I quit because of the way that CCP handled the cheating. They denied, then "investigated", and finally had to admit that it happened. The Dev caught cheating is still working for CCP. He may even still be playing EVE.
In addition to this, CCP is not honestly discussing player concerns on the issue. They posted a few Dev Blogs are now acting like if they ignore it, it will go away. The community manager posted that if the players don't like how CCP has reacted, go find another game.
A quick side note - It is true that you cannot compete with long time players in PvP on a 1v1 basis. But combat is rarely 1v1. And with the new starting skill packages you can be an asset to a fleet from day one as a scout or tackler. To become even more of an asset, you just specialze in a role.
I believe that this is the vid of the BoB's cheating. It's a classic.
For one thing I have only been playing 8 months so cut the 'two years!' crap. Also, I cannot imagine anything more dull and shitty that flying around looking for something to gank in a t1 frigate. Maybe i am not as l33t as you .
Originally posted by Jetrpg
Originally posted by NowViewing
After 8 months of playing eve i will be quitting as soon as a find a non-wow alternative (and i have been looking for a while now). I am quitting because this game just takes too long and the only people who are having fun with it are those that have been playing for at least 2 years. If u train for pvp (pretty much the only reason to choose eve imo) then it will take u a year or more just to be competitive and that is if u only skill toward pvp and specific ships. If u choose to skill a bit of everything then u will end up waiting one hell of a long time just to be competant at anything. I regret playing eve and have basically thrown my money away for very few memorable moments and I played the first 5 months afk just skilling because i didnt feel like getting pwned all the time and npc hunting is insanely boring. If you are thinking to start to play eve then just DONT. The whole reason I play mmos is to play with people and do something in a group but with eve it is very self-oriented except in the better corporations which are populated by 4 yr old characters. If u have the stomach to mine and npc for a year and a half or more before u start to do the fun stuff then go for it. Be aware that protecting yourself from ganking pirates and uber blobs of 50 ppl when you are young (and in game money means more) will lead to you being called a cearbear by people who have been playing longer, have more skill pointe, more money and a better corporation behind them. If you determinedly try not to be a carebear then go ahead and try to fight a few people get blown up and suck it up. Oh the community is lame and there is loads of cheating and exploiting going on. People will respond to this by telling me how eve is balanced so you can get a skill to 4 and it is almost as good as having it at 5 and there is only a slight disadvantage but this is the biggest load of crap you will ever hear about in eve. The number of sp you have will dictate whether you are likely to win or not 90% of the time provided both people choose fittings which are suitable. Other than that eve is great.
I just used a trail account to pvp quite well ... rofl 10 days of trainign and i have pvp ability and it takes you what 2 years... that is sad.
Really , pvp is amazing see pvp rquires small ships to a certian degree to tackle and scram. few days of trainign and you can make a rifter fit this role very well. As for doign damage it does take a but to get up to the ability to fly BS, which are great tanks and damage dealers , but cruisers and bc fit right into the dps aspect of eve becuase of their speed, and or their ability to hurt small ships , that are locking down big ships better.
I quit this game last year. No game has more grinding then or more repetive missions then Eve. You could play for 4 hours and see maybe 2 other real players. In saying that Eve was probably the most addicting game I ever played. And you do not need to have played 2 years to be strong. If you specialize you can be quite powerful (in your profession) in 6 months. The best part of the game is the story is not created and packaged by CCP, but the people in the game. The game history is being created as we speak and is different for each person. In one of the universe you might have a war between two smaller corporations while on the other side a Newb pirate is ganking a new player who is exploring the outer reaches of the universe. And, unlike other game, you can really lose all your assets. So the adrenaline rush you get when you get targeted by pirates (and you are transporting something important) is something I have yet to find in any other game. This is a game where the enjoyment is really defined by the person. So when a person says they hate/love the game they are both correct.
Some people call the game a big IRC Chat where a corporation/alliance is a chat room where everyone is joking and having fun. That is till you get war declared on you and then everyone scrambles to battle mode.
The reason I quit? I quit because the game took too much of my time as it does require a lot of committment to enjoy the best aspects of the game.
I quit because of the way that CCP handled the cheating. They denied, then "investigated", and finally had to admit that it happened. The Dev caught cheating is still working for CCP. He may even still be playing EVE.
In addition to this, CCP is not honestly discussing player concerns on the issue. They posted a few Dev Blogs are now acting like if they ignore it, it will go away. The community manager posted that if the players don't like how CCP has reacted, go find another game.
A quick side note - It is true that you cannot compete with long time players in PvP on a 1v1 basis. But combat is rarely 1v1. And with the new starting skill packages you can be an asset to a fleet from day one as a scout or tackler. To become even more of an asset, you just specialze in a role.
I believe that this is the vid of the BoB's cheating. It's a classic.
what codec is that compiled with? Nothing I have willplay the movie. I have no idea which codec was used. However, I can play it via PowerDVD as well as Windows Media Player. I have the codec from Divx.com installed, but that's the only addition I made to my system.
If that doesn't help, let me know and I'll do some more digging.
what codec is that compiled with? Nothing I have willplay the movie.I have no idea which codec was used. However, I can play it via PowerDVD as well as Windows Media Player. I have the codec from Divx.com installed, but that's the only addition I made to my system.
If that doesn't help, let me know and I'll do some more digging.
Heh i bet its the video of BoB ships poping enermy ships within there Pos Shield.
Heh i bet its the video of BoB ships poping enermy ships within there Pos Shield.
Nope. That wasn't cheating and if you believe the Devs, it was "working as intended" and wasn't even an exploit. Of couse, at this point I'm not sure I believe the Devs.
And this really isn't just about someone in BoB cheating. It's how things that you do come back and bite you. Karma.
Regarding some peoples comments about EVE being grind-heavy, I just have to pipe in here and point out how utterly narrow-minded some people are when it comes to games. Of course, if you sit in high security space doing agent missions all day without any sort of multiplayer experience involved, you're gonna feel like the game is nothing but a treadmill. But the problem is you doing agent missions repeatedly. Why? So you can make money? There are a hundred ways to make money, why bulldoze through one nonstop? Why do you need money in the first place? I'm not talking about the average Joe who is looking to buy some skills or his next ship, but the asinine zombie-clowns who spend a year or more hoarding money before ever venturing into low security space. The two problems with that method is, 1) by the time you get to low security space you've go so much money it dulls the pain and risk of losing ships, and pretty much ensures you're not having any fun OR learning from your mistakes. 2) All you're doing is reminding yourself of the hard time you spent earning that cash, and how its slowly dwindling away.
Most people also realize they have zero clue on how to play the game, even though they've been around for two or more years. They're not comfortable in accepting the fact that the learning curve they thought they had overcome suddenly looms before them. So they run back to empire, thinking EVE is like every other game where self advancement is synonymous with fun. I'm sorry guys but, being a completely broke newbie in 0.0 security space, in a corporation full of fun people out to conquer the galaxy is more gameplay experience than all of CCP's content patches combined. When EVE launched it had a handful of static and predictable NPCs, all they did was increase the number and what sort of loot they drop but they are still dumb as hell and utterly predictable. The best pirate NPCs ingame (Officer) can be solo'd by anyone with cheap Tech 1 Cruiser that everyone gets in their first month of play. The best 10/10 complex encounters can be done by 3-5 characters in about an hour with a procedure and spawn rate that is utterly and completely static. If you want PVE, go to WoW. Seriously, I don't think any MMORPG on the market could beat it in that regard - and how EVE won that award on this website is beyond me. But in that game you will never be able to impact hundreds or thousands of players lives the way you can here. Peoples actions from one or two and even three years ago are still being felt today because of the choices they made.
A lot of people are using the cheating fiasco as a carte blanche for every frustration they have with the game, given that so few people even know what happened beyond one Dev's confession and the crackpot ravings of a few hundred forum trolls. My advice to anyone who is thinking of trying EVE for the first or second time; do the complete opposite of what you would do in a normal MMO. Don't get caught up in skillpoint, or ISK grinds. Go out, make friends, get involved, start wars, fight wars, win wars. Hell, go absolutely insane and try to take over the universe. Anything but live in the stagnant cesspool known as empire space. EVE is very much a competitive and pvp game where players make their own rules. If you're doing your best to evade that, getting bored with the game and moving on is the best you can hope for.. judging by a few people in this thread.
I quit because EVE had the worst PvP of any mmorpg I've ever played.
95% of PVP encounters are you zoning to a different area and loading up dead on the other side because a blob of 40 people a camp warp gate and instantly destroy anybody that comes through before their game can even load properly. The problem is you don't just respawn without a scratch like in other mmorpgs; when you die you lose your ship and anything on or in it.
There are no massive fun battles like you see in the movies. They don't exist. It's just massive camping, ganking and griefing. There is no real strategy or thought in the PVP because playing to the maximum potential is very easy; what determines outcomes usually has to do with how you built your ship and how your opponent built his ship. But it's never an even encounter. As a new player you will just run into people with ships that you have no chance of ever destroying. My T1 Frigate or Cruiser can't take on a Battleship. I just get blown up in one shot from 100 km away.
All these fanboy idiots keep telling people that they need to stop mining and mission running and go out there in lower security space where the action is. Ya good advice asshat. I'll spend half an hour on auto pilot trying to get to 0.0 to get blown up in one shot by the first person I encounter.
You also get the idiots that say they can PVP on the trial account. Yes. You can. You join the same corp your main account is in, and group up with your other fanboy buddies in a big blob of people and go camp a warpgate. Whether you are there or not, really doesn't effect anything as whoever comes through that gate is going to get blown up regarldess by one of the dozens of battleships. You're basically just sitting there while the other blob of idiots grief people and watch TV the rest of the time while waiting for more unlucky people to zone in.
Combine that with boring missions, boring mining, spending 80-90% of the time you're online on auto pilot while you watch TV and the game plays itself... and you get why this game is still not that popular after all these years.
CCP cheating is nothing new really. I played this game back in beta and the same thing happened there. Their GMs used to help out their corps and friends by giving them isk, money, and items. A friend of mine actually was a GM during the beta phase and explained to me exactly why you had some corps who seemed ridiculously further ahead then anybody else. I'm actually suprised most people don't even know of all the bs that happened back in beta.
I'd recommend you try the game. It is free for 14 days. Chances are very good that you will uninstall after a few hours when you realise how slow and boring everything is and that you are basically just fodder and entertainment for older players who have money, ships and skill that will take you years to get (literally). That and the fact that you pay $15 a month to watch a game play itself 90% of the time.
Only reason EVE is still around is because of the polish. It attracts new players because all they see is awesome graphics, and screenshots of cool looking ships and battles. It's not until you start playing that you notice just how boring, slow and frustrating the game really is. It's a lot of fun if you started out back in the day when everybody was at the same level. Now everybody is so far ahead in terms of money, ships and most importantly, skills, that unless you are willing to invest 6 months to a year being nothing but entertainment for other people as they gank and grief you in their infinately more powerful ships and corps (guilds), you just won't get anything out of this game. I honestly don't think any game out there is worth that big of a money and time investment until it becomes somewhat enjoyable.
You went through the gate and died to the blob because you didn't 1) Check the map 2) Check intel 3) Have a scout
Most of the time if you ask "Hey is this route clear?" on the alliance chanel, they will tell you "No there is a big blob at xyz"
Or you can check the map.
Or you can use an alt to run the route in a shuttle.
As far as "dev cheating" and whatever, what do you want the devs to do, spend hours ratting to buy ships?
I would rather they cheat a little and spend the extra time coding.
Eve is a PVP game, if you are not playing it for the PVP then just quit right now. You can pvp from day 1, as long as you dont expect to be king of the hill.
As fast as my only complaints about Eve?
Takes too much bloody time. Travel takes too long. The amount of time it takes to handle logistics is ridiculous. You might have to travel 10 jumps to buy a module, then you gotta buy a different module, it can take bloody hours to put together a replacement ship, its just plain ridiculous.
roflmao, 10 days and pvping. yeah right with da kiddies perhaps.
eve got way to boring about day 1. At day 364 I realized I had spent like a total of maybe 20hours in game.
eve blows
Actually yeah, you can PvP in 10 days. Especially now that new chars start with almost 1m sp.
You can tackle in a T1 frig with a MWD and scram in less than that and be flying an e-war cruiser or ceptor a month or two after that. I've seen lots of great PvPers in my corp start out with extremely low skillpoints and just PvP and become better pilots as their character advances.
PvPing right from the start in small ships and working your way up as your character advances is the best way to learn how to be a great PvPer. Carebearing for half a year to make isk before you start PvPing will just make you die in more expensive ships.
I quit the game because the small of favourism got too heavy. It has always been around in this game but I was hoping it would dwindle and not increase.
Also, I realised that to be a "hardcore gamer" you apparently have to be in an area very close to but not crossing the fine line between fair play and cheat/exploits. And some even say it is ok to cross it as long nobody notice.
Before I thought "hardcore gamer" was somebody like me who enjoys gaming for the games sake and stay miles away from anything who could be considered a cheat or exploit. I have nothing to prove to anybody within a game so why should I even go there?
I have not quit, but if they keep with trying to make Eve more EQ-like through the nerfs like what just happened to the privateers I may just have to leave.
Eve is special because it is rather ruthless, get rid of the ruthlessness and Eve is a lot less special.
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I have not quit, but if they keep with trying to make Eve more EQ-like through the nerfs like what just happened to the privateers I may just have to leave.
Eve is special because it is rather ruthless, get rid of the ruthlessness and Eve is a lot less special.
Lol you do realise that CCP have been meaning to fix that loophole for a long time. It just happens the privateers were the ones exploiting it the most.
I quit the game after 5 Months. I had been part of group. I had done solo missions, i had done mining.
The fact is the game is run and owned by an elite group who you have no way of ever catching upto. The game lacks any fun.
The game is the ultimate fanboy mathmatical fart smelling game.
By the end, i think this game caused me to start suffering depression. I felt my life slipping away in between the 29 jumps. Then the devs cheat and play favour. Terrible game, unless you're a fart smeller.
I quit when I became disillusioned after being blamed for cheating and banned for a few days for something I didnt even know how to do let alone did deliberately. I got the impression that no-one at CCP gave a s**t about whether I was innocent or not. Mind you a lot of people on this forum thought I was guilty too. Played for a bit longer when my ban wore off but I just kept thinking how soon before I make another tiny mistake and CCP looks at my file, sees the previous ban, and thinks the worst.
Eve is a dangerous game to be a noob in. You are treated as if you are a previously banned player trying to cheat on a new account. The benefit of the doubt does not exist in Eve. Noobs should give it a miss. The game itself is cool. CCP are not.
I used to visit this site a lot however in recent years it has become the home of negative forum posts, illogical opinions and tantrums so I visit less often.
Played or Beta'd: UO / DAOC / Horizons / EQ2 / DDO / EVE / Archlord / PirateKingsOnline / Tabula Rasa / LOTRO / AOC / Champions / Darkfall / Mortal Online / DCUO / Rift / STO / SWTOR / TSW
ok ok dont take this as a fanboi post just listen and i will explain to you how fun this game is
this game does have its letdowns i myself get bored from time to time but
1. it took me 2 weeks to get into pvp with a merlin i am now flying a drake as a specialist tank and i kick more ass in pvp than my friends who have been playing for a year and a half
2. sure mining is boring but i know people who find it more enjoyabloe than pvp because they like doin business
3. trying to fit your ship is to me....fun yes i may be a freak but i love fitting my ships and trying to perfect fit them (im almost done perfect fitting a drake all i need is t2 weapons)
4. to the people who say teh grind is bad.....DONT GRIND just find a pvp team and gate camp or something your bound to make at least 10mil in a few hours
5. the tut is important please finish it
6. if you dont like this game then you dont have patience that is what thsi agme is about in the begining (first 3 days)
7. last and surly teh most important NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE AUTOPILOT this is what makes traveling boring just do it manualy and you will see how fast it is
As far as "dev cheating" and whatever, what do you want the devs to do, spend hours ratting to buy ships?
If GMs or Devs play in a PvP sandbox game they shouldn't get anything handed to them. If they want to spawn stuff for themselves, they can use the test server.
I quit because no matter how good you are, and no matter how much you play, you will never ever catch up to the vet players who started before you. You can never be competetive with those vet players with mountains of vessels, credits, etc.
Too bad, I really like the game. I wish I could have gotten in on it when it started.
A second reason I quit is because it feels like I'm playing a ship, not a character.
- Phos
AAH! A troll fire! Quick, pour some Kool-Aid on it!!!
The tutorial made my head hurt, telling me thing such as "ammo etc" was under a heading when it was by itself.. and having to jump 5 stations away to prove a point.
Badly explained. Sounded an awesome game and part of me wants to go back and play it (big ELITE fan when that was released) but... no... i'd will myself to do the tutorial and finish it. I really don't want too, badly designed, not great info.... not a great tutorial at all.
un-installed it the 3rd day... mostly because you spend most of your time in auto pilot, also combat and mission sistem is Uber boring...
The fact that most "stations", "markets", or "factories" are basically the same, i got the feeling that i was spending 10 minutes in auto pilot to get to the same place.
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In addition to this, CCP is not honestly discussing player concerns on the issue. They posted a few Dev Blogs are now acting like if they ignore it, it will go away. The community manager posted that if the players don't like how CCP has reacted, go find another game.
A quick side note - It is true that you cannot compete with long time players in PvP on a 1v1 basis. But combat is rarely 1v1. And with the new starting skill packages you can be an asset to a fleet from day one as a scout or tackler. To become even more of an asset, you just specialze in a role.
I believe that this is the vid of the BoB's cheating. It's a classic.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Marko/Karma.avi
I just used a trail account to pvp quite well ... rofl 10 days of trainign and i have pvp ability and it takes you what 2 years... that is sad.
Really , pvp is amazing see pvp rquires small ships to a certian degree to tackle and scram. few days of trainign and you can make a rifter fit this role very well. As for doign damage it does take a but to get up to the ability to fly BS, which are great tanks and damage dealers , but cruisers and bc fit right into the dps aspect of eve becuase of their speed, and or their ability to hurt small ships , that are locking down big ships better.
I quit this game last year. No game has more grinding then or more repetive missions then Eve. You could play for 4 hours and see maybe 2 other real players. In saying that Eve was probably the most addicting game I ever played. And you do not need to have played 2 years to be strong. If you specialize you can be quite powerful (in your profession) in 6 months. The best part of the game is the story is not created and packaged by CCP, but the people in the game. The game history is being created as we speak and is different for each person. In one of the universe you might have a war between two smaller corporations while on the other side a Newb pirate is ganking a new player who is exploring the outer reaches of the universe. And, unlike other game, you can really lose all your assets. So the adrenaline rush you get when you get targeted by pirates (and you are transporting something important) is something I have yet to find in any other game. This is a game where the enjoyment is really defined by the person. So when a person says they hate/love the game they are both correct.
Some people call the game a big IRC Chat where a corporation/alliance is a chat room where everyone is joking and having fun. That is till you get war declared on you and then everyone scrambles to battle mode.
The reason I quit? I quit because the game took too much of my time as it does require a lot of committment to enjoy the best aspects of the game.
If that doesn't help, let me know and I'll do some more digging.
If that doesn't help, let me know and I'll do some more digging.
Heh i bet its the video of BoB ships poping enermy ships within there Pos Shield.
And this really isn't just about someone in BoB cheating. It's how things that you do come back and bite you. Karma.
Most people also realize they have zero clue on how to play the game, even though they've been around for two or more years. They're not comfortable in accepting the fact that the learning curve they thought they had overcome suddenly looms before them. So they run back to empire, thinking EVE is like every other game where self advancement is synonymous with fun. I'm sorry guys but, being a completely broke newbie in 0.0 security space, in a corporation full of fun people out to conquer the galaxy is more gameplay experience than all of CCP's content patches combined. When EVE launched it had a handful of static and predictable NPCs, all they did was increase the number and what sort of loot they drop but they are still dumb as hell and utterly predictable. The best pirate NPCs ingame (Officer) can be solo'd by anyone with cheap Tech 1 Cruiser that everyone gets in their first month of play. The best 10/10 complex encounters can be done by 3-5 characters in about an hour with a procedure and spawn rate that is utterly and completely static. If you want PVE, go to WoW. Seriously, I don't think any MMORPG on the market could beat it in that regard - and how EVE won that award on this website is beyond me. But in that game you will never be able to impact hundreds or thousands of players lives the way you can here. Peoples actions from one or two and even three years ago are still being felt today because of the choices they made.
A lot of people are using the cheating fiasco as a carte blanche for every frustration they have with the game, given that so few people even know what happened beyond one Dev's confession and the crackpot ravings of a few hundred forum trolls. My advice to anyone who is thinking of trying EVE for the first or second time; do the complete opposite of what you would do in a normal MMO. Don't get caught up in skillpoint, or ISK grinds. Go out, make friends, get involved, start wars, fight wars, win wars. Hell, go absolutely insane and try to take over the universe. Anything but live in the stagnant cesspool known as empire space. EVE is very much a competitive and pvp game where players make their own rules. If you're doing your best to evade that, getting bored with the game and moving on is the best you can hope for.. judging by a few people in this thread.
95% of PVP encounters are you zoning to a different area and loading up dead on the other side because a blob of 40 people a camp warp gate and instantly destroy anybody that comes through before their game can even load properly. The problem is you don't just respawn without a scratch like in other mmorpgs; when you die you lose your ship and anything on or in it.
There are no massive fun battles like you see in the movies. They don't exist. It's just massive camping, ganking and griefing. There is no real strategy or thought in the PVP because playing to the maximum potential is very easy; what determines outcomes usually has to do with how you built your ship and how your opponent built his ship. But it's never an even encounter. As a new player you will just run into people with ships that you have no chance of ever destroying. My T1 Frigate or Cruiser can't take on a Battleship. I just get blown up in one shot from 100 km away.
All these fanboy idiots keep telling people that they need to stop mining and mission running and go out there in lower security space where the action is. Ya good advice asshat. I'll spend half an hour on auto pilot trying to get to 0.0 to get blown up in one shot by the first person I encounter.
You also get the idiots that say they can PVP on the trial account. Yes. You can. You join the same corp your main account is in, and group up with your other fanboy buddies in a big blob of people and go camp a warpgate. Whether you are there or not, really doesn't effect anything as whoever comes through that gate is going to get blown up regarldess by one of the dozens of battleships. You're basically just sitting there while the other blob of idiots grief people and watch TV the rest of the time while waiting for more unlucky people to zone in.
Combine that with boring missions, boring mining, spending 80-90% of the time you're online on auto pilot while you watch TV and the game plays itself... and you get why this game is still not that popular after all these years.
CCP cheating is nothing new really. I played this game back in beta and the same thing happened there. Their GMs used to help out their corps and friends by giving them isk, money, and items. A friend of mine actually was a GM during the beta phase and explained to me exactly why you had some corps who seemed ridiculously further ahead then anybody else. I'm actually suprised most people don't even know of all the bs that happened back in beta.
I'd recommend you try the game. It is free for 14 days. Chances are very good that you will uninstall after a few hours when you realise how slow and boring everything is and that you are basically just fodder and entertainment for older players who have money, ships and skill that will take you years to get (literally). That and the fact that you pay $15 a month to watch a game play itself 90% of the time.
Only reason EVE is still around is because of the polish. It attracts new players because all they see is awesome graphics, and screenshots of cool looking ships and battles. It's not until you start playing that you notice just how boring, slow and frustrating the game really is. It's a lot of fun if you started out back in the day when everybody was at the same level. Now everybody is so far ahead in terms of money, ships and most importantly, skills, that unless you are willing to invest 6 months to a year being nothing but entertainment for other people as they gank and grief you in their infinately more powerful ships and corps (guilds), you just won't get anything out of this game. I honestly don't think any game out there is worth that big of a money and time investment until it becomes somewhat enjoyable.
Eve is not an FPS, it is an RTS.
You went through the gate and died to the blob because you didn't 1) Check the map 2) Check intel 3) Have a scout
Most of the time if you ask "Hey is this route clear?" on the alliance chanel, they will tell you "No there is a big blob at xyz"
Or you can check the map.
Or you can use an alt to run the route in a shuttle.
As far as "dev cheating" and whatever, what do you want the devs to do, spend hours ratting to buy ships?
I would rather they cheat a little and spend the extra time coding.
Eve is a PVP game, if you are not playing it for the PVP then just quit right now. You can pvp from day 1, as long as you dont expect to be king of the hill.
As fast as my only complaints about Eve?
Takes too much bloody time. Travel takes too long. The amount of time it takes to handle logistics is ridiculous. You might have to travel 10 jumps to buy a module, then you gotta buy a different module, it can take bloody hours to put together a replacement ship, its just plain ridiculous.
Actually yeah, you can PvP in 10 days. Especially now that new chars start with almost 1m sp.
You can tackle in a T1 frig with a MWD and scram in less than that and be flying an e-war cruiser or ceptor a month or two after that. I've seen lots of great PvPers in my corp start out with extremely low skillpoints and just PvP and become better pilots as their character advances.
PvPing right from the start in small ships and working your way up as your character advances is the best way to learn how to be a great PvPer. Carebearing for half a year to make isk before you start PvPing will just make you die in more expensive ships.
I really liked this game, but I found it was hard to meet people early on and that kind of made it too hard to stay interested.
Also, I realised that to be a "hardcore gamer" you apparently have to be in an area very close to but not crossing the fine line between fair play and cheat/exploits. And some even say it is ok to cross it as long nobody notice.
Before I thought "hardcore gamer" was somebody like me who enjoys gaming for the games sake and stay miles away from anything who could be considered a cheat or exploit. I have nothing to prove to anybody within a game so why should I even go there?
Eve is special because it is rather ruthless, get rid of the ruthlessness and Eve is a lot less special.
--When you resubscribe to SWG, an 18 yearold Stripper finds Jesus, gives up stripping, and moves with a rolex reverend to Hawaii.
--In MMORPG's l007 is the opiate of the masses.
--The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
--CCP could cut off an Eve player's fun bits, and that player would say that it was good CCP did that.
I didnt quit and I have no intention to. EVE is amazing
I quit the game after 5 Months. I had been part of group. I had done solo missions, i had done mining.
The fact is the game is run and owned by an elite group who you have no way of ever catching upto. The game lacks any fun.
The game is the ultimate fanboy mathmatical fart smelling game.
By the end, i think this game caused me to start suffering depression. I felt my life slipping away in between the 29 jumps. Then the devs cheat and play favour. Terrible game, unless you're a fart smeller.
I quit when I became disillusioned after being blamed for cheating and banned for a few days for something I didnt even know how to do let alone did deliberately. I got the impression that no-one at CCP gave a s**t about whether I was innocent or not. Mind you a lot of people on this forum thought I was guilty too. Played for a bit longer when my ban wore off but I just kept thinking how soon before I make another tiny mistake and CCP looks at my file, sees the previous ban, and thinks the worst.
Eve is a dangerous game to be a noob in. You are treated as if you are a previously banned player trying to cheat on a new account. The benefit of the doubt does not exist in Eve. Noobs should give it a miss. The game itself is cool. CCP are not.
I used to visit this site a lot however in recent years it has become the home of negative forum posts, illogical opinions and tantrums so I visit less often.
Played or Beta'd: UO / DAOC / Horizons / EQ2 / DDO / EVE / Archlord / PirateKingsOnline / Tabula Rasa / LOTRO / AOC / Champions / Darkfall / Mortal Online / DCUO / Rift / STO / SWTOR / TSW
this game does have its letdowns i myself get bored from time to time but
1. it took me 2 weeks to get into pvp with a merlin i am now flying a drake as a specialist tank and i kick more ass in pvp than my friends who have been playing for a year and a half
2. sure mining is boring but i know people who find it more enjoyabloe than pvp because they like doin business
3. trying to fit your ship is to me....fun yes i may be a freak but i love fitting my ships and trying to perfect fit them (im almost done perfect fitting a drake all i need is t2 weapons)
4. to the people who say teh grind is bad.....DONT GRIND just find a pvp team and gate camp or something your bound to make at least 10mil in a few hours
5. the tut is important please finish it
6. if you dont like this game then you dont have patience that is what thsi agme is about in the begining (first 3 days)
7. last and surly teh most important NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE AUTOPILOT this is what makes traveling boring just do it manualy and you will see how fast it is
genius inside insanity
I quit because no matter how good you are, and no matter how much you play, you will never ever catch up to the vet players who started before you. You can never be competetive with those vet players with mountains of vessels, credits, etc.
Too bad, I really like the game. I wish I could have gotten in on it when it started.
A second reason I quit is because it feels like I'm playing a ship, not a character.
- Phos
The tutorial made my head hurt, telling me thing such as "ammo etc" was under a heading when it was by itself.. and having to jump 5 stations away to prove a point.
Badly explained. Sounded an awesome game and part of me wants to go back and play it (big ELITE fan when that was released) but... no... i'd will myself to do the tutorial and finish it. I really don't want too, badly designed, not great info.... not a great tutorial at all.
un-installed it the 3rd day... mostly because you spend most of your time in auto pilot, also combat and mission sistem is Uber boring...
The fact that most "stations", "markets", or "factories" are basically the same, i got the feeling that i was spending 10 minutes in auto pilot to get to the same place.