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  • kattjakattja Member Posts: 112
    WHAT THE...



    Something is not right about just about every one of those characters statistics.
  • swede2swede2 Member Posts: 975
    Theres no way that site is accurate, myself i did about 15 quests at the most just the starter quests to get a little gear and xp than i headed to Ca'ial Brael and started crafting been there ever since.  The site says i did 74 quests lol, god i had a grand marshal rogue in WOW and i bet i didnt do 20 quests  in that whole game either lol
  • RevMrBlackRevMrBlack Member Posts: 51
    Another weird one.  Their best Rogue:   http://vgplayers.station.sony.com/characterRankings.vm?characterId=51539608142



    Look at the Ability dmg and the Melee dmg.  Either the whole stats system is busted (my stats seem fine), or something weird is going on.



    BTW, anyone know how you can report possible exploiters?  Is there a petition in game for it, or do you have to do something on the Vanguard website?

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  • Those stats just don't make any sense at all. I suspect a bug in the stats somewhere. There is no way even with exploits you could get that far with only 76 NPC kills, unless it is a GM character or something.
  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,409

    I'm just glad they're on the RP server. Funny though, a guild that talks about dominating this and that runs to the server least likely to offer any competition for them. Which is not to say that players on the RP server don't raid, they just tend to not be all HPC about it.

    As for the stats, and whatnot, could be exploiting, could just be a bug on the website, also it could be a member of the guild that's a GM helping them under the radar, which has happened before in other games.

  • damond5031damond5031 Member UncommonPosts: 445
    Could someone explain something to me? The folks that are in these guilds that would be described as "hard core" seem to be able to play these games all day long every day. How do these people make a living, are they rich, live with parents and have no job, kids that don't go to school, retired people..or what. I cannot imagine a world, that I could sit around and play a game all day every day of the week. I'm not bashing these people, if I could game like they do...hell I probably would. I'm just asking, what is the position that most of these folks are in that allows them to do this?
  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,409

    college students, mostly. A few single types, couples that play together, and the occasional family type that puts more time into a video game, than he does his wife/kids.

    There also seems to be a myth about that type of player that they play 24/7. While some do, I know of quite a few hardcore high end uberguild types that played pretty normal hours. They just play smarter, rather than longer. Always in a group with the same people, that knew what they were doing, so they die less, and get more done in less time.

  • AutemOxAutemOx Member Posts: 1,704

    Okay, so why did he skip levels exactly?  Because the log is missing a few of the levels?  That seems like an error with the records to me.    How do we know hes exploiting and somehow 'skipping levels'?  That doesnt sound like a typical exploit or glitch, does it?  But log notes not being saved, that sounds more probable.

    I dunno why you guys are arguing about this hardcore stuff anywho.  I have a level 5 in vanguard, and knowing that some guy is level 30 really isnt hurting my game experience.  I mean, its not like everyone is higher level than me, I'm still playing along side most of the population I think.  Those 'top player' boards are definitely for the hardcore gamers, yeah, and I think its a pretty clever idea too.  I'm not gonna be on those things, because they are a feature made for the hardcore gamers.    So what are we complaining about?  Im really not sure here... Maybe I'm a little out of it.

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  • GorillaGorilla Member UncommonPosts: 2,235
    Originally posted by damond5031

    Could someone explain something to me? The folks that are in these guilds that would be described as "hard core" seem to be able to play these games all day long every day. How do these people make a living, are they rich, live with parents and have no job, kids that don't go to school, retired people..or what. I cannot imagine a world, that I could sit around and play a game all day every day of the week. I'm not bashing these people, if I could game like they do...hell I probably would. I'm just asking, what is the position that most of these folks are in that allows them to do this?
    I am retired. You get a few guys that are retired some early (or some not so early).  I have always enjoyed games MMORPG's in particular.





    P.S. I suppose I am pretty 'hardcore' but if you think I'm gonna perform mindless repetative tasks (endless grind) we have different definitions of hardcore.
  • gonkogonko Member Posts: 22
    Originally posted by wormywyrm


    Okay, so why did he skip levels exactly?  Because the log is missing a few of the levels?  That seems like an error with the records to me.    How do we know hes exploiting and somehow 'skipping levels'?  That doesnt sound like a typical exploit or glitch, does it?  But log notes not being saved, that sounds more probable.
    I dunno why you guys are arguing about this hardcore stuff anywho.  I have a level 5 in vanguard, and knowing that some guy is level 30 really isnt hurting my game experience.  I mean, its not like everyone is higher level than me, I'm still playing along side most of the population I think.  Those 'top player' boards are definitely for the hardcore gamers, yeah, and I think its a pretty clever idea too.  I'm not gonna be on those things, because they are a feature made for the hardcore gamers.    So what are we complaining about?  Im really not sure here... Maybe I'm a little out of it.
    Exactly! Because if you take the time to check other characters log levels you would notice that they also skip some levels. It's a problem with the database not recording the leveling and not some exploit that people claim on these boards. If you have a character in Vanguard, check to see if the log skipped some levels for you. You will be suprised.
  • CydoneCydone Member Posts: 171
    Originally posted by damond5031

    Could someone explain something to me? The folks that are in these guilds that would be described as "hard core" seem to be able to play these games all day long every day. How do these people make a living, are they rich, live with parents and have no job, kids that don't go to school, retired people..or what. I cannot imagine a world, that I could sit around and play a game all day every day of the week. I'm not bashing these people, if I could game like they do...hell I probably would. I'm just asking, what is the position that most of these folks are in that allows them to do this?



    In some countries like Denmark, you will get paid a minimum salery if you are out of the job market. In denmark its around 1000$ a month, thats more than I get from the state studying or that I would get on my student job.

    Its realy silly, but it help some poeple not living in the street etc. Some people though, will use this, and do nothing but say play an MMO, and just meet up for these must-go meetings, and be "active" looking for jobs. Its widespread.

    These guys would be living in the streets in other couontries, now they Live in Azeroth, and Telon for that matter.

    Cheers

  • OzriokOzriok Member Posts: 38
    This is more hardcore than any virtual-non-permanent-not-going-to-matter-in-five-years "accomplishment" you achieve ingame.































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    Yes, I also find that shallow and pedantic.

  • KombatJesusKombatJesus Member Posts: 236



    The fact that you guys are posting this shows you know jack shit about the game?

    If you look at his blog shots he is grouping. . .the game has been out for a week and a half. . .if you do the quests and do not grind and do not watse your time on Crafting and Diplomacy like he has not then you will get somewhere. . the fact that he has  the lewt that he has shows he has been adventuring. . .his blog stuff shows he has been adventuring. . .so why in the hell would someone who is adventuring 8 or more hours per day not be able to make it to 35 while grouping?

    "Dantorg gained level 34 in Falgarholm on 02/06/07 with Swendle, Alkterandorn, Jonblaze, Waimzey and Minax."

    That is a full group of nothing but adventurers playing hardcore. . .

    Did you morons go to their website??

    "Halcyon Affinity endeavors to be a high end Vanguard raiding guild. Our membership is a conglomeration of extreme and passionate players whose collective goal is to be the best raiding guild world wide."

    "Halcyon Affinity as a whole is driven to encounter and defeat all endgame content as quickly as possible; sharing this belief with the guild is probably the most important membership requirement."

    "We raid long hours and we do so often, but raiding is not all that we do. A player that does not have at least 25 to 30 hours a week to devote to gaming will find it exceedingly difficult to keep up to the operational tempo Halcyon Affinity requests from its players. "

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  • kb4blukb4blu Member UncommonPosts: 717
    Originally posted by Ethanael

    Originally posted by grape

    http://vgplayers.station.sony.com/characterRankings.vm?characterId=51539607953

    There's got to be something wrong with this game, when this guy can skip levels.



    Yikes



    Their whole guild average lvl is 21.0
    This is a Hardcore Raiding guild, Halcyon Affinity. They play 24/7, grouped. All they do is Adventure.  Not to mention, they played in Beta so they've already scouted the leveling up grounds.  They did the same thing in EQ2. Their lives revolves around MMOs. Trust me, I was a member and seen it first hand. Too much for me.



    Regards,

    That explains it.  On the AB server on EQ II that guild had a bad rep.
  • MeridionMeridion Member UncommonPosts: 1,495
    N-n-n-n-neeeewsflaaaash: Playing the guitar actually builds up hand-eye coordination, brings you together with other people, which improves your social skills, gives you an opportunity to be creative and earn some extra cash and develops your musical insight. Of course, it can be an addiction too; anything can be.

    Still, being MMOG-hardcore is - as much as I myself am a passionate player - a total waste of time. You sit - fat and lazy - in your chair staring at a 19" square talking to people you don't really know achieving things that will be gone and forgotten within years. Oh and yea, you can pretty much start flaming away with "yea, it needs tactics", and "yea, I'm talking to people over ventrillo" or "I met the love of my life ingame."

    But still, dude, it's a runnaway illusion world... something drives people to center their lives around a computer game, and its not at all normal or healthy. Wasting time for recreation is perfectly and absolutely normal. To recharge after the everyday challenges of reality. But if you skip the "everyday", the "challenges", hell, even the "reality" part, it becomes sick, end of story.



    Meridion


  • redelf07redelf07 Member Posts: 156
    Originally posted by Meridion

    N-n-n-n-neeeewsflaaaash: Playing the guitar actually builds up hand-eye coordination, brings you together with other people, which improves your social skills, gives you an opportunity to be creative and earn some extra cash and develops your musical insight. Of course, it can be an addiction too; anything can be.

    Still, being MMOG-hardcore is - as much as I myself am a passionate player - a total waste of time. You sit - fat and lazy - in your chair staring at a 19" square talking to people you don't really know achieving things that will be gone and forgotten within years. Oh and yea, you can pretty much start flaming away with "yea, it needs tactics", and "yea, I'm talking to people over ventrillo" or "I met the love of my life ingame."

    But still, dude, it's a runnaway illusion world... something drives people to center their lives around a computer game, and its not at all normal or healthy. Wasting time for recreation is perfectly and absolutely normal. To recharge after the everyday challenges of reality. But if you skip the "everyday", the "challenges", hell, even the "reality" part, it becomes sick, end of story.



    Meridion



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  • ClaudeFRClaudeFR Member Posts: 376

    Im not sure if this is an exploit or not (im not using it anyway), i would call it more "cheating".

    How is it working ? Very easy:
    You get grouped and you gain experience. You dont need to be on the keyboard, you can go to bed. You dont need to hit the mob, you dont need to even stay in range, you get XP from the group just for being grouped.

    That explains why they are highlevel with just a few NPC kills.
    That explains as well, why they "leveljump":
    They dont train while grouped and in bed.
    But when the player wakes up in the morning and trains, he has so much XP that he is jumping directly from level 6 to (eg.) 9.
    Thats why the history is "leveljumping" - and thats the most reliable proof for such cheating.

    Im writing this here cuz it:
    a) Needs to get published. Published cheats are the fastest corrected/fixed.
    b) Same condition for everyone. An andvantage is no advantage anymore when every1 can use it.

    Should i (you) use it?
    You cup of tea...i dont do things like this cause its simply not helping me, its taking away my personal fun i get when leveling together with other peoples like intended.


    What is astounding me is the fact, that this is even possible.
    Brad comes from EQ-II, he knows the business and he knows such "flaws" in design (esp. when SWG and EQ-II had the EXACT same problems!!!).

    That he didnt address such flaws and kept them unfixed and released Vanguard against all better knowing - that is simply astounding me. I mean, this man is no noob not knowing better, but still he is releasing it like the latter...ASTOUNDING !

    Claude

  • AramanuAramanu Member Posts: 157
    Didn't read the thread whole but, i'd thought i'd mention that the vanguard players website is extremely bugged, take everything on there with a pince of salt atm, how i know this because my guild mate char had a crit hit over 1 million according to the site, which is impossible for a lvl 11 char.
  • CymdaiCymdai Member UncommonPosts: 1,043
    Originally posted by ClaudeFR


    Im not sure if this is an exploit or not (im not using it anyway), i would call it more "cheating".
    How is it working ? Very easy:

    You get grouped and you gain experience. You dont need to be on the keyboard, you can go to bed. You dont need to hit the mob, you dont need to even stay in range, you get XP from the group just for being grouped.
    That explains why they are highlevel with just a few NPC kills.

    That explains as well, why they "leveljump":

    They dont train while grouped and in bed.

    But when the player wakes up in the morning and trains, he has so much XP that he is jumping directly from level 6 to (eg.) 9.

    Thats why the history is "leveljumping" - and thats the most reliable proof for such cheating.
    Im writing this here cuz it:

    a) Needs to get published. Published cheats are the fastest corrected/fixed.

    b) Same condition for everyone. An andvantage is no advantage anymore when every1 can use it.
    Should i (you) use it?

    You cup of tea...i dont do things like this cause its simply not helping me, its taking away my personal fun i get when leveling together with other peoples like intended.


    What is astounding me is the fact, that this is even possible.

    Brad comes from EQ-II, he knows the business and he knows such "flaws" in design (esp. when SWG and EQ-II had the EXACT same problems!!!).
    That he didnt address such flaws and kept them unfixed and released Vanguard against all better knowing - that is simply astounding me. I mean, this man is no noob not knowing better, but still he is releasing it like the latter...ASTOUNDING !
    Bingo.



    Those guys don't all have to be playing all the time. As you said, they'll get that exp for staying logged in.



    Have 2-3 guys fighting, while the others AFK, and they can constantly and rapidly gain exp, even if they're not there.



    It's pretty much 1 step below botting, so it's not cheating, but it is taking advantage of a poorly designed system.

    Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...

  • RecantRecant Member UncommonPosts: 1,586
    Originally posted by Cymdai

    Originally posted by ClaudeFR


    Im not sure if this is an exploit or not (im not using it anyway), i would call it more "cheating".
    How is it working ? Very easy:

    You get grouped and you gain experience. You dont need to be on the keyboard, you can go to bed. You dont need to hit the mob, you dont need to even stay in range, you get XP from the group just for being grouped.
    That explains why they are highlevel with just a few NPC kills.

    That explains as well, why they "leveljump":

    They dont train while grouped and in bed.

    But when the player wakes up in the morning and trains, he has so much XP that he is jumping directly from level 6 to (eg.) 9.

    Thats why the history is "leveljumping" - and thats the most reliable proof for such cheating.
    Im writing this here cuz it:

    a) Needs to get published. Published cheats are the fastest corrected/fixed.

    b) Same condition for everyone. An andvantage is no advantage anymore when every1 can use it.
    Should i (you) use it?

    You cup of tea...i dont do things like this cause its simply not helping me, its taking away my personal fun i get when leveling together with other peoples like intended.


    What is astounding me is the fact, that this is even possible.

    Brad comes from EQ-II, he knows the business and he knows such "flaws" in design (esp. when SWG and EQ-II had the EXACT same problems!!!).
    That he didnt address such flaws and kept them unfixed and released Vanguard against all better knowing - that is simply astounding me. I mean, this man is no noob not knowing better, but still he is releasing it like the latter...ASTOUNDING !
    Bingo.



    Those guys don't all have to be playing all the time. As you said, they'll get that exp for staying logged in.



    Have 2-3 guys fighting, while the others AFK, and they can constantly and rapidly gain exp, even if they're not there.



    It's pretty much 1 step below botting, so it's not cheating, but it is taking advantage of a poorly designed system.

    Have either of you PLAYED Vanguard? This is NOT how it works, at all.  I have been playing with some of the fastest levelling people in the game, and there's nothing buggy about it, it just comes down to years of experience with extremely similar MMOs, and the lucky ability to put life on hold for a week or two.



    The stuff about exploits you post is crap.  Yes there are probably a couple of exploits that slipped the cracks, but thats usually slightly overpowered abilities or abilities not working the way they should, but nothing CLOSE to the scale you describe.



    There is no "training" for levelling, you ding automatically. You certainly do not earn exp when out of range (faction works tho), and if you are in range that experience gets DIVIDED among the party - which if everyone is AFK are low level group mobs at best.



    So take your "poorly designed system" nonsense away. Fellowships, when implemented, won't work the way you describe either.

    Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...

  • ReklawReklaw Member UncommonPosts: 6,495

    Fastleveling, grind, lvl XX in XX days WOOHAAA......., i do wonder if some of you actualy played mmorpg's atleast thats not the way i thought mmorpg where ment to be played, why is it that most comments reflect singleplayer game behaviour, i was hoping (and still am)that Vanguard would leave out that sort of playstyle. I mean seriously apart from some being grouped they not even getting into the basic of mmorpg.......""YOOHHOOO i'm at end game in XX day's NOw i can finaly say on forums end game suck"" i mean why even play mmorpg if you all consurned to rush to the end game, afcourse each his own playstyle, but try to stay true to the genre of mmorpg, don't make it a singleplayer game with online co-op functionality's.

    Just my opinion

  • WaimzeyWaimzey Member Posts: 1
    Lol..



    The level skipping near Ksaravi Gulch was a VGPlayers database error or something. Not sure how it happened, but I can assure you all that we made our levels just as everyone else makes theirs.



    We took 2 weeks off at the start of the game, call it a vacation if you will, from School/Work/Social Engagements.

    Playing these games through as fast as possible is just part of the fun of it for us. It's not like we sit around all day, everyday, and live on our computers. We did take the time needed offline to finish this game, and then went back to our regular lives. (Though the grind was far harsher than we anticipated, so the last 15 levels were very slow considering that most of us had to go back to School/Work)



    I myself am a 20 year old Junior at MTSU. I work 30 hours a week at Cedarvine manor. It's a premiere events facility near my house.

    All it took was getting my work for the next 2 weeks beforehand from school and finishing it before the grind started and taking a 2 week break from work. It was that easy. The rest was commiting myself to 18Hour on/6 hour sleep for 2 weeks straight.



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