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VG Performance Improvement = FALSE
godpuppet
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VG Performance Improvement = FALSE
I managed to get into Vanguard this evening as part of a blunder where certain CB accounts can play into pre-retail game time. I was expecting a boost in FPS and perhaps the opportunity to enjoy this game. I think VG has a lot of potential and could go far, but this game has only become WORSE performance wise.
I made a new character, Goblin, and started in Martok on a low pop EU server. In OB/CB I could stand on the starting boat without moving and get a satisfying 30fps, now (with the same settings) I witness 15fps which drops to 10fps when moving. So im thinking, WTF? Maybe the settings got reset. I decide to drop all my game settings to minimum (they were all pretty low anyway) and do a /flush.
IT GETS WORSE.
All of a sudden my game drops from 10fps to 5fps. I realise that editing the settings has wiped my .ini tweaks that enabled a respectable FPS. I alt tab, close any programs, increase VG's priority rating on task manager then I go back in. Again no change.
By this point im thinking "somethings seriously wrong here". Moving to the laggiest place in the immediate area (5fps stationary), I alt tab and open task manager to assess my resources, CPU at 50%, memory has 360k (out of 1gig) to spare. Back in Beta my memory was bordering 60k to spare so I assumed this was the source of my problems.
As a last resort, I decide to turn the sound off. As a result my FPS boosts by 20! Im not using a sound card, nor does my motherboard have onboard sound. Turning off sound in the past had revealed as much as 10fps but never 20! I then made a Thestrian Human and a High elf to test their starting areas, both have the same effect.
My System Specs:
AMD Athlon 64 2400+ (2.0GHZ)
1g PC3200
200gig HDD (standard)
7800 GTX Nvidia
I cant quite understand the cuase of the performance loss. If its not memory, its not CPU then the only alternatives are Harddrive and Graphics card. Granted if I add a sound card to my system it will increase my FPS. But only to 30. Does this mean that in order to play VG at a satisfying level you need a SATA HDD?
Im at a loss..
I managed to get into Vanguard this evening as part of a blunder where certain CB accounts can play into pre-retail game time. I was expecting a boost in FPS and perhaps the opportunity to enjoy this game. I think VG has a lot of potential and could go far, but this game has only become WORSE performance wise.
I made a new character, Goblin, and started in Martok on a low pop EU server. In OB/CB I could stand on the starting boat without moving and get a satisfying 30fps, now (with the same settings) I witness 15fps which drops to 10fps when moving. So im thinking, WTF? Maybe the settings got reset. I decide to drop all my game settings to minimum (they were all pretty low anyway) and do a /flush.
IT GETS WORSE.
All of a sudden my game drops from 10fps to 5fps. I realise that editing the settings has wiped my .ini tweaks that enabled a respectable FPS. I alt tab, close any programs, increase VG's priority rating on task manager then I go back in. Again no change.
By this point im thinking "somethings seriously wrong here". Moving to the laggiest place in the immediate area (5fps stationary), I alt tab and open task manager to assess my resources, CPU at 50%, memory has 360k (out of 1gig) to spare. Back in Beta my memory was bordering 60k to spare so I assumed this was the source of my problems.
As a last resort, I decide to turn the sound off. As a result my FPS boosts by 20! Im not using a sound card, nor does my motherboard have onboard sound. Turning off sound in the past had revealed as much as 10fps but never 20! I then made a Thestrian Human and a High elf to test their starting areas, both have the same effect.
My System Specs:
AMD Athlon 64 2400+ (2.0GHZ)
1g PC3200
200gig HDD (standard)
7800 GTX Nvidia
I cant quite understand the cuase of the performance loss. If its not memory, its not CPU then the only alternatives are Harddrive and Graphics card. Granted if I add a sound card to my system it will increase my FPS. But only to 30. Does this mean that in order to play VG at a satisfying level you need a SATA HDD?
Im at a loss..
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The game sues over 1gb ram to run :P You need 2gb ram.
I think it's abit odd because the game doesn't look all that good tbh and specially on low - balance settings.
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Still uses 1.1 for me
they're saying 1GB miniumum and 2.4Ghz CPU....
So to run the game comfortably I would recommend:
7800 GT or better
2.4Ghz P4 / Athlon XP or better
2GB RAM (decent RAM, not valueselect)
SATA HD with 30GB space
256MB memory on your video card
PCI-E is always a good way to go...
you gotta think to... this game is next generation and none of your specs are. everything about your PC is out-dated. You can't expect to play it with good FPS with an out-dated system. This is a brand new game....
Your CPU would be a huge bottle neck though IMO.
Vanguard used in the region of 350megs of memory when active with full settings (sound off). Do you mean to say that Vanguard 'adapts' to your memory load? Becuase thats the only logical solution i can conclude.
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Ive been monitoring CPU, seems fine. Barely breaks over 60%
This is my CPU: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-117-AM
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Your sig discredits anything you have to say.
Either way 1 gig isnt enoug now days. Upgrade to 2 gigs cost at most 200$. Another issue is your CPU is junk. Either get something with HT or Dual Core. none dual core CPUs are junk for newer games.
You cry about FPS but have serious outdated hardware. Besides your GPU everything else is junk.
You claim I need more ram, yeah I agree, but that doesnt explain how my system has 350k in reserve.
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well I run VG with everything up on highest quality... I have NEVER gotten below 20 FPS @ 1680 x 1900 resuolution
My ~$1700 PC:
core 2 duo E6400
2 Gig RAM (667mzh)
Geforce 8800GTS
x-fi sound card
this is why i don't join the graphics fight.. b/c i have good performance and get to see good graphics =P
Current MMO of interest: Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
MMO background: EQ, UO, AO, SWG, PS, EQ2, L2,EQoA, WoW, WWIIO, and AC2
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Ive been monitoring CPU, seems fine. Barely breaks over 60%
This is my CPU: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-117-AM
If you are after more FPS – graphics card, cpu, memory in that order. As your graphics card is fine, CPU is the next step: whether your monitoring says so or not, upgrading your CPU would definately help.
HDD would only affect FPS and cause shuttering if it was in use / loading, which (especially in MMORPG’s) is a sign that you would benefit from additional memory. If you remove the cause for the game to read from the HDD, then upgrading to SATA would have little / no affect on the situation.
I believe the bottle neck in this case to be your cpu. Memory would be second.
Have you also tried disabling all background programs (including antivirus) and defragging your HDD? This may help.
Also, unless the programmers can't code for crap, disabling sounds results in the most FPS. Adding a soundcard should NEVER increase FPS over 'disabled sound'.
RAM is the killer in this game, even the files for the trees are like 500MB!
I ran it fine with 2GB but added the extra not too long ago. The game very often uses almost 2GB of RAM seriously. It is *always* at least 1.5 after an hour or so.
edit: oh and a AMD64 X2 4200+ proc
Oh and make sure you don't do that stupid sysconfig.ini change, it is just wasted memory according to Gebron in beta4 or so. That will just hurt you.
See you in the dream..
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I feel sorry for people who overhauled their systems for this game, I would think that performance optimizations are on their way. I'm going to stay away from this one and give it some time.
1 gig ram
Geforce 6600 256MB
my HD is 40 GB TOTAL
I run on modified balanced settings. Things that have a huge effect are shadow detail, animation LOD and clip distance. Also turning down specular and normal mapping help a lot with very little effect on graphics quality.
I get 20+ outdoors with very little hitching 10-15 in cities with lots of loading to start and then it smooths out.
When I started beta it was 10-15 outdoors and 5-10 in cities on high performance settings.
If I switch to high performance now I get 30+ outdoors and 20+ in cities.
Heres the settings at the bottom of this:
tinyurl.com/226n69
Ughhhh, your PC is old mate. That would account for the performance issues.
A 2.4 ghz processor paired with a 7800 is a bottle neck...not to mention your 1 gig of memory..
"It is better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees,"
The improvement has increased on my end. Back in beta, I couldn't hardly keep it on Balanced. Now I can.
Regards,
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Now those that did get more problems and still have bad performance in-game have a bottleneck somewhere in theire system. Most I've heard complaining about the performance sits tight on 1GB or ram and I have to say that titles that release of today need more then that. Other thing I read early in this thread was the fact that the game generate alot of traffic from your hdarddrives. This was also true in beta and all of you that have been in betas before are aware of the fact that mostly processes run in beta that are there for a logging and analyics point of view. These also, have changed very much over the end of beta and start och launch.
I run my system on ide-harddrives that are four years old with an system that is just below theire list of a recomended system and I can still play the game at 1280x1024 at maximum settings. Out on the plains when in solo/group questing I can crank it up to 1600 without any problems at all.
Just to sum up, I had huge hopes and dreams for Vanguard and I must say that they did come true for me over the last few weeks of beta.
Love the game.
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