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LotRO Will Dominate
Tuutob
Member Posts: 607
This game is amazing. More depth than WoW, more quests than anything I've ever played, it has voice support, you can make your own music...
I have never felt like I could spend all day playing something and not get bored. There's just too much to do.
Why is it going to kill WoW? Easy.
After the three movies, everyone knows the story (at least to the point where they will get what's going on) and loves it. It is the base for the whole fantasy genre, it created the tall, fair elves, the brutish orcs and the stocky, fierce dwarves.
Secondly, it's easy to pick up and play. Even when you're not questing, you're wondering whats that on top of that hill, or 'damn, can I kill that thing?'. then, you can settle down and play your flute. I actually managed to get a game of HORSE going with another guy using our guitars.
Third, it's inviting. There's no sense of being rushed because everyone else is enjoying their surroundings as much as you. Its not like the Barrens in WoW where you just wanna level out of there, every place has its own intriguing element.
Overall, it is the most solid beta I have ever played.
I have never felt like I could spend all day playing something and not get bored. There's just too much to do.
Why is it going to kill WoW? Easy.
After the three movies, everyone knows the story (at least to the point where they will get what's going on) and loves it. It is the base for the whole fantasy genre, it created the tall, fair elves, the brutish orcs and the stocky, fierce dwarves.
Secondly, it's easy to pick up and play. Even when you're not questing, you're wondering whats that on top of that hill, or 'damn, can I kill that thing?'. then, you can settle down and play your flute. I actually managed to get a game of HORSE going with another guy using our guitars.
Third, it's inviting. There's no sense of being rushed because everyone else is enjoying their surroundings as much as you. Its not like the Barrens in WoW where you just wanna level out of there, every place has its own intriguing element.
Overall, it is the most solid beta I have ever played.
Comments
I surely hope that this MMORPG lives up to its expectation.
Dont wont to get involved in the "Is this game going to kill WoW" topic, but if they create an excellent environment then the gamers will come.
The factor that makes and breaks this game for me is the community, i hate ghost towns, the more the merrier in my opinion.
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Playing - LotRO
Retired - WoW/GW/CoH/CoV/DnL
Waiting For - AoC/WAR
Boring books, boring uninspired gameplay.
Have to give props to Tolkien for starting up the fantasy fiction novels from other authors but that ....doesnt relate to the LOTR mmorpg in any way so ...
This game has some originality but not much if you take away the "LOTR" brand name. I bet that if this wasn't "LOTR" many people would overlook this game.
WTB Shadowbane 2
I won't even get into a troll fight with you, but I will say this.... I was going to pass the game up because I thought it was going to ride the LOTR namesake power.. I was lucky enough to get invited to closed beta and get addicted to it quickly. That is why I am urging everyone with even a passive interest in it to check it out during open beta here in less than a week. I also urge people like you who have not experienced it first hand to give it an honest try. I won't fault you for not liking it if you try it
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psyconius Cthulhu
Gothika Studios
I don't think WoW has much to worry about, but I would wager that by the end of the year LoTRO will have the second largest subscriber base of any western MMO. There is allot to be said for delivering a solid game, it doesn't have to be entirely innovative, the graphics cutting edge or the storyline original. But since this game is an improvement on what ever else is out there now, has great graphics and has an original storyline in addition to the LotR story, I don't see how it can miss.
The main reason why you see people hating games with monthly fees is because games we're ment to buy from stores and play.. not buy from stores and pay to play.. also because most of us like to play other games besides just 1 game.
I refuse to play LOTRO due to the $15 dollar month fee.
Seriously its stupid to buy a game that requires you to pay more of your hard earned money for a game that you'd probably get bored of and never play again.
Possibly best free MMORPG in the world that wins with gameplay: Fly for Fun.
(I apologize to those of you people who we're offended by my opinion.)
In my defense I'll say that I have read enough about this game from many posts and official articles and interviews to know that its not for me.
But its true that I havent tried it and that there might be something that I like, there is always that possibility.
But then again, I cant even bring myself to try the game out because I have 0 interest in it. Kinda same reason I would never buy any "Barbie" games, no offense.
WTB Shadowbane 2
However, do you think it is just a coincidence that F2P games are much lower quality than the ones that require a monthly fee(generally speaking, of course)? Guild Wars is the only F2P game that comes close to matching the quality of the other games that require a fee, and their customer service is crappy in comparison
Besides.. IMHO MMO's are the ONLY games that are worth paying for(because you have to... other single player games are a bit easier to... acquire *whistles inconspicuously*)
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psyconius Cthulhu
Gothika Studios
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psyconius Cthulhu
Gothika Studios
If the game does not have any worthy online attribute it is not worth $50-$60 you'd pay for it and thats true even for PC games these days.
I used to be a big console fan but $15 for a game that you would enjoy for months and maybe even years is a lot? I say its well worth it. Consoles are obsolete my friend unless you play Marvel VS Campcom ... then joysticks rule!
Consoles coming out these days are poor people's PCs .... although PS3 changed that roflez
WTB Shadowbane 2
I dunno, I bought it for my son, figured he'd like it. We got the pre-order into beta thingy and he lasted all of 20 minutes before he told me he didn't like it and wanted to play WoW. I tried it myself and while it was mildly interesting it's "feel" was very sloppy (mashing buttons and you wonder if anything was happening for example).
I hope it does well, I love the books and movies. I just not sure how well it's gunna do it the marketed group such as my son can't last 20 minutes.
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Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
A developer at EA Mythic (they're doing WAR) said a very wise thing in a recent interview. To paraphrase:
'Games don't kill other games, only developer/publishers kill games'
Unless Blizzards suddenly forgets everything they ever learned over the last ten years, no game will 'kill' WoW, the same way WoW did not 'kill' EQ2. Last I saw that game was still alive.
Can LotRO take a bite out of WoW's market? Certainly. How big a bite will remain to be seen.
I will admit I'm more interested in this game than I have been. I stopped following it for a while but it sounds like perhaps Turbine learned from the whole DDO thing.
Well, this is my opinion of why this game will not dominate unless they change some things. Its mostly a copy from a previous post I made, but it fits how I would respond to this post as well.
First, the environments look great (best I've seen in an mmo)I had fun with the progression of my character at first, but you get so many different skills and traits so early in the game that, after a while, progression and learning new traits and skills wasn't very rewarding. There wasn't a lot that I felt like I really earned. Also, I really wish they could have done a little more with the gear in the game. Some of the armor in the game, and the seeming lack of any definitive armor sets, will make a lot of toons look ridiculous. Picture your toon with a purple pointed hat, a yellow sleeveless vest, green gloves, orange pants, red boots, and a blue cloak... Not exactly how I think my Epic hero should look, but I guarantee you'll see plenty of ppl like that in game. There is some pretty nice looking armor in the game, you'll just need to find a true set by trial and error, and don't be surprised if the best gear available to you at some point makes you look like a blind middle-earth transient.
Over all though, I think the biggest part of the game that keeps me from saying "I'm definitely gonna buy this game" are the quests. Aside from the main story line, which I happen to like, I find a lot of repetitive, and well... boring quests. Perfect example: Npc says' "go to my neighbor's house, and ask him if he needs any help" You turn around to see the neighbor (whom you could spit on from where you stand), take about eight steps, and talk to him.... Npc says' "I need to harvest some pipeweed could you help? Great! Its in my garden." You turn to your right to see the blinking "here I am" pipeweed about 5 feet away in his garden. Go click on it to collect, take about 5 steps back to talk to the neighbor in distress again, and collect your reward - 700 experience points, some money, and a weapon that is better than anything available to you at the weapon shops for saving the day! I understand that some of the quests get a little more difficult as you go, but there are far too many quests like this one, at any level, that are boring, seem pointless, and make you wonder what the hell they were thinking when they wrote it.
These things along with the fact that there are 4 or 5 other very strong-looking mmorpgs set to release in 6-7 months, make me believe that LOTRO won't "dominate" longer than a year, if that long.
Apologies for the double post
Apologies for the double post
You bet turbines investors would take any profit that they could after the complete utter failure of DnDO... I mean that game brought awful to a whole new level.
thats why no mmorpg should make games for console b/c they all expect to play for free and we all know free=junk but they dont mind spending $1000 for a new console which last about 2 yrs and $99 for a new game which last about 1 day if u are hardcore.
My theme song.
The name always makes me see hundreds Elf Hunters with name very close to the name Legolas run around grouping with human mages in gray robes named something close to Gandalf. The name in itself makes the game seem so ridicolous, but when u actually come to play it I must say I like it.
So far the steering feels very strange, I can't describe what it is, but it's something wrong. The graphics on the characters are also kind of weird... Very nice game tho, but no WoW killer, to close to WoW to actually steal WoWs playerbase. The WoW players just see another WoW and won't change game because they alrdy are in a good game.
I've preordered, I've tried about 5 of the classes. My
biggest comment is, 'where's the wizard'... ie, I don't
like the classes, they are clearly skewed to melee.
Ya, its pretty, but I fail to see how anyone thinks these
quests are somehow 'better' than quests in WoW
or anywhere else, its just connected to some story
you saw a movie about.... so? Go gather 4 plants,
go kill 6 wolves, go find George and give him this
package... Sound familiar? OK, so its Bilbo rather
than George, if that trips your trigger, then thats
good for you....
Unlike Blizzard who has an interest in having millions
of players clutter their servers, I rather enjoy it when
its thinned out a bit, so hey, its goodness if some
like LOTRO
And if anyone would know how a developer/publisher can kill a good game, it would be EA. I don't think even Mythic will be able to overcome the stigma that EA caries with it. I wish them luck though, I've always thought highly of Mythic, they were a company that really seemed to put an effort into customer satisfaction. Hard to say how things will work out now that they have sold themselves to The Beast.
A developer at EA Mythic (they're doing WAR) said a very wise thing in a recent interview. To paraphrase:
'Games don't kill other games, only developer/publishers kill games'
And if anyone would know how a developer/publisher can kill a good game, it would be EA. I don't think even Mythic will be able to overcome the stigma that EA caries with it. I wish them luck though, I've always thought highly of Mythic, they were a company that really seemed to put an effort into customer satisfaction. Hard to say how things will work out now that they have sold themselves to The Beast.
I dont understand why people dislike EA so much? Ive had great customer service with them.
Grinding is bad, thats one of the big facts nowadays, isnt it ? Mindless, repetitive grinding is just for asian games, right ? Well ladies and gentlemen, by level 8 in LotR you get the first glimpse of what will eventually become a main part of the endgame grind: Traits. Its already in the game, all the info is there, and a few already noticed it... to further advance your character at the level cap, you need to level your best traits. And some of these require a LOT of grinding. Actually more than in any asian MMO I know.
Example: Guardian class, shield swipe is a reaction skill on a successful block, with also a decent cooldown. First trait step is 400 (doable if you use it constantly and pay attention by level 20ish), but if you combine the highest levels of the best traits, you are looking at well over 10k skill uses and kills of specific mobs just to level your traits. I like it. But you bet its gonna be one riot when suddenly groups are asking for specific trait levels as minimum.
Camping is bad, right ? Contested, non-instanced compulsory content is bad, right ? But even now, on beta servers in europe that dont suffer from the pre-release race to 15 that the US servers have, any quest which requires certain kills is practically overcamped 5 player to 1 mob. It wont take long for people to realize that too many people in too little space is just as bad as too few people in too large a world (hello vanguard)
And last but not least, the holy trinity. Somehow, everyone is bashing games like Guild Wars, Vanguard, even Conan, and at the same time asking for new, innovative design. LotR revolves around Minstrels healing Guardians. Both of these classes are not overly popular, and fairly strong soloers, so I expect a massive LFG problem to arise within 2 weeks at max, for the "fun" DPS classes.
Dont get me wrong ,I am looking forward to LotR as a game with content largely unknown to me. But the fuel for the fires is already there, and as soon as the professional trolls leave Vanguard and move to LotR, I expect a LOT of complaints about so-called bad design.