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To get or not get LOTRO

I'm atm currently looking for a new MMORPG to play after I quit my last one. I've played WoW for quite some time now, but I grew tired of it and want to try something new. I've tried EVE online, but I didn't like the game, the main reason was probably that u didn't stand on the ground. From what I've understood LOTRO will soon be released, closer to release than WAR or AoC anyways. Now ofc I'm not sure if the game will be worth to buy, so I would like to have a answer to a few questions.

1. The level system How will the leveling work, will u do the usually mobfarming in order to gain lvl? Will the quests be based on lore, or just simply "kill 20 gorialls"?
2. Moving How will you move in the game? Is by using WASD or clicking? Are u allowed to jump in the game?
3. PvP How will the PvP work, is it different "factions" or can u choose to be a monster? Will there be BG:s or will it be outdoor PvP only?
4. PvE How is the PvE? Is it just simply to double-click/right click or do u have to cast alot of spells or use skills to kill the "mobs"? Do you need to much "skill" to kill the "mobs" or is it easymode?
5. Endgame? Is there a maxlvl? What will you do when u reach the final lvl?
6. Focus? Is the game focused around PvE or PvP?
7. Becoming a monster I've heard that u can actually play a monster in LOTRO, could u give me some information about this?
8. New content Is the content in the game new, or is just the usual stuff in all other MMORPGs. Do they "bring a new level" to the online playing or do they stay and to the welltested stuff?

Thanx in advance for answers and if it's something else u want to add, go ahead. All information is nice.

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  • airheadairhead Member UncommonPosts: 718
    I will answer since your questions cover so many different subjects etc...



    Your options:

    1. If you pre-order (10 bucks) you get into open-beta and can play from Mar 30 up thru May 24. You can convert to retail of course after apr-24, or just choose not to and play lotro for almost 2 months for 10 bucks.

    2. You can get an open-beta key and play for nothing from Apr-6 to Apr-24.

    3. You can take somebody else's word for it... like mine:



    Answers:

    1. quests give more xp than killing mobs. quests based on lore and are good

    2. wasd. jumping on.

    3. pvp. they call it pvmp. There is one large zone that is really a BG, and that is the only place where pvp occurs. Each person can have up to 5 monster characters on a server. once you get to lvl 10, you can zone into the bg as a lvl 50 monster that does quests, fights,etc. Until lots of 'good guys' get to max level, there's not gonna be much to do of course, just fighting mobs. So in a month or so, there will be lvl 50s that will be beaming in and lots of fights happening etc.

    4. You use skills when fighting.

    5. max lvl 50. end game = pvmp + raids + xpack-hopefully-soon

    6. focus = pve

    7. see #3 and other posts.

    8. not much new as far as gameplay. a high ratio of looks / specs. (in other words, for the system requirements, it looks and runs VERY GOOD.... compared with something like VG, that has a very low looks/specs ratio). Lots of room for expansions. Good main story. Good balance of group-vs-solo quests. The fact that quests give more xp than killing makes people very group-friendly, i.e. easy to just see someone running around and group with them finish quest X.



    Bottom line: it's a good first start. If turbine comes out with xpacks or more content at a good rate, it will be a great game. If not, it might fizzle some when WAR / AoC comes out (if they are any good).
  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    You can find the answer to most of your questions here

    lotro.turbine.com/index.php

    I miss DAoC

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    double post - apologies

    I miss DAoC

  • StellosStellos Member UncommonPosts: 1,491
    Well if you read the article in GameInformer this month they basically sum it up by saying it is WoW in LoR setting.  If you like WoW you'd like it, if not wait for a skill-based game like me lol.
  • whitedelightwhitedelight Member Posts: 1,544
    With ganking and rep grinding taken out. Which is a plus.

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  • GodliestGodliest Member Posts: 3,486
    Thanks alot Airhead. Very helpful post. I think I will preorder this game and try it out, seems nice.

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  • sairuscosairusco Member Posts: 133
    Originally posted by airhead

    I will answer since your questions cover so many different subjects etc...



    Your options:

    1. If you pre-order (10 bucks) you get into open-beta and can play from Mar 30 up thru May 24. You can convert to retail of course after apr-24, or just choose not to and play lotro for almost 2 months for 10 bucks.

    2. You can get an open-beta key and play for nothing from Apr-6 to Apr-24.

    3. You can take somebody else's word for it... like mine:



    Unfortunately preordering wont get you into beta in europe :( (A big thanks to codemasters!)  and the topicstarter is from Sweden.



    I'm one of the european players who preordered the game, got my preorder kit right here and I can just watch at the box until 10 days before release since I'm not accepted into the open beta.
  • ASmith84ASmith84 Member Posts: 979
    dont get this game unless your a hardcore lotr fan.  it sucks.
  • KapazoKapazo Member UncommonPosts: 107
    Originally posted by ASmith84

    dont get this game unless your a hardcore lotr fan.  it sucks.



    Why does it sucks

    Explain please!

  • sairuscosairusco Member Posts: 133
    Originally posted by ASmith84

    dont get this game unless your a hardcore lotr fan.  it sucks.
    <sarcasm> Good arguments there, quality post </sarcasm>

    Ok quite pointless to throw down your opinion here without backing it up with some arguments or reasons why you feel like it sucks... you could as well have written "I need to poo!"
  • hundejahrehundejahre Member Posts: 339


    Originally posted by Stellos
    Well if you read the article in GameInformer this month they basically sum it up by saying it is WoW in LoR setting.  If you like WoW you'd like it, if not wait for a skill-based game like me lol.

    It shares a lot of traits with WoW (so do a lot of games) but I know quite a few people who couldn't stand WoW who love LOTRO in beta. I like both.

  • hundejahrehundejahre Member Posts: 339


    Originally posted by ASmith84
    dont get this game unless your a hardcore lotr fan.  it sucks.

    I've gotten fairly far without doing more than a handfull of "core" LOTR related quests, I think you could easily enjoy this game without ever having read the books or seen the movies as long as you like the playstyle and game mechanics. I think you'll enjoy it MORE if you know what the background is, but by no means is it required, at least not as high as I've gotten in beta (level 25).

  • whitedelightwhitedelight Member Posts: 1,544

    I got to 38 in the beta (twice) on my loremaster and enjoyed it big time. It was actually pretty refreshing. What made WoW appeal to people on a grand stand is that is was supposed to be more casual than EQ. Turned out well for them. This game is a tiny bit more casual and you can get a lot done. To claim something sucks without posting a reason or two why is pretty ignorant, but to each his own.

    Between the hardcore LOTR fans and a majority of the people looking to get out of WoW, this game will be a hit.

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  • PrecusorPrecusor Member UncommonPosts: 3,589
    Originally posted by ASmith84

    dont get this game unless your a hardcore lotr fan.  it sucks.
    More reason to get it.. seems Turbine has stuck with the lore and thats a good thing.



    IMHO.
  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    [offtopic]

    Apologies to the OP but since we are way off topic here already I have noticed that  a lot of the really hard core Lord Of the Rings fans are some of the biggest critics of the game, I have been following the game since 99 and Sierra was the developer and seen most of the Similarion thumpers stalk off in disgust. I am more of a casual fan myself (read the books several times and saw the movies once each) and enjoy the game. I do know of one hard core Sim thumper who is also a console game dev who enjoyed the beta immensely though, I think he was really surprised that they could stick to the lore and still make a decent game. He said he still has moments of WTF when he sees a group of elves running through the barrows though :)

    [/offtopic]

    I miss DAoC

  • OBK1OBK1 Member Posts: 637
    Originally posted by Jackdog


    [offtopic]
    Apologies to the OP but since we are way off topic here already I have noticed that  a lot of the really hard core Lord Of the Rings fans are some of the biggest critics of the game, I have been following the game since 99 and Sierra was the developer and seen most of the Similarion thumpers stalk off in disgust. I am more of a casual fan myself (read the books several times and saw the movies once each) and enjoy the game. I do know of one hard core Sim thumper who is also a console game dev who enjoyed the beta immensely though, I think he was really surprised that they could stick to the lore and still make a decent game. He said he still has moments of WTF when he sees a group of elves running through the barrows though :)
    [/offtopic]
    Thank you Jackdog for stating that you have followed this game since 1999, so have I. But when I said so I got posts not believing me, it has been a frustrating journey hasn't it? Nice that we will at last be able to enter Middle earth! I had forgotten it was Sierra that was the developers and since then I think it has changed hands at least twice before coming to Turbine...
  • kramsterkramster Member UncommonPosts: 93
    Originally posted by ASmith84

    dont get this game unless your a hardcore lotr fan.  it sucks.

     

    As a huge fan of the Tolkien's works, i have to say i was disappointed though wouldn't say it actually sucks.

    I have tested this game since September and while it is a stable and fun game it isn't Tolkien and it left me cold.

    It is missing what, for me Tolkien was/is all about...imagination and worse it is lacking any form of the MMO magic that made these games what they were.

    When i first read 'The Hobbit' and later LOTR, it fired my imagination, made me see fiction in a new light as I know it did for countless others. It spawned a whole new industry, genre and ethos of creativity. Sadly Turbine have killed that spirit dead and I am left wishing that they had left well alone, Jackson had his critics but he performed minor surgery compared to this frontal lobotomy.



    Orcs and Goblins in the Shire

    Hobbits armed to the teeth from day one

    More wolves/wargs/bears and badgers than people

    Cardboard cut out story NPC's...Bilbo and Frodo just seemed sooo lifeless

    The only bit that felt right was the Old Forest and that has had paths lined with torches added to totally ruin the one authentic experience the game had.

    the list is endless so I will stop now....

  • airheadairhead Member UncommonPosts: 718
    Originally posted by sairusco

    Originally posted by airhead

    I will answer since your questions cover so many different subjects etc...



    Your options:

    1. If you pre-order (10 bucks) you get into open-beta and can play from Mar 30 up thru May 24. You can convert to retail of course after apr-24, or just choose not to and play lotro for almost 2 months for 10 bucks.

    2. You can get an open-beta key and play for nothing from Apr-6 to Apr-24.

    3. You can take somebody else's word for it... like mine:



    Unfortunately preordering wont get you into beta in europe :( (A big thanks to codemasters!)  and the topicstarter is from Sweden.



    I'm one of the european players who preordered the game, got my preorder kit right here and I can just watch at the box until 10 days before release since I'm not accepted into the open beta.

    ouch. well, that's a bummer. and OP is from Sweden. Also, I don't like the whole split of Europe from the US, even though I don't personally have friends in europe I plan on playing with. That's always been one of the coolest things about the internet imo, is that it closes cultural gaps, and gets people talking that otherwise would never get together.



    But the game will be worth the 10 bucks minimum, even if it's just for 5 weeks instead of 7.

    There's really only a few choices right now:

    - wow / eq2 (old stuff - i've already maxed both games personally... yawn)

    - eve (edgy stuff)

    - lotro and vg (new stuff.... and lotro doesn't have all the probs running that VG has).
  • CerionCerion Member Posts: 1,005

     



    Originally posted by kramster


    Originally posted by ASmith84

    dont get this game unless your a hardcore lotr fan.  it sucks.

     

    As a huge fan of the Tolkien's works, i have to say i was disappointed though wouldn't say it actually sucks.

    I have tested this game since September and while it is a stable and fun game it isn't Tolkien and it left me cold.

    It is missing what, for me Tolkien was/is all about...imagination and worse it is lacking any form of the MMO magic that made these games what they were.

    When i first read 'The Hobbit' and later LOTR, it fired my imagination, made me see fiction in a new light as I know it did for countless others. It spawned a whole new industry, genre and ethos of creativity. Sadly Turbine have killed that spirit dead and I am left wishing that they had left well alone, Jackson had his critics but he performed minor surgery compared to this frontal lobotomy.

     

    Orcs and Goblins in the Shire

    Hobbits armed to the teeth from day one

    More wolves/wargs/bears and badgers than people

    Cardboard cut out story NPC's...Bilbo and Frodo just seemed sooo lifeless

    The only bit that felt right was the Old Forest and that has had paths lined with torches added to totally ruin the one authentic experience the game had.

    the list is endless so I will stop now....





     

    LOTRO is just one interpretation of Middle Earth.  That is how I'm approaching it (some might say rationalizing). When I look at the different artistic interpretations of Middle Earth, can I say that Allen Lee's vision is better than Howe's or Hildebrandt/s?  When I watch the Bakshi animated versions, I'm seeing yet another interpretation of Middle Earth quite different than Peter Jackson's.

    LOTRO has had to make some compromises (some I don't agree with, and some that are quite creative), but the devs have put forth a good-faith effort to be faithful. I can appreciate that.  Compare their effort to say EA Games complete raping of anything Middle Earth, and I think you'll find a new appreciation for LOTRO.



    P.S. from recent patch notes on the beta boards:





    [*]The Old Forest will be re-worked in an upcoming version to have its torches removed (torches?! In the Old Forest? What madness!), the path to Tom Bombadil’s house made more obscure, and other miscellaneous tweaks to make it more lore-appropriate.



    They try to get it right.  I respect them quite a bit for that.

     



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  • Ryun511Ryun511 Member Posts: 82
    Originally posted by whitedelight


    I got to 38 in the beta (twice) on my loremaster and enjoyed it big time. It was actually pretty refreshing. What made WoW appeal to people on a grand stand is that is was supposed to be more casual than EQ. Turned out well for them. This game is a tiny bit more casual and you can get a lot done. To claim something sucks without posting a reason or two why is pretty ignorant, but to each his own.
    Between the hardcore LOTR fans and a majority of the people looking to get out of WoW, this game will be a hit.
    Really? By casual do mean just the amount of time required to play or the level of skill needed? I heard from several people on the forums that this was definitely a more challenging game then WoW, but perhaps the official forums aren't the best place to look for unbiased information.



    Well, whatever. I'll get the pre-order and try it out for myself.
  • kramsterkramster Member UncommonPosts: 93
    Originally posted by Ryun511

    Originally posted by whitedelight


    I got to 38 in the beta (twice) on my loremaster and enjoyed it big time. It was actually pretty refreshing. What made WoW appeal to people on a grand stand is that is was supposed to be more casual than EQ. Turned out well for them. This game is a tiny bit more casual and you can get a lot done. To claim something sucks without posting a reason or two why is pretty ignorant, but to each his own.
    Between the hardcore LOTR fans and a majority of the people looking to get out of WoW, this game will be a hit.
    Really? By casual do mean just the amount of time required to play or the level of skill needed? I heard from several people on the forums that this was definitely a more challenging game then WoW, but perhaps the official forums aren't the best place to look for unbiased information.



    Well, whatever. I'll get the pre-order and try it out for myself.



    The game during beta was casual both in gameplay and in the amount of time needed to 'level up'. They have already started the xp nerfing to slow people down, not sure if it was always intended or they just realised it doesn't have enough content for hardcore players. It was possible to pretty much level using solo quests alone until level 40 but then you required a group as xp from mobs is low.

    The gameplay is, in some ways, easier than wow as you don't have half as many skills to worry about and combat remains press A then B then A again. Once you hit 40 you will find that nearly every mob is an elite or you have to go through an army of elites to get to the non elite you are after.

    With the xp rate slowed, requiring more of the quests to be completed to level, together with the insane number of elites, this game will rapidly become a grind and a soloists nightmare....IMO

  • AngelboundAngelbound Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,437
    What the hek are you talking about? I heard completely differant across these boards for instance you get alot of abilitys and more verstility in your classes and then you cannot get past level 15 in beta on lotro lol.
  • DevelopmentDevelopment Member Posts: 52

    @ Angelbound cap at lvl 15 is only for open beta since character can be transfered when the game goes life, clsed beta didt have lvl cap at 15

    @OP: imho this game in comparison to lots of the other mmo's (played nearly every mmo) this game is made to Relax, loved the fact that in beta when i got my first instrument found myself playing music with various peeps for over an hour and not even thinking about lvls/gear or currency.

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  • rwyanrwyan Member UncommonPosts: 468
    I really enjoyed LoTRO.  There were some qualities about it that made it more than just what people would call a "WoW clone".  However, I am probably going to hold off on it because there are some other heavy duty mmos coming around the corner that seem would interest me more(GnH, AoC, WAR, Spellborn).  Plus, UO will be getting its upgrade soon and that will hold me over until those come out.
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