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Animal Rights Wackos: Kill The Polar Bear!

outfctrloutfctrl Member UncommonPosts: 3,619

Groups like PETA use people's love of animals as a fund raising hook. They give these groups money because they want to help the cute, fluffy, little animals. But, what they don't realize is that a lot of these groups are run by animal rights extremists who have bizarre beliefs relating to animals.

This sounds like one of the liberal argument for abortion, "We must kill the child now because he might not have an easy time of it later." But, in this case, they've got to execute the Polar Bear because he might have a tough time getting along with other Polar Bears when he gets older.

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PS: The humiliation of being treated as a domestic pet? He's a bear! He has no concept of domestic pets or humiliation.  Sheesh

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  • BabbuunBabbuun Member Posts: 333
    Originally posted by outfctrl


    Groups like PETA use people's love of animals as a fund raising hook. They give these groups money because they want to help the cute, fluffy, little animals. But, what they don't realize is that a lot of these groups are run by animal rights extremists who have bizarre beliefs relating to animals.
    This sounds like one of the liberal argument for abortion, "We must kill the child now because he might not have an easy time of it later." But, in this case, they've got to execute the Polar Bear because he might have a tough time getting along with other Polar Bears when he gets older.
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    PS: The humiliation of being treated as a domestic pet? He's a bear! He has no concept of domestic pets or humiliation.  Sheesh
    It's quite ridiculous how anyone would think they deserve the right to decide the fate of lives. Be it a general, scientist, politician or activist. It's ridiculous, but in some cases it has to be done. If abortion means the mother would survive whereas not aborting would mean a >50% chance the mother would die and a >50% chance the kid would die with her or without her living, I do believe the mother should be entitled to decide their fates by means of abortion(or not getting an abortion). If excellent intel and all previous experience points to only a military assault being able to take down some dangerous criminal, then go through with it.



    And yes. Extremist animal activists are usually complete nutjobs. These people are a shame to any ideology, and the human race. Why don't they do something useful with their zeal? Like battle the increasing blatant lies and bias in mainstream media. Or become eco-warriors(or eco-nutjobs) and battle our capitalist economy and rooted ways of thinking(because they cannot be sustained for long anymore). How about battling extremist religion by putting your life on the line and preaching about the ugly face of religious violence, physical or mental, on spot in the middle east and the bible belt(instead of literally "battling" it in with guns, only fueling the fire)?These are just a few easy examples for any animal rights person with "strong ethics" reading. Get a clue as to what real injustice is.
  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267
    There are animal rights people who believe you shouldn't own a pet and there are less extreme animal rights people who believe having a pet is ok.

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  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586
    Originally posted by outfctrl


    Groups like PETA use people's love of animals as a fund raising hook. They give these groups money because they want to help the cute, fluffy, little animals. But, what they don't realize is that a lot of these groups are run by animal rights extremists who have bizarre beliefs relating to animals.
    This sounds like one of the liberal argument for abortion, "We must kill the child now because he might not have an easy time of it later." But, in this case, they've got to execute the Polar Bear because he might have a tough time getting along with other Polar Bears when he gets older.
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    PS: The humiliation of being treated as a domestic pet? He's a bear! He has no concept of domestic pets or humiliation.  Sheesh
    Man I love how you always throw a "liberal argument" in there. Cracks me up everytime. Keep up the good work. Oh and don't have a heart attack this coming fall.

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  • gpettgpett Member Posts: 1,105

    I do not support any of the civil rights, animal rights, or environmentalists groups.  Now days, they all have political agendas far beyond the basic ideals they preach.

    I wish people would go learn the facts about these issues form reputable peer review sources, form thier own oppinoins, and make thier own decisions instead of buy into the terror mongering most of these "rights groups" use.

  • uruku_xuruku_x Member Posts: 129
    I doubt to many people are really backing this, regardless of which side of the line they fall on. Chill.

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  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457
    Animal rights people are on my "holocaust" list.
  • kaibigan34kaibigan34 Member Posts: 1,508
    Personally I do not trust those "Run Bambi it's man" groups like PETA and the World Wildlife Federation. Its a known fact that the WWF would keep species on the endangered species lists to keep getting donations. Even when the animal was seriously overpopulated and posed a threat to itself and others. The African Leopard, for example, is on the endangered species list yet there are places you can go where you cant step without stepping on a leopard track. Some of these animals, on the list, are considered so endangered you cant even kill one in self defense without spending the rest of your life in jail.



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  • Keebs1984Keebs1984 Member Posts: 1,356
    Originally posted by baff

    Animal rights people are on my "holocaust" list.



    Yes, lets just lump anybody who believes in animal rights as an extremist who would choose the life of a cat over the life of a human.

    In fact why don't we just say anybody who is a conservative is also a neo-con capitalist who believes that everybody should fend for themselves and that the richest people are obviously just better at living.

    While we are at it, why don't we just say that any liberal is just a die-hard commie socialist who would like nothing better than to see the U.S. in a government state where we have no freedom of speech.

    Cause you know, all these examples are applicable with those generalizations.

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  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457
    I'd like to re-introduce crocodiles into their swimming pools.
  • Rikimaru_XRikimaru_X Member UncommonPosts: 11,718
    I hate when there is such a good and bad side to such things. That's just mad crazy.

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  • KyorutoKyoruto Member Posts: 794
    Originally posted by Keebs1984

    Originally posted by baff

    Animal rights people are on my "holocaust" list.



    Yes, lets just lump anybody who believes in animal rights as an extremist who would choose the life of a cat over the life of a human.

    In fact why don't we just say anybody who is a conservative is also a neo-con capitalist who believes that everybody should fend for themselves and that the richest people are obviously just better at living.

    While we are at it, why don't we just say that any liberal is just a die-hard commie socialist who would like nothing better than to see the U.S. in a government state where we have no freedom of speech.

    Cause you know, all these examples are applicable with those generalizations.

    Hell they're both bad for the country anyway. It might just be an improvement. I'm personally sick and tired of all the hate thats being spread through them at one another. Its not long before a hate crime is committed because of those two political standpoints.

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  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    Any ideology that places principles besides the universal declaration of human rights before the best sollution for a problem is potentially dangerous. That's practically everyone (liberal, conservative, whatever, ...) besides technocrats.
  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918
    Originally posted by baff

    I'd like to re-introduce crocodiles into their swimming pools.
    I chuckled

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457
    Originally posted by Keebs1984

    Originally posted by baff

    Animal rights people are on my "holocaust" list.



    Yes, lets just lump anybody who believes in animal rights as an extremist who would choose the life of a cat over the life of a human.

    In fact why don't we just say anybody who is a conservative is also a neo-con capitalist who believes that everybody should fend for themselves and that the richest people are obviously just better at living.

    While we are at it, why don't we just say that any liberal is just a die-hard commie socialist who would like nothing better than to see the U.S. in a government state where we have no freedom of speech.

    Cause you know, all these examples are applicable with those generalizations.

    It's not the really extremist animal rights people that have been killing all my animals. It's just the bod standard thick as shit, come from the city types, with the big morals and the little knowledge. 

    It's not the real whackos that cause all the problems. Everyone can spot a whacko. It's the ones who think they aren't whackos. The ones who think by and large they are justified, moderate and well educated on the matters.

    It's the smartmouthed students, the righteous teens, the university types and the inner city hippies. The ones who think they know more about animal welfare than people who look after animals all day everyday. Who live with them and care for them. Who grew up with them and work with them from sun up to sun daown 365 days a year, every day of their life.

    The oh so civilised ones who all get together in the centres of population and fashionably spread their lack of understanding around like it has any relation to real life. Who pass judgement on what they have never tried........ And because we live in a democracy, and the people who don't know anything about animal welfare outnumber those people who do, they screw it all up for everyone, man and animal alike, and then tell eachother how enlightended they all are.

    That nice chap who rescues all the town foxes in his van (and the council that pays him). Takes 20 at a time and then releases them in the country. Those nice people who set free all the minks from the mink farm. Those big hearted souls who let all the chickens free. Those enviromental geniae who release bears and wolfs into the wilderness. Bans hunting, restricts pest control and all those other great sounding ideas, the consequences of which they really don't know anything about.

    These people are extremly destructive. How many of my animals has to die or suffer so some self righteous bank cashier from London can feel good about himself? Can have his little WWF or save the world moment?

    It's not the extremists who are on my list. It's just your plain garden variety animal rights protester that is causing all my problems.  And if they didn't so willingly subscribe to easy generalisations, they wouldn't have to be on my list themselves. I could just dismiss them all individually as idiots and no more harm would come form it.

  • outfctrloutfctrl Member UncommonPosts: 3,619

    Ahh...the hell with it......., when global warming really takes hold,  the grizzly bears will move north and eat all the polar bears anyway.

     

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  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087
    Ahh so cute that first picture.......then i read that they want to put it to sleep for the most inane of reasons.

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  • IIRLIIRL Member Posts: 876
    Originally posted by outfctrl


    Ahh...the hell with it......., when global warming really takes hold,  the grizzly bears will move north and eat all the polar bears anyway.
     
    Are you that naive to believe in Grizzly's would actually stand a chance against polar bears?



    Facts;



    Polar bears are white.



    Grizzly's are black/brown whatever, they're not white.



    Let's see now, white versus non-white... Polar bears win.

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  • Fa|conFa|con Member Posts: 57
    Watch this video to learn the truth about PETA.



    www.youtube.com/watch

  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918
    Originally posted by Fa|con

    Watch this video to learn the truth about PETA.



    www.youtube.com/watch

    Truth

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • albinofreakalbinofreak Member Posts: 449

    Animal rights people tend to be a bit crazy. If anyone has anyone seen Penn and Teller's Bullshit... they do an episode on PETA and it is very good. A fun fact for y'all: the Vice President of PETA at the time that they did the episode was a diabetic and thus relied on insulin to survive. Insulin comes from cows. Therefore, the VP of PETA was using cow products. Why? In her words, she needed to be able to stay alive so she could fight for the rights of animals. They even have some couple that claims that the animals will rise up (ala Animal Farm) with the animal lovers and they will kill all the meat eaters!

    Granted, corporate animal farms are very cruel. But that isnt a reason to stop eating meat. It is reason to buy from small farms who have free range animals and thus keeping them in business. Meat from free range farms is of better quality too.

    What would PETA think about this? http://www.sexwork.com/family/dolphins1.html Not for the faint of heart! I hope I dont get banned for posting that. Its a joke... I think, rather... I hope.

  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918
    Originally posted by albinofreak


    Animal rights people tend to be a bit crazy. If anyone has anyone seen Penn and Teller's Bullshit... they do an episode on PETA and it is very good. A fun fact for y'all: the Vice President of PETA at the time that they did the episode was a diabetic and thus relied on insulin to survive. Insulin comes from cows. Therefore, the VP of PETA was using cow products. Why? In her words, she needed to be able to stay alive so she could fight for the rights of animals. They even have some couple that claims that the animals will rise up (ala Animal Farm) with the animal lovers and they will kill all the meat eaters!
    Granted, corporate animal farms are very cruel. But that isnt a reason to stop eating meat. It is reason to buy from small farms who have free range animals and thus keeping them in business. Meat from free range farms is of better quality too.
    What would PETA think about this? http://www.sexwork.com/family/dolphins1.html Not for the faint of heart! I hope I dont get banned for posting that. Its a joke... I think, rather... I hope.

     

    Yeah someone posted the Pen and Tellar thing...apparently the treatment for type A diabetes was also derived through testing on dogs...and PETA is against animal testing...the hypocrisy is astounding..and the excuse is extremely lame.

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • albinofreakalbinofreak Member Posts: 449
    Also what alot of these people forget is that a good portion of your taxes go to agricultural subsidies, which supports meat farms as well. So just by living in the US and being for animal rights, you are inherently hypocritical.
  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918
    Originally posted by albinofreak

    Also what alot of these people forget is that a good portion of your taxes go to agricultural subsidies, which supports meat farms as well. So just by living in the US and being for animal rights, you are inherently hypocritical.
    What I think is funny is that PETA is against humans eating animals, and they believe that humans are not above animals as far as ethics are concerned...well...animals eat other animals, why are humans not allowed to do that?  And don't get me started on the "Humans don't have teeth designed for eating meat so it's against our nature" argument, because I'll just post a picture of a hipopotomus.

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • albinofreakalbinofreak Member Posts: 449

    I really couldnt tell you. I think it might be that it is unfair, since we have guns and things when we hunt, but our brains are what we evolved with to help us hunt and we build and manipulate guns with those brains. They also might think it is cruel what we do to animals in corporate farms, and well they are right, but they are focusing their energy in dumbass causes like stopping testing on animals, which well... saves human lives, and we are animals.

    SOME animal rights thought is good. Like, spay and neuter your animals so that we dont have stray animals running around. Treat your pets well. Testing on animals should be humane as possible. But like everything else, some people take it too far. Hell, PETA supported terrorists have bombed places doing research on animals... killing all the animals in the process! They are crazy.

     

  • outfctrloutfctrl Member UncommonPosts: 3,619
    Several of our physiological features clearly indicate a design for eating meat, including our stomach's production of hydrochloric acid, something not found in herbivores. Furthermore, the human pancreas manufactures a full range of digestive enzymes to handle a wide variety of foods, both animal and vegetable.

     

    While humans may have longer intestines than animal carnivores, they are not as long as herbivores'; nor do we possess multiple stomachs like many herbivores, nor do we chew cud. Our physiology definitely indicates a mixed feeder.

     

    If people were designed to be strict vegetarians,  we would have a specialized colon, specialized teeth and a stomach that doesn't have a generalized pH-all the better to handle roughage. Humans are natural omnivores. The fact that people have a low synthesis rate of the fatty acid DHA and of taurine, suggesting our early ancestors relied on animal foods to get these nutrients. Vitamin B-12, also, isn't reliably found in plants. Animal foods were a reliable source during evolution.

     

    History argues in favor of the omnivore argument, considering that humans have eaten meat for 2.5 million years or more, according to fossil evidence. Indeed, when researchers examined the chemical makeup of the teeth of an early African hominid that lived in woodlands three million years ago, they expected to learn that our ancestor lived on fruits and leaves. But the isotopic clues show that they ate a varied diet, including either grassland plants or animals that themselves fed on grasses, reported the journal Science in 1999.

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