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Stratics review is in.. (first review I think)

9/10 !!



stratics.com/content/exclusives/vanguard/vanguard_review.php



 I have to admit I think this is more of a what the game will become rating.  I absolutely love it, but given it still has some bugs, rough spots and a few features that still need to be added, I would have had to give it an eight.



Oh well, huzzah for good reviews
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  • FaelanFaelan Member UncommonPosts: 819
    Don't get me wrong here. I think VG has tons of potential and I'm absolutely going to play VG at launch. But man... that review just sounds like he was paid by either SOE, Sigil or possibly both to write it. It's so bad that I just had to give up halfway trough and skip to the conclusion because my breakfast was threatening to make a hasty exit and I don't have a spare keyboard. Heck, I haven't even had my breakfast yet



    Please - could someone write a review with a little more honesty and less hallelujah, so that people who haven't been reading up on VG won't rush out to get it with unrealistic expectations? Oh, and at least run it through a simple spellchecker. The Stratics review was obviously not, unless there is such a game as "Worlf of Warcraft". If that's the case, how does it compare to WoW?

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  • JaerinCosmosJaerinCosmos Member Posts: 34
    How exactly do you get 9/10 from the numbers he gave?  If you average those numbers out it comes to 7.8/10.



    One thing that really amused me about the article was "Animations are strong."  Riiiight.



    With the closure of the VG forums I would've given Sigil a 7 at the highest for Support.
  • tharkthark Member UncommonPosts: 1,188

    This review, nedless to say , is false advertising at it's best...

     

    /Thark

  • Kem0sabeKem0sabe Member Posts: 443
    Needles to say that stratics is owned by IGE, along with all the other mmorpg sitespopular sites, including mmorpg.com.



    They wont necessarily give a mmorpg a bad review, especially one where they plan to sell gold, items and account to players.

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  • TithrielleTithrielle Member Posts: 547
    Originally posted by Kem0sabe

    Needles to say that stratics is owned by IGE, along with all the other mmorpg sitespopular sites, including mmorpg.com.



    They wont necessarily give a mmorpg a bad review, especially one where they plan to sell gold, items and account to players.
    Actually, IGE are boycotting Vanguard on their owned sites due to Sigil's stance on gold farming... so I'd say this is a pretty glowing review coming from them of all people!
  • GidionGidion Member UncommonPosts: 66
    Some small errors in the article i think... VG uses unreal 2.5 and no way it's going to take 1200h (300days playing 4h a day) to get to 50, thats just bs.
  • EliasThorneEliasThorne Member UncommonPosts: 338
    Well, I enjoyed Vanguard and over the last two weeks the game has come along more than any other beta I've seen - and yes as of the final day of beta animations were pretty good.



    All that said, this review is so over the top and fully of praise that it is hard to see it as anything other than a PR exercise.

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  • matraquematraque Member Posts: 1,431

    Hmm.. it might turns out to be 9/10 in a couple months, but right now... i would give 7/10.

    Still a kick ass game.  A month more of beta and it could have been a 9/10 (assuming a patch every day or 2)

    I'll be there Saturday (too bad i can't friday).

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  • RekindleRekindle Member UncommonPosts: 1,206

    wow, just plain wow.

    I would like to see vanguard succeed despite the fact I won't be playing it until they press new CDs sometime next year with all the patches and updates that are coming but what a load of shit.

  • sfallmannsfallmann Member Posts: 95

    I like the game and anticipate it's release, but I found the review to be highly flawed.  It did come across more like a paid advertisement than a review and I don't think the reviewer has actually played much of the game. 

    I think the game is great and has a lot of potential, and already has many great features.  I would recommend it - you'll get your $50 worth at a minimum but the review is rubbish.

  • kano71kano71 Member Posts: 207
    Originally posted by Tithrielle

    Originally posted by Kem0sabe

    Needles to say that stratics is owned by IGE, along with all the other mmorpg sitespopular sites, including mmorpg.com.



    They wont necessarily give a mmorpg a bad review, especially one where they plan to sell gold, items and account to players.
    Actually, IGE are boycotting Vanguard on their owned sites due to Sigil's stance on gold farming... so I'd say this is a pretty glowing review coming from them of all people! no game supports gold farming so dont make that  somehow a sigil crusade
  • metalcoremetalcore Member Posts: 798

    They shouldn't really be reviewing this til its released on the 30th.

    That said, I do agree with most of the things said, its a very positive article admittedly but I wouldn't say its an outright lie or an advert.

    Its obviously written by someone who loves VG.

    I am having major withdrawal since the close of the beta and really can't wait til Friday, I am probably not the best person to comment :)

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,079

    I found the "review" more useful in describing the overall and future direction of the game rather than a honest appraisal of the game's current state. Obviously way too much cheerleading, not enough objectivity.  9/10 is just stupid to say..after only giving the game one or two 9's in the summaries.  7/10 sounds about right, more if they clean up the bugs and add the expansion content as outlined in the article.

    Probably not a great idea to review a game based on a beta either.... would have been more valid next week after the game has officially been released and the real paying customer base has started to grow.

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  • ElikalElikal Member UncommonPosts: 7,912

    I will play VG from day one, since I felt really hooked up. BUT, a sincere review can only be written when someone has played at least into mid level, and not early on. As it was on the last beta 5 day, taking the small improvments they can make in 3 days, it will be a 7/10 not a damn dot more. There are just FAR too many open questions for anything else to be realistic.

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  • b4t3m4nb4t3m4n Member Posts: 91
    Well its nice to see everyone on here is in agreement for a change .  For the people saying they reviewed the beta, thats not really true.  Beta is over, pre-orders get to go live tomorrow, and the review was written yesterday or close to it.  Despite Sigil insane patch rate, I don't think the game is going to change a whole lot in the two days before its live .
  • VegettoVegetto Member Posts: 841

    I bet come saturday you see lvl 30's running around, it's gotten that bad in MMO's in this day in age.

    I'll turn off combat xp if i can when i play, and stick to crafting cos the players that will play this had 24hrs/day to play and i can't compete with that heh.

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  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902

    The one thing that strikes me as odd is that the same score was given to Audio as was given to Lag & Stability.

    the Lag & Stability deserves a 7, but the audio.. while not perfect deserves at least an 8.  Hell I may even say Lag and Stability deserve a 6

     

    my rate: 8/10

     

    *edit* can you count the errors in this review?

    "continenets"

    "today it just alright"

    "The give and take in the speech trees were to linear"

    hooked oh phonics werked fer me!

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  • jzuskajzuska Member Posts: 418
    Honestly, if you believe that they were not paid for that review you need your head examined, by a chainsaw. That was the most one sideed drivel i've ever read, either that or they were playing a different game than i'm beta testing.
  • VegettoVegetto Member Posts: 841

    If he gave it a 9/10 now, that means it's close to THE perfect MMO, even before release and better than anything to be released, including past champion WoW..

    Proper reviewers base their scores on something other than how many fingers they have lol (You can't include your thumbs SOE boy!).

    Edit: I so bet i get quoted on the top sentence and not the whole post rofl.

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  • b4t3m4nb4t3m4n Member Posts: 91
    Originally posted by jzuska

    Honestly, if you believe that they were not paid for that review you need your head examined, by a chainsaw. That was the most one sideed drivel i've ever read, either that or they were playing a different game than i'm beta testing.
    Why do people break their silence just to flame.  There should be some rule that you can't troll unless you have 20 previous, non-flame posts.



    Secondly, all his ratings of individual elements of the game are pretty correct.  Overall rating could be a "this game will be this good in the future".  It would be insane to rate an MMO on day one expecting it to never get better.
  • CymdaiCymdai Member UncommonPosts: 1,043
    Their sheer inability to add is remarkable.



    I'm no rocket scientist, but adding those numbers up is most definitely not a 9.

    Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...

  • VegettoVegetto Member Posts: 841


    Originally posted by b4t3m4n
    Originally posted by jzuska
    Honestly, if you believe that they were not paid for that review you need your head examined, by a chainsaw. That was the most one sideed drivel i've ever read, either that or they were playing a different game than i'm beta testing.
    Why do people break their silence just to flame. There should be some rule that you can't troll unless you have 20 previous, non-flame posts.

    Secondly, all his ratings of individual elements of the game are pretty correct. Overall rating could be a "this game will be this good in the future". It would be insane to rate an MMO on day one expecting it to never get better.


    I'm going to give SWG a 10/10 cos it should be better :)

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  • LidaneLidane Member CommonPosts: 2,300
    That review is nothing more than a PR piece. This line at the end gives it away:



    Should they release today? Why not! Vanguard is in every way a complete MMO.




    Complete? They don't even have two of the starting classes in the game! Not to mention the underpopulated areas, and various other flaws that still exist in the game world.



    It's far from complete, and anyone trying to pass this game off as being anywhere close to done is lying.



    Feh. That's not a review. It's sucking up to Sigil to get the devs to pay attention and post there since the official forums no longer exist.
  • ariestearieste Member UncommonPosts: 3,309
    Originally posted by kano71

    Originally posted by Tithrielle

    Originally posted by Kem0sabe

    Needles to say that stratics is owned by IGE, along with all the other mmorpg sitespopular sites, including mmorpg.com.



    They wont necessarily give a mmorpg a bad review, especially one where they plan to sell gold, items and account to players.
    Actually, IGE are boycotting Vanguard on their owned sites due to Sigil's stance on gold farming... so I'd say this is a pretty glowing review coming from them of all people!no game supports gold farming so dont make that  somehow a sigil crusade



    Actually, SOE (Vanguard's publisher) does support gold farming.  If you didn't know, they were the first major MMO producer to actually set up a "legal" way for their customers to buy and sell in-game characters, cash and items.  See EQ2 Exchange if you don't know what I'm talking about it.  What they don't support is competition from people that don't share the profit with them. 

    Anyhow, that is just an aside.

    I found the review extremely optimistic, having actually played Vanguard, I can't say that it is a train wreck, but it is certainly far from a 9/10.  For example, it's graphics, including models and animations are so outdated that they border on insulting.   The game world itself looks great though and makes up for it somewhat.

    The adventure gameplay is pretty much the same as is already available in current games like EQ2, CoH and WoW.  The designer's refusal to use instancing techonology has come back to bite them in the ass, since their replacement for it (a mob-instancing system as opposed to zone-instancing) is not ready at launch and people are stuck camping a newbie quest mob for what could be hours shortly after starting the game (at least at the location I started).   The lack of instancing adds nothing to the immersion, the one dungeon that I had visited would have been exactly the same in it's own zone as it is when you run through it's gates.  And even though there is no loading screen, the game still freezes while you wait to zone over to the next "chunk" of the world.   There are several other archaic notions in the game that the designers seem to have brought over due to their nostalgia for the original Everquest.  While I did hear several people say things like "yay! the grind is back!" and "I love dying 5 times trying to get to my corpse naked!", I believe those to be the sentiments of the minority.

    On the other hand, diplomacy is excellent and ready for launch.   I am not sure how (or if) if works at higher levels, but there is definitely enough to get you started having fun.

    I didn't try crafting.

     I would give vanguard an 8 out of 10 maybe 3 years ago if it had come out at the same time as EQ2 and WoW.  By today, it should have learned more from those 2 games.   Today it's a 6 or maybe a 7 if things improve significantly at high level.  One day it might become an 8, but by that day there will be new standards to measure up to.

     

     

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