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I dont even play WoW and I got banned ROFL
Baywillow
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This is a notification regarding your World of Warcraft account. Access to this account has been permanently disabled for exploitation of the World of Warcraft economy or for being associated to accounts which have been closed for intended exploitation. While we try to be as lenient as possible in our assessments of the results of exploitation investigations, reoccurring trends in exploitative endeavors on your account have ultimately resulted in account closure.
So I got banned for having 1 older paid account thats not even active, and for having 1 previous trial account?
What are these people smokin?
So I got banned for having 1 older paid account thats not even active, and for having 1 previous trial account?
What are these people smokin?
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1. You broke the TOS/EULA while it was active.
or
2. Someone else used your account and broke the TOS/EULA.
Or
3) Blizzards investigation unit is up to its usual tricks.
Its pretty clear at this point that point that Blizzard doesnt review anything before banning. They set up an automated filter and ban any account that gets flagged. This is a practice that inevitably results in a very large number of false positives, and thats exactly what weve seen. Other companies actually take the time to review bans to see if they make sense while Blizzard bans legitimate players on a regular basis.
Facts son, show us your facts. I tend to believe that most people who get banned are not legitimate players, they've done something wrong, just won't own up to it.
There are no guilty men in prison....
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This is no bullshit, I got no facts so don't ask for any.
The facts are legitimate players who were banned come forward on a regular basis. The OP in this thread is just one more example. How on earth do you ban an account that isnt even active if you are reviwing these decisions?
If you want to argue that all these people who come forward and complain are lying then its you, not I who needs to provide evidence, son.
Facts son, show us your facts. I tend to believe that most people who get banned are not legitimate players, they've done something wrong, just won't own up to it.
There are no guilty men in prison....
The facts are legitimate players who were banned come forward on a regular basis. The OP in this thread is just one more example. How on earth do you ban an account that isn’t even active if you are reviwing these decisions?
If you want to argue that all these people who come forward and complain are lying then it’s you, not I who needs to provide evidence, son.
If Blizzard did not have facts they would not ban, it is as simple as that. People who have lost their account after breaking the TOS/EULA will always come to forums to lie and whine. That does not mean they are innocent.Why do they ban an account that isn't even active? Because they gather data over long times and then ban in bulks.
Funny you should put it that way because you are the one falling back on conspiracy theories. If you think the people coming forward to complain about Blizzard banning them with no cause then put some proof on the table to show they are lying. If you cant do this you got nothing.
The ball is in your court and the burden of proof is on *you*, put up some evidence or cut the fanboi bullshit.
Blizzard are crap in terms of CS tbh.
Yeah, I do reckon that all the people who come forward saying their account has been unfairingly banned count as 'facts'... Eye witnesses to the crime, I suppose...
I guess they could all be lying or confused, but theres quite a few people who post about getting banned when they havent broken any rules, and although it would make sense for the exploiters and hackers to lie about it to Bilzzard, why would they be posting on random forums complaining? Just a grudge against blizzard sets them to make lies up?
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Yea I'm a fanboi, I don't even play WoW
I just can't stand reading such stupid crap without responding.
If you can prove they are lying why dont you? When you have some proof that these people are lying bring it forward. Naturally we wont see you come forward with anything other then Blizzard can do no wrong, but it should be a hoot to watch you try.
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His account was INACIVE... someone hijacked it, and used it to exploit/farm/sell/steal/grief watever so blizzard banned the account and sent an email to the registered account holder. IF said account holder were to email Blizzard they would be told that, no the account was NOT inactive and had been being played (for days/weeks/months) and exploited.
Blizzard created this monster themselved btw with the customizable interfaces and the addonds and mods. Everyone and their brother has an addon folder packed full of usefull (and useless) addons. Simply modify a good addon (SCiTE LUA Editor ftw) and repost it as a mod (after imbedding a keylogger of your choice) and you win. Let this go on for days or weeks before someone catches it and you prolly have a cache of hundreds if not thousands of accounts to choose from. By the time Blizzard has caught up to you to ban your IP (easily overcome) you could have ruined hundreds or thousands of accounts.
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I'd like to strike a blow in favor of those that say Blizzard sometimes bans blindly. It is true, it has been proven with Diablo II when they randomly banned a number of innocent people (I think such bans could be lifted, though) while trying to get rid of hacks on closed battle.net.
From a corporate standpoint the Bnet bannings HAD to happen. Blizzard owns the IP and you have to play by their rules, like it or not.
WoW CS (and this comes from my personal expirience) sucks. And sucks like a pr0n star no less. That said, I don't think they are any worse than Verant or Mythic or Turbine or SoE. Verant was the worst IMO.
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Provide a link please. I find it really hard to believe that they would ban with no proof.
There could of course be cases of where f.e an owner of a cd-key got his/her key stolen/logged and abused. In those cases the key would be banned and the rightful owner of the key would think that Blizzard bans randomly, which they in such a case didn't do.
Are you speaking about the Bnet bannings or the new WoW bannings?
Bnet is well documented, do a google on it, so I assume your talking about WoW.
Blizzard sets up filters and bans people caught in them. Example, login with Glider enabled, you'll never make it past Character Selection, as the game auto bans you (see Warden). I had two guildys insta banned, INSTA banned when they got to Korea, litterally got internet, logged into Vent said hi, logged in, and I saw
(player XXXX has come online)
(player XXXX has gone offline)
while talkin to them (one at a time mind you this happened over two days) when they tried to log back in (as they got "disconnected from server") the accounts had been banned. Thats an insta game Ban no GM did that. Had a guildy transfer over 1100 gold from our old server to our new one (when transfers opened up)that 1100 gold was from two different people. His charactet transfered and he mailed the gold to its owners (800 gold to one 300 to another) and HIS account got banned. Had one guildy (in the last month) attempt to login and his account was banned, he got an email the next day saying his conduct was against the "essence" of the world of warcraft. Of all the above people, I think all but one got their account unbanned, I know the Army guys got banned a total of 3 times, Blizzard was finally able to stop the insta bannings and gave them both a free month.
Thanks just my guild, go read the Customer Service fomums folks gettin banned left and right.
Oh and the 105,000 account Banned in November, I can;t imagine that all those account had human interaction behind the bannings, it had to be automated.
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Very unlikely. Most hijacked accounts are the result of keystroke loggers, which cant be done if the account isnt being used. Any attempt to hack through other means it would fail because the account still does not have access to the servers.
The only why this would work is if someone hacked into the payment system and paid to have the account reactivated, and someone going though this kind of effort is going to want an account thats already paid up.
My assumption is that they had his account (via a keylogger) info prior to it becoming inactive. Either they had data and never acted on it, or he went inactive at the same time he got hacked.
Possibly, but I think its more likely he at some point made a large transaction (or several smaller ones) with an account that was subsequently linked to a plat seller. This would have flagged his account as having engaged in suspicious activity, was caught up in a filter and banned.
The problem is that there is no way for someone to know for sure that anyone you trade with is a plat farmer. This means that any large purchases you make runs the risk of you getting picked up by some automated filter and get you banned.
P.s. after trying a bunch of other games i might come back and be a legit player ^_-
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1. You broke the TOS/EULA while it was active.
or
2. Someone else used your account and broke the TOS/EULA.
Or
3) Blizzards investigation unit is up to its usual tricks.
It’s pretty clear at this point that point that Blizzard doesn’t review anything before banning. They set up an automated filter and ban any account that gets flagged. This is a practice that inevitably results in a very large number of false positives, and that’s exactly what we’ve seen. Other companies actually take the time to review bans to see if they make sense while Blizzard bans legitimate players on a regular basis.
When you have 12 million or however many accounts Blizzard does with WoW, you can't afford to review each individually. It would probably take 50 people working full time to review all of those.
Way back when I used to play Diablo 2 with my friends, they would all use map hack and even one of them used the dupe glitchs and hero editor (not in open battlenet) I was the one who didnt use any hacks since I strongly believed that it was wrong. One day I tried to log onto my character and then after awhile (forgot how the notification works) I sent a message to BLizzard and they said I was banned for using 3rd party software. My friends laughed at me because they knew I did not use hacks, they also thought it was funny that I got banned and them being hard core hackers did not. This insidednt happened around the time where BLizzard was doing their mass banning runs, they got I think 300,000 accounts wiped out, some for inactive, some for hacks (it was like a system clean) Anyways they refused to tell me what ahcks I used and so I taked to my friends about it. We came to the conclusion that i had obtained a bugged item from a monster that I killed. See Blizzard does not provide a list of bugged items on their site (at least the didn't when I played) So that was the reason why I got banned, for obtaining an ingame item made by blizzard but bugged.
This may be why your accoutn was banned, Blizzard bans people if they obtain bugged items.