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Vanguard - On Fire and falling from the sky!

Well, Tonight is the 2nd night in a row I can't seem to do anything with this game. I was very hopefull that this emergency patch would fix a lot of issue I had with crossing chunks and getting kicked.

 

Seems like this emergency patch on prime time was an emergency nerf. Beta was more stable. Seriously. I really want this game to work out. I like it very much. It's on fire and heading nose down into the ground. They need to communicate a little bit more otherwise it's time to jump and take the last parachute.

Long live he Vision!

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  • nynnivanynniva Member UncommonPosts: 235

    /sign lol

    Gaming? That's not gaming!
    That's just people sat 'round in costumes drinking...

  • Deathstrike2Deathstrike2 Member UncommonPosts: 1,777
    And not having real official forums just adds to the problems in my opinion.  Good game when you look beyond the bugs, but Sigil is starting to seem clueless.
  • grapegrape Member Posts: 191

    EQ1 was a fluke. Right game at the right time. I don't think they have what it takes beyond world/lore creation to do another MMORPG.

     

    They make interesting worlds, just can't figure out how to keep a customer informed, and destined to repeat the same mistakes EQ1 had, and improvise new ones!

  • dorobudorobu Member Posts: 80
    Yeah. I wish they had real forums for you guys to bitch on. Then maybe we'd get some useful topics around here.

    -doro

  • nynnivanynniva Member UncommonPosts: 235

    I think they 'archived' the Sigil boards PRECISELY BECAUSE the changes they are making are destined to cause customer distress and this is one way of ignoring the issue.

    Gaming? That's not gaming!
    That's just people sat 'round in costumes drinking...

  • magarrmagarr Member Posts: 8
    pwnT.
  • Deathstrike2Deathstrike2 Member UncommonPosts: 1,777
    Originally posted by dorobu

    Yeah. I wish they had real forums for you guys to bitch on. Then maybe we'd get some useful topics around here.

    Believe me, if they had them, I'd be there.  I've said a lot of good for the game, and I stand by it.  But there comes a time when "bitching" is justified.  That time for me is tonight.  My main is broke.  My remaining alts looks are borked.  I am getting random kicks back to character select about once every five minutes.  The devs have posted they have no clue why this is happening and no ETA.  So, in closing, if my bitching is annoying you, I guess that's your problem. 

  • nynnivanynniva Member UncommonPosts: 235


    Originally posted by Deathstrike2
    Originally posted by dorobu
    Yeah. I wish they had real forums for you guys to bitch on. Then maybe we'd get some useful topics around here.
    Believe me, if they had them, I'd be there.  I've said a lot of good for the game, and I stand by it.  But there comes a time when "bitching" is justified.  That time for me is tonight.  My main is broke.  My remaining alts looks are borked.  I am getting random kicks back to character select about once every five minutes.  The devs have posted they have no clue why this is happening and no ETA.  So, in closing, if my bitching is annoying you, I guess that's your problem. 

    And for those of us who CAN play, we log in after a primetime emergency patch to find our characters useless. I'm also one of the people who stood by this game and against my better judgement bought it at release, KNOWING there would be connectivity issues, KNOWING there would be item loss and xp loss and all that jazz. I can accept all of that. I don't MIND paying for a beta test, I dutifully submit my /bug reports several times a day, trying to help make the game better.

    But Sigil's priorities are out of line here. Now is the time to fix the issues that make the game unplayable. It isn't the time to bring down the servers during PRIME TIME to put in extreme class nerfs. It just wasn't necessary.

    Gaming? That's not gaming!
    That's just people sat 'round in costumes drinking...

  • dorobudorobu Member Posts: 80
    What good does bitching on these forums do? Nothing. You just spam up this forum with yet another generic complaint. Just post on another thread. Don't start a new one. There are plenty! Thanks.

    -doro

  • grapegrape Member Posts: 191

    The complaint seems very specific if you ask me. These games are supposed to enjoyable. So far it seems there's more gameplay on the fansite forums. At least we can log into them.

    Jeff Buttler had an interview on Gamespy. Why does it feel like with this latest patch it's 180 degrees from what he tooted? He must be too busy playing BC. Prime time emergency fix was nothing but a prime time nerf strike. Where was the emergency fix? 

  • PkpiePkpie Member CommonPosts: 18
    I think the game is a complete train wreck.  One giant nerfed grind fest that crashes all the time and has poor animation.
  • Deathstrike2Deathstrike2 Member UncommonPosts: 1,777
    Originally posted by dorobu

    What good does bitching on these forums do? Nothing. You just spam up this forum with yet another generic complaint. Just post on another thread. Don't start a new one. There are plenty! Thanks.

    Hopefully Sigil actually visits the forums of the fan sites.  I hope they are very aware of the number of complaint posts on these sites.  By not having their own forums, they're not getting direct customer feedback.  That leads to them doing stupid things that the players don't like or want. 

    The thread titles in the "bitching" posts are usually pretty self explanatory.  If you don't want to read them, don't click them.  It's really not complicated.

  • godpuppetgodpuppet Member Posts: 1,416
    Wow, just wow! In all my months of sceptism over this game, I am shocked!

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  • nynnivanynniva Member UncommonPosts: 235

    I agree. SoE/Sigil has archived the Vanguard forums and ushered everyone off to the fansites. I submit my /bug reports like a good beta tester ( oh wait...) but the only real way to get an idea of community feed back and see if others are having the same issues is on the boards. Especially since in-game chat functionality is wonky at best, assuming you can connect at all.

    Gaming? That's not gaming!
    That's just people sat 'round in costumes drinking...

  • NevarionNevarion Member Posts: 274
    Originally posted by godpuppet

    Wow, just wow! In all my months of sceptism over this game, I am shocked!
    Likewise.
  • nynnivanynniva Member UncommonPosts: 235

    Yes, Vanguard forums at SoE with two topics you can post in.

    1 : Website Feedback
    2 : Technical Support

    Okay.

    Gaming? That's not gaming!
    That's just people sat 'round in costumes drinking...

  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by nynniva
    Yes, Vanguard forums at SoE with two topics you can post in. 1 : Website Feedback
    2 : Technical SupportOkay.

    Isn't technical support what you're looking for?

    If that's not what you're looking for isn't that what the feedback portion is for?

  • Deathstrike2Deathstrike2 Member UncommonPosts: 1,777
    Originally posted by Copeland


     

    Originally posted by Deathstrike2


    Originally posted by dorobu

    Yeah. I wish they had real forums for you guys to bitch on. Then maybe we'd get some useful topics around here.
    Believe me, if they had them, I'd be there.  I've said a lot of good for the game, and I stand by it.  But there comes a time when "bitching" is justified.  That time for me is tonight.  My main is broke.  My remaining alts looks are borked.  I am getting random kicks back to character select about once every five minutes.  The devs have posted they have no clue why this is happening and no ETA.  So, in closing, if my bitching is annoying you, I guess that's your problem. 


     

    Really if i take the 20 seconds to find the official Vanguard forums you'll stfu and go whine there?

    Vanguard official forums at SOE NOW STFU!

    took me 20 seconds to do this.. lazy bastages

    If you could take your lips off Sigil's ass long enough, you'd get a clue that maybe, just maybe, they're not perfect, and that it's okay to talk about the bad along with the good.  I'll tell you what....you pay my $14.99 a month, and I'll STFU.  Until then, why don't you take you're own advice?  The way I see it, whining is when you bitch for no reason.  My character is broke...I have a reason.  You're just bitching to hear yourself bitch.  Now who's the whiner?



  • NevarionNevarion Member Posts: 274
    Originally posted by Copeland


     

    Originally posted by Deathstrike2


    Originally posted by dorobu

    Yeah. I wish they had real forums for you guys to bitch on. Then maybe we'd get some useful topics around here.
    Believe me, if they had them, I'd be there.  I've said a lot of good for the game, and I stand by it.  But there comes a time when "bitching" is justified.  That time for me is tonight.  My main is broke.  My remaining alts looks are borked.  I am getting random kicks back to character select about once every five minutes.  The devs have posted they have no clue why this is happening and no ETA.  So, in closing, if my bitching is annoying you, I guess that's your problem. 


    Really if i take the 20 seconds to find the official Vanguard forums you'll stfu and go whine there?

    Vanguard official forums at SOE NOW STFU!

    took me 20 seconds to do this.. lazy bastages

    Took me like 5 seconds to find it http://forums.vanguardsoh.com/index.php



    I'll even quote for ya:



    The official Vanguard: Saga of Heroes forums are now closed. For Vanguard discussion, please visit one of the affiliate fan sites. Thank you!
  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by Nevarion
    Originally posted by Copeland  

    Originally posted by Deathstrike2

    Originally posted by dorobu
    Yeah. I wish they had real forums for you guys to bitch on. Then maybe we'd get some useful topics around here.
    Believe me, if they had them, I'd be there.  I've said a lot of good for the game, and I stand by it.  But there comes a time when "bitching" is justified.  That time for me is tonight.  My main is broke.  My remaining alts looks are borked.  I am getting random kicks back to character select about once every five minutes.  The devs have posted they have no clue why this is happening and no ETA.  So, in closing, if my bitching is annoying you, I guess that's your problem. 



    Really if i take the 20 seconds to find the official Vanguard forums you'll stfu and go whine there?
    Vanguard official forums at SOE NOW STFU!
    took me 20 seconds to do this.. lazy bastages

    Took me like 5 seconds to find it http://forums.vanguardsoh.com/index.php

    I'll even quote for ya:

    The official Vanguard: Saga of Heroes forums are now closed. For Vanguard discussion, please visit one of the affiliate fan sites. Thank you!


    That's over a month old. SOE has put up forums. I'm sure they'll evolve quickly due to demand. Give them some feedback and let them know what you want.

    Or just continue to piss and moan and do nothing productive.

  • NevarionNevarion Member Posts: 274
    I rest my case.
  • Deathstrike2Deathstrike2 Member UncommonPosts: 1,777
    Originally posted by Copeland


     

    Originally posted by Nevarion


    Originally posted by Copeland
     
     





    Originally posted by Deathstrike2




    Originally posted by dorobu

    Yeah. I wish they had real forums for you guys to bitch on. Then maybe we'd get some useful topics around here.


    Believe me, if they had them, I'd be there.  I've said a lot of good for the game, and I stand by it.  But there comes a time when "bitching" is justified.  That time for me is tonight.  My main is broke.  My remaining alts looks are borked.  I am getting random kicks back to character select about once every five minutes.  The devs have posted they have no clue why this is happening and no ETA.  So, in closing, if my bitching is annoying you, I guess that's your problem. 

     

     





    Really if i take the 20 seconds to find the official Vanguard forums you'll stfu and go whine there?

    Vanguard official forums at SOE NOW STFU!

    took me 20 seconds to do this.. lazy bastages



    Took me like 5 seconds to find it http://forums.vanguardsoh.com/index.php

     

    I'll even quote for ya:

    The official Vanguard: Saga of Heroes forums are now closed. For Vanguard discussion, please visit one of the affiliate fan sites. Thank you!


     

    That's over a month old. SOE has put up forums. I'm sure they'll evolve quickly due to demand. Give them some feedback and let them know what you want.

    Or just continue to piss and moan and do nothing productive.

    This was edited at 2:59 today on the official site: 

    "Greetings!



    For those searching for the best way to get your feedback to the dev team, or wish to discuss their play experience with other players you can visit our Affiliated Fansites which are listed here: http://www.vgplayers.com/links.vm



    The entire Sigil team visits these forums and posts regularly and will on occasion share information about upcoming changes and features. For important posts we will news them on our main website at: http://www.vgplayers.com



    We feel community operated forums are the best way for our community to communicate their issues and ideas with us, we don't expect everyone to monitor every fansite, and that is why we will make sure that all important information is shared on the main news site.



    So choose a site that's right for you, all affiliates are required not to display Secondary Market (Gold/Power-leveling advertisements) and work closely with our community team to get answers to their communities questions.



    For bugs in game we recommend the use of /bug, this will ensure that your bug reaches the proper destination, and is also convenient and doesn't require you to minimize or exit your game.



    Thank you everyone and see you in Telon!





    - The Vanguard Team



    Message edited by ElrarSGO on 02/07/2007 14:59:55. "

     

    Now, why don't you quit pissing and moaning about us posting here?  We're doing what the devs have asked us to do. 



  • KcissemKcissem Member Posts: 276
    Originally posted by Deathstrike2

    Originally posted by Copeland


     

    Originally posted by Nevarion


    Originally posted by Copeland
     
     





    Originally posted by Deathstrike2




    Originally posted by dorobu

    Yeah. I wish they had real forums for you guys to bitch on. Then maybe we'd get some useful topics around here.


    Believe me, if they had them, I'd be there.  I've said a lot of good for the game, and I stand by it.  But there comes a time when "bitching" is justified.  That time for me is tonight.  My main is broke.  My remaining alts looks are borked.  I am getting random kicks back to character select about once every five minutes.  The devs have posted they have no clue why this is happening and no ETA.  So, in closing, if my bitching is annoying you, I guess that's your problem. 

     

     





    Really if i take the 20 seconds to find the official Vanguard forums you'll stfu and go whine there?

    Vanguard official forums at SOE NOW STFU!

    took me 20 seconds to do this.. lazy bastages



    Took me like 5 seconds to find it http://forums.vanguardsoh.com/index.php

     

    I'll even quote for ya:

    The official Vanguard: Saga of Heroes forums are now closed. For Vanguard discussion, please visit one of the affiliate fan sites. Thank you!


     

    That's over a month old. SOE has put up forums. I'm sure they'll evolve quickly due to demand. Give them some feedback and let them know what you want.

    Or just continue to piss and moan and do nothing productive.

    This was edited at 2:59 today on the official site: 

    "Greetings!



    For those searching for the best way to get your feedback to the dev team, or wish to discuss their play experience with other players you can visit our Affiliated Fansites which are listed here: http://www.vgplayers.com/links.vm



    The entire Sigil team visits these forums and posts regularly and will on occasion share information about upcoming changes and features. For important posts we will news them on our main website at: http://www.vgplayers.com



    We feel community operated forums are the best way for our community to communicate their issues and ideas with us, we don't expect everyone to monitor every fansite, and that is why we will make sure that all important information is shared on the main news site.



    So choose a site that's right for you, all affiliates are required not to display Secondary Market (Gold/Power-leveling advertisements) and work closely with our community team to get answers to their communities questions.



    For bugs in game we recommend the use of /bug, this will ensure that your bug reaches the proper destination, and is also convenient and doesn't require you to minimize or exit your game.



    Thank you everyone and see you in Telon!





    - The Vanguard Team



    Message edited by ElrarSGO on 02/07/2007 14:59:55. "

     

    Now, why don't you quit pissing and moaning about us posting here?  We're doing what the devs have asked us to do. 




    you are not doing what the devs asked you to do, the devs asked to post on AFFILIATED sites,  mmorpg.com is not a affiliated site with vanguard dude. not bitching just stating the obvious.
  • olddaddyolddaddy Member Posts: 3,356
    However MMORPG site forums are viewed by consumers looking for new games, and looking to compare games. Some may even be interested in Vanguard and are monitoring the progress to decide whether/when they should purchase. Maybe they are interested in reading Vanguard threads here, so maybe it's okay to post the bitching about the game here. Just a thought mate, there are two sides to every coin. If you only want to read the positive Vanguard post, then skip the negative criticism posts.
  • KcissemKcissem Member Posts: 276
    Originally posted by olddaddy

    However MMORPG site forums are viewed by consumers looking for new games, and looking to compare games. Some may even be interested in Vanguard and are monitoring the progress to decide whether/when they should purchase. Maybe they are interested in reading Vanguard threads here, so maybe it's okay to post the bitching about the game here. Just a thought mate, there are two sides to every coin. If you only want to read the positive Vanguard post, then skip the negative criticism posts.

     

    Personally i enjoy reading the negative comments cuz 2 thirds of them seem to be completely made up or way over exxagerated by some die hard haters.  It obvious the game needs some work still but it is not anywhere near as bad as some people complain it is.  There have been far worse mmo's released thats been more buggy than vanguard.  One of them even went on to have 8 million subscribers.

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