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Why LotRO is going to hurt WoW

Well both these games are very similar in playstyle, requirements and so on. Both big names and both have a chance to be competitive in the market. However, as many people know, you need to have an "edge" in the market to get ahead and LotRO can offer one thing WoW will not, and cannot offer to player EVER.



LotRO give's every 12 year old moron a chance to roleplay as Legolass, and he can even fit into the playstyle of the game. I personally cannot wait for the launch to see the impact on WoW. How will we all survive when all the nightelf (and now Bloodelf) hunters dissapear from our servers.



Id like to send a personal thanks to LotRO online for acting as an idiot sponge for Blizzard.
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  • pwkalexpwkalex Member Posts: 5
    I'm sure it will, it's something new and WoW is a boring. Instanced PvP could only be fun for so long.



    I know LotrO doesnt even have PvP but at least it's got that "new game" thing going on for it. and it doesnt completely suck like Vanguard did.
  • Wraith0Wraith0 Member UncommonPosts: 46

    LOTRO has some nice new concepts going for it, is more fun to play and seem to be avoiding the horrid faction grinds of WoW.  I also love the deed ssytem, small rewards for doing things like exploreing, questing and gridning mobs.

     

    i just hope all the WoW kids stay in wow :)

     

    As for me I bid farewell to my WoW account and Hello LOTRO

  • PyritePyrite Member Posts: 309
    Originally posted by Atomicide



    LotRO give's every 12 year old moron a chance to roleplay as Legolass...

    That name is not allowed under the ToS.

    The most important part of reading is reading between the lines.

  • AndoraeAndorae Member Posts: 103
    Another doom'day thread *sigh* getting annoying, there should be some sort of "jehova's witness" warning sign on everyone of these threads.
  • AntipathyAntipathy Member UncommonPosts: 1,362
    Originally posted by Atomicide

    How will we all survive when all the nightelf (and now Bloodelf) hunters dissapear from our servers.

    Not sure. That party will come with a hell of a hangover.
  • RuthgarRuthgar Member Posts: 730
    For every person that leaves WoW more come to replace him.

    I played WoW from Nov 04- Mar 07. I have seen plenty of my friends leave WoW for good.

    However, every day there is a noob joining and asking where is Mankrik's wife.



    I left WoW for LOTRO like all of my real life friends.  We can choose to continue to play LOTRO until something better comes along or go back to WoW. Since Blizzard never deletes the characters it is a no brainer to try something cheaper and new.

    I prefer LOTRO.



    I do think that WoW's growth will slow after AOC and WAR are released. Still WoW, won't really be hurt, unless by only having 10 million players instead of 12 is being hurt.
  • RecantRecant Member UncommonPosts: 1,586
    LOTR hurt WoW?  Not going to happen, not even a proverbial scratch. Why does every new game get asked if it's going to 'hurt' WoW, anyway?  Some people have an unhealthy obesession with seeing good things fail.



    If anything, LOTR is going to attract more kids than WoW or EQ.  For those bored with WoW already, they have something new to grow quickly bored with, but for the rest of us, it's business as usual.



    I don't think we'll be seeing Blizzard getting worried under their huge piles of cash, do you? :P



    The only thing LOTR is going to hurt is the other MMOs scraping the bottom of the subscriber barrel.

    Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...

  • LordcrapalotLordcrapalot Member Posts: 191

    LOTRO will hurt WoW, as its among other things fresh compared to WoW, and its the same kind of gameplay so people can jump right in. WoW isnt made to be everchanging or alive, neither is LOTRO. It also from ive seen seems to be of better quality then WoW, and the name and univers itself is also an advantage over WoW.

    But I really dont care about WoW nor do I care about LOTRO, peope will play what they find the best and where their friends are playing. But as I play neither im overly to one side.

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  • FaelanFaelan Member UncommonPosts: 819
    Originally posted by Atomicide



    LotRO give's every 12 year old moron a chance to roleplay as Legolass, and he can even fit into the playstyle of the game. I personally cannot wait for the launch to see the impact on WoW. How will we all survive when all the nightelf (and now Bloodelf) hunters dissapear from our servers.



    I think you got it all backwards. It's the more old and mature crowd that just might pack up their bags and leave for LoTRO because they're sick and tired of the WoW playerbase. Certainly not the 12 year olds. Why? Because LoTRO won't let you fart a fireball every second, sneeze lightning bolts, dual wield weapons the size of a monster truck, nor let you eat demons for breakfast, giant mechanical constructs for lunch and dragons for dinner... while pwning n00bs on a PvP server nonetheless. What you can do in WoW pales in comparison to LoTRO. You and I might appreciate Tolkien's fine work of literary art, but to the 12 year old, it's only slightly more appealing than going with granny to a salvation army store.



    No, honestly. I have a 13 year old nephew and when he talks about WoW, it's all about ultimate power. Levels, gold, phat lewt and pwning n00bs with weapons of mass destruction. He thinks Legolas is uber because of what he did in the movies, but he doesn't give a damn about the books, Middle Earth, or even what an Elf is supposed to be like other than a pointy eared human. Heck, I bet he even fast forwards through the non-battle scenes in order to get to "the good stuff".



    WoW gives him all what he wants. The chance to play a pointy eared cool looking humanoid armed with a bow of ultimate destruction that can take out crazy looking monsters many times his own size. LoTRO is like a... weak... fart... in comparison. I certainly don't see him or any of his friends for that matter (remember, playing WoW is considered cool among his friends) switching to LoTRO.

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  • MeridionMeridion Member UncommonPosts: 1,495
    LotRO won't hurt WoW to an extent that would really matter. Why is that?



    - WoW has a very dynamic flux of joiners and quitters. I AM sure many will leave WoW for LotRO, but just as many will start WoW. There are ARMIES of noobs all across the realms right now, this game is far from vet-status, like other titles (EQ, EQ2, DaoC or EvE). Actually, in my old guild (which I just left), there were almost only newbies with 5 months or less on their backs.



    - WoW provides different setting possibilities. It's a comic lore in every way, it delievers a flat ass plot thats surely entertaining, but its comical - which LotRO is just not. Sure, LotRO will attract kids too, but a lot of players, I almost daresay the majority, will come from Tolkien Fans of more serious games.



    Bottom line - LotRO won't hurt WoW that much, it will hurt the lowies in the genre a LOT more, like EQ2, EQ or even DAoC, since WoW can afford to lose 2, 3 million subscribers and STILL be a triumphant success...
  • HowellsalexhHowellsalexh Member Posts: 5
    Originally posted by Atomicide

    Well both these games are very similar in playstyle, requirements and so on. Both big names and both have a chance to be competitive in the market. However, as many people know, you need to have an "edge" in the market to get ahead and LotRO can offer one thing WoW will not, and cannot offer to player EVER.



    LotRO give's every 12 year old moron a chance to roleplay as Legolass, and he can even fit into the playstyle of the game. I personally cannot wait for the launch to see the impact on WoW. How will we all survive when all the nightelf (and now Bloodelf) hunters dissapear from our servers.



    Id like to send a personal thanks to LotRO online for acting as an idiot sponge for Blizzard.
    I played WoW for one and a half years, and have now been playing LOTRO for a few weeks. Let me tell you, the community is FAR more mature than the WoW community ever will be, so please cease posting such nonsense.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,060
    Originally posted by Howellsalexh

    Originally posted by Atomicide

    Well both these games are very similar in playstyle, requirements and so on. Both big names and both have a chance to be competitive in the market. However, as many people know, you need to have an "edge" in the market to get ahead and LotRO can offer one thing WoW will not, and cannot offer to player EVER.



    LotRO give's every 12 year old moron a chance to roleplay as Legolass, and he can even fit into the playstyle of the game. I personally cannot wait for the launch to see the impact on WoW. How will we all survive when all the nightelf (and now Bloodelf) hunters dissapear from our servers.



    Id like to send a personal thanks to LotRO online for acting as an idiot sponge for Blizzard.
    I played WoW for one and a half years, and have now been playing LOTRO for a few weeks. Let me tell you, the community is FAR more mature than the WoW community ever will be, so please cease posting such nonsense. My informal survey of my 14 year old son and his 6 or so WOW playing friends is:



    5 of them plan on staying strictly with WOW and appear to not even be curious to play LoTRO...( I offered to let them try it out)

    1 of them (my son) will join me in LotRO on an occasional basis..but he'll still play more WOW.  (Probably because I threatened to cancel his account ) 



    His friends are all 13-15, 2 are female and they seem quite happy to stay where they are.  LotRO lore isn't nearly as appealing, it was just some overlong movies to most of them. 



    On the basis of my highly unscientific survey, I predict that LotRO will have the more mature community...

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  • PhoenixsPhoenixs Member Posts: 2,646
    Originally posted by Pyrite

    Originally posted by Atomicide



    LotRO give's every 12 year old moron a chance to roleplay as Legolass...

    That name is not allowed under the ToS. Nonetheless they pop up like a plague. Alongside all the others like Gimgli, Araborn and so on (Leerooy, is the worst so far ). I don't think the gm are able to cope with that many And this is only in Early Access...
  • Wilhem04Wilhem04 Member Posts: 2
    You seen the film, watched the books, read, seen or heard all sorts of things about LOTR... Even maybe played the games...



    SO HOW IS LOTR ONLINE ANYWHERE NEW?



    LOTR will not hurt WoW in any way... yes its a "New" game but nothing new to discover... u already know the places, so what a boring game it will be...



    Because there will be nothing new and exciting... to some, yes WoW is boring, but hey dont just powerlevel to 70 and then grind honor or items... chill with people, level slow, its a MMO not a rat race....



    So in my opinion, No WoW will not be scratched!





    As i said it before...

    you already know what LOTR is and about...



    Name me one Famous MMORPG that comes from a Book/Movie/Comic and so forth.....

    And no City of Villans/Heros does not count... lol/ because u get new place and such!!!!
  • Enforcer71Enforcer71 Member UncommonPosts: 780

    I doubt LOTR will make much of a dent to the subscription base of WoW. The game is nicely polished but then again so is WoW. However the combat in LOTR is boring, and so much is missing from the lore and many other things.

    The only games I see that may take away from WoW is Warhammer or Age of Conan, and I would give AOC the upper hand out of those 2 because the combat is unique and different.

    WoW isnt going anywhere anytime soon, hell if other games are making it on 100k subscriptions then WoW will be around a long time. Those of you who think WoW is just a kiddie game, well thats your opinion and your intitled to it. The game is what you make of it, rush to max lvl and guess what, you will get bored. Play the game to have fun and it will last a long time, In my guild we have members of all ages and some of those are in the 50's.

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  • AntipathyAntipathy Member UncommonPosts: 1,362
    Originally posted by Howellsalexh



    I played WoW for one and a half years, and have now been playing LOTRO for a few weeks. Let me tell you, the community is FAR more mature than the WoW community ever will be, so please cease posting such nonsense.


    LOTRO is still in Beta. If the kids join, it will probably be after it hits retail and shows up in their local game store.



    The quality of a game's community can't be properly judged until a few months after the game has actually launched.
  • AutomatorAutomator Member Posts: 16
    I agree with Wilhem. WoW won't be touched. Yea of course people are gonna wanna try out LotRO, but guaranteed not all who play it will like it and even if many people do like it, WoW still has so many loyal supporters and gains new ones everyday. They might be noobs but if you've been playing long enough you shouldn't have to deal with them and no one ever said you had to talk to/answer them. And if WoW does get 'hurt' it will be minuscule and when the next expansion comes out you ALL will be back just to see what it looks like because reading the content details won't be enough.

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  • MosseMosse Member Posts: 7


    Originally posted by Atomicide

    LotRO give's every 12 year old moron a chance to roleplay as Legolass, and he can even fit into the playstyle of the game. I personally cannot wait for the launch to see the impact on WoW. How will we all survive when all the nightelf (and now Bloodelf) hunters dissapear from our servers.


    Heh, you made me laugh :)


    Originally posted by Faelan
    I think you got it all backwards. It's the more old and mature crowd that just might pack up their bags and leave for LoTRO because they're sick and tired of the WoW playerbase. Certainly not the 12 year olds. Why? Because LoTRO won't let you fart a fireball every second, sneeze lightning bolts, dual wield weapons the size of a monster truck, nor let you eat demons for breakfast, giant mechanical constructs for lunch and dragons for dinner... while pwning n00bs on a PvP server nonetheless. What you can do in WoW pales in comparison to LoTRO. You and I might appreciate Tolkien's fine work of literary art, but to the 12 year old, it's only slightly more appealing than going with granny to a salvation army store.No, honestly. I have a 13 year old nephew and when he talks about WoW, it's all about ultimate power. Levels, gold, phat lewt and pwning n00bs with weapons of mass destruction. He thinks Legolas is uber because of what he did in the movies, but he doesn't give a damn about the books, Middle Earth, or even what an Elf is supposed to be like other than a pointy eared human. Heck, I bet he even fast forwards through the non-battle scenes in order to get to "the good stuff".WoW gives him all what he wants. The chance to play a pointy eared cool looking humanoid armed with a bow of ultimate destruction that can take out crazy looking monsters many times his own size. LoTRO is like a... weak... fart... in comparison. I certainly don't see him or any of his friends for that matter (remember, playing WoW is considered cool among his friends) switching to LoTRO.

    True dat. WoW is more what child's like with all that cartoonish graphics and all huge monsters (Gruul the Dragonkiller is a good example of HUUUUGE) you can kill in WoW

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    Over and out

  • Kaynos1972Kaynos1972 Member Posts: 2,316
    I tried LOTR and i don't see what so amazing about this game.   LOTR will not hurt wow a bit.
  • URMAKERURMAKER Member UncommonPosts: 671
    well i play the lotr beta and wow both atm but once the beta is over i'll be back in wow full time. fyi i'm over 30 so not a "wow kiddie" either. i wish the game well and hope many people enjoy themselves there but i don't see it putting a hurtin' on wow in the least.

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  • SteakpuncherSteakpuncher Member Posts: 255
    Im just curious here, how many of the people that replied to this post actually bothered to read it? From my count it looks like about half of you didn't read the post, and the other half lack a sense of humour. Now, ill make sure most people get the next part as absolutely nobody seemed to grasp the concept of the post.



    It was a joke. If you actually beleive WoW is giong to lose subscribers because of the bility to play legolass then your not very smart, if you thihnk my post was serious, your not smart and dont have a sense of humour. Honestly, try reading the post in context next time. I see what some people mean by "hardcore fanbois" now. Your leaping to the defence of the game over a fictional statement.



    From the replies to this post I'd like to at least say, it looks like the active WoW population on this forum at least isn't made up of children, but actually miserable teenagers and killjoys. I posted the same thing in the EU WoW main forum and most people found it quite funny, before the doom and gloom parade came in (much like the posters here) and killed the fun by crying, whinging and flaming untill the point it was removed.



    Learn to read the posts please, and try taking thing with a pinch of salt and some humour. If you still think the post was serious then I would suggest avoiding the internet altogether.
  • kkat69kkat69 Member Posts: 22

    It's funny how an (by my impression) utterly sarcastic thread is taken so damn seriously.

    Simple, "LOL" would have been plenty but ppl have to get in an uproar.

    I mean come on...

    Originally posted by Atomicide

    Well both these games are very similar in playstyle, requirements and so on. Both big names and both have a chance to be competitive in the market. However, as many people know, you need to have an "edge" in the market to get ahead and LotRO can offer one thing WoW will not, and cannot offer to player EVER.

    INSERT FAKE DRUM ROLL FOR SARCASTIC COMMENT WHICH IS SOOO OBVIOUS!!!



    LotRO give's every 12 year old moron a chance to roleplay as Legolass, and he can even fit into the playstyle of the game. I personally cannot wait for the launch to see the impact on WoW. How will we all survive when all the nightelf (and now Bloodelf) hunters dissapear from our servers.



    Id like to send a personal thanks to LotRO online for acting as an idiot sponge for Blizzard.

    Not sure, call me crazy but the OP clearly has sarcasm in his post yet WOW look at the flame fest!

    Good show people.  Let's keep up the common practice of looking before we leap.

     

  • Vasilii_2Vasilii_2 Member Posts: 24
    Originally posted by Pyrite

    Originally posted by Atomicide



    LotRO give's every 12 year old moron a chance to roleplay as Legolass...

    That name is not allowed under the ToS. Damn it!!! Do you think Legolazz will be allowed for my hunter?!?

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  • EreeZEreeZ Member Posts: 54

    as said in most posts here, wow will get hurt, but i dont think it is that LoTR takes players from WoW,

    its more that WoW is beeing outdated and well... 

    once you had your char maxed there and grinded the instances there realy isnt anything else to do..

    so sure LoTR is going to take some people from WoW,

    but its just becouse its new and the people thats leaving WoW would leave at anytime either way..

     

    just so happens they transfer to LoTR for a short time..

     

    over and out

  • ScalebaneScalebane Member UncommonPosts: 1,883
    Does it really matter which is better?  don't know about you guy's but i play games for fun and it seems people treat mmo's like gang wars or something...

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