First off, CCP is a business, a gaming company. They provide a service to all players. No gaming company in there right mind would ever jeopardize their business just so they can win a fictional game. Do you realize how ridiclious your accusations are? Really , think about it. Its not that difficult.
This is so true...I mean take a look at Enron, no company in their right mind would ever jeopardize their business....oh wait...You're comparing Enron to CCP? Wow
Enron was guilty of accounting fraud. How does that compare to what one man in CCP did? Who cheated in a fictional game? LOL WOW
You are the one who brought business into this. You claimed that no company in their right mind would jeopardize their business. To quote you "Think about it, It's not that difficult." Contrary to your seeming belief that a company is infallable, companies in fact are run by humans. They fail for the same reasons human beings fail. The question highlighted by the OP asks us "Is CCP in their right mind?" You seem to give them a pass and say that they are in their 'right mind'. Others see a track record of corruption, indicating they are not in 'their right mind' and are thus, like Enron, very capable of jeopardizing their own business.
So yes, I am comparing them to a fraudulant company.
Nice to see people understand that this issue is about REAL LIFE and how a RL company behaves, not about a GAME.
CCP did bad things to its customers, that is a truth.
CCP is still covering up what they did, that is a truth.
enron...ccp...lie, cheat, steal, coverup what they do, all to line their own pockets with cash...sure seems they have a few things in common.
CCP have admitted to what happened, first truth? things? I believe it was one dev wasn't it not all of CCP? or you know something we don't?
and Im not sure where your second truth is coming from...
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In the beginning the Universe was created, This made a lot of people angry, and has been widely regarded as a bad idea.
Originally posted by Ashton692 Gentlemen, if you look at my post history I am often on the side of the saying that CCP is in the wrong. I encourage anyone that is about to call me a CCP lover to look carefully over my post history before saying anything otherwise. Then danger we have here is letting the "Pendulum" (cough, cough) swing too far the other way, and to become so suspicous that it becomes ridiculous. ***I am not saying that is what the OP is doing*** -- I respect his opinion, and I feel for his situation (losing a 4 year old character because you feel a game is tainted sucks dude). I gotta tell you though, in my gut (because what else do we have? We have no proof, only our guts) I don't think that "Cheating" has spread as far, or to something as tangible as priority bandwidth for BOB members... the sheer logisitics of that are crazy. The amount of people that would need to know would multiply the number of potential leaks... we would have heard about it across more channels, and from more reliable sources then an MMORPG board offhand mentioning. Think about it - TCP/IP is a point to point protocol. In order to prioritize traffic I would need to know the IP address of everyone in the fleet, which, granted, I could harvest from the database, and then tag all the packets. You couldn't hide this from anyone - it would be broadcast across the public network. Computer geeks would see it. BOB and non-BOB alike would pick it up. We would know. CHEATING at CCP isn't something so gross. It is more subtle. CHEATING at CCP is when a Dev tells his corpmate that a change is coming up in T2 BPOs, or when a bughunter mentions to his CEO that there is a way to circumvent a POS shield, or when an ISD member uses his powers to compare the account names on different posts on the EVE-O forums.... granted T20s cheat was of a more substantial nature, and I am sure that happens occasionally too - but for the most part we are talking about subtle cheating, not Devs running rampant through the game spawning Imperial Apoc fleets and laying waste to their enemies. Intergrity is what you do when you know you can get away with it. Some CP employees lack integrity. Is it surprising? They are human. Why is everyone so surprised about this? Why is it that Fanbois are so surprised that some CCP Employees may actually be less then divine? Cheers.
First off, CCP is a business, a gaming company. They provide a service to all players. No gaming company in there right mind would ever jeopardize their business just so they can win a fictional game. Do you realize how ridiclious your accusations are? Really , think about it. Its not that difficult.
This is so true...I mean take a look at Enron, no company in their right mind would ever jeopardize their business....oh wait...You're comparing Enron to CCP? Wow
Enron was guilty of accounting fraud. How does that compare to what one man in CCP did? Who cheated in a fictional game? LOL WOW
You are the one who brought business into this. You claimed that no company in their right mind would jeopardize their business. To quote you "Think about it, It's not that difficult." Contrary to your seeming belief that a company is infallable, companies in fact are run by humans. They fail for the same reasons human beings fail. The question highlighted by the OP asks us "Is CCP in their right mind?" You seem to give them a pass and say that they are in their 'right mind'. Others see a track record of corruption, indicating they are not in 'their right mind' and are thus, like Enron, very capable of jeopardizing their own business.
So yes, I am comparing them to a fraudulant company.
Nice to see people understand that this issue is about REAL LIFE and how a RL company behaves, not about a GAME.
CCP did bad things to its customers, that is a truth.
CCP is still covering up what they did, that is a truth.
enron...ccp...lie, cheat, steal, coverup what they do, all to line their own pockets with cash...sure seems they have a few things in common.
CCP have admitted to what happened, first truth? things? I believe it was one dev wasn't it not all of CCP? or you know something we don't?
and Im not sure where your second truth is coming from... you either have no clue due to not paying attention to the entire series of events, or you are trolling...I'll give the benefit of doubt and assume you are clueless
ccp the "we cheat for our buddies and are proud of it" company...
I bet most of these people here are new players or played from exodus and on
and don't even know how crooked ccp really is
for those of you that have been in this game since alpha and do know props to you
ccp is the most crap company out there at the moment and have turned this game into a piece of shit from what it once was
im even going to go as far to say soe>ccp and it really hurts to say that
I remember those days oh how fun they were
Wow. What an intelligent statement you made. You know. I'm in the process of deciding whether or not to start playing again. And it seems that all the posts that say either EVE had a problem and fixed it or it wasn't that huge a deal and it's being dealt with are much more articulate and intelligent than the posts attacking CCP. All you guys can do is spout profanities and insults at CCP. I wouldn't acknolwedge you either if I were them. The fact that so many of you guys are leaving the game makes me want to go back more. It's kinda like all the trash just got taken out. Thanks for making my decision easy. I'm back in.
At the end of the day, BOB cheated, well, life goes on... so does EVE
Dont quit the game you love, jump up on the coalation band wagon, heading to Delve
So far, enemies have become friends, new alliances / coalations are being forged, all with one goal in mind, destroy BOB and their pets, once BOB are destroyed, we can start killing eachother again
Dont quit guys/gals, c'mon, jump up on the bandwagon, Fountain's nice this time of year, killing BOB pets, if they bother to undock that is
First off, CCP is a business, a gaming company. They provide a service to all players. No gaming company in there right mind would ever jeopardize their business just so they can win a fictional game. Do you realize how ridiclious your accusations are? Really , think about it. Its not that difficult.
One employee did something bad, CCP punished him for it. They admited it, they apologized and created an entire department called the "The Watchdog" dedicated to keeping their employee's in check.
That is the reality of it. Stop flooding these forums with your baseless theory's. Stop filling people's heads with nonsense and grow up.
The true hurts ...isn't it ? .......... ...cheaters are cheaters ..nothing else ... nothing more ...live with that
Bob and CCP cheet and the the MMO community now it ....... live with that ...Bod.....fan boy
First off, CCP is a business, a gaming company. They provide a service to all players. No gaming company in there right mind would ever jeopardize their business just so they can win a fictional game. Do you realize how ridiclious your accusations are? Really , think about it. Its not that difficult.
One employee did something bad, CCP punished him for it. They admited it, they apologized and created an entire department called the "The Watchdog" dedicated to keeping their employee's in check.
That is the reality of it. Stop flooding these forums with your baseless theory's. Stop filling people's heads with nonsense and grow up.
At the end of the day, BOB cheated, well, life goes on... so does EVE
Dont quit the game you love, jump up on the coalation band wagon, heading to Delve
So far, enemies have become friends, new alliances / coalations are being forged, all with one goal in mind, destroy BOB and their pets, once BOB are destroyed, we can start killing eachother again
Dont quit guys/gals, c'mon, jump up on the bandwagon, Fountain's nice this time of year, killing BOB pets, if they bother to undock that is
the issue is not BoB, it is CCP and how CCP staff have cheated, lied, covered up the missdeeds they have been shown to be guilty of.
It is a real life thing to pay ccp to play their game that they cheat in and show favoritism towards only their buddies.
why pay for the privilage to be cheated and lied too by a company??
real-life > game
joining up, paying ccp, only encourages ccp to continue to act like crooks instead of acting like a business.
ccp the "we cheat for our buddies and are proud of it" company...
one has to be a fool to believe those that were caught red handed lieing cheating and exploiting...
CCP was caught with hand in the cookie jar, and those links show how far they will go to LIE and cover it up.
admitting to one dev...a hand full of the actual thing done...is not admission, it is a scapegoat tactic...blow smoke up the masses asses and the sheeple will believe...
Sorry, but CCP still has not done anything to regain trust. Those things they are so proud of of having started, things that should have been in place to begin with, do not excuse their behavior and unwillingness to punish their own or thier buddies that benefitted off their corrupt employees abuse of power.
P.S. - as most know, there have been multiple incidents of corruption, cheating, and abuse of power by ccp and their volunteers....so be informed before you make a decision to pay to play a game ran by ccp.
btw, anyone that likes what ccp has done, please contact me, I am selling stock in enron...
ccp the "we cheat for our buddies and are proud of it" company...
Hey eveplayer.... we should have and should be CONTINUING to be killing each other. Why should PvP peeps have to spend months gathering ships and resources just to kill BoD? Thats just plain stupid and yes I was aware that the tables were turned and the playing field rigged. I was thinking of coming back to EvE but not after the BoD fiasco. CCP handled it all wrong and the only way it will get across to them is not signing up again.
Is there an MMO that out there that isn't affected by Xao Ping Wang and their money grubbing macro bots? http://wow.stratics.com/content/features/editorials/mf/ Just say no to ingame money/mob farming.... the site says it all
I bet most of these people here are new players or played from exodus and on
and don't even know how crooked ccp really is
for those of you that have been in this game since alpha and do know props to you
ccp is the most crap company out there at the moment and have turned this game into a piece of shit from what it once was
im even going to go as far to say soe>ccp and it really hurts to say that
I remember those days oh how fun they were
Wow. What an intelligent statement you made. You know. I'm in the process of deciding whether or not to start playing again. And it seems that all the posts that say either EVE had a problem and fixed it or it wasn't that huge a deal and it's being dealt with are much more articulate and intelligent than the posts attacking CCP. All you guys can do is spout profanities and insults at CCP. I wouldn't acknolwedge you either if I were them. The fact that so many of you guys are leaving the game makes me want to go back more. It's kinda like all the trash just got taken out. Thanks for making my decision easy. I'm back in.
lol have fun
if only ccp would open a chaos server + engine upgrades and some balance changes here an there
Comments
Enron was guilty of accounting fraud. How does that compare to what one man in CCP did? Who cheated in a fictional game? LOL WOW
You are the one who brought business into this. You claimed that no company in their right mind would jeopardize their business. To quote you "Think about it, It's not that difficult." Contrary to your seeming belief that a company is infallable, companies in fact are run by humans. They fail for the same reasons human beings fail. The question highlighted by the OP asks us "Is CCP in their right mind?" You seem to give them a pass and say that they are in their 'right mind'. Others see a track record of corruption, indicating they are not in 'their right mind' and are thus, like Enron, very capable of jeopardizing their own business.
So yes, I am comparing them to a fraudulant company.
Nice to see people understand that this issue is about REAL LIFE and how a RL company behaves, not about a GAME.CCP did bad things to its customers, that is a truth.
CCP is still covering up what they did, that is a truth.
enron...ccp...lie, cheat, steal, coverup what they do, all to line their own pockets with cash...sure seems they have a few things in common.
CCP have admitted to what happened, first truth? things? I believe it was one dev wasn't it not all of CCP? or you know something we don't?
and Im not sure where your second truth is coming from...
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In the beginning the Universe was created,
This made a lot of people angry,
and has been widely regarded as a bad idea.
Well said.
Enron was guilty of accounting fraud. How does that compare to what one man in CCP did? Who cheated in a fictional game? LOL WOW
You are the one who brought business into this. You claimed that no company in their right mind would jeopardize their business. To quote you "Think about it, It's not that difficult." Contrary to your seeming belief that a company is infallable, companies in fact are run by humans. They fail for the same reasons human beings fail. The question highlighted by the OP asks us "Is CCP in their right mind?" You seem to give them a pass and say that they are in their 'right mind'. Others see a track record of corruption, indicating they are not in 'their right mind' and are thus, like Enron, very capable of jeopardizing their own business.
So yes, I am comparing them to a fraudulant company.
Nice to see people understand that this issue is about REAL LIFE and how a RL company behaves, not about a GAME.CCP did bad things to its customers, that is a truth.
CCP is still covering up what they did, that is a truth.
enron...ccp...lie, cheat, steal, coverup what they do, all to line their own pockets with cash...sure seems they have a few things in common.
CCP have admitted to what happened, first truth? things? I believe it was one dev wasn't it not all of CCP? or you know something we don't?
and Im not sure where your second truth is coming from...
ccp the "we cheat for our buddies and are proud of it" company...
I bet most of these people here are new players or played from exodus and on
and don't even know how crooked ccp really is
for those of you that have been in this game since alpha and do know props to you
ccp is the most crap company out there at the moment and have turned this game into a piece of shit from what it once was
im even going to go as far to say soe>ccp and it really hurts to say that
I remember those days oh how fun they were
Dont quit the game you love, jump up on the coalation band wagon, heading to Delve
So far, enemies have become friends, new alliances / coalations are being forged, all with one goal in mind, destroy BOB and their pets, once BOB are destroyed, we can start killing eachother again
Dont quit guys/gals, c'mon, jump up on the bandwagon, Fountain's nice this time of year, killing BOB pets, if they bother to undock that is
The true hurts ...isn't it ? .......... ...cheaters are cheaters ..nothing else ... nothing more ...live with that
Bob and CCP cheet and the the MMO community now it ....... live with that ...Bod.....fan boy
give my regards to blacklight
www.fohguild.org/forums/mmorpg-general-discussion/27167-eve-bob-lv-vs-south-east.html
Great thread about the WAR..
It is a real life thing to pay ccp to play their game that they cheat in and show favoritism towards only their buddies.
why pay for the privilage to be cheated and lied too by a company??
real-life > game
joining up, paying ccp, only encourages ccp to continue to act like crooks instead of acting like a business.
ccp the "we cheat for our buddies and are proud of it" company...
dev is a ccp employee...DUHHHHH
and ccp did not enforce the rules against those that cheated (thier buddies) so yes, you blame CCP. DUHH.
ccp the "we cheat for our buddies and are proud of it" company...
myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp
CCP was caught with hand in the cookie jar, and those links show how far they will go to LIE and cover it up.
admitting to one dev...a hand full of the actual thing done...is not admission, it is a scapegoat tactic...blow smoke up the masses asses and the sheeple will believe...
Sorry, but CCP still has not done anything to regain trust. Those things they are so proud of of having started, things that should have been in place to begin with, do not excuse their behavior and unwillingness to punish their own or thier buddies that benefitted off their corrupt employees abuse of power.
P.S. - as most know, there have been multiple incidents of corruption, cheating, and abuse of power by ccp and their volunteers....so be informed before you make a decision to pay to play a game ran by ccp.
btw, anyone that likes what ccp has done, please contact me, I am selling stock in enron...
ccp the "we cheat for our buddies and are proud of it" company...
Is there an MMO that out there that isn't affected by Xao Ping Wang and their money grubbing macro bots?
http://wow.stratics.com/content/features/editorials/mf/
Just say no to ingame money/mob farming.... the site says it all
lol have fun
if only ccp would open a chaos server + engine upgrades and some balance changes here an there
/misses dual mwd's + ab days