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The problem i have with this game...

Veiled_lightVeiled_light Member UncommonPosts: 855

It just doesn't feel alive and the art used in game just feels bland and boring, dead almost. The UI is horrid looking too and i just don't understand how they can make a LOTR game just feel bland. The art drawn up looks great but then you see it in game and its like *yawn EQ2* example: http://lotro.turbine.com/article/264

 

Then they could have done sooo much more with the LOTR franchise but instead it just feels sooo wrong and sooo disappointing...

 

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  • Batak_KillerBatak_Killer Member UncommonPosts: 399

    First: NDA warning

    Second: i hope that by "lotr franchise" you mean the books not the films, cuz the films were the ultimate shit (cmon CMON  you peter jackson butt lickers im waiting....)

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  • Originally posted by Batak_Killer


    First: NDA warning
    Second: i hope that by "lotr franchise" you mean the books not the films, cuz the films were the ultimate shit (cmon CMON  you peter jackson butt lickers im waiting....)
    I did not like the movies either, but still, try to behave a little more mature when expressing your opinion.
  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    Sounds like the OP just doesn't like the game. Whatcha gonna do? There is a wave of new titles releasing this year that look promising, set your target on something else, I don't think LotR's is gonna be a good match for you. Sounds like you set your opinion, lock and stock.

    I thought the movies where ok in the visual sense, the battles where great and I enjoyed some of the portrail of the books.. but, nah...it didn't "feel" the same as the books. They were just movies, what do you expect? Nothing can replace a good book.

    One thing the OP doesn't take into consideration is the fact most modern western fantasy MMO games are loosly based on LotR's. Hell, even some asian. Ever see the Elf starter area in Lineage II? Looks like the movies, even has music thats close to the LotR's soundtrack lol. EQ was based on standard fantasy lore (D&D) which all goes back to Tolkien. EQII was only a refinement of EQ so obviously its based on the standard modern western fantasy "ideal". Its the same thing thats happening to Wahammer. Everyone is screeming "clone" at  War because of looks but because many MMOers are 'tunnel visioned" they don't realize WoW originally took its looks from Warhammer and that Warhammer and its art style has been around for over 25 years.

  • KhalathwyrKhalathwyr Member UncommonPosts: 3,133
    Originally posted by Torak


    Sounds like the OP just doesn't like the game. Whatcha gonna do? There is a wave of new titles releasing this year that look promising, set your target on something else, I don't think LotR's is gonna be a good match for you. Sounds like you set your opinion, lock and stock.
    I thought the movies where ok in the visual sense, the battles where great and I enjoyed some of the portrail of the books.. but, nah...it didn't "feel" the same as the books. They were just movies, what do you expect? Nothing can replace a good book.
    Except....THREE GOOD BOOKS of the trilogy variety!!! *loud gonging sound* HA HA HA *hic*

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  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Originally posted by Veiled_light


    It just doesn't feel alive and the art used in game just feels bland and boring, dead almost. The UI is horrid looking too and i just don't understand how they can make a LOTR game just feel bland. The art drawn up looks great but then you see it in game and its like *yawn EQ2* example: http://lotro.turbine.com/article/264
     
    Then they could have done sooo much more with the LOTR franchise but instead it just feels sooo wrong and sooo disappointing...
     



    I guess everyone will have a chance to see for theirself when the public open beta starts Apr 06, but to me EQII was nothing but shades of green and brown with avatars with plastic looking hair. Going by these screenies from the official site, LoTRO looks pretty colorful and alive

    I miss DAoC

  • Batak_KillerBatak_Killer Member UncommonPosts: 399
    Originally posted by Acephalia

    Originally posted by Batak_Killer


    First: NDA warning
    Second: i hope that by "lotr franchise" you mean the books not the films, cuz the films were the ultimate shit (cmon CMON  you peter jackson butt lickers im waiting....)
    I did not like the movies either, but still, try to behave a little more mature when expressing your opinion.point taken

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  • Veiled_lightVeiled_light Member UncommonPosts: 855
    NDA warning? I've not been in beta : Everything i've seen is from fansites and official site.
  • GrindalyxGrindalyx Member UncommonPosts: 657
    If you have not played the game how in the world can you make that kind of judgement? It is beyond me how anyone can judge something they have not played yet. When the open beta starts you need to play it and then you can make a sound judgement of this game based on the experience of actuallly playing it.

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  • beezeebeezee Member Posts: 149
    Originally posted by Veiled_light

    NDA warning? I've not been in beta : Everything i've seen is from fansites and official site.


    GOOD GOD MAN!!!!





    You're basing your opinion of how a game "feels" off of still shots from websites!???



    That's like taking the movie poster from say;  Star Wars or any other action movie and saying "well it looks ok but kinda bland".

    You have no sound, no movement, no immersion!



    Sorry friend, but your credibility has just been shot in the ass!  Unbelievable!!!
  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905
    Originally posted by beezee

    Originally posted by Veiled_light

    NDA warning? I've not been in beta : Everything i've seen is from fansites and official site.


    GOOD GOD MAN!!!!





    You're basing your opinion of how a game "feels" off of still shots from websites!???



    That's like taking the movie poster from say;  Star Wars or any other action movie and saying "well it looks ok but kinda bland".

    You have no sound, no movement, no immersion!



    Sorry friend, but your credibility has just been shot in the ass!  Unbelievable!!!

    LMFAO......
  • Veiled_lightVeiled_light Member UncommonPosts: 855

    I was talking about the Art and the in game shots : I was talking about the UI i saw too. How does sceenshots and in game be any different?

     

    I'm not talking about gameplay :S

     

    dumbarse

  • beezeebeezee Member Posts: 149
    Originally posted by Veiled_light


    I was talking about the Art and the in game shots : I was talking about the UI i saw too. How does sceenshots and in game be any different?
     
    I'm not talking about gameplay :S
     
    dumbarse
    Dumbarse!!??



    Dude where do you get the brass gonads to call me dumbarse?



    You use the word "feel" something like three times in your short one paragraph writeup.  How you can get a true feel for a game or really anything for that matter by looking at a still shot is beyond me.



    Once again I'll use my analogy of a movie.  What would you rather do;  look at a movie poster OR go see the actual movie with all the sounds, dialog, plot and storyline unfolding before you?  Not withstanding the fact that you get to control the movie.



    As someone else mention a few posts back, it sounds like you have already made up your mind regarding this game and to be quite honest I really don't give a rat's arse.  But if you base your decisions solely predicated on a picture without ever experiencing it, then you my friend are going to lead a very sheltered life!



    Then who's the dumbarse?
  • boognish75boognish75 Member UncommonPosts: 1,540
    well, this just shows how haters migrate to the next coming game,

    playing eq2 and two worlds

  • KremlikKremlik Member UncommonPosts: 716
    I'm kinda speculating that it's basically DDO's 'skin' with a 'traditional' MMO system instead of PnP D&D, which TBH basically means 'if you want Roleplaying play DDO if you an MMO play LOTRO' in CM/Turbine's books

    Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Originally posted by Kremlik

    I'm kinda speculating that it's basically DDO's 'skin' with a 'traditional' MMO system instead of PnP D&D, which TBH basically means 'if you want Roleplaying play DDO if you an MMO play LOTRO' in CM/Turbine's books
    Don't  specualte or take anyones word. Wait till the public open beta, download it and find out for yourself what you think of the game. It may or may not be for you, that is a question only you can answer after you play it for a week or so.

    I miss DAoC

  • HarafnirHarafnir Member UncommonPosts: 1,350
    Originally posted by Batak_Killer


    First: NDA warning
    Second: i hope that by "lotr franchise" you mean the books not the films, cuz the films were the ultimate shit (cmon CMON  you peter jackson butt lickers im waiting....)

     

    No you are correct. Peter Jacksons Lord of the rings was a real crappy fantasy movie compared to its competitors in the fantasy genre, like Willow, Dragonheart and Dungeons and Dragons. yeah, those were the real fantasy movies, not some junk like LotR... *sigh* Thanks for a peek at your preferred taste...

    "This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
    It should be thrown with great force"

  • SonyaBlueSonyaBlue Member Posts: 12

    I dont know where on earth you are, but i just want you to know your sarcasm was felt in colorado, USA.

     

    BUT , I have to say Val rocked the Willow hard....

  • deltiordeltior Member UncommonPosts: 50
    Some really sad people are roaming in these forum... I wonder why you take pleasure to insult a game you didn t even play...



    Well probably only your Psy could answer

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  • matraquematraque Member Posts: 1,431
    If some of you did not like the movies, this game will probably not be your cup of tea.



    LOTRO will work as good as SWG in my opinion... It's own player will destroy it.



    Will see... i'll buy the box and play the first month for sure.



    EDIT : Forgot a word... lol

    eqnext.wikia.com

  • GrindalyxGrindalyx Member UncommonPosts: 657

    I would have to disagree with you on this. I loved the movies for what they were. The best representation of LOTR on the silver screen to date. I balked at the changes and cringed at what was skipped over. But i also know that a book will always tell the story way better than a movie ever can. That is the main reason why i prefer to read the book after seeing the movie if at all possible.

    From what i see of this game i will love it. I will definately pre order it and play it for along time, Yes because it is the only game i will get to run around middle earth in, Yes cause i will get to live out my fantasy of being an elf in middle earth. Yes cause i love MMO's. For these reasons and many more. The way i feel about the movies has very little bearing on the way i feel about the game.

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  • HarafnirHarafnir Member UncommonPosts: 1,350
    Originally posted by SonyaBlue


    I dont know where on earth you are, but i just want you to know your sarcasm was felt in colorado, USA.
     
    BUT , I have to say Val rocked the Willow hard....

     

    Actually you are correct. But I have always liked Val Kilmer, he has a great presence in front of a camera, be it Willow, Heat, or Top Secret... No maybe not Top Secret (The horse won that one), but the Doors, then. But the movie as a whole, effects, storyline and pigs, is...

    Well, as I said before, a masterpiece, flipping bona fide masterpiece... yes. LotR.. Bah! I could do better with a bucket and a roll of duct tape.

    "This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
    It should be thrown with great force"

  • Yaztromo01Yaztromo01 Member Posts: 11
    Originally posted by Batak_Killer


    First: NDA warning
    You do understand any NDA is a complete joke. Granted companies can make up rules for their products, but these rules are not laws. A NDA would never stand up in a court room because they are not case law or federal laws. A company cannot make up laws, and expect the courts in America to respect them. A free society simply doesn't allow this. You also don't sign away your First Amendment rights because some video game company tells you not to speak.



    I honestly believe every one needs to take at least one basic law class.

  • beezeebeezee Member Posts: 149
    Originally posted by Yaztromo01

    Originally posted by Batak_Killer


    First: NDA warning
    You do understand any NDA is a complete joke. Granted companies can make up rules for their products, but these rules are not laws. A NDA would never stand up in a court room because they are not case law or federal laws. A company cannot make up laws, and expect the courts in America to respect them. A free society simply doesn't allow this. You also don't sign away your First Amendment rights because some video game company tells you not to speak.



    I honestly believe every one needs to take at least one basic law class.



    Wrong!!!



    NDA or Non Disclosure Agreement is a legally binding contract that will be enforced by law!  If one agrees to the NDA then it becomes a contract between the two parties involved and a contract (or in Latin: Pacta sunt servanda, which literally means promises must be kept) can then be classified as part of Law of Obligations.



    Now with that being said.  Is it worth the time and money for parties involved to act on the NDA?  In these cases probably not, but it can happen.



    Now, I honestly believe you need to retake basic law.



    I'm done here.
  • Yaztromo01Yaztromo01 Member Posts: 11
    *sigh*

    Each State has laws regulating the validity of NDAs and other such contracts. Some states show little concern for NDAs and regularly find them invalid. Should the contract be flawed, it may provide no protection at all. In some states one invalid clause will invalidate the entire contract. (NDA info site)

     

    NDA is not a law like I said before it’s a contract. The law doesn’t enforce the NDA it regulates it. There is a big difference between enforce and regulate, and they’re not interchangeable terms.

     

    There is an old adage that a contract is only as good as the person signing it. One is safer using an NDA with those people of known high integrity and is of little value with person having low integrity. (NDA info site)

     

    NDA’s are mainly used as a deterrent if anything. The complex legal process involved is very costly. Also, there are laws not contracts to protect people. People by law have the right to warn others about an unsatisfactory product. Also, people can counter sue companies for false advertising, which I am sure no mmorpg ever does. NDA’s is basically a company stating “ we know our product is crap please don’t sue us”.

     

    Now this isn’t to say a company isn’t protected. It’s a different issue if a person is stealing coding for example. In closing, people maintain the right to warn others of an unsatisfactory product even under an NDA. Consumer laws are meant to protect us from companies selling crappy products with no repercussions.

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    Good lord,

    You guys went from arguing about the square footage of the gameworld to NDA's lol....

    NDA = keep your yapper shut. Employees argee to it as well. If you don't think you can handle that huge, crushing resposibility, don't get involved in the first place. Its called personal intergrity. YOU break it, YOU are a poo-poo head. You are not doing any "service" to the community at large by leaking information.

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