I played WoW on and off since the open beta. (Currently on my 2nd hiatus) In both of my long runs the same thing happened... I leveled a character or 3 to 60... got in a raiding guild, completed an instance (MC the first run, BWL the 2nd) and burned out on the raiding. I abhor faction grinding or running the same instance over and over to complete gear sets. Just before BC came out I decided I'd had enough of WoW. I had a lot of good times while I was there...but still havent figured out how to enjoy it once I reached end game.
But, back to the OP's experience, you never gave it a fair chance. Level 10 on a Pally isn't a fair trial.. you should have gone for a Mage or Warlock maybe. Pallys really do just autoswing...with an occasion judgement or blessing tossed in. Probabaly one of the easier and less interesting classes the game offers. And you really won't get a feel for how any class plays until at least level 20...and level 30 would be better. I've played every class in the game to the mid 20's/30's and have a 60 Mage, Priest, Pally, Druid and Warlock.
It is true though, most people solo level, the game is designed (as are most others) to penalize group play unless you are running epic quests with their beefed up npc's to kill.
Speaking of people, I met some very cool people in Wow...more than offsetting the ass-hats that were there. You need to be patient though....at level 10 you'll be lucky to be in a decent guild... it usually takes some hard work to find a good one.
I've moved on now... playing DAOC and Vanguard... but I still have fond memories of my time in WoW... and know for many people, WoW is all the MMORPG they'll ever need. Doesn't make them less competent or intelligent for their choice, just means WoW provides them the gaming experience they want and need. Other games will come out for the rest of us.
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log into one of the medium capacity RP servers with another unimportant name. Remake my paladin and skip the damn human movie again. by the way I love the pajamas paladins start with And the starting clothes are so much cooler with all the other games Autoattack , next ... Auto Attack , next ... AutoAttack, next ... AutoAttack, next. how exciting! And attacking in this game is different from other games how?
well I ding i say to myself well maybe now i will get skills that will make combat pretty exciting ... 10 levels later ... Autoattack, next ... autoattack, next .... autoattack, next ... autoattack, next ................ great at least i can buff. I buff you and you and you and you. Once again . . . it is different than game "X" how?
Boring classes Classes are the same as any other fantasy game
Boring Customization
Boring combat Combat is the same as with most other MMORPG's
Stupid people with stupid names These are in every game.
I just started WoW about 2.5 weeks ago, so do not start the fanboy crap. I am a lvl 22 Human priest. I am taking my time lvling and enjoying myself. I started after reading how extremely horrible this game is from the members of this forum. I wanted to see for myself. It is really not as bad as you people make it out to be. In fact, I kind of like it.
I have played most MMO's such as UO, MxO, SWG Pre-suck, EvE, DAoC, etc, so you cannot throw the n00b crap at me either.
You people will not like a game if it is not like
*Eve
*SWG Pre-CU
*UO
or
*DAoC
That is a fact that I have gleaned from these forums. And the pure hatred and venom! Good God.
Get over it already. You may not like the game, but 8,000,000 other people do. Yes, the majority is not always correct, but neither is the minority. If you do not like the game, why talk about it so damn much? All you do is drive more people like myself to try it and get hooked, totally defeating your purpose.
I honestly do not see a major difference in this game than any other MMORPG that would make it suck as bad as you want everyone to believe.
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RAWR ok, i've highlighted every clause of yours that has said that WoW is no different from any other game. WoW is a fine game, sure, w/e... i honestly don't have a problem with it, it makes big $$, good for blizzard. my issue comes in when it makes ALOT of $$, SO MUCH SO that it turns the entire MMO industry upside down. now, every game IS like WoW, except for the games you've mentioned, pre-CU SWG, UO, DAoC, EvE.
i'll let you have 1 guess why...
nvm, i'll tell you why.
They were all made BEFORE WoW. they were all made BEFORE the drastic change in the industry. now everybody's trying to find blizzards secrert formula and the industry is changing to crap as a whole. (just like modern rap as opposed to older stuff, but that's a topic for a different time )
also, you're point about talking about a game will drive people to get hooked? well... that's bull. if i stand here silently while all of the WoW fanbois say "this is the best game in the world" then that's what will get people hooked.
You don't come here to comment about the limit selection of colors in the shoelace industry. Why? Because you don't have any emotional investment in shoelaces. But you do have an emotional investment in hating wow. If you don't like something, why not just move on or get on with you life about it.
i don't come here talking about shoelaces because this is a GAMING website...
but if you want to hear my beef with shoelaces, here i go.
corporations (such as nike) travel to extremley poor places, and offer those people jobs when they're DESPERATE and will work for low wages, as soon as the economy starts to stabilize, and the thought of unions start to pop up, the corporation will move on to the next town, laying off thousands. there's my beef with shoelaces.
WOW mucked it up for everyone. Where there was once room for diversity between different games that managed to coexist in harmony each carving out its own little successful niche in the MMO genre as a whole NOW there is only the mad dash of game developers who want to make that Phat cash that WOW is raking in and if that means blatantly copying every aspect of Blizzards game to get it they will.
I hope they realize that someday and probably sooner than later people are going to realize they have been had and all of these copycats are going to be left holding the bag when the bottom drops out and only Blizzard managed to capitalize on what is basically the dot com era of MMORPGS.
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Kordrial is right......... WOW mucked it up for everyone. Where there was once room for diversity between different games that managed to coexist in harmony each carving out its own little successful niche in the MMO genre as a whole NOW there is only the mad dash of game developers who want to make that Phat cash that WOW is raking in and if that means blatantly copying every aspect of Blizzards game to get it they will. And Blizzard did not copy what they could from other games? The underlined part . . . that is the key. Each market had it's niche of (rough guesstimate) 1,000,000. Now remember, you are in this business of creating games to make money, first and foremost. You did not get people to front money, so you could see your pet project spring to life. The investors want capital. So are you going to try for your niche market of 1,000,000 or go for the 8,000,000? And somewhere, someone will make the jump and try something new, and it will catch on. I do not believe that it will be as big as WoW is. And the cycle starts over again. 10 years later we will be complaining that game "X" copied so many things from all the other games since game "Y" took down WoW, and now all the devs will jsut be wanting some of that phat cash from copying game "X" and there will be no diversity.
I hope they realize that someday and probably sooner than later people are going to realize they have been had and all of these copycats are going to be left holding the bag when the bottom drops out and only Blizzard managed to capitalize on what is basically the dot com era of MMORPGS. Umm . . . yeah. That is their loss. It depends on how well the "copycats" do financially. If they are able to hold their own, more power to them. If they lose out . . . that is life, and that is business. Oh well. Welcome to capitalism.
Originally posted by kordrial
Originally posted by xxpigxx
Originally posted by XApotheosisX
log into one of the medium capacity RP servers with another unimportant name. Remake my paladin and skip the damn human movie again. by the way I love the pajamas paladins start with And the starting clothes are so much cooler with all the other games Autoattack , next ... Auto Attack , next ... AutoAttack, next ... AutoAttack, next. how exciting! And attacking in this game is different from other games how?
well I ding i say to myself well maybe now i will get skills that will make combat pretty exciting ... 10 levels later ... Autoattack, next ... autoattack, next .... autoattack, next ... autoattack, next ................ great at least i can buff. I buff you and you and you and you. Once again . . . it is different than game "X" how?
Boring classes Classes are the same as any other fantasy game
Boring Customization
Boring combat Combat is the same as with most other MMORPG's
Stupid people with stupid names These are in every game.
I just started WoW about 2.5 weeks ago, so do not start the fanboy crap. I am a lvl 22 Human priest. I am taking my time lvling and enjoying myself. I started after reading how extremely horrible this game is from the members of this forum. I wanted to see for myself. It is really not as bad as you people make it out to be. In fact, I kind of like it.
I have played most MMO's such as UO, MxO, SWG Pre-suck, EvE, DAoC, etc, so you cannot throw the n00b crap at me either.
You people will not like a game if it is not like
*Eve
*SWG Pre-CU
*UO
or
*DAoC
That is a fact that I have gleaned from these forums. And the pure hatred and venom! Good God.
Get over it already. You may not like the game, but 8,000,000 other people do. Yes, the majority is not always correct, but neither is the minority. If you do not like the game, why talk about it so damn much? All you do is drive more people like myself to try it and get hooked, totally defeating your purpose.
I honestly do not see a major difference in this game than any other MMORPG that would make it suck as bad as you want everyone to believe.
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RAWR ok, i've highlighted every clause of yours that has said that WoW is no different from any other game. WoW is a fine game, sure, w/e... i honestly don't have a problem with it, it makes big $$, good for blizzard. my issue comes in when it makes ALOT of $$, SO MUCH SO that it turns the entire MMO industry upside down. now, every game IS like WoW, except for the games you've mentioned, pre-CU SWG, UO, DAoC, EvE.
i'll let you have 1 guess why...
nvm, i'll tell you why.
They were all made BEFORE WoW. they were all made BEFORE the drastic change in the industry. now everybody's trying to find blizzards secrert formula and the industry is changing to crap as a whole. (just like modern rap as opposed to older stuff, but that's a topic for a different time )
So basically what you are saying is that you want all the games to copy the pre-WoW games, instead of the game you loathe, WoW. The industry is a business first and foremost. It doesnot matter if the next big thing was a stick figure MMO living in a world of notebook paper and oregami. If it selles well, others will try and emulate it. WoW sold more than most of those combined. SOld more than all of them individually. Who would you copy IF YOU ARE OUT TO MAKE MONEY ?
also, you're point about talking about a game will drive people to get hooked? well... that's bull. if i stand here silently while all of the WoW fanbois say "this is the best game in the world" then that's what will get people hooked.
Whether it be good or bad, word of mouth will get someone to buy something. Praising the game will get someone to try it just as well as taking a crap on the game will get someone to try it.
Any publicity is good publicity.
So, do tell me, after all of that. What makes WoW so hated for people to pour their venom onto this game and try their hardest to get people to agree with them that the game sucks, if emulates most other MMORPG's? I will tell you what I think it is. Jealousy that their favorite game had nowhere near the success that WoW does.
RAWR ok, i've highlighted every clause of yours that has said that WoW is no different from any other game. WoW is a fine game, sure, w/e... i honestly don't have a problem with it, it makes big $$, good for blizzard. my issue comes in when it makes ALOT of $$, SO MUCH SO that it turns the entire MMO industry upside down. now, every game IS like WoW, except for the games you've mentioned, pre-CU SWG, UO, DAoC, EvE.
i'll let you have 1 guess why...
nvm, i'll tell you why.
They were all made BEFORE WoW. they were all made BEFORE the drastic change in the industry. now everybody's trying to find blizzards secrert formula and the industry is changing to crap as a whole. (just like modern rap as opposed to older stuff, but that's a topic for a different time )
So basically what you are saying is that you want all the games to copy the pre-WoW games, instead of the game you loathe, WoW.
i have no idea how you came to that conclusion... all of the games, DAoC, EVE pre-CU SWG EQ UO that came before WoW are all very different from each other... and i said WoW was a fine game...
The industry is a business first and foremost. It doesnot matter if the next big thing was a stick figure MMO living in a world of notebook paper and oregami. If it selles well, others will try and emulate it. WoW sold more than most of those combined. SOld more than all of them individually. Who would you copy IF YOU ARE OUT TO MAKE MONEY ?
also, you're point about talking about a game will drive people to get hooked? well... that's bull. if i stand here silently while all of the WoW fanbois say "this is the best game in the world" then that's what will get people hooked.
Whether it be good or bad, word of mouth will get someone to buy something. Praising the game will get someone to try it just as well as taking a crap on the game will get someone to try it.
Any publicity is good publicity.
no see this is false, let's direct your attention to the amount of good advertizments co.s use! if any publicity is good, then the corporations could be hosting comercials saying "our game sucks" and listing the reasons why. this would cause people to buy it!... wait... O.o
So, do tell me, after all of that. What makes WoW so hated for people to pour their venom onto this game and try their hardest to get people to agree with them that the game sucks, if emulates most other MMORPG's? I will tell you what I think it is. Jealousy that their favorite game had nowhere near the success that WoW does. hehe ok, i'm happy to hear what you think. i've already told you what i think, and you responded by telling me something i already knew? of course they'll try to emulate the next big thing, which is why i regret WoW's success. My point is that before WoW, this Industry (which is still in its infancy believe it or not, 10 yrs) was untainted by large amounts of corporate espionage, where game devs were all trying to still find fun things for players. Now the MMO genre, like many others have before it, is tainted, even if WoW isn't terrible, it's still all one thing now, and too much of one thing can kill you. no matter how sweet that thing is.
Well WoW is a very complicated game. It tends to have very different beginings for everyone that plays. I played for about 2 mounths and got up to lvl 30. Like you when i first started playing the game i noticed it was very cartoony and very "kidish" looking. Unlike you however i did research and expected to find a cartoon looking game. As i went through the world through i noticed that that cartoony graphics acully made the game more fun. It made it seem like i didnt have to be as serius. In the end it looks to me that you just had a bad first impression. Give the game a chance play for about a week and then dicide.
Originally posted by kordrial Originally posted by wjrasmussen You don't come here to comment about the limit selection of colors in the shoelace industry. Why? Because you don't have any emotional investment in shoelaces. But you do have an emotional investment in hating wow. If you don't like something, why not just move on or get on with you life about it.
i don't come here talking about shoelaces because this is a GAMING website... but if you want to hear my beef with shoelaces, here i go. corporations (such as nike) travel to extremley poor places, and offer those people jobs when they're DESPERATE and will work for low wages, as soon as the economy starts to stabilize, and the thought of unions start to pop up, the corporation will move on to the next town, laying off thousands. there's my beef with shoelaces. EDIT: spelling
You do know those places where "sweat" shops are out pay wages that'll usually put their employees above the proverty line in their nation? So STFU and follow the motto by Walmart "Act local, Think global"
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xxpigxx, I have a really hard time believing you got past level 10 on any of the games you claim to have played.
Boring classes Classes are the same as any other fantasy game. Coming from a guy who said he played DAoC?
Boring combat Combat is the same as with most other MMORPG's You cannot cast spells while being attacked in DAoC, Spells are 10x more simplistic in WoW than any other game out there and you can't deny that. Other than that that you're right.
Stupid people with stupid names These are in every game. Not even close to the extent that WoW is. Not even close...
Shitty Graphics That is your opinion. I happen to like them. They are true to the Warcraft universe. Than again the other Warcrafts were 2d.
Boring Races I do not understand this one. Dwarf, orc, human, elf. Nothing new, old stuff, reused. EQII have the frogloks, the kerra, to name just two. DAoC took folklore and made their characters from it, such as their firbolgs, inconnu, valkyn, and sylvan. Once again, doubting you played much of the mmos you claimed to.
To the OP: What the hell did you expect out of the game? Did you want it to send somebody to your house and blow you? EVERY single MMO I've played has had boring early levels. Every single online game has players with ridiculously stupid names, and this forum has more than its fair share. What game has grouping in early levels, I can only name 1 that requires grouping and that's DDO, in nearly every other game it's beneficial to solo for your first 10-20 levels and at that point you should have a good grasp on how to play your character. And whats the big deal about just having auto-attack in the beginning since the game needs to make sure that players know how to play before they give them a dozen buttons to click in battle.
Yes, WoW is very simplistic at the beginning but so is EVERY OTHER MMO OUT THERE. What this thread boils down to is that you don't want to enjoy the game and you'll find everything wrong with it that you possibly can, and nothing will make you enjoy it. If you go into something with a negative attitude looking for flaws you're going to find flaws and dislike your experiences. You're probably even going to go into instanced dungeons with groups and find some reason to not enjoy your time playing the game "THE DUNGEONS ARE TOO FUN WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZ IS FUCKING US AGAIN"
What game do you like anyway?
Originally posted by Takai001You do know those places where "sweat" shops are out pay wages that'll usually put their employees above the proverty line in their nation? So STFU and follow the motto by Walmart "Act local, Think global"
Making children work 12 hours a day in a poorly lit "warehouse" is perfectly fine because they're just barely able to survive in their country with what we pay them! They should be grateful for our presence in their country because without our companies taking advantage of the terrible situation that WE PUT THEM IN they would be poor and dead AM I RITE?!?!?
I can tell you the only reason for me playing wow atm, all my normal gaming-buddies are playing the game. I hate wow and every aspect of it, but if you have some mates to play with it gets a whole lot better.
xxpigxx, I have a really hard time believing you got past level 10 on any of the games you claim to have played.
Boring classes Classes are the same as any other fantasy game. Coming from a guy who said he played DAoC? Wow's are dumbed down, but basically the same
Boring combat Combat is the same as with most other MMORPG's You cannot cast spells while being attacked in DAoC, Spells are 10x more simplistic in WoW than any other game out there and you can't deny that. Other than that that you're right.As you said, not as difficult, but the same
Stupid people with stupid names These are in every game. Not even close to the extent that WoW is. Not even close...Maybe because there are more people? Simple statistics. It is all relative. SO you are giving him credit because he quit when he saw 4 people with stupid names?
Shitty Graphics That is your opinion. I happen to like them. They are true to the Warcraft universe. Than again the other Warcrafts were 2d. The way the game looks is a very good translation from 2D to 3D. They did it right.
Boring Races I do not understand this one. Dwarf, orc, human, elf. Nothing new, old stuff, reused. EQII have the frogloks, the kerra, to name just two. DAoC took folklore and made their characters from it, such as their firbolgs, inconnu, valkyn, and sylvan. Once again, doubting you played much of the mmos you claimed to.Once again. Basic fantasy characters. Not ones that were pulled out of someone's ass.
Doubt as much as you want. Does not bother me in the least. The fact is that WoW is BASICALLY the same as most other MMORPG's
xxpigxx, I have a really hard time believing you got past level 10 on any of the games you claim to have played.
Boring classes Classes are the same as any other fantasy game. Coming from a guy who said he played DAoC? Wow's are dumbed down, but basically the same Okay, please tell me a class from WoW that is at all like the Vampiir, Bainshee, Valewalker, Theurgist, Savage, or Bonedancer?
You can't say WoW is dumbed down because everything is difference except for the black and white melee is melee, cast is cast, pet is pet.
Boring combat Combat is the same as with most other MMORPG's You cannot cast spells while being attacked in DAoC, Spells are 10x more simplistic in WoW than any other game out there and you can't deny that. Other than that that you're right.As you said, not as difficult, but the same
Stupid people with stupid names These are in every game. Not even close to the extent that WoW is. Not even close...Maybe because there are more people? Simple statistics. It is all relative. SO you are giving him credit because he quit when he saw 4 people with stupid names? Heh, it's not relative. It's the player base.... 10-14 year olds probably make up most of WoW, 10-14 year olds are usually immature with stupid names. It's who is attracted to the game, not how many of one type of person that decides to name their character "Niggss" or "Hordepally"...actual names by the way.
Shitty Graphics That is your opinion. I happen to like them. They are true to the Warcraft universe. Than again the other Warcrafts were 2d. The way the game looks is a very good translation from 2D to 3D. They did it right. Yea, it's oppinion. WoWs graphics don't bother me.
Boring Races I do not understand this one. Dwarf, orc, human, elf. Nothing new, old stuff, reused. EQII have the frogloks, the kerra, to name just two. DAoC took folklore and made their characters from it, such as their firbolgs, inconnu, valkyn, and sylvan. Once again, doubting you played much of the mmos you claimed to.Once again. Basic fantasy characters. Not ones that were pulled out of someone's ass. "Basic fantasy characters?" Look, WoW didn't dig deeper like DAoC or any other of that nature did. Therefor, boring races.
I actually play WoW and enjoy it a lot, I just think you are wrong on some things.
You don't come here to comment about the limit selection of colors in the shoelace industry. Why? Because you don't have any emotional investment in shoelaces. But you do have an emotional investment in hating wow. If you don't like something, why not just move on or get on with you life about it.
i don't come here talking about shoelaces because this is a GAMING website...
but if you want to hear my beef with shoelaces, here i go.
corporations (such as nike) travel to extremley poor places, and offer those people jobs when they're DESPERATE and will work for low wages, as soon as the economy starts to stabilize, and the thought of unions start to pop up, the corporation will move on to the next town, laying off thousands. there's my beef with shoelaces.
EDIT: spelling
You do know those places where "sweat" shops are out pay wages that'll usually put their employees above the proverty line in their nation? So STFU and follow the motto by Walmart "Act local, Think global"
yea, yes i do, you're right. in fact, you just parroted back at me what i said. they go to places and set up sweat shops where the people there are willing to work for extremely low wages. once the area begins to stabalize... they leave, laying off thousands which rattles the economy harder than before. i can add more, like how minimum wage in this country (among others) is below the living wage, etc. etc.
To the OP.... hehe. nice read. I liked your narrative style etc.
I too played a palladin, and could only stand it till around lvl 10. It has to be the most boring class ever conceived. Try playing a rogue or hunter, without buying vendor stuff (just using stuff that drops). It's a little more fun imo.
ok i will tell the truth. I use to always bag on WoW and how it loved how big its player base was cause thats just another 7 million people not playing my favorite games. Though i have turned to the darkside. after playing almost every MMO that exists to man i turned to WoW.
First off my only initiative was my friends were playing it so w/e. now anyways i have played it for a while now and its still fun for me to get together with my friends and level up or go pvp since its just so simple. WoW is the only game i really play a lot of now since i quit EQ2 and CO (my most recent games). Its not that bad of a game if you get in a guild and just have fun...
I know how you feel. Thats why I love sandbox, skillbased mmorpgs. I hate levelling and with that the solomindedness of players. All they seem to think about its how to get xp...I could never understand that. Well, at least its not a play style for me and one of the main reasons why I usually quit a new mmorpg after 3 month or so and go back to the one mmorpg that I realy do like, hehe.
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xxpigxx, I have a really hard time believing you got past level 10 on any of the games you claim to have played.
Boring Races I do not understand this one. Dwarf, orc, human, elf. Nothing new, old stuff, reused. EQII have the frogloks, the kerra, to name just two. DAoC took folklore and made their characters from it, such as their firbolgs, inconnu, valkyn, and sylvan. Once again, doubting you played much of the mmos you claimed to.
Did you play wow or look at the races? Im not sayign the game is amazing or crap im saying you didnt even look at the races there arent just four. There are Night Elf, Human, Dwarf, Gnome, Draenei, Tauren, Orc, Troll, Undead, Blood Elf.
I realise DAoC has a much greater race selection and much better lore but you selectively picked a part of warcraft you wanted to attack and didnt give the full information. I could nit pick in any game if i was willing to omit data that i didnt want to mention.
*Pokes head in* Oh geez its another "I think WOW sucks post" *leaves thread*
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But, back to the OP's experience, you never gave it a fair chance. Level 10 on a Pally isn't a fair trial.. you should have gone for a Mage or Warlock maybe. Pallys really do just autoswing...with an occasion judgement or blessing tossed in. Probabaly one of the easier and less interesting classes the game offers. And you really won't get a feel for how any class plays until at least level 20...and level 30 would be better. I've played every class in the game to the mid 20's/30's and have a 60 Mage, Priest, Pally, Druid and Warlock.
It is true though, most people solo level, the game is designed (as are most others) to penalize group play unless you are running epic quests with their beefed up npc's to kill.
Speaking of people, I met some very cool people in Wow...more than offsetting the ass-hats that were there. You need to be patient though....at level 10 you'll be lucky to be in a decent guild... it usually takes some hard work to find a good one.
I've moved on now... playing DAOC and Vanguard... but I still have fond memories of my time in WoW... and know for many people, WoW is all the MMORPG they'll ever need. Doesn't make them less competent or intelligent for their choice, just means WoW provides them the gaming experience they want and need. Other games will come out for the rest of us.
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I have played most MMO's such as UO, MxO, SWG Pre-suck, EvE, DAoC, etc, so you cannot throw the n00b crap at me either.
You people will not like a game if it is not like
*Eve
*SWG Pre-CU
*UO
or
*DAoC
That is a fact that I have gleaned from these forums. And the pure hatred and venom! Good God.
Get over it already. You may not like the game, but 8,000,000 other people do. Yes, the majority is not always correct, but neither is the minority. If you do not like the game, why talk about it so damn much? All you do is drive more people like myself to try it and get hooked, totally defeating your purpose.
I honestly do not see a major difference in this game than any other MMORPG that would make it suck as bad as you want everyone to believe.
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RAWR ok, i've highlighted every clause of yours that has said that WoW is no different from any other game. WoW is a fine game, sure, w/e... i honestly don't have a problem with it, it makes big $$, good for blizzard. my issue comes in when it makes ALOT of $$, SO MUCH SO that it turns the entire MMO industry upside down. now, every game IS like WoW, except for the games you've mentioned, pre-CU SWG, UO, DAoC, EvE.
i'll let you have 1 guess why...
nvm, i'll tell you why.
They were all made BEFORE WoW. they were all made BEFORE the drastic change in the industry. now everybody's trying to find blizzards secrert formula and the industry is changing to crap as a whole. (just like modern rap as opposed to older stuff, but that's a topic for a different time
)
also, you're point about talking about a game will drive people to get hooked? well... that's bull. if i stand here silently while all of the WoW fanbois say "this is the best game in the world" then that's what will get people hooked.
i don't come here talking about shoelaces because this is a GAMING website...
but if you want to hear my beef with shoelaces, here i go.
corporations (such as nike) travel to extremley poor places, and offer those people jobs when they're DESPERATE and will work for low wages, as soon as the economy starts to stabilize, and the thought of unions start to pop up, the corporation will move on to the next town, laying off thousands. there's my beef with shoelaces.
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Kordrial is right.........
WOW mucked it up for everyone. Where there was once room for diversity between different games that managed to coexist in harmony each carving out its own little successful niche in the MMO genre as a whole NOW there is only the mad dash of game developers who want to make that Phat cash that WOW is raking in and if that means blatantly copying every aspect of Blizzards game to get it they will.
I hope they realize that someday and probably sooner than later people are going to realize they have been had and all of these copycats are going to be left holding the bag when the bottom drops out and only Blizzard managed to capitalize on what is basically the dot com era of MMORPGS.
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I have played most MMO's such as UO, MxO, SWG Pre-suck, EvE, DAoC, etc, so you cannot throw the n00b crap at me either.
You people will not like a game if it is not like
*Eve
*SWG Pre-CU
*UO
or
*DAoC
That is a fact that I have gleaned from these forums. And the pure hatred and venom! Good God.
Get over it already. You may not like the game, but 8,000,000 other people do. Yes, the majority is not always correct, but neither is the minority. If you do not like the game, why talk about it so damn much? All you do is drive more people like myself to try it and get hooked, totally defeating your purpose.
I honestly do not see a major difference in this game than any other MMORPG that would make it suck as bad as you want everyone to believe.
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RAWR ok, i've highlighted every clause of yours that has said that WoW is no different from any other game. WoW is a fine game, sure, w/e... i honestly don't have a problem with it, it makes big $$, good for blizzard. my issue comes in when it makes ALOT of $$, SO MUCH SO that it turns the entire MMO industry upside down. now, every game IS like WoW, except for the games you've mentioned, pre-CU SWG, UO, DAoC, EvE.
i'll let you have 1 guess why...
nvm, i'll tell you why.
They were all made BEFORE WoW. they were all made BEFORE the drastic change in the industry. now everybody's trying to find blizzards secrert formula and the industry is changing to crap as a whole. (just like modern rap as opposed to older stuff, but that's a topic for a different time
)
So basically what you are saying is that you want all the games to copy the pre-WoW games, instead of the game you loathe, WoW.also, you're point about talking about a game will drive people to get hooked? well... that's bull. if i stand here silently while all of the WoW fanbois say "this is the best game in the world" then that's what will get people hooked.
Whether it be good or bad, word of mouth will get someone to buy something. Praising the game will get someone to try it just as well as taking a crap on the game will get someone to try it.
Any publicity is good publicity.
So, do tell me, after all of that. What makes WoW so hated for people to pour their venom onto this game and try their hardest to get people to agree with them that the game sucks, if emulates most other MMORPG's? I will tell you what I think it is. Jealousy that their favorite game had nowhere near the success that WoW does.
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RAWR ok, i've highlighted every clause of yours that has said that WoW is no different from any other game. WoW is a fine game, sure, w/e... i honestly don't have a problem with it, it makes big $$, good for blizzard. my issue comes in when it makes ALOT of $$, SO MUCH SO that it turns the entire MMO industry upside down. now, every game IS like WoW, except for the games you've mentioned, pre-CU SWG, UO, DAoC, EvE.
i'll let you have 1 guess why...
nvm, i'll tell you why.
They were all made BEFORE WoW. they were all made BEFORE the drastic change in the industry. now everybody's trying to find blizzards secrert formula and the industry is changing to crap as a whole. (just like modern rap as opposed to older stuff, but that's a topic for a different time
)
So basically what you are saying is that you want all the games to copy the pre-WoW games, instead of the game you loathe, WoW.
i have no idea how you came to that conclusion... all of the games, DAoC, EVE pre-CU SWG EQ UO that came before WoW are all very different from each other... and i said WoW was a fine game...
The industry is a business first and foremost. It doesnot matter if the next big thing was a stick figure MMO living in a world of notebook paper and oregami. If it selles well, others will try and emulate it. WoW sold more than most of those combined. SOld more than all of them individually. Who would you copy IF YOU ARE OUT TO MAKE MONEY ?
also, you're point about talking about a game will drive people to get hooked? well... that's bull. if i stand here silently while all of the WoW fanbois say "this is the best game in the world" then that's what will get people hooked.
Whether it be good or bad, word of mouth will get someone to buy something. Praising the game will get someone to try it just as well as taking a crap on the game will get someone to try it.
Any publicity is good publicity.
no see this is false, let's direct your attention to the amount of good advertizments co.s use! if any publicity is good, then the corporations could be hosting comercials saying "our game sucks" and listing the reasons why. this would cause people to buy it!... wait... O.o
So, do tell me, after all of that. What makes WoW so hated for people to pour their venom onto this game and try their hardest to get people to agree with them that the game sucks, if emulates most other MMORPG's? I will tell you what I think it is. Jealousy that their favorite game had nowhere near the success that WoW does.
hehe ok, i'm happy to hear what you think. i've already told you what i think, and you responded by telling me something i already knew? of course they'll try to emulate the next big thing, which is why i regret WoW's success. My point is that before WoW, this Industry (which is still in its infancy believe it or not, 10 yrs) was untainted by large amounts of corporate espionage, where game devs were all trying to still find fun things for players. Now the MMO genre, like many others have before it, is tainted, even if WoW isn't terrible, it's still all one thing now, and too much of one thing can kill you. no matter how sweet that thing is.
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EDIT: This quoting interface SUCKS >.<Well WoW is a very complicated game. It tends to have very different beginings for everyone that plays. I played for about 2 mounths and got up to lvl 30. Like you when i first started playing the game i noticed it was very cartoony and very "kidish" looking. Unlike you however i did research and expected to find a cartoon looking game. As i went through the world through i noticed that that cartoony graphics acully made the game more fun. It made it seem like i didnt have to be as serius. In the end it looks to me that you just had a bad first impression. Give the game a chance play for about a week and then dicide.
i don't come here talking about shoelaces because this is a GAMING website...
but if you want to hear my beef with shoelaces, here i go.
corporations (such as nike) travel to extremley poor places, and offer those people jobs when they're DESPERATE and will work for low wages, as soon as the economy starts to stabilize, and the thought of unions start to pop up, the corporation will move on to the next town, laying off thousands. there's my beef with shoelaces.
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You do know those places where "sweat" shops are out pay wages that'll usually put their employees above the proverty line in their nation? So STFU and follow the motto by Walmart "Act local, Think global"
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Boring classes Classes are the same as any other fantasy game. Coming from a guy who said he played DAoC?
Boring combat Combat is the same as with most other MMORPG's You cannot cast spells while being attacked in DAoC, Spells are 10x more simplistic in WoW than any other game out there and you can't deny that. Other than that that you're right.
Stupid people with stupid names These are in every game. Not even close to the extent that WoW is. Not even close...
Shitty Graphics That is your opinion. I happen to like them. They are true to the Warcraft universe. Than again the other Warcrafts were 2d.
Boring Races I do not understand this one. Dwarf, orc, human, elf. Nothing new, old stuff, reused. EQII have the frogloks, the kerra, to name just two. DAoC took folklore and made their characters from it, such as their firbolgs, inconnu, valkyn, and sylvan. Once again, doubting you played much of the mmos you claimed to.
Yes, WoW is very simplistic at the beginning but so is EVERY OTHER MMO OUT THERE. What this thread boils down to is that you don't want to enjoy the game and you'll find everything wrong with it that you possibly can, and nothing will make you enjoy it. If you go into something with a negative attitude looking for flaws you're going to find flaws and dislike your experiences. You're probably even going to go into instanced dungeons with groups and find some reason to not enjoy your time playing the game "THE DUNGEONS ARE TOO FUN WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZ IS FUCKING US AGAIN"
What game do you like anyway?
Making children work 12 hours a day in a poorly lit "warehouse" is perfectly fine because they're just barely able to survive in their country with what we pay them! They should be grateful for our presence in their country because without our companies taking advantage of the terrible situation that WE PUT THEM IN they would be poor and dead AM I RITE?!?!?
And this List still lacks all the spells between 61 and 70, not to mention quested/bought spells and AA's
And every one of these spells can be upgraded to 7 progrsivly better versions, some 8
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i don't come here talking about shoelaces because this is a GAMING website...
but if you want to hear my beef with shoelaces, here i go.
corporations (such as nike) travel to extremley poor places, and offer those people jobs when they're DESPERATE and will work for low wages, as soon as the economy starts to stabilize, and the thought of unions start to pop up, the corporation will move on to the next town, laying off thousands. there's my beef with shoelaces.
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You do know those places where "sweat" shops are out pay wages that'll usually put their employees above the proverty line in their nation? So STFU and follow the motto by Walmart "Act local, Think global"
yea, yes i do, you're right. in fact, you just parroted back at me what i said. they go to places and set up sweat shops where the people there are willing to work for extremely low wages. once the area begins to stabalize... they leave, laying off thousands which rattles the economy harder than before. i can add more, like how minimum wage in this country (among others) is below the living wage, etc. etc.
I too played a palladin, and could only stand it till around lvl 10. It has to be the most boring class ever conceived. Try playing a rogue or hunter, without buying vendor stuff (just using stuff that drops). It's a little more fun imo.
First off my only initiative was my friends were playing it so w/e. now anyways i have played it for a while now and its still fun for me to get together with my friends and level up or go pvp since its just so simple. WoW is the only game i really play a lot of now since i quit EQ2 and CO (my most recent games). Its not that bad of a game if you get in a guild and just have fun...
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I realise DAoC has a much greater race selection and much better lore but you selectively picked a part of warcraft you wanted to attack and didnt give the full information. I could nit pick in any game if i was willing to omit data that i didnt want to mention.
*Pokes head in* Oh geez its another "I think WOW sucks post" *leaves thread*
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