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haha true that brother L33t our day will come.
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haha true that brother L33t our day will come.
Good I cant wait may you forever spill blood in your name.
Well, if you get a df.exe error every five seconds, or the game grinds to a halt any time there's more that 10 people on screen, or any number of other myriad technical problems that could, and likely will, befall this idea, then no, people aren't going to stick around, regardless of how many pie in the sky promises the devs make.
Prerendered video is super keen, and quoting articles that are 4 years old are all well and fine, but until they actually open the gates, and let the heathens in, it's all just so much talk.
Perhaps some here just discovered these MMO thingies yesterday, but some of us have already watched this little dog and pony show unfold at least a half dozen times with games like Dawn, Mourning, D&L, Shadowbane, and the list goes on and on. Hell, look at Vanguard. $30 million dollars and a dev team with prior MMO experience, and it was still a train wreck.
It is not like any other MMORPG....it's...it's....VAPORWARE!
Come on, been in development for at least 6 years and not a hint of a beta in the near future?
Not like this has not been tried before, ala Shadowbane and we all know how successful that game was.
To top that off, this group has no experience developing MMO's. Sorry that is a huge handicap.
I would definitely NOT get excited about this game.
I certainly did not buy into the hype, but it's nice to dream.
But the game has to be done right, I love the features we seen some of them in the vid they released and it looked great. As for them not having experiance that's not entirely true and for the most part irrelevent. Look at who developed EVE online, it wasent a big company it was a small studio that pushed innovation and they made a truley great game; granted not every one is into space but that still does not negate the fact that a small amateur team made and awesome MMORPG. If they can do it then other small studios can push innovation in MMORPG's.
The game is in development and it's coming out the question is when, calling the game vaporwere wont win anyone points it will in fact show that you have very little knowledge about the progress of the game. And most who followed the game seen an extraordinary amount of progress over the past 6 years. The game has come from concept stage, when only 4 people worked on the game to full development with nearly 30 people working on the game actively for nearly 5 years.
The only thing that i am sure gets people is that the game gets pushed back and it has been in a state of perpetual development for some time. But that's necessairly a bad thing, games being pushed back is nothing new it's the norm in the industry. I rather have a game playable rather then everyone releasing unfinished and buggy infested softwere.
This game should be given a benefit of a doubt, It deserves it. The game is still in development and they'res plenty of info avaliable. Why in gods name do people give a pass to other games that are in development and yet turn around and knock Darkfall. I had one guy who apparently loves AOC lash out at DF cause it got pushed back. That's cute but wasent AOC pushed back? Did funcom release info and or vids showing how pvp will be like; the game is supposedly 4 months away and we still know very little about how AOC will handle pvp.
I don't have a problem with people being wery of darkfall, I think we all should be on our guard but let's use a little common sense and use equal weights and measures when comparing games and not just bash a game for no apparent reason.
I agree this game looks very good. Key word is LOOKS. This game has been in development for a long time already but I have yet to see any substance. IF this game ever releases it will be with about 20% of these features working properly. Don't believe all the hype people. How many games have released that have all the features they promised? ZERO.
These guys are doing it old school, the game will be done when we beta it pretty much, not like paying for beta like SWG and VGSOH.
Closed beta testing instead of this big public bullshit.
So there.
If this game will be ever released, it'll be either hit or shit (there's just too many things that can go wrong)
Oh and yea, it reminds me of EVE pretty much, except that if it won't go wrong and will deliver everything that's promised without major bugs/problems/issues, it'll be like a better EVE
Yes I'm curious about this game quite a lot, but I'm not gonna eat any hype, not before I see it released and read first review/reactions
LOL Busdriver got a tad bit out of control, there is no date for release. Granted all the news we got in 2007 is positive but we still don't know, pushing back the release is normal in the industry. I know Devs have their hearts set out on testing the game when it's nearly close to a full game, but let's realize that with the type of features this game is supposed to have it will take at least 6 months for testing.
Mid 2008 seems likely thou.
Like any MMO, there will be a point where they either have to put up or shut up. Hard to say what condition the game will be at that point. Past experience in this genre says, without a big money behind you, the tendency is to put out a less than satisfactory product.
They might say they are going to have all the features in, but saying and doing are two different things.
If they can bring out a decent game at release, whenever that is, more power to them. Just that I have seen so many games hyped like this, only to fall flat on their face at release, that I tend to take a very jaded view.
Hyping a game when you have not even experienced beta is just dumb. It definitely has possibilities, but we will have to wait to see if it meets expectations.
Why do you mind if it's been developing for 6 years? I think we got used to the 2 year development crap, and the pre pay get into beta to later scam your money type of game..
Give these guys a break, just wait to see it, then bash it if it deserves it..
IMHO.. as I stated before, if it has been developing for 6 years, its not just vaporwere..
Perhaps, then, I can interest you in a preorder of the game Mourning/Thrones of Chaos?
And, I haven't seen anyone bashing the game. Some people, though, have been bit in the ass by the hype machine, and empty promises before. Just ask all those D&L fanboys that said D&L would revolutionize the genre based of some screenshots, and prerendered videos. Hell, some of them may well be in this very thread, having not learned the first time. Or the VG fanboys. Shadowbane, SWG, need I go on?
Yeah, yeah, it's the holy grail of pvp, and sandbox gameplay, and you can have cities and a pirate ship, and a giant flying office building full of accountants. And everyone has a case of priapism because you can go out and loot dry any poor dumb newb you find, because even though gear won't be important, it is important to be able to take it from people. The only thing missing is a fully animated *azzrape* emote.
It's all good, though. You all can crank your expectations up to 250%, and when the game doesn't live up to the impossibly high bar you've set, you can go rushing to the forums in a fit of righteous indignation, to bitch about how the devs lied to you, and you were ripped off, and everyone else will go, "Woah, deja vu", and enjoy a good snicker at your pain.
mmm well i hope it is as good as they say time will tell
Pictures are worth a thousand words, but when it comes to games, demos are worth a heck of a lot more than pictures.
My question would be, what's the cutoff point, when 99% plus of people that follow a game like this no longer believe any hype and just conclude that it's vaporware? It's been 6 years now. Do you go 7, 8, 9, 10?
There are a lot of players that want a more dynamic world. It's happening, but slowly. To slowly for most players, myself included, that aren't satisfied with static worlds like WoW.
I'd pay more attention to Red 5 studios. They are more likely to accomplish something, than an indie team with no track record:
It's hard to say what will come out of Red 5. Brad McQuaid was one of the original designers of EQ, and he made Vanguard. Vanguard kinda sucks, but it did have potential, maybe still does if they keep it afloat long enough.
This guy Kern from Red 5 was one of the original designers of WoW, now he wants a crack at taking it to the next level. He might make a game that sucks like Vanguard, but he says he wants to make something much more dynamic than WoW. We'll just have to wait and see. They just put the studio together, which means they'll probably finish their first game a year or two before Darkfall.
Yay! A montage!
"The new age is upon us, yet the past refuses to rest in its shallow grave."
A while ago? This was originally posted on 8/29/2003 according to the website. That's almost 4 years ago. Observations from then are completely worthless now.
A while ago? This was originally posted on 8/29/2003 according to the website. That's almost 4 years ago. Observations from then are completely worthless now.
Hey now, no fair pointing out the obvious. You wanna destroy the carefully created illusion, or something?
Comparing Darkfall to Vanguard at this stage is pure lunacy. There are many fundamental differences between the 2 games situations.
One major one being that the Vanguard beta absolutely stunk of disaster. I had 1 or 2 of my guild officers who were fortunate (or unfortunate) to have been in the closed beta for Vanguard. It was absolutely clear without a doubt that the game was on a crash course. My officers reported back to me woes of linear dungeons, horrible bugs, class imbalances, and poor design flaws. To Vanguard's credit, some of these issues were alleviated, but as we all knows, beta's do in fact mirror retail.
The Darkfall beta has not yet started as we all know, as my guild was accepted to clan beta back in the early stages of sign-ups. Again, having followed this game for a long time, the beta will be the complete game in all of its glory with all features being present. This is one of the main reasons it has been taking so long. Unlike Vanguard, there will be no missing classes, missing continents, or missing features. They have been releasing increasingly frequent updates the last few months including video footage, the instruction manual from the demo, and recently screens of the final race.
Vanguard and Darkfall are in fact opposites in many ways. Darkfall is a purely PvP with very little emphasis on PvE, while Vanguard is the reverse. Vanguard was released too early, while Darkfall is taking its time (maybe too much) to ensure the game is presented 100% complete. They understand that when the beta starts, what people see will ultimately be the word of mouth that sells a lot of games in this genre, so I can understand that want it right. Honestly, even if the graphics don't improve 1 bit, I think it is an acceptable price to pay for the gameplay they are delivering. I think you will find a lot of people are willing to compromise in the graphics department for a game that runs well and plays well with this type of PvP and freedom.
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