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  • Keebs1984Keebs1984 Member Posts: 1,356
    Originally posted by MadAce

    WW3 has been raging for almost 2 decades now. It's mainly an economical war with great consequences for each country/alliance.



    Wars (the old version) are just too expensive/resouce consuming to be profitable. Remember the world is practically ruled by capitalism. No, not the free masons, jews, elvis impersonators or the roswell aliens. Just the concept/ideology.



    It's much, much more rewarding to wage war in the economic spectrum. This also causes financial losses and even more loss in lives than the cold war caused.



    At the moment we have a few sides:



    -US

    -NAFTA (not the same side as the US)

    -EU

    -China

    -India

    -Japan



    and possibly upcoming sides:



    -South-Africa

    -Brazil

    -South-America





    Losing sides:

    -US

    -NAFTA

    Japan



    stagnating side:

    -EU



    slightly winning sides:

    -China

    -India
    I agree...



    However there are still some factors that cold incite a larger war, and possibly a world war.

    Eternally mine,
    Keebs


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  • BaerfBaerf Member Posts: 72
    Originally posted by nakedone


    Americans don't have the will to fight. Too many liberals and other sissys. Europe just makes me giggle.
    I vote China.
    When the US has a war which affects its home soil - like Europe and WW1 and 2 come back and join the debate. Pearl Harbour really doesnt count, and please dont mention Sept 11th either - thats hardly anything on the same scale as WW1 and 2.



    Secondly when WW3 hits, there will be no winners. Go Go Nukes all over the world.



    Id rather be dead tbh than live in the after effects of WW3.
  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    If there ever would be a war between developed countries then there would be a lot of strikes with few forces, probably covert and with clear objectives. A war of conquest is just foolish. The objective will be to destroy the other side's economical power and their military capacity.
  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087
    Originally posted by blah40000

    japan is a very technologically advanced country they might have mechs/ mobile suits by ww3 but other countries will too and japan could use anime propaganda to control populations and spike rebellions in there favor.



    OMG i love you!!! you are so funny.

    Plese do post again.

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  • WhosFatWhosFat Member Posts: 92


    Originally posted by Baerf
    Originally posted by nakedone Americans don't have the will to fight. Too many liberals and other sissys. Europe just makes me giggle.
    I vote China.
    When the US has a war which affects its home soil - like Europe and WW1 and 2 come back and join the debate. Pearl Harbour really doesnt count, and please dont mention Sept 11th either - thats hardly anything on the same scale as WW1 and 2.

    Secondly when WW3 hits, there will be no winners. Go Go Nukes all over the world.

    Id rather be dead tbh than live in the after effects of WW3.


    That's because nobody is stupid enough to attack us face to face. They will topple us like Rome. There is nothing they can do military wise to destroy the US. We are too well defended and we just have too many weapons for anyone to ever conquer us by force.

    And even if they tried, they know that would be it........ for everyone. In our last ditch efforts to save ourselves we would probably destroy all of humanity. Nobody is that stupid.

  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    Originally posted by WhosFat


     

    Originally posted by Baerf


    Originally posted by nakedone
    Americans don't have the will to fight. Too many liberals and other sissys. Europe just makes me giggle.

    I vote China.





    When the US has a war which affects its home soil - like Europe and WW1 and 2 come back and join the debate. Pearl Harbour really doesnt count, and please dont mention Sept 11th either - thats hardly anything on the same scale as WW1 and 2.

    Secondly when WW3 hits, there will be no winners. Go Go Nukes all over the world.

    Id rather be dead tbh than live in the after effects of WW3.


    That's because nobody is stupid enough to attack us face to face. They will topple us like Rome. There is nothing they can do military wise to destroy the US. We are too well defended and we just have too many weapons for anyone to ever conquer us by force.

    And even if they tried, they know that would be it........ for everyone. In our last ditch efforts to save ourselves we would probably destroy all of humanity. Nobody is that stupid.





    As proven with Vietnam and Iraq, it's pretty hard to conquer any country. Hence why anyone attacking the US won't aim to hold the territory.



    For example they would aim to cripple the US ability of global influence... By driving US countries out of the country, to their own country. This way the investments of the enemy country benefit you. That's a few points less for the US.





    LordSlater,



    there are few technologically and military advanced countries that are not develping exo-skeletons and robotic technology. Japan is one of the countries with most progress in this field.
  • BaerfBaerf Member Posts: 72
    Originally posted by WhosFat


     

    Originally posted by Baerf


    Originally posted by nakedone
    Americans don't have the will to fight. Too many liberals and other sissys. Europe just makes me giggle.

    I vote China.





    When the US has a war which affects its home soil - like Europe and WW1 and 2 come back and join the debate. Pearl Harbour really doesnt count, and please dont mention Sept 11th either - thats hardly anything on the same scale as WW1 and 2.

    Secondly when WW3 hits, there will be no winners. Go Go Nukes all over the world.

    Id rather be dead tbh than live in the after effects of WW3.


    That's because nobody is stupid enough to attack us face to face. They will topple us like Rome. There is nothing they can do military wise to destroy the US. We are too well defended and we just have too many weapons for anyone to ever conquer us by force.

    And even if they tried, they know that would be it........ for everyone. In our last ditch efforts to save ourselves we would probably destroy all of humanity. Nobody is that stupid.

    Completely agree.



    And this status quo will last for a while. Not forever however, but a fair amount of time. I truely hope you guys dont ever reap what happened to us in Europe during WW1 and 2, but the balance doesnt take much to tip the scales. As you mentioned... Rome.... where are they now?
  • WhosFatWhosFat Member Posts: 92


    Originally posted by MadAce
    Originally posted by WhosFat

    Originally posted by Baerf

    Originally posted by nakedone
    Americans don't have the will to fight. Too many liberals and other sissys. Europe just makes me giggle.
    I vote China.
    When the US has a war which affects its home soil - like Europe and WW1 and 2 come back and join the debate. Pearl Harbour really doesnt count, and please dont mention Sept 11th either - thats hardly anything on the same scale as WW1 and 2.
    Secondly when WW3 hits, there will be no winners. Go Go Nukes all over the world.
    Id rather be dead tbh than live in the after effects of WW3.



    That's because nobody is stupid enough to attack us face to face. They will topple us like Rome. There is nothing they can do military wise to destroy the US. We are too well defended and we just have too many weapons for anyone to ever conquer us by force.
    And even if they tried, they know that would be it........ for everyone. In our last ditch efforts to save ourselves we would probably destroy all of humanity. Nobody is that stupid.


    As proven with Vietnam and Iraq, it's pretty hard to conquer any country. Hence why anyone attacking the US won't aim to hold the territory.

    For example they would aim to cripple the US ability of global influence... By driving US countries out of the country, to their own country. This way the investments of the enemy country benefit you. That's a few points less for the US.


    LordSlater,

    there are few technologically and military advanced countries that are not develping exo-skeletons and robotic technology. Japan is one of the countries with most progress in this field.


    Vietnam and Iraq don't prove anything.

    Soldiers are so bound by political ropes in both wars they are unable to fight like they need to, to actually conquer the country. They want to do it politically so it doesn't look like we are doing what we are really doing. It's bullshit.

    Both Vietnam and Iraq would have been over very quickly if we just went in, blew shit up, and said "hey, this is ours. Like it or die." just like every other conquering force has done throughout history.

  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    Rome and its society and culture affects the western culture untill this day. There have been zozens of Empires but few are as high in regard as the Roman Empire. They are certainly somewhere. Whereas I wonder if the US will be fondly (or even at all) remebered in 500 years.



    Also, the Roman Empire was in decline long before it fell. It's descent into oblivion was marked by higtened corruption, too much governmental control, pointless (lost) wars, xenophonia in general, fear of immigration, fear of other religions, decadence, obesity, arrogance towards other cultures, economical and scientific stagnation, government propaganda, ...



    Woopsy.
  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    WhosFat,



    how many countries have been permanently conquered? Please name them.



    And US military specialists know exactly how the war had to been fought. For example, if you go in to look for weapons of mass destruction... Make sure they are actually there. Always handy. Also, get some help when you go in. Next thing you should do is to supply the people you "conquer" with what they are in title to according to the convention of geneva. Such as electricity, water, medical care, security.



    And one advice from all countries who have tried to conquer another one: If there's a resistance... Talk to them. Perhaps they have valid points and you might come to an agreement.
  • WhosFatWhosFat Member Posts: 92


    Originally posted by MadAce
    WhosFat,

    how many countries have been permanently conquered? Please name them.

    And US military specialists know exactly how the war had to been fought. For example, if you go in to look for weapons of mass destruction... Make sure they are actually there. Always handy. Also, get some help when you go in. Next thing you should do is to supply the people you "conquer" with what they are in title to according to the convention of geneva. Such as electricity, water, medical care, security.

    And one advice from all countries who have tried to conquer another one: If there's a resistance... Talk to them. Perhaps they have valid points and you might come to an agreement.


    England, France, Germany, Italy, China, Mongolia, India, US, Bahamas, South Africa, Egypt, Spain, Switzerland, and thousands and thousand of islands.

    But, those are just the ones off the top of my head.

  • BaerfBaerf Member Posts: 72
    Originally posted by WhosFat


     

    Originally posted by MadAce


    Originally posted by WhosFat






    Originally posted by Baerf




    Originally posted by nakedone

    Americans don't have the will to fight. Too many liberals and other sissys. Europe just makes me giggle.

    I vote China.







    When the US has a war which affects its home soil - like Europe and WW1 and 2 come back and join the debate. Pearl Harbour really doesnt count, and please dont mention Sept 11th either - thats hardly anything on the same scale as WW1 and 2.

    Secondly when WW3 hits, there will be no winners. Go Go Nukes all over the world.

    Id rather be dead tbh than live in the after effects of WW3.

     





    That's because nobody is stupid enough to attack us face to face. They will topple us like Rome. There is nothing they can do military wise to destroy the US. We are too well defended and we just have too many weapons for anyone to ever conquer us by force.

    And even if they tried, they know that would be it........ for everyone. In our last ditch efforts to save ourselves we would probably destroy all of humanity. Nobody is that stupid.

     



    As proven with Vietnam and Iraq, it's pretty hard to conquer any country. Hence why anyone attacking the US won't aim to hold the territory.

    For example they would aim to cripple the US ability of global influence... By driving US countries out of the country, to their own country. This way the investments of the enemy country benefit you. That's a few points less for the US.



    LordSlater,

    there are few technologically and military advanced countries that are not develping exo-skeletons and robotic technology. Japan is one of the countries with most progress in this field.


    Vietnam and Iraq don't prove anything.

    Soldiers are so bound by political ropes in both wars they are unable to fight like they need to, to actually conquer the country. They want to do it politically so it doesn't look like we are doing what we are really doing. It's bullshit.

    Both Vietnam and Iraq would have been over very quickly if we just went in, blew shit up, and said "hey, this is ours. Like it or die." just like every other conquering force has done throughout history.



    Except in modern times this has proven not to work - as shown by US invasions - the "blow shit up" that is. And sorry we are in the modern times so its kinda relevant.
  • WhosFatWhosFat Member Posts: 92


    Originally posted by Baerf

    Originally posted by WhosFat




    Originally posted by MadAce


    Originally posted by WhosFat


    Originally posted by Baerf


    Originally posted by nakedone
    Americans don't have the will to fight. Too many liberals and other sissys. Europe just makes me giggle.
    I vote China.


    When the US has a war which affects its home soil - like Europe and WW1 and 2 come back and join the debate. Pearl Harbour really doesnt count, and please dont mention Sept 11th either - thats hardly anything on the same scale as WW1 and 2.
    Secondly when WW3 hits, there will be no winners. Go Go Nukes all over the world.
    Id rather be dead tbh than live in the after effects of WW3.


    That's because nobody is stupid enough to attack us face to face. They will topple us like Rome. There is nothing they can do military wise to destroy the US. We are too well defended and we just have too many weapons for anyone to ever conquer us by force.
    And even if they tried, they know that would be it........ for everyone. In our last ditch efforts to save ourselves we would probably destroy all of humanity. Nobody is that stupid.


    As proven with Vietnam and Iraq, it's pretty hard to conquer any country. Hence why anyone attacking the US won't aim to hold the territory.
    For example they would aim to cripple the US ability of global influence... By driving US countries out of the country, to their own country. This way the investments of the enemy country benefit you. That's a few points less for the US.

    LordSlater,
    there are few technologically and military advanced countries that are not develping exo-skeletons and robotic technology. Japan is one of the countries with most progress in this field.


    Vietnam and Iraq don't prove anything.
    Soldiers are so bound by political ropes in both wars they are unable to fight like they need to, to actually conquer the country. They want to do it politically so it doesn't look like we are doing what we are really doing. It's bullshit.
    Both Vietnam and Iraq would have been over very quickly if we just went in, blew shit up, and said "hey, this is ours. Like it or die." just like every other conquering force has done throughout history.


    Except in modern times this has proven not to work - as shown by US invasions - the "blow shit up" that is. And sorry we are in the modern times so its kinda relevant.

    1 Example that wasn't politically bound that wasn't conquered.

    Seems to me, Germany took most of Europe till we came in and conquered them and put our own people in power............. just like we always do.

  • Adam4408Adam4408 Member Posts: 18
    Originally posted by Ankua

    You can have all the people in the world as an army and accomplish nothing, its the will to use that force that counts.

     

    I think the chinese people ranked higher

    of there knowledge then america

  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    Originally posted by WhosFat


     

    Originally posted by MadAce

    WhosFat,
    how many countries have been permanently conquered? Please name them.
    And US military specialists know exactly how the war had to been fought. For example, if you go in to look for weapons of mass destruction... Make sure they are actually there. Always handy. Also, get some help when you go in. Next thing you should do is to supply the people you "conquer" with what they are in title to according to the convention of geneva. Such as electricity, water, medical care, security.
    And one advice from all countries who have tried to conquer another one: If there's a resistance... Talk to them. Perhaps they have valid points and you might come to an agreement.

    England, France, Germany, Italy, China, Mongolia, India, US, Bahamas, South Africa, Egypt, Spain, Switzerland, and thousands and thousand of islands.

    But, those are just the ones off the top of my head.





    Reading... Really an overrated skill?



    Permanently... Well... If I'm not mistaken England isn't part of some large Viking Empire by now. And France is still France and not part of Germany or the UK. Italy... Wouldn't know. Germany. Not part of the USSR or any other country. Still Germany.

    ...





    Face it. Conquering a country is something really, really hard. And not to mention absolutely pointless. 100% without meaning o justification. Harmful for everyone, And usually most for the invading country.
  • grenades69grenades69 Member Posts: 88
    This thread's just filled with American elitists, why does it matter which country would win WW3? Or whether America could be invaded?



    I'm sure that if every countries government decided to have a war just to satisfy the on going arguments by fat little teenagers over the Internet so that every countries military decided to go and invade every other country, not for the sake of any objectives just to see who's got the biggest m-peens (military peens) then yes, America would stand a good fucking chance of winning, as well as Japan and China etc. Congratulations, I'm sure you elitists are so happy now that you have something to be proud of as you sit at your computers making endless YTMND's about chuck norris, and you can finally forget about your countries obesity levels and your countries shit culture (which seems to consist of pointing out ethnic minorities, suing everyone and complaining about everything) because at least your army can PWN everyone else's. GG.



    Phew, I'm happy now. Thanks for that.
  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    Originally posted by grenades69

    This thread's just filled with American elitists, why does it matter which country would win WW3? Or whether America could be invaded?



    I'm sure that if every countries government decided to have a war just to satisfy the on going arguments by fat little teenagers over the Internet so that every countries military decided to go and invade every other country, not for the sake of any objectives just to see who's got the biggest m-peens (military peens) then yes, America would stand a good fucking chance of winning, as well as Japan and China etc. Congratulations, I'm sure you elitists are so happy now that you have something to be proud of as you sit at your computers making endless YTMND's about chuck norris, and you can finally forget about your countries obesity levels and your countries shit culture (which seems to consist of pointing out ethnic minorities, sewing everyone and complaining about everything) because at least your army can PWN everyone else's. GG.



    Phew, I'm happy now. Thanks for that.
    Apart from the elitist comments a pretty good point. QFT.
  • Keebs1984Keebs1984 Member Posts: 1,356
    Originally posted by WhosFat


     

    Originally posted by MadAce

    WhosFat,
    how many countries have been permanently conquered? Please name them.
    And US military specialists know exactly how the war had to been fought. For example, if you go in to look for weapons of mass destruction... Make sure they are actually there. Always handy. Also, get some help when you go in. Next thing you should do is to supply the people you "conquer" with what they are in title to according to the convention of geneva. Such as electricity, water, medical care, security.
    And one advice from all countries who have tried to conquer another one: If there's a resistance... Talk to them. Perhaps they have valid points and you might come to an agreement.

    England, France, Germany, Italy, China, Mongolia, India, US, Bahamas, South Africa, Egypt, Spain, Switzerland, and thousands and thousand of islands.

    But, those are just the ones off the top of my head.

    England, France, Germany, Italy, China, Mongolia, India, US, Bahamas, South Africa, Egypt, Spain, Switzerland are not permanently conquered...



    Each of these countries is free and govern themselves according to their own will, there is not outside source that directly controls and monitors them.



    There are islands that have been permanently conquered, however that permanently conquered bit ends as soon as it becomes established under its own government again...



    EDIT: You could say that the US permanently conquered America from the Natives, but bringing up that would be rediculous, as you could apply that same logic to every nation that exists today, and birngs the entire argument out of context. I.E. Saxons took Britain from Rome which eventually turned into G.B. as it is now etc etc...

    Eternally mine,
    Keebs


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  • Adam4408Adam4408 Member Posts: 18

    Btw here what i really think people

     

    i think we dont fight eachother

    mybe some other advanced race

    that spit lava threw there tities or forehead

    and are 1000ft tall

    and they will exterminate the human race

  • WhosFatWhosFat Member Posts: 92

    Arguing with those who know nothing of history, about history is like trying to argue with a brick wall.

    I'll just leave you with this: Vikings weren't "conquerers" and those who govern themselves are not natives.

    K. Have fun with that.

  • Keebs1984Keebs1984 Member Posts: 1,356
    Originally posted by WhosFat


    Arguing with those who know nothing of history, about history is like trying to argue with a brick wall.
    I'll just leave you with this: Vikings weren't "conquerers" and those who govern themselves are not natives.
    K. Have fun with that.
    Hmmm well I'm in my third year at college as a History/Political Science major...



    I know my shit...



    Btw who said anything about Vikings? or for that matter Natives governing themselves being considered natives at all? It wasn't me.

    Eternally mine,
    Keebs


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  • WhosFatWhosFat Member Posts: 92


    Originally posted by Keebs1984
    Originally posted by WhosFat Arguing with those who know nothing of history, about history is like trying to argue with a brick wall.
    I'll just leave you with this: Vikings weren't "conquerers" and those who govern themselves are not natives.
    K. Have fun with that.
    Hmmm well I'm in my third year at college as a History/Political Science major...

    I know my shit...

    Btw who said anything about Vikings? or for that matter Natives governing themselves being considered natives at all? It wasn't me.


    MadAce talked about the Vikings.

    If you're a history major you should know that all those countries (at least most of them) are not governed by their native peoples. The native peoples were either wiped out or forced to move. I'm not a History Major but I'm a huge history buff.

  • Keebs1984Keebs1984 Member Posts: 1,356
    Originally posted by WhosFat


     

    Originally posted by Keebs1984


    Originally posted by WhosFat
     
    Arguing with those who know nothing of history, about history is like trying to argue with a brick wall.

    I'll just leave you with this: Vikings weren't "conquerers" and those who govern themselves are not natives.

    K. Have fun with that.



    Hmmm well I'm in my third year at college as a History/Political Science major...

     

    I know my shit...

    Btw who said anything about Vikings? or for that matter Natives governing themselves being considered natives at all? It wasn't me.


     

    MadAce talked about the Vikings.

    If you're a history major you should know that all those countries (at least most of them) are not governed by their native peoples. The native peoples were either wiped out or forced to move. I'm not a History Major but I'm a huge history buff.


    I know that, but I also made it clear that I wasn't counting those as being "permanently conquered" as we are currently using it in this thread. From what I can tell people are using the term in this thread to mean: one nation or established country gaining dominance over a different nation or established country and governing it themselves. Much like the Spain/Philipino agreement and subsequently the U.S./Philipino [lack of an] agreement.

    Eternally mine,
    Keebs


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  • HebrewBombHebrewBomb Member UncommonPosts: 520
    The point of entry for those who plan to set a foothold in this debate is the layman's work with 144 sealed letters.



    As who comes victorious in the End, it will be the "Stone, cast without Hand" which will destroy the image from top to bottom.

    Last of which will be scattered into molten clay and iron amongst pile of fine gold, silver and bronze.
  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918

    I'm an American Elitist asshole, so whatever side America is on wins the war.

     

    Seriously though, this thread is retawded.

     

     

     

     

     

    and yes, it's spelled like that on purpose.

     

    WOOSH.

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

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