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Best MMORPG available
anarchyart
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Even with all it's bugs and high system requirements, Vanguard is still the best MMORPG available in my opinion.
With the amount of classes, races, massive world which dwarfs any other mmorpg, adventuring crafting and diplomacy spheres, craftable boats, player housing, NO INSTANCES--not ONE, all kinds of mounts from land based to flying, innovative combat and encounter systems, Vanguard will never leave you bored.
There are lots of MMORPG's out there and lots of really great ones. However, I could not ever go back to any other MMORPG. It would feel like playing Super Nintendo when I have an Xbox 360 in the house. That is what I think of Vanguard. It's not perfect, it's just the best.
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It also has unbridled potential that the developers plan to make use of by expanding the game to include stuff like battleground PvP and ship to ship fighting.
Wow Anar and to think, you and I used to make fun of people that would blindly come out and make comments like this, now look at you?
But yeah no, sorry, I absolutely dissagree with you.
For me, just my oppinion, Vanugard is no where near the best MMO out there, personally it's not even top 5. That doesn't mean it's bad at all, matter of fact I'm actually very much so enjoying it right now. But for the average gamer that has better things to do then to put up with poorly thought out game mechanics, bugs and crappy performance, it's just not the way to go.
Maybe in a year or two, it'll get there but as of right now, no way. Not for me anyways.
On another note though, Vanguard certainly has turned out some crazed fanatics, I think I've actually had a better time reading you guys post more then I've actually enjoyed the game. Keep it up
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And yet for some reason, with all it's problems, it's the MMO you happen to be playing right now.....
Im bringin sexy back.
Shae, your posts are wonderful! Every one of them. Just thought I'd say that because I'm THAT impressed. They always have this intelligence and maturity in them, keep it up!
Im bringin sexy back.
Absolutely
Like I said, the game isn't bad but by no means the best out there. And I'll be the first to tell anyone, if the major faults are not at least starting to get fixed within the month, I'm out of there.
Just because I'm enjoying something though, does not mean I can't see it's faults, nor will I accuse someone of being a "WoWer" for doing so.
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Absolutely
Like I said, the game isn't bad but by no means the best out there. And I'll be the first to tell anyone, if the major faults are not at least starting to get fixed within the month, I'm out of there.
Just because I'm enjoying something though, does not mean I can't see it's faults, nor will I accuse someone of being a "WoWer" for doing so.
I too can see its faults, yet I still could not play any other mmorpg. Since it's not the best, what would you say is the best and why are you not playing that?
City of Villains is ahead of Vanguard of at least 5 years, design-wise.
Despite been a superhero MMO, it somehow have much more subscribers than Vanguard who is a fantasy game.
City of Villains:
- Encourage grouping, never enforce it
- Solo is good, grouping is great
- Customisation.
- Instancing allow you to do your mission with a close-knit group, in private, with no artificial respawn.
- Travels powers are FUN and not removing anything from travelling except the tedius part.
- More power diversity than Vanguard, which has how many class? Here we are talking of 5 AT X about 5 primary X about 5 secondaries X secondaries/epic...the variation is enormous.
Even with raid-free servers Vanguard would be backward, yet I would have try it post-beta, but there is no point in trying an inferior game that ends miserably.
- Flame away Vanbois, but I am not afraid to answer your empty claims...
- LACK of instancing is an inferiority, as it lead to players competing and been harsh, I even see peoples fighting for spawn areas in CoV once, they just didn't understand it was pointless, they have been trained and schooled by the wrong MMOs, re-educating them lead them to a lot of happiness as they realize that camping was pointless, it was automatically respawning without the need to clean it dimwittly, you just run around and it respawn automatically.
- seemless is pointless if the traveling isn't fun or if it bring lag...
- raiding endgame, ROFL.
- Enforced grouping is inferior to encouraged grouping.
- Many of the players attracted to Vanguard are the worst I know, in this sense I am thankful to Vanguard for taking the trash out of the other MMOs. *wave FoH/AL/LoS*
Vanguard is among the worst MMOs out there, the only reason I was interested is...because I am a freaking achiever and there is a lot to achieve in the game...but it is pointless when it all end in raiding, which is un-achievement embodied. Achieving to reach un-achievement? Nonsense. Now, the market is filled with players who aren't achievers, having so much achievements isn't wise IMO; and the few achievers who might enjoy it will usually not enjoy how it end for 1 moment.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
ROFL yes that's it. CoV has no loot, therefore no me.
Uhhhhh.......wow.......let me think nice and long before I write about how stupid that was.....
What can you achieve in COH/COV? There is nothing, and I played COV for like 6 months during release. The world is dead, you cannot enter buildings unless its for a quest which all consist of the same 3 objectives. The classes are just 5 different types of ONE archtype. Basically you can be a Tank, or DPS the only difference being the animations of the powers. There were NO items...NONE...even if you are a fackin GADGETEER!!! If you carried a sword, you had that same sword throughout the entire game. BOOOOORRRRRIIIINGGGGG!!!
Travel powers were fun, but when you first got them they sucked beyond anything ever.
The ONLY good thing about COH/COV is character creation, beyond that its worthless.
Oh yeah, and your point about COV having more subscriptions is the stupidest thing I've ever heard....you do realize vanguard released 2 weeks ago right? COH/COV has been out for nearly 5 years.
That's alot like asking: What's the best movie ever? In the IMBD forums isn't it? You know exactly what your institigating but your doing it to try an prove a point... But you know exactly what the answer is, it's different for everyone.
My oppinion, for me, the MMO I've enjoyed the most and was the "best" for me, was between the original SWG and Lineage 2 for more reasons then I care to take the time to explain. Hovever, I feel the best game for the general public right now is WoW or EQ2, as they both have a very high value and quality to them.
And I actually am playing Lineage2, just not as much as I used too, it's good to try something new, as long as you can keep a level head about it...
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That's alot like asking: What's the best movie ever? In the IMBD forums isn't it? You know exactly what your institigating but your doing it to try an prove a point... But you know exactly what the answer is, it's different for everyone.
My oppinion, for me, the MMO I've enjoyed the most and was the "best" for me, was between the original SWG and Lineage 2 for more reasons then I care to take the time to explain. Hovever, I feel the best game for the general public right now is WoW or EQ2, as they both have a very high value and quality to them.
And I actually am playing Lineage2, just not as much as I used too, it's good to try something new, as long as you can keep a level head about it...
Ever consider being a politician? You're playing Vanguard, that's the real answer Shae. If you thought something else was better, that's where you'd be.
Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...
That's alot like asking: What's the best movie ever? In the IMBD forums isn't it? You know exactly what your institigating but your doing it to try an prove a point... But you know exactly what the answer is, it's different for everyone.
My oppinion, for me, the MMO I've enjoyed the most and was the "best" for me, was between the original SWG and Lineage 2 for more reasons then I care to take the time to explain. Hovever, I feel the best game for the general public right now is WoW or EQ2, as they both have a very high value and quality to them.
And I actually am playing Lineage2, just not as much as I used too, it's good to try something new, as long as you can keep a level head about it...
Ever consider being a politician? You're playing Vanguard, that's the real answer Shae. If you thought something else was better, that's where you'd be.
Wow yeah, probably the most close minded, dissmisive response I've ever seen come from you.
No Anarchyart, don't "assume" you know me or what's in my head or my intentions, because you don't. Unlike you, I can keep an open mind to something without thinking it's the end all and be all.
The REAL answer is, I do think something is better and AM playing it, that does not mean I think the world of MMO's ends there, I want and enjoy experience something new and different.
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That's alot like asking: What's the best movie ever? In the IMBD forums isn't it? You know exactly what your institigating but your doing it to try an prove a point... But you know exactly what the answer is, it's different for everyone.
My oppinion, for me, the MMO I've enjoyed the most and was the "best" for me, was between the original SWG and Lineage 2 for more reasons then I care to take the time to explain. Hovever, I feel the best game for the general public right now is WoW or EQ2, as they both have a very high value and quality to them.
And I actually am playing Lineage2, just not as much as I used too, it's good to try something new, as long as you can keep a level head about it...
Ever consider being a politician? You're playing Vanguard, that's the real answer Shae. If you thought something else was better, that's where you'd be.
Wow yeah, probably the most close minded, dissmisive response I've ever seen come from you.
No Anarchyart, don't "assume" you know me or what's in my head or my intentions, because you don't. Unlike you, I can keep an open mind to something without thinking it's the end all and be all.
The REAL answer is, I do think something is better and AM playing it, that does not mean I think the world of MMO's ends there, I want and enjoy experience something new and different.
I enjoy your avatar....because.....well because there are boobies it in.Wow yeah, probably the most close minded, dissmisive response I've ever seen come from you.
No Anarchyart, don't "assume" you know me or what's in my head or my intentions, because you don't. Unlike you, I can keep an open mind to something without thinking it's the end all and be all.
The REAL answer is, I do think something is better and AM playing it, that does not mean I think the world of MMO's ends there, I want and enjoy experience something new and different.
Easy now. Yes I got you, but you don't have to get mad. I don't think Vanguard is the end all be all, you're trying to put words in my mouth. What I think, is that it's the best available game right now. Might that change? Almost certainly, but we're both playing Vanguard despite it being launched early and it's lack of polish. Surely that says a lot for the game itself.
Glad you're enjoying Vanguard, don't let closed minded, dismissive persons like myself ruin it for you.
Vanguard is the best game out there... for certain people.
For many others it would be an unfun, crushing grind.
No one MMO is best for everyone....they all cater to a target market.
And they all usually have features that make them stand out from other games.....
Seeing Vanguard people troll forums with cheerleading posts is highly annoying...
Two trolls don't make a right.....
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Not going to happen though is it?
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Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...
Is there some geneological disease that makes you want to press enter after every sentence? Usually people will do that to lend some extra emphasis to what they are posting. Yeah, never works.
CoH/CoV been out for 5 years!?!Um http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/gameId/0 has CoH at 04/27/04 an CoV at 10/31/05 now my math skills are poor but that dont equal 5 years.Maybe your thinking of the 5 years devlopment of Vanguard ?Cause Anofalye said "City of Villians is ahead of Vanguard of at least 5 years,design-wise.Not time wise.
Rest what ya say about CoH/CoV is a intresting opinion .But opinions do not = fact.Their are Buildings you can go into thats not instanced.Only thing that i can see you said that is factual is if you carry a mace , or sword its same one threw out the game.But that is actualy comic book like .Thors hammer didnt change because of costums, black knights sword didnt change Captian America's sheild didn't change etc etc.
Anarchyart did state it was his opinion that Vanguard was the best mmorpg out atm. He just didnt say for him.Leaveing that out makes it sound well trashing everything else.Yeah the no loot thing in COh/CoV thing threw me for while to.Their is items sorta but its not the same as what Vanguard has or Eq1 by far.
Um comparing the sub numbers doesnt tell the whole story.Then again pining ones hopes for a game on future developement is the half empty glass ,an is not fun.Reading some these threads tho is.
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Wow yeah, probably the most close minded, dissmisive response I've ever seen come from you.
No Anarchyart, don't "assume" you know me or what's in my head or my intentions, because you don't. Unlike you, I can keep an open mind to something without thinking it's the end all and be all.
The REAL answer is, I do think something is better and AM playing it, that does not mean I think the world of MMO's ends there, I want and enjoy experience something new and different.
Easy now. Yes I got you, but you don't have to get mad. I don't think Vanguard is the end all be all, you're trying to put words in my mouth. What I think, is that it's the best available game right now. Might that change? Almost certainly, but we're both playing Vanguard despite it being launched early and it's lack of polish. Surely that says a lot for the game itself.
Glad you're enjoying Vanguard, don't let closed minded, dismissive persons like myself ruin it for you.
You should know me better than that by now Anarchyart, I don't get mad at petty things like what your trying to do, I'm sooooooooo over those childish forums days. And honestly, I don't need you to give me persmission to enjoy myself
No, my only concern was that you've gone from a forum goer I used to actually enjoy reading, go out of my way to read actually and respect quite a bit, to turning into a fanbois who actually thinks less of others who don't agree with him. Might I even say that this seems quite indicative of current community that's in the game itself, maybe you have indeed found your true home Anachyart, shame it's brought out the worse in you.
As always though, I certainly wish you all the best fun in the world in Vanguard or any other game, because that's what they are no? Games. So long as your having fun, who cares whether its' the best out there or not.
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