thing. It's all eye candy. New races, zones, dungeons, loot, etc. But in the end its the same crap that they have been doing the past two years. It's nothing more then when the patch for AQ20 and AQ40 came out, except this time its like 4 patches combined to satisfy the eager mouths of WoW fans for only 30 dollars.
I am in TBC beta and have made a blood elf and explored some of the outlands. BE and Dranei get two zones each to take them to about level 20, thats it. Outlands is 6 or so zones to take you to 70 and have some arenas/dungeons inside of them. To me TBC is nothing new.
I just want to know who in there right mind came up with 40 man raid instances. It's pretty hard to get 40 real people to play any internet or lan based game at the same time in the same server without any one of the people leaving and someone else joining. Even 25 is ridiculous... to me about 10-15 give or take a few and i mean a few not 5.
From what I hear it will take a few months at the least to level from 60-70. My favourite part of the game was levelling from 1-59, and the new zones look excellent so that should be fun.
I really wish blizzard would implement some new system so the focus is not ONLY on getting good gear. People should be able to get prestige in other ways and advance their characters differently. They don't seem to be aware of any other way which is a big disappointment.
Every MMORPG is a cycle in a way. If you've ever played EVE Online, which I have trialed about 6 or 7 times, it is excellent but gets repetitive extremely quickly. I could spend much more time playing WoW than I could EVE, simply because in EVE I would just end up exploring and not advancing my character.
I'm going to give the expansion a chance. If it does not keep my interest for long, so be it.
I'm getting the expansion. It may be more of the same, but I like WoW so that works. FRom what I've seen and heard (2 very good friends are in the beta) it will be the usual fun, solid gameplay experience.
ok, i appolgize if someone has said this but i dont have it in me atm to read out all the responses to this.
I've played on and off since launch, have full t2 rogue and a few other 60's i screw around on... my major gripe with what they're doing is that now level 62-65green gear is going to be surpassing full t2 sets. Its really quite disturbing... how much time do you spend in a raid waiting and building up DKP for that one peice to drop... you fight someone else for the peice, use up your dkp for it... and rinse repeat. Now green items in 2 levels from raid level will be better then BWL gear?? Hell its better then the AQ40 gear. greens are more common, easily found and can be solo'd. I have to be honest here... i'm pissed about the lack of content and the lack of respect to the people who've spent so much time in raids trying to further their toons... not only that but there is NO new content outside of races and an area... races are NOT hard to skin... there is NO creativity involved.
The entire reason the dev team said that they decided to let the alliance have shamis and the horde have pali's is because they were too hard to "balance" the two factions. They had a full article write up on it (if i can find it i'll post it) and basically said that they were lazy and didnt want to waste the time on balancing it.
The lies and lack of updates are no where near as bad as a few other companies ($OE and EA), and overall their updates are pretty frequent compared to other companies... but there is still no creativity involved since original launch outside of some quest and a few chain completions... but even thats lacking... like ravenholdt with the dead end other then a quest or two in silithis... every toon you'll create will go through the same stuff as any other... so yeah. my opinion.
"And after blizzard takes over the world, they are gonna gather a bunch of lemmings, sit on their fat asses near a cliff, and watch the little fuzzy bastards suicide dive into the ground below. . . . . all just for their own entertainment."
Sunrider are you planning on getting the expansion then?
Anyways I agree with what you said about allowing alliance to have shaman and horde paladins. Blizzard is having an extremely troublesome time balancing the classes, and they are too lazy to keep them separate and continue to attempt to balance paladins with shamans. I think it's a mistake, because it was something that made each side unique. It's also the same reason they aren't adding any new classes anytime soon. They can't balance the current ones. Now I haven't played in well over a year so I'm not sure what the state of balance is right now, but from what I hear warriors suck again and warlocks own. Not sure about the rest.
Their patching takes forever. Two months at the least. When they do make promises, which is extremely rare, they don't meet them. It took over 5 months for the patch with the honour system, which sucked, and it came a full month after they had promised.
I'm interested to know what they are planning on adding with content patches after the expansion.
ok, i appolgize if someone has said this but i dont have it in me atm to read out all the responses to this. I've played on and off since launch, have full t2 rogue and a few other 60's i screw around on... my major gripe with what they're doing is that now level 62-65green gear is going to be surpassing full t2 sets. Its really quite disturbing... how much time do you spend in a raid waiting and building up DKP for that one peice to drop... you fight someone else for the peice, use up your dkp for it... and rinse repeat. Now green items in 2 levels from raid level will be better then BWL gear?? Hell its better then the AQ40 gear. greens are more common, easily found and can be solo'd. I have to be honest here... i'm pissed about the lack of content and the lack of respect to the people who've spent so much time in raids trying to further their toons... not only that but there is NO new content outside of races and an area... races are NOT hard to skin... there is NO creativity involved. The entire reason the dev team said that they decided to let the alliance have shamis and the horde have pali's is because they were too hard to "balance" the two factions. They had a full article write up on it (if i can find it i'll post it) and basically said that they were lazy and didnt want to waste the time on balancing it. The lies and lack of updates are no where near as bad as a few other companies ($OE and EA), and overall their updates are pretty frequent compared to other companies... but there is still no creativity involved since original launch outside of some quest and a few chain completions... but even thats lacking... like ravenholdt with the dead end other then a quest or two in silithis... every toon you'll create will go through the same stuff as any other... so yeah. my opinion.
I think you are totally right about the Pala/Shaman thing, really weak by Blizz. And its kinda lame that 62/64 greens are gonna be better then T2 and other High-End instance loots. From what i have heard you're supposed to be able to 'solo' more of Outlands with the Tier and Epic gear, and that's it unsolable with full blue. That's just what i have heard though. That may please all you High-Ender's a little, but not enough of course. Anyways about the Paladins and Shamans, It's really bad, I wanted to be unique as a Horde Shaman, I'll say it again, Weak by Blizzard!. And i think you shoud atleast try BC out.
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this is the flow chart of the burning crusade stuff. as you see most of the instance stuff is "blue" or 5-men people and only an handful are red, or 25-people. so, it should be better than the original game.
on another side, i wonder what they are gonna do with all those super level 60 instances now that you do not need to do the molten core->black wing lair ->ahl qiraj->naxxramas progression
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
i think they will somehow be adapted to a level range, maby nerfed to 10-20 man(just a guess) and would be used well for people to get some leveling items and grind some XP. i dont think they will go obsolete.
I was under the impression that the only pvp gear that comes close to raid epics will be obtained via the Arena pvp not the regular pvp grind. And to get this gear you have to be amongst the very best, which by it self isn't anything to complain about but unfortnuately gear > skill so if you don't have the gear to start off with you are not going to scare anyone in there.
Only time will tell how things develops but I hope youre right
I enjoy quests and 5-10 man dungeons, mostly just quests... I'm not spending the money on the expansion just to be bored again in a month
I finally got over my addiction... I feel like I quit smoking and someones handing me a cigarette a month later.... NOOOOO I can't do it...!
Retired from WoW
Rebellion - 60 Warlock || Kalaa - 60 Warrior
Littlerebel - 60 Hunter || Albie - 60 Shaman
Played: Erm, a lot more.
I was under the impression that the only pvp gear that comes close to raid epics will be obtained via the Arena pvp not the regular pvp grind. And to get this gear you have to be amongst the very best, which by it self isn't anything to complain about but unfortnuately gear > skill so if you don't have the gear to start off with you are not going to scare anyone in there.
Only time will tell how things develops but I hope youre right
Arena Points are used as a currency in the Arena System. Instead of a gold price, Arena rewards cost a certain number of Arena Points. An important improvement over the previous reward system is that your Arena Points do not decay. You can stockpile a maximum of 5,000 Arena Points. To claim your rewards, go visit the Arena vendor in Area 52 in the Netherstorm region of Outland. You will be able to browse his goods and buy rewards if you have earned enough points.GL with whatever you choose and hope you get everything out of your studies that you work for.
Well i'm in the beta. And i've tryed the few first dungeons in Hellfire Citadel and such. And i can tell you now much has changed. They are very interesting! For example the standard Warrior,priest,mage,rogue,pala group will be different for each instance. In The Ramparts for example you need 2 tanks to kill the last boss. Because first you fight an orc while his dragonmount breathes 1k fire on you. When he's like 20% dead his mount attacks you with 1k fire dmg AoE (just like corehounds in MC) plus it gives 800 dmg per sec "napalm" fire on the spot it attacks. So the game will be much more varied. Plus there are alot of new types of quests. For example 2man quests (group quests with reccommended player count) or bombingmissions. And that's really fun i promise you that. Plus that they will introduce alot more Lore into the game. And the gear will get harder to get. As you get tokens not from 1 instance but from many. And the heroic setting is also interesting. As the mobs will increase in basic stats (dmg, hp, mana etc.) they will also recieve new skils. So overall you will get a much more varied gameplay. And as basics it will be alot of raiding/instancing but it will defiantly feel more varied than before. It's not just the same drill. overall i will give this game 8/10 as the game is good. But i don't like the fact that you'll (maybe) have to kill Illidan. I'm his biggest fan nr. 1! ILLIDAN MUST NOT DIE!!!!
I've learned a few things since my WoW bout. First off all, RL is more important than any video game can ever be. I would much rather go out with friends than play a video game by myself.
5 mans instances:
Hellfire Citadel - Ramparts - Level 60-62
Hellfire Citadel - Blood Furnace - Level 61-63
Coilfang Reservoir - The Slave Pens - Level 62-64
Coilfang Reservoir - The Underbog - Level 63-65
Auchindoun - The Mana Tombs - Level 64-66
Auchindoun - Auchenai Crypts - Level 65-67
Caverns of Time - Escape from Durnholde - Level 66-68
Auchindoun - Sethekk Halls - Level 67-69
Coilfang Reservoir - The Steam Vault - Level 68-70
Hellfire Citadel - The Shattered Halls - Level 70
Caverns of Time - Opening the Dark Portal - Level 70
Tempest Keep - The Mechanar - Level 69-70
Tempest Keep - The Botanica - Level 70
Auchindoun - The Shadow Labyrinth - Level 70
Tempset Keep - The Arcatraz - Level 70
(A quick note: Most 5-mans are short, 1h or 1h30 runs)
10 mans instances:
Karazhan - Level 70
25 mans instances:
Blade's Edge Mountains - Gruul's Lair - Level 70
Hellfire Citadel - Magtheridon's Lair - Level 70
Coilfang Reservoir - Serpentshrine Cavern - Level 70
Tempest Keep - The Eye - Level 70
Caverns of Time - Battle for Mount Hyjal - Level 70
P.S. FFXI was the one that "deleted" accounts after 3 months inactivity. They later rescinded that restriction.
There are a few reasons I'm going to try and stay away from the new Burning Crusade Expansion...
Part of me though wants to try it just to see the new environments but I have to keep reminding myself about those things to save cash. Hopefully I'll win the Ebgames give away otherwise its going to be a tough decision. If the expansion comes with 30 days I might try it.
3. The new areas for the new races are on the current continents I believe (I could easily be wrong). However the areas are until level 20 which should be nice. Not to mention the horde might actually be getting a NICE major city which will be awesome. Orgrimmar is so ugly it's painful.
4. I agree, the monthly fee is ridiculous. $19.50 Canadian. However I am willing to pay it so long as I am kept entertained. I won't be as generous with renewing my subscription as I was the first time around.
5.Yup, we were promised hero classes at launch, here we are 2 years later with nothing. No new classes at all which I'm still pissed at.
6.Don't think the expansion is too much, around 40 bucks isn't it?
By the way, anyone know if the Draenei have a big city like the Bloodelves?
I think it's going to be level to 70 quick and then raid or die again. If Caverns of Time, or whatever 25man is the best of that list, is just the new MC, then they'll just have a new BWL, new ZG, new AQ after that, 2 years from now maybe they'll have another expansion with lvl 80 5 mans but like 4 more 25 man zones will have been put in that 2 years.
I'm not going to bother doing the expansion when it's going to be the same crap at lvl 70 and probably the same lack of crafting after the lvl 70 arcanite reaper gets replaced by something that drops in some raid. There's no reason to believe that they will do anything different than what they've been doing up to this point.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
if I were to kill a titan tomorrow and no CCP employees showed up to say grats I would petition it.
Waiting for: the next MMO that lets me make this macro
if hp < 30 then CastSpell("heal") SpellTargetUnit("player") else CastSpell("smite") end
They know that content is key. And players always want something new. In WoW's case it's new zones and dungeons. Instead of risking developing a new system or something innovative they stick with the safe route of making dungeon after dungeon and new loot.
I have a lot of friends who play WoW that are stuck in this "cycle" without even realizing it. They get so excited when new dungeons come out and new armor/weapons. When they see a new 1h sword that hits 70 dps all of their excitement in WoW is renewed.
Burning Crusade is the same thing. It's all eye candy. New races, zones, dungeons, loot, etc. But in the end its the same crap that they have been doing the past two years. It's nothing more then when the patch for AQ20 and AQ40 came out, except this time its like 4 patches combined to satisfy the eager mouths of WoW fans for only 30 dollars.
I am in TBC beta and have made a blood elf and explored some of the outlands. BE and Dranei get two zones each to take them to about level 20, thats it. Outlands is 6 or so zones to take you to 70 and have some arenas/dungeons inside of them. To me TBC is nothing new.
I really wish blizzard would implement some new system so the focus is not ONLY on getting good gear. People should be able to get prestige in other ways and advance their characters differently. They don't seem to be aware of any other way which is a big disappointment.
Every MMORPG is a cycle in a way. If you've ever played EVE Online, which I have trialed about 6 or 7 times, it is excellent but gets repetitive extremely quickly. I could spend much more time playing WoW than I could EVE, simply because in EVE I would just end up exploring and not advancing my character.
I'm going to give the expansion a chance. If it does not keep my interest for long, so be it.
WoW-Whyppet 70 Gnome Warlock
WoW-Tarnya 70 Human Paladin
WoW-Snaekolf 65 Dwarf Hunter
EVE-Lucious Malfouy Caldari
EVE-Cyrak Anguin Amarr
ok, i appolgize if someone has said this but i dont have it in me atm to read out all the responses to this.
I've played on and off since launch, have full t2 rogue and a few other 60's i screw around on... my major gripe with what they're doing is that now level 62-65green gear is going to be surpassing full t2 sets. Its really quite disturbing... how much time do you spend in a raid waiting and building up DKP for that one peice to drop... you fight someone else for the peice, use up your dkp for it... and rinse repeat. Now green items in 2 levels from raid level will be better then BWL gear?? Hell its better then the AQ40 gear. greens are more common, easily found and can be solo'd. I have to be honest here... i'm pissed about the lack of content and the lack of respect to the people who've spent so much time in raids trying to further their toons... not only that but there is NO new content outside of races and an area... races are NOT hard to skin... there is NO creativity involved.
The entire reason the dev team said that they decided to let the alliance have shamis and the horde have pali's is because they were too hard to "balance" the two factions. They had a full article write up on it (if i can find it i'll post it) and basically said that they were lazy and didnt want to waste the time on balancing it.
The lies and lack of updates are no where near as bad as a few other companies ($OE and EA), and overall their updates are pretty frequent compared to other companies... but there is still no creativity involved since original launch outside of some quest and a few chain completions... but even thats lacking... like ravenholdt with the dead end other then a quest or two in silithis... every toon you'll create will go through the same stuff as any other... so yeah. my opinion.
"And after blizzard takes over the world, they are gonna gather a bunch of lemmings, sit on their fat asses near a cliff, and watch the little fuzzy bastards suicide dive into the ground below. . . . . all just for their own entertainment."
Anyways I agree with what you said about allowing alliance to have shaman and horde paladins. Blizzard is having an extremely troublesome time balancing the classes, and they are too lazy to keep them separate and continue to attempt to balance paladins with shamans. I think it's a mistake, because it was something that made each side unique. It's also the same reason they aren't adding any new classes anytime soon. They can't balance the current ones. Now I haven't played in well over a year so I'm not sure what the state of balance is right now, but from what I hear warriors suck again and warlocks own. Not sure about the rest.
Their patching takes forever. Two months at the least. When they do make promises, which is extremely rare, they don't meet them. It took over 5 months for the patch with the honour system, which sucked, and it came a full month after they had promised.
I'm interested to know what they are planning on adding with content patches after the expansion.
I think you are totally right about the Pala/Shaman thing, really weak by Blizz. And its kinda lame that 62/64 greens are gonna be better then T2 and other High-End instance loots. From what i have heard you're supposed to be able to 'solo' more of Outlands with the Tier and Epic gear, and that's it unsolable with full blue. That's just what i have heard though. That may please all you High-Ender's a little, but not enough of course. Anyways about the Paladins and Shamans, It's really bad, I wanted to be unique as a Horde Shaman, I'll say it again, Weak by Blizzard!. And i think you shoud atleast try BC out.