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What is the reason why Huxley will have advertisements?

CeylousCeylous Member Posts: 134
I'm looking forward to a FPSMMO thats a little different  from planetside but not much different.(finiky I know) Just a game thats a FPSMMO that is managed better than planetside was. I'm sure that this game isn't going to be a duplicate of PS but I do think that there needs to be more MMO's made like huxley  thats based on the MMOFPS model. Now having said that here are some questions that I have with some probable questions that some of you can mix around in your gray piece of flesh called a noggin.



How many critically acclaimed, and outright popular MMO's have used ads in there games?



What is the reason why Webzen would put ads in their game?

Potential Answers....



#1

They put ads in the game to make the game cost less for folks to play whether right at release or later on.



#2

The developers already know ahead of time that the games gunna bomb so they need as much money as they can right at the start. (I dont think this at all but I thought I would put in here as a potential answer anyways)



#3

Webzen isn't made of money and really does need advertising money to make the game work, and with updates and new content that needs to be made, this makes it necessary evil due to development costs, debugging, etc.



Heres another question that I have that might be of some use to this discussion......



Has there ever been a successful MMO that had any ingame advertisement?......(I don't believe so) but don't hesitate to correct me on that.



Theres more potential answers to these questions I'm sure but please feel free.












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  • AcidHell2AcidHell2 Member Posts: 5
    the answer simply is for money, either they can reduce the monthly cost or give us increased servers and or updated content.



    do we know how it's going to be implemented?
  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615
    On what grounds do you say its going to bomb?

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  • thaakthaak Member Posts: 67
    Unless the game is going to have pop up advertisements in the middle of gameplay, this whole advertisement deal doesn't bother me that much. It's a business. They are playing this like a business, and they want to make money off of the game, both through sponsorship and sales. I don't think they would go through with a game that they are SO sure is going to bomb, that they have to delve into advertisements to make money. I'm not that worried about it at all.

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  • conscript27conscript27 Member Posts: 19
    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    On what grounds do you say its going to bomb?



    Read  "(I dont think this at all but I thought I would put in here as a potential answer anyways)"

     

    This dosen't bother me eather; I think this is one of the few games that it would be appropriate.

  • CeylousCeylous Member Posts: 134
    Thank u conscript for the correction.



    I'm starting to think that webzen either needs money for more content or they might need more money to actually finish it up. Well we shall see. I'm really hoping its a decent game especially if its an MMOFPS because there are so few of them in the MMO scene right now.

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    Is there an MMO that out there that isn't affected by Xao Ping Wang and their money grubbing macro bots?
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    http://wow.stratics.com/content/features/editorials/mf/
    Just say no to ingame money/mob farming.... the site says it all

  • DrafellDrafell Member Posts: 588
    It's a logical step. AO already has in game advertising, and I would not be surprised if other MMO's didn't start introducing advertisements (in the right game context). MMO's are big businesses now with large, predictable and captive audiences. If you have those people staring at a screen for X hours a day, the media industry is going to find some way to take advantage of it to sell more stuff.



    I am most interested in seeing how a softs drinks company can introduce advertising in your typical fantasy MMO for their flagship product, without breaking immersion.
  • benhaminebenhamine Member Posts: 74
    The advertisements will probably take the form of a Coca-cola machine in a building or a AMD Billboard over a highway.  I don't see it as that big of a problem unless it hinders my game play.  Chances are (by the looks of some of the in-game footage) stuff is going to be too fast paced for you to even notice the ads.  Instead they will sink in subliminally



    -Benhamine
  • KemenlithKemenlith Member Posts: 263
    Originally posted by benhamine

    The advertisements will probably take the form of a Coca-cola machine in a building or a AMD Billboard over a highway.  I don't see it as that big of a problem unless it hinders my game play.  Chances are (by the looks of some of the in-game footage) stuff is going to be too fast paced for you to even notice the ads.  Instead they will sink in subliminally



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    That is definitely what it will be. Its the same thing as in Battlefield 2142.

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  • NajzeroNajzero Member UncommonPosts: 26

    I think one reason why in-game advertising will be alright in this game is because it is a Sci-Fi game, set in the "not-so-distant" future. So maybe some companies made it through the astroid bombardment?  Thats the only reason I can see it working in this game. BUT I do think they companies that do advertise in this game, items should be put in game to go with the advertisements,

    ex:

    if Coca-Cola was to advertise they should have vending machines with coke that raise ur HP when drinking;

    or if NIKE was to advertise you can buy special combat boots from vendors that are NIKEs.. etc.

  • TalynTalyn Member UncommonPosts: 587
    I'd say the reason Webzen opted for in-game ads is that the MMOFPS genre is largely unproven at this point. The only other big name MMOFPS is PlanetSide and I don't think I need to go into how successful *cough* PS has been for you to get the point. Devs come up with a base number of subscriptions they need to break even, more will make them profitable. Even if the game kicks ass, if the players don't come because they're not willing yet to pay subscription fees for an FPS experience, the money from the advertisers will hopefully make up the difference.
  • njainjai Member Posts: 77
    Well actually PS was somewhat of a success... When I used to play there was a hell of a lot of players... But I dunno if SOE is cursed or what, but they always introduce shit to turn away their subs... I'd say about 40% of people liked BFRs... That Core Combat crap or w/e was called... Id say about 10-15% liked it. Also there just wasn't enough "free updates". Look at about every other MMO... they introduce more things then just nerfs in their updates.



    I don't know if its just a coincedence that SOE games get screwed over by lack of patches/get patches that ruin the game, or if they have a hand in what content is added... But I do try to stay away from their games.

    Darkfall for now.

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  • XzenXzen Member UncommonPosts: 2,607
    I don't ming in game advertisment as long as I'm not paying 15$ a month. If there is in game advertisment we should get a price reduction on the subscription fee.
  • TalynTalyn Member UncommonPosts: 587
    If it's anything like the in-game ads in BF2142 you most likely won't even notice them, the action is happening too fast to pay attention to what the billboards, posters, and other environmental decorations actually say. And I stand by my opinion that the ads are to help guarantee some money (hopefully a profit) if the player base (yes, at a normal $15/month) isn't enough on its own.
  • plexxityplexxity Member Posts: 13
    Talyn makes a valid point, i dont even notice Adds in games, and i mean is it really that big of a deal???



    i guess adds just dont bother me.. theres adds at the top and bottom of this website... who cares..

    ^^ Stuff i say ^^

  • SuaveSuave Member Posts: 150

    Considering the fact that the main community gathering areas are actually gigantic cities, it would only make sense for Webzen to take advantage of advertisements and put them in various places.  It helps them fund development and maintenance as well as gives an additional feel of realism to the game when you're walking around the city. 

    I think it's a great idea and would work spelndidly with Huxley, as long as they don't go ad-happy.

  • plexxityplexxity Member Posts: 13
    yeah i think they should literaly put adds in the game, like on billboards and such, i think that would be cool.



    i think if Huxley gets big they may take the adds down... but thats only if they are making a lot of money. Just some speculations.

    ^^ Stuff i say ^^

  • gpettgpett Member Posts: 1,105
    I think the people that have problems with in-game advertising are the ones that have never played asian made MMOs.  Most of the Vietnamese or Korean games have in game cash shops or advertising.  In exchange the games are either completely free, free to download, and/or have no monthly fees.



    I would gladly accept additional advertising splash screens or small in game adds build into the virtual world if I do not have to pay as much for a good game.
  • TommyKHartTommyKHart Member UncommonPosts: 294

    I too don't understand why ppl don't like advitising. I was wondering if they all come from countries with out tvs or newpapers. Maybe the like giving there money away and don't want advisement to reduces or fees.

  • JarloJarlo Member Posts: 221

    PS has in game ads already and they don't bother me.  They have speaking ones in the Santuary that are actually kind of funny.. Everything from army/navy commercials to history channel stuff to intel.

     

    They also have banners in spawn rooms and such that have ads for different computer related or war related things.  It doesn't bother me a bit.

     

  • Berserker202Berserker202 Member Posts: 44
    Originally posted by Jarlo


    PS has in game ads already and they don't bother me.  They have speaking ones in the Santuary that are actually kind of funny.. Everything from army/navy commercials to history channel stuff to intel.
     
    They also have banners in spawn rooms and such that have ads for different computer related or war related things.  It doesn't bother me a bit.
     
    PS is a good example (other hten the sound playing ads) of advertising in a game done well. THe ads are in somewhat obvious places when you exit the spawn tube. However theya re generally small and ya you notice em but they really dont pull you out of the game, so easy to gloss over.
  • NazarosNazaros Member Posts: 215
    Originally posted by Ceylous

    I'm looking forward to a FPSMMO thats a little different  from planetside but not much different.(finiky I know) Just a game thats a FPSMMO that is managed better than planetside was. I'm sure that this game isn't going to be a duplicate of PS but I do think that there needs to be more MMO's made like huxley  thats based on the MMOFPS model. Now having said that here are some questions that I have with some probable questions that some of you can mix around in your gray piece of flesh called a noggin.



    How many critically acclaimed, and outright popular MMO's have used ads in there games?



    What is the reason why Webzen would put ads in their game?

    Potential Answers....



    #1

    They put ads in the game to make the game cost less for folks to play whether right at release or later on.



    #2

    The developers already know ahead of time that the games gunna bomb so they need as much money as they can right at the start. (I dont think this at all but I thought I would put in here as a potential answer anyways)



    #3

    Webzen isn't made of money and really does need advertising money to make the game work, and with updates and new content that needs to be made, this makes it necessary evil due to development costs, debugging, etc.



    Heres another question that I have that might be of some use to this discussion......



    Has there ever been a successful MMO that had any ingame advertisement?......(I don't believe so) but don't hesitate to correct me on that.



    Theres more potential answers to these questions I'm sure but please feel free.













    Yes there was: Runescape uses advertisement, and got over 400 000 paying subscribers now. Given it's 5$ per month, but still: It took only 2 freaks with good java capabilities and some original ideas and they are pilling up the cash "hardcore" now...

    What deserves to be done, deserves to be "well" done...

  • SunkissedSunkissed Member Posts: 5
    There have been good movies made by the help of advertising ,you might have not have noticed it because it was subtle (a mobile phone or soft drink in picture).

    So why not in games as long as it´s subtle and adds to the games immersion and boosts the game so it benefits the player then why not.
  • docs2killdocs2kill Member Posts: 8

    As long as it doesnt crush the illusion i dont mind.

     

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  • BattleshipBattleship Member Posts: 62
    Originally posted by thomas.hart


    I too don't understand why ppl don't like advitising. I was wondering if they all come from countries with out tvs or newpapers. Maybe the like giving there money away and don't want advisement to reduces or fees.
    People don't like in game advertising because most people play video games to get away from the real world and stuff being shoved into your face all the time. I for one hate watching television because of all the ads every few minutes. Everywhere you go advertising is there. Playing video games was a safe haven from the constant bombardment.



    I dont mind in game ads if they are put into the game such as what you have in Anarchy Online or BF 2142 because they are part of the backdrop and do not ruin the immersion.



    However most games that currently use in game ads slap it right in your face. I quit playing 9 dragons when  they put the ads in. Everytime you change an area now you get hit with a billboard that pops up almost in the middle of your screen. They are not immersive and not built into the game. Hence annoying as hell.


  • TommyKHartTommyKHart Member UncommonPosts: 294
    I have nothing I can argue with battleship. Maybe you should join some monks in a mountain if it bothers you so much. I really can't see why you dislike adverts so much.
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