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List of Features Not In-Game.

Hey all,

As I approach lvl 20, I am begnning to see how many things the devs left out of release.  I am still having a pretty good time, but this MMO is half-baked, to say the least, here it goes:

Player housing

Rings

Necklaces

Cloaks

Helm graphics

Guild housing

Guild activites and interfacing

Flying mounts

Many crafting recipes and sub-components are also missing

Entire Berserker Class

Entire Inquisitor Class

Teleportation

Tracking for Rangers (this is absurd)

Entire villages and towns

And entire quest lines (this doesn't include the dozen or so broken quests I have already come in contact with).

This isn't a whine post, but for those of you thinking about joining up, take a good look before you buy it...  You may still have fun, but the lag, missing features and overall horrible performance of this game made me hit "cancel" until I see some more patches...

 

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  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489

     

    What are you talking about? See bellow:

    Originally posted by Dis_Ordur


    Hey all,
    As I approach lvl 20, I am begnning to see how many things the devs left out of release.  I am still having a pretty good time, but this MMO is half-baked, to say the least, here it goes:
    Player housing In the game
    Rings In the game
    Necklaces In the game
    Cloaks In the game
    Helm graphics Removed do to Clipping issues with head features, will be returned.
    Guild housing Never promised for Launch. Coming with Player Cities.
    Guild activites and interfacing In the game
    Flying mounts In the game
    Many crafting recipes and sub-components are also missing Like? I've yet to see one. I may believe a few are missing, but out of 40k that's nothing.
    Entire Berserker Class NEVER scheduled OR promised for Launch
    Entire Inquisitor Class Delayed OVER a year ago, since it's tied to the God system
    Teleportation In the game
    Tracking for Rangers (this is absurd) Delayed OVER a year ago, and publicly discussed. It WAS tied to the wind system, that was removed from launch due to chunk conflicts I believe. Tracking will be coming.
    Entire villages and towns Like?
    And entire quest lines (this doesn't include the dozen or so broken quests I have already come in contact with). What are you talking about? How would you even KNOW if an entire quest line was missing?
    This isn't a whine post, but for those of you thinking about joining up, take a good look before you buy it...  You may still have fun, but the lag, missing features and overall horrible performance of this game made me hit "cancel" until I see some more patches... Stop spreading false information, lies & half-truths... please, this is getting old... If you don't like the game, move on, don't lie about it. There are a lot of real issues, there is no need to make any up.
     

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • boojiboyboojiboy Member UncommonPosts: 1,553

    Dis_Ordur, are you sure you are playing Vanguard?  If you are serious, and aren't just Trolling, then the previous post answers it well.

  • wow.. thanks MX13 for putting all these things this retard stated to the ground. I kinda stopped reading right when he put player housing.. i mean that was the first thing i read when i got this game.. lol
  • Dis_OrdurDis_Ordur Member Posts: 1,501

    I haven't seen any of those features pre-lvl 20...  Maybe I am missing something, but when I search for rings, cloaks or necklaces, notihng is on the exchange...

    Pretty sure they aren't in game, at least for characters my level.

    But you Vanbois sure are fun to get a rise out of...  I swear, I have never seen a community as defensive as the VG community...

    And to MX13...  Unlike you, I haven't pored over this game for the last three years, I am not up to speed with the statements made regarding features not in at launch...  Such items as Ranger's track are elementary enough to be expected at launch...  But go ahead and keep making excuses, I am bored at work...

    Add one more item to that list that is missing:

     

    Gods

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  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615
    Woo says: "swearingen! #$%# suckas!"

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  • PhifePhife Member Posts: 229
    Originally posted by Dis_Ordur


    I haven't seen any of those features pre-lvl 20...  Maybe I am missing something, but when I search for rings, cloaks or necklaces, notihng is on the exchange... I assure you they are on the exchange as that is how each of my alternates are equipped with rings and necklaces.  Cloaks are hard to come by, thus fetching a premium price, but they are in the game... albeit rare.
    Pretty sure they aren't in game, at least for characters my level.
    But you Vanbois sure are fun to get a rise out of...  I swear, I have never seen a community as defensive as the VG community...  I have, it's called EVERY OTHER FRELLING GAME on this website.  Look to the left and click on any random game's forum and you see the same booooooooring B.S. people knocking and defending this or that game... 
    And to MX13...  Unlike you, I haven't pored over this game for the last three years, I am not up to speed with the statements made regarding features not in at launch...  Such items as Ranger's track are elementary enough to be expected at launch...  But go ahead and keep making excuses, I am bored at work... It's easy to spot bored people at work because all they do is post worthless crap.... like me!!! lol
    Add one more item to that list that is missing:
     
    Gods Yeah, we know there is stuff missing from the game.  Is it acceptable, IMHO no.  I'm also tired of half-ass releases (See every other MMO release in the past 3 years) and Dev-teams not getting the job done on time and on budget.... but, such is life.  If you don't like it, develop your own MMORPG?

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  • SuitepeeSuitepee Member Posts: 921
    Originally posted by Dis_Ordur


    I haven't seen any of those features pre-lvl 20...  Maybe I am missing something, but when I search for rings, cloaks or necklaces, notihng is on the exchange...



    Ring (level 40)- http://vg.mmodb.com/items/radiant-droplet-ring-629.php

    Ring (level 9)- http://vg.mmodb.com/items/radiant-emerald-ring-1762.php

    Necklace (level 26)- http://vg.mmodb.com/items/rahazi-fang-necklace-8494.php

    Necklace (level 13)- http://vg.mmodb.com/items/necklace-of-old-magic-1977.php

    Cloak (level 26)- http://vg.mmodb.com/items/cloak-of-dark-strategy-6768.php

    Cloak (level 12)- http://vg.mmodb.com/items/cloak-of-the-oni-master-922.php

    Searching on the official website also brings up a list of cloaks,necklaces and rings:

    Cloak- http://vgplayers.station.sony.com/itemDetails.vm?itemId=1030043 (Feb 5th discovered first!)

    Necklace- http://vgplayers.station.sony.com/itemDetails.vm?itemId=481303 (Feb 10th!)

    Ring- http://vgplayers.station.sony.com/itemDetails.vm?itemId=479554 (UNDISCOVERED!)

    Maybe because people have YET to put them up on there,or find them on exchange?

  • Deron_BarakDeron_Barak Member Posts: 1,136

     

    Originally posted by Dis_Ordur


    I haven't seen any of those features pre-lvl 20...  Maybe I am missing something, but when I search for rings, cloaks or necklaces, notihng is on the exchange...
    Pretty sure they aren't in game, at least for characters my level.
    But you Vanbois sure are fun to get a rise out of...  I swear, I have never seen a community as defensive as the VG community...
    And to MX13...  Unlike you, I haven't pored over this game for the last three years, I am not up to speed with the statements made regarding features not in at launch...  Such items as Ranger's track are elementary enough to be expected at launch...  But go ahead and keep making excuses, I am bored at work...
    Add one more item to that list that is missing:
     
    Gods

    You can't understand why Vanguard fans get so defensive? Maybe it's because people like you post info that is completly wrong (see OP) and state it as fact.  It's one thing to state that Vanguard sucks or it's a pile, that's an opinion and is each person's right.  It's quite another to insist you played the game to level 20 and state as fact those items don't exist or should have at release.  You are wrong.

    MX13's assesment is correct. (see above)

     

    Just not worth my time anymore.

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378
    Originally posted by Dis_Ordur


    I haven't seen any of those features pre-lvl 20...  Maybe I am missing something, but when I search for rings, cloaks or necklaces, notihng is on the exchange...
    Pretty sure they aren't in game, at least for characters my level.
    But you Vanbois sure are fun to get a rise out of...  I swear, I have never seen a community as defensive as the VG community...
    And to MX13...  Unlike you, I haven't pored over this game for the last three years, I am not up to speed with the statements made regarding features not in at launch...  Such items as Ranger's track are elementary enough to be expected at launch...  But go ahead and keep making excuses, I am bored at work...
    Add one more item to that list that is missing:
     
    Gods

    Gotta admit it was a pretty laughably uninformed post.

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  • boojiboyboojiboy Member UncommonPosts: 1,553

    OK, well, if you are really looking for input on rings, cloaks necklaces...

    Go to the Broker, select the sphere you want (e.g. Diplomacy, Adventuring etc.), select the slot (e.g. ring, ear, neck back etc.) and click search.  I haven't noticed much of a different when selecting right ear vs left ear as of yet.  I'm currently looking for rings currently, and I'll get a listing of at least 50 or so.  Most are player made, some are dropped from Mobs.  Diplomacy rings, earrings and neck items are in high demand and may only last on the broker a few hours before someone buys them.  Personally, I've placed earrings for sale and they go within minutes (I've obviously  under-priced them).

    Cloaks are also high demand and go like hot-cakes.  I'm seeing more and more player made cloaks which seem to be driving the over all price down for such items.

    I also keep the auction channel on when I'm in the mood to buy, but it seems that most of the items there are premium and out of my price range.  Although I snagged a great wisdom ring for 1s.

    With regard to player housing, that has become a very hot market item in the last week.  Plots have been discovered and purchased in Northern and Eastern Thestra and players are currently acquiring the materials they need to build their houses.  For me, it's out of my price range. 

  • SuitepeeSuitepee Member Posts: 921
    Originally posted by Deron_Barak


    You can't understand why Vanguard fans get so defensive? Maybe it's because people like you post info that is completly wrong and state it as fact. 



    I hope I'm not considered a Vanguard fan; I'm just here until Darkfall comes.

    Quite a worthy time-filler though; I finally get to play an EQ-style game and a decent PvE MMORPG.

  • Deron_BarakDeron_Barak Member Posts: 1,136
    Originally posted by Suitepee

    Originally posted by Deron_Barak


    You can't understand why Vanguard fans get so defensive? Maybe it's because people like you post info that is completly wrong and state it as fact. 



    I hope I'm not considered a Vanguard fan; I'm just here until Darkfall comes.

    Quite a worthy time-filler though; I finally get to play an EQ-style game and a decent PvE MMORPG.


    I edited my post just in case you though I was talking to you .  My cousin who played EQ at launch took one look as I was playing Vanguard and said "It looks like an updated EQ".  I think he's right and am glad for it.

    Just not worth my time anymore.

  • JK-KanosiJK-Kanosi Member Posts: 1,357

    I've played the modern MMORPGs (EQ2, WoW, DDO), but I have yet to find a reason to leave DAoC.

    The question is what does Vanguard have that my game, that I've spent years learning, have?

    DAOC has modern day graphics because of its graphical overhaul in Catacombs and Darkness Rising.

    DAoC has 5 viable ways to level up (grinding, questing, PvPing, Kill Tasks, Task Dungeons).

    DAoC not only has run of the mill quests, but also Epic quests and other immersive story lines.

    DAoC has a huge world to explore, with 3 realms. 20+ races, 30+ classes with 3 different ways to specialize them that makes them completely unique compared to someone else of the same class.

    Player housing

    RvR

    BG's for all levels and PvP dungeons for lvls 1-9 and 15+

    Raids that don't revolve around getting loot, but around having fun and completing quests.

    Mounts and epic mounts

    Crafting

    Boats (for ToA users)

    A whole slew of different armor and the ability to customize it through dyes for your own look

    Guild housing and tools

    Easy travel and not bad of a death penalty

    Multiple way of advancement (lvling to 50, master lvls, champion lvls, and Realm ranks)

     

     

    I'm probably missing something, but that is just off the top of my head. Now what does Vanguard offer that is worth leaving my game and spending $300 for a new video card and another Gig of RAM? A new enviroment, diplomacy, performance problems and loads of bugs? Am I missing something here?

    This is what would have brought me to Vanguard if they released a finished product. Finished doesn't mean bug free, but relatively bug free (look at LoTRO Beta reviews). I would have played Vanguard because of their multiple starting areas, which DAoC did away with. I would have came over for the player ran cities, but they don't exist. Lastly, a playable game with good graphics without being overly taxing on a relatively new system is a bonus. But alas, they don't offer anything really new, the game has too many bugs for a released product, and requires a top of the line machine to get graphics even on par with my old game.

    No thanks Sigil. You had your chance, now step aside for AoC, WAR, Darkfall and future MMORPGs that will break the mold at least a little bit and offer us reason to leave our older games aside from wanting to play something newer.

    MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW

    Currently Playing: WAR
    Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.

  • VhalnVhaln Member Posts: 3,159
    Originally posted by Dis_Ordur


    I haven't seen any of those features pre-lvl 20...  Maybe I am missing something, but when I search for rings, cloaks or necklaces, notihng is on the exchange...

     

    Someone higher level than I correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's the problem, right there.  There seems to be a lot of things that we don't see untill higher level.  Maybe that's intentional, but how are new players supposed to know that?  We're not all hardcore fans who keep up with that sort of info, and expect to have to work for everything.

    Take cloaks for example.  Some might say we should have to work for them, but why?  I understand needing to work for the extra-shiny cloak of glittering pwnage, but why shouldn't plain brown cloaks be available right at level one?  How many n00bs get turned off and quit, thinking things aren't in the game, because they don't see them during the first 10-20 levels?  Not that anyone would quit over cloaks, but there are all sorts of things like that, and they add to up a pretty big first impression.

    When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489
    Originally posted by Dis_Ordur


    I haven't seen any of those features pre-lvl 20...  Maybe I am missing something, but when I search for rings, cloaks or necklaces, notihng is on the exchange... This just isn't the case. List your server, and I will go on and take a screen shot.
    Pretty sure they aren't in game, at least for characters my level. They are, and if you were REALLY playing you would have gotten one of them by now as a reward. I've gotten OVER 20 of them as rewards on my LVL 19. This makes me believe you are not playing, but Trolling.
    But you Vanbois sure are fun to get a rise out of...  I swear, I have never seen a community as defensive as the VG community... Proof you're Trolling. Stop lieing, that's the problem here. You.
    And to MX13...  Unlike you, I haven't pored over this game for the last three years, I am not up to speed with the statements made regarding features not in at launch...  Such items as Ranger's track are elementary enough to be expected at launch...  But go ahead and keep making excuses, I am bored at work... Wow, I didn't know you knew me and how long I've followed the game. Oh wait, you don't. If you took 5 minutes to look up you lies, you'ld know the reality. Unfortunatly for you, you're too lazy to even research your lies to look plausable. You must be working as a game coder being such an expert and all.
    Add one more item to that list that is missing:
     
    Gods Again, you show your ignorance. The God System was NEVER planned for launch, hence the lack of Inquisitors. Feel free to add more stupid lies to debunk, I'm home sick and have pleanty of time.
    Vanguard has issues and then some. You're just Trolling for the sake of Trolling, and the qualities of your lies is lacking. Try Trolling one of the MANY real issues, there are plenty to choose from.

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489
    Originally posted by Vhaln

    Originally posted by Dis_Ordur


    I haven't seen any of those features pre-lvl 20...  Maybe I am missing something, but when I search for rings, cloaks or necklaces, notihng is on the exchange...

     

    Someone higher level than I correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's the problem, right there.  There seems to be a lot of things that we don't see untill higher level.  Maybe that's intentional, but how are new players supposed to know that?  We're not all hardcore fans who keep up with that sort of info, and expect to have to work for everything.

    Take cloaks for example.  Some might say we should have to work for them, but why?  I understand needing to work for the extra-shiny cloak of glittering pwnage, but why shouldn't plain brown cloaks be available right at level one?  How many n00bs get turned off and quit, thinking things aren't in the game, because they don't see them during the first 10-20 levels?  Not that anyone would quit over cloaks, but there are all sorts of things like that, and they add to up a pretty big first impression.



    Well said.

    However, there is one main fact that leads me to believe he's a liar. Cloaks. Who here around LVL's 12-15 hasn't seen ANOTHER character wearing one?

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • VhalnVhaln Member Posts: 3,159
    Originally posted by MX13

    Well said.
    However, there is one main fact that leads me to believe he's a liar. Cloaks. Who here around LVL's 12-15 hasn't seen ANOTHER character wearing one?



    Maybe I'm just not social enough (I admit it, I'm a cliche gamer, and suck at being social) but I've yet to see anyone else wearing a cloak.  Could also be that in towns, with all the stuttering and lag, I don't notice what other players are wearing that much.  Mostly just trying my damndest to get where I need to, and get out of there, before I crash.

     

    When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  • FariicFariic Member Posts: 1,546
    Originally posted by MX13


     
    What are you talking about? See bellow:
    Originally posted by Dis_Ordur


    Hey all,
    As I approach lvl 20, I am begnning to see how many things the devs left out of release.  I am still having a pretty good time, but this MMO is half-baked, to say the least, here it goes:
    Player housing In the game
    Rings In the game
    Necklaces In the game
    Cloaks In the game
    Helm graphics Removed do to Clipping issues with head features, will be returned.
    Guild housing Never promised for Launch. Coming with Player Cities.
    Guild activites and interfacing In the game
    Flying mounts In the game
    Many crafting recipes and sub-components are also missing Like? I've yet to see one. I may believe a few are missing, but out of 40k that's nothing.
    Entire Berserker Class NEVER scheduled OR promised for Launch
    Entire Inquisitor Class Delayed OVER a year ago, since it's tied to the God system
    Teleportation In the game
    Tracking for Rangers (this is absurd) Delayed OVER a year ago, and publicly discussed. It WAS tied to the wind system, that was removed from launch due to chunk conflicts I believe. Tracking will be coming.
    Entire villages and towns Like?
    And entire quest lines (this doesn't include the dozen or so broken quests I have already come in contact with). What are you talking about? How would you even KNOW if an entire quest line was missing?
    This isn't a whine post, but for those of you thinking about joining up, take a good look before you buy it...  You may still have fun, but the lag, missing features and overall horrible performance of this game made me hit "cancel" until I see some more patches... Stop spreading false information, lies & half-truths... please, this is getting old... If you don't like the game, move on, don't lie about it. There are a lot of real issues, there is no need to make any up.
     


  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902

    ya know, I actually WISH i have Never seen anyone wear a cloak.  each day I log in, the more I see people wearing cloaks.  Its not as bad now as it was in beta though, when a cloak was as common as a pair of boots.

    oh, this thread delivers.. lol.  I think im going to go choke myself with my cloak in the house our guild built. 

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  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489
    Originally posted by Vhaln

    Originally posted by MX13

    Well said.
    However, there is one main fact that leads me to believe he's a liar. Cloaks. Who here around LVL's 12-15 hasn't seen ANOTHER character wearing one?



    Maybe I'm just not social enough (I admit it, I'm a cliche gamer, and suck at being social) but I've yet to see anyone else wearing a cloak.  Could also be that in towns, with all the stuttering and lag, I don't notice what other players are wearing that much.  Mostly just trying my damndest to get where I need to, and get out of there, before I crash.

     


    I stand Corrected.

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • evilmonkey25evilmonkey25 Member Posts: 13
    Originally posted by Dis_Ordur


    I haven't seen any of those features pre-lvl 20...  Maybe I am missing something, but when I search for rings, cloaks or necklaces, notihng is on the exchange...Really all i did was search cloak at the boker and found some, i see people with cloak of telons finest and people always spam "LFG cloak quest"
    Pretty sure they aren't in game, at least for characters my level. Whats your level? I'm 12 and I've seen all this HA you got pwned by a mere n00b!
    But you Vanbois sure are fun to get a rise out of...  I swear, I have never seen a community as defensive as the VG community...    Ok when you insult something people like, and rant about something thats not true (whats the word? oh LIEING(sp?) what do you expect?
    And to MX13...  Unlike you, I haven't pored over this game for the last three years, I am not up to speed with the statements made regarding features not in at launch...  Such items as Ranger's track are elementary enough to be expected at launch...  But go ahead and keep making excuses, I am bored at work...  ok I found this game 4 days before launch and I knew this, and if you are going to do a rant at least make it an educated one.
    Add one more item to that list that is missing:
     
    Gods
    Oh BTW everyone whose wondering I have Vista and XP, and it works perfectly on vista AND it's not even a high grade comp (i think my Grpx card is a nVidia 7300GT) so yeah! people talk about how angry Vanbois get and yes they do but im a vanguard fan and i get embaressed (sp?) by them.  THEY ARE NOT THE WHOLE VANGUARD COMMUNITY!! I KNOW V:SOH HAS FLAWS! The GM's are also quite good when a bug wiped my stuff i petitioned and got it back right away and when a gold seller was spamming literally 2 minutes later a GM annouced that he had been removed. So if you were too lazy to read the whole thing (I would be) Please post about vanguards flaws in a possitive manner (i.e. what they need to fix not this sux!)
  • ASmith84ASmith84 Member Posts: 979
    why you tellin us? tell the developers they usually have a feature in the game or tell you on their website.
  • FargolFargol Member UncommonPosts: 303
    Originally posted by ASmith84

    why you tellin us? tell the developers they usually have a feature in the game or tell you on their website.
    Why is he telling you? Because likely he was barely half-serious and was merely trying to get a rise out of the staunch (and somewhat paranoid) Vanguard defenders..



    He succeeded.



    This is why I keep coming up to this forum. Freakin' hilarious. I have  more fun in an hour watching the trolls bait the Vanguard fans than I had playing the game for the two days it was on my hard disk.
  • DMEnocDMEnoc Member Posts: 153

    Actually based on some of his other posts, he was being serious. He is just trying to join the 'Hating VG is the cool thing to do' crowd. I think his second post in the thread was an attempt (poorly done as well) to save face and not look totally inept.

  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902
    Originally posted by Fargol

    Originally posted by ASmith84

    why you tellin us? tell the developers they usually have a feature in the game or tell you on their website.
    Why is he telling you? Because likely he was barely half-serious and was merely trying to get a rise out of the staunch (and somewhat paranoid) Vanguard defenders..



    He succeeded.



    This is why I keep coming up to this forum. Freakin' hilarious. I have  more fun in an hour watching the trolls bait the Vanguard fans than I had playing the game for the two days it was on my hard disk.

    see! it is true, Vanguard has something for everybody!

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