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EQ2 vs. LOTRO

Crispy1513Crispy1513 Member Posts: 21

I'm thinking about which game to get, but I can't decide between the two!  The complaint I have with lotro is that theirs only four races, but I like the classes better.  I just want to know what you all think is the better game.

 

Thanx!

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  • RaduerielRadueriel Member Posts: 57
    Lotr is a good game for what it is and it has alot of promise. If your a fan of the books etc then it might be for you. I personally found it to play to much like WoW meaning I found it to be too simple. I also don't mind doing quests but when I did the beta it was quest after quest after quest.......well it was quest grinding. And it felt more like a chore then anything else. I doubt that there will be anymore characters or classes to choose from. But you do get to do quests with some of the more important characters of the book later on. I'm a fan of the series but I'm somewhat disappointed at the approach Sigil took to this game. I'm also sick of  Wow wannabe products.



    I played both eq2 trials, fae and the isles one. There are also quests and crafting but to me it did'nt seem dumbed down or like a chore. There are also many more races and classes to choose from.  I had both games set to max settings and for me at least I found eq2 to be better graphically.  It also wasn't as hard on my rig as lotr was.



    I  don't know what the end game is like for either but I know eq2 is a bit more solo friendly and the community is of a more mature group.



    I plan to get eq2 actually this weekend.



    If you haven't already, play the trials and decide for yourself. Also keep watch of the ratings on these forums you'll notice that Lotr is dropping in ratings.
  • homeskillethomeskillet Member Posts: 119
    I'm deciding to buy EQ2 myself but I can tell you that I have played the open beta extensively for LOTRO and it just isn't very fun. Sure, it's a nicely polished game with very little bugs but it simply isn't fun or innovative at all. It's really a "been there, done that" type of game, though I can see how a person who has never played MMO's before might really enjoy LOTRO.
  • EliteMarineEliteMarine Member Posts: 155
    Lotro is the choice i made only because i like the story and such and eq2 is more solo friendly but i like questing with my friends which makes it more fun

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  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384
    Originally posted by Crispy1513


    I'm thinking about which game to get, but I can't decide between the two!  The complaint I have with lotro is that theirs only four races, but I like the classes better.  I just want to know what you all think is the better game.
     
    Thanx!



    If you never played EQ2 yet, I would pick EQ2 over Lord of the Rings Online any day.  Im in open beta for LoTRO and I dont like it.  Its a very stable game but too easy and boring.

     

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • URMAKERURMAKER Member UncommonPosts: 671
    i'd go with eq2 no question about it. 90% of the people who have anything bad to say about it always bring up soe well they've screwed up games before but this isn't one of them. lotro is an ok game but it is so bland and lacks depth only the die hard  lotr "book" fans will play longer than 6 months.

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  • homeskillethomeskillet Member Posts: 119
    Originally posted by URMAKER

    i'd go with eq2 no question about it. 90% of the people who have anything bad to say about it always bring up soe well they've screwed up games before but this isn't one of them. lotro is an ok game but it is so bland and lacks depth only the die hard  lotr "book" fans will play longer than 6 months.
    That actually appears to be true as most people who hate any games from SOE always bring up the SOE name so really, they'll pretty much hate any game that SOE comes out with.



    I actually haven't heard much, if any bad things at all about EQ2 ever since the EoF expansion was released late last year. It seems that the game has really ended up becoming what it was always meant to be.
  • I have played EQ2 for ages, and LOTRO for about 2 weeks in beta. Since max level is 15 in beta, hard to really tell what the end game is like or about.

    But these are my impressions of LOTRO so far

    Fun to play for a while, but I think it will not be like other MMO's where you play it for years. It appears to me that the game will have a play life of around 3 to 8 months tops before you have been there, done that - with everything LOTRO is a pretty small world compared to EQ2, WOW, EQ1, and other more "mature" mmo's that have tons of content and areas added since release.

    There are a few annoying things in LOTRO, like not being able to resize the chat window, but I see nothing major.

    Both LOTRO and EQ2 are pretty much bug free. EQ2 has a lot more content and I think better quests. Tradeskills in LOTRO seems a bit lame and simple, but they can be a bit tedious in EQ2 also.

    So the bottom line for me is that I am not going to give my EQ2 account, but I might actually try playing LOTRO for a month and see how it goes. It cannot possibly be any worse than Vanguard.

  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318
    I beta'd LOTRO. Don't bother. The game doesn't do ANYTHING innovative at all. The only reason to play it is that its set in Middle Earth and sometimes you get to interact with the story characters. Its intensely boring and whereas you do alot of quests in EQ2, they are much MUCH better done than anything LOTRO has to offer. LOTRO is also extremely simple. When I was betaing, I had to force myself to play for two hours because I was just bored out of my skull. I can't stand WoW and LOTRO is a copy of WoW in almost every way, only not as well done.



    EQ2 really is the best game on the market.
  • airheadairhead Member UncommonPosts: 718
    Originally posted by Laiina So the bottom line for me is that I am not going to give my EQ2 account, but I might actually try playing LOTRO for a month and see how it goes. It cannot possibly be any worse than Vanguard.
    Fun to play for a while, but I think it will not be like other MMO's where you play it for years. It appears to me that the game will have a play life of around 3 to 8 months tops before you have been there, done that - ...


    Please list 'other MMOs' you are referring to... cause I've played them all and I've never seen one worth playing more than 3-8 months. Maybe I'm just not a true MMOer or something? Some flaw within me I guess...
  • TalynTalyn Member UncommonPosts: 587
    Everyone seems to forget that the goal of LOTRO was never to be innovative or bring much new to the genre. It was always supposed to be a casual-friendly, traditional MMORPG, end of story. It's very polished, and Turbine does have a pretty good reputation for adding content on a regular basis. New areas should open up when it goes live, and probably every month or so new areas of Middle Earth will open up. Basically they took the opposite approach to Vanguard; rather than giving a massive world with nothing in it, then one day you patch up and *poof* there's something new where you're standing, LOTRO starts off small and expands.



    That said, I don't know if I'll subscribe to LOTRO. I just don't have the time for a traditional MMORPG right now, and I'm looking for something new and innovative.



    I'm also curious about EQ2, never even tried the trial yet, but... again, it's traditional same ol' same ol' and quite frankly the original EQ was such a turnoff for me, having "EQ" in the name has kept me away.
  • MeridionMeridion Member UncommonPosts: 1,495
    - EQ2 looks worse

    - EQ2 is the more mature (some people like me, would call it "OLDER") game

    - EQ2 is slow paced and has a really weak, very synthetic, non-organic lore or world feel. You basically teleport from zone (and environment setting) to zone

    - EQ2 offers not more than LotRO, it offers questing and crafting. That's it, it just takes longer to achieve.



    I've played EQ2 for a pretty long time and while it's a nice game, don't let yourself get caught in the argument that EQ2 is the superior, more mature mother of "games like" WoW or LotRO or Guildwars. It's not. EQ2 is, by any means, a grind/quest game like all the other titles; its pace is a little slower and its grouping requirement is a little harsher, but its basically the SAME THING. So if you choose a generic fantasy MMORPG off the current top titles, for gods sake, go for LotRO...



    Meridion
  • sinbsdsinbsd Member Posts: 4

    I don't understand how or why LOTRO is getting so much attention. I tried to play it this week and the movement is so not crisp.. it feels like, sluggish or something.. can't think of the right word to describe it but no matter the settings graphically.. the movement just seemed off. I can see this movement issue affectign fights where you can't ract as quickly.. anyone else notice this?

    If they fixed that I might play it but certainly not now the way it is.

  • MeridionMeridion Member UncommonPosts: 1,495
    I guess you've got a lag issue then. Everything sharp on this side, at least if you're talking about sluggish general movement. The animations are not as super-polished as the rest of the game, that's very true, still there is no laggish, sluggish gameplay. I had this issue when I played EQ2 on an US realm and switched to a dedicated EU/german realm in 2005. The game went from unplayably laggy to nice and sharp.



    Meridion
  • ZsavoozZsavooz Member Posts: 532
    I am in Open Beta for LOTR and I must say, it just doesn't do anything for me. EQ2, on the other hand, seems much more immersive and fun to play. Albeit, I love the LOTR story line, just not the game. 
  • RaduerielRadueriel Member Posts: 57
    Originally posted by Meridion

    - EQ2 looks worse

    - EQ2 is the more mature (some people like me, would call it "OLDER") game

    - EQ2 is slow paced and has a really weak, very synthetic, non-organic lore or world feel. You basically teleport from zone (and environment setting) to zone

    - EQ2 offers not more than LotRO, it offers questing and crafting. That's it, it just takes longer to achieve.



    I've played EQ2 for a pretty long time and while it's a nice game, don't let yourself get caught in the argument that EQ2 is the superior, more mature mother of "games like" WoW or LotRO or Guildwars. It's not. EQ2 is, by any means, a grind/quest game like all the other titles; its pace is a little slower and its grouping requirement is a little harsher, but its basically the SAME THING. So if you choose a generic fantasy MMORPG off the current top titles, for gods sake, go for LotRO...



    Meridion
    Eq2 looks worse??? Hardly.

    Eq2 is slow paced and has a really weak.....??? 

       OK would you rather play a game to which you know what to expect due to the story line? OR would you rather play a game where you know there is a plot between good vs evil and you as a player can decide to which side you want to join and explore/battle with? This would be personal choice to ones game style.

    Eq2 is not a more mature then other top games??

       LOL  your funny. WoW,Lotr, Guildwars are very EASY games to get into and thus attract a younger crowd that just want to get in the game and kick butt.  Eq2 has a bit more of a learning curve and is more suited for those that want to RP and have more of a social environment...Unless your on the pvp servers.



    Lotr Requires a minum of 1 gig ram to even run remotely well on a comp. I recently upgraded my comp with 2 gigs and an entire new system to give both Eq2 and Lotr a fair shot. Lotr as I've mentioned many times is a major quest grinding fest! Your constantly running back and forth just doing quests. Aswell everyone knows that Lotr is a wannabe WoW, I'd rather play Wow because at least then I would expect the kind of game play it promotes.



    I played both Eq2 and Lotr on maxed settings. Eq2 does look better.(I'm using a gforce 7600gt oc card). Lotr models look softer and more like DDO graphics barely. The buildings and general scenery looks better in Eq2.



    (Anyone that reads these comments, just do yourself a favor and DL the trials. The arguments will never stop, as that most will be biased due to who the developers of the games are.)
  • homeskillethomeskillet Member Posts: 119
    Originally posted by Meridion

    I guess you've got a lag issue then. Everything sharp on this side, at least if you're talking about sluggish general movement. The animations are not as super-polished as the rest of the game, that's very true, still there is no laggish, sluggish gameplay. I had this issue when I played EQ2 on an US realm and switched to a dedicated EU/german realm in 2005. The game went from unplayably laggy to nice and sharp.



    Meridion
    The game is sharp and maybe one of the most polished release MMO's ever released but that doesn't guarantee that it will do well, or that it is a good game.



    To me, the game is near perfect on the technical side of things (UI is clean, graphics aren't amazing but pleasing, little lag issues, etc.) the game is BORING and has very little content compared to a game like EQ2. Pretty much simple put, LOTRO is nothing innovative or new. It is the same boring MMO that companies seem to be pumping out every year. Again, it is nothing special at all and while I can see how someone who is new to MMO gaming might enjoy LOTRO, for the seasoned MMO gamer, it's much of the same thing and not very fun.
  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318
    Originally posted by Radueriel

    Originally posted by Meridion

    - EQ2 looks worse

    - EQ2 is the more mature (some people like me, would call it "OLDER") game

    - EQ2 is slow paced and has a really weak, very synthetic, non-organic lore or world feel. You basically teleport from zone (and environment setting) to zone

    - EQ2 offers not more than LotRO, it offers questing and crafting. That's it, it just takes longer to achieve.



    I've played EQ2 for a pretty long time and while it's a nice game, don't let yourself get caught in the argument that EQ2 is the superior, more mature mother of "games like" WoW or LotRO or Guildwars. It's not. EQ2 is, by any means, a grind/quest game like all the other titles; its pace is a little slower and its grouping requirement is a little harsher, but its basically the SAME THING. So if you choose a generic fantasy MMORPG off the current top titles, for gods sake, go for LotRO...



    Meridion
    Eq2 looks worse??? Hardly.

    Eq2 is slow paced and has a really weak.....??? 

       OK would you rather play a game to which you know what to expect due to the story line? OR would you rather play a game where you know there is a plot between good vs evil and you as a player can decide to which side you want to join and explore/battle with? This would be personal choice to ones game style.

    Eq2 is not a more mature then other top games??

       LOL  your funny. WoW,Lotr, Guildwars are very EASY games to get into and thus attract a younger crowd that just want to get in the game and kick butt.  Eq2 has a bit more of a learning curve and is more suited for those that want to RP and have more of a social environment...Unless your on the pvp servers.



    Lotr Requires a minum of 1 gig ram to even run remotely well on a comp. I recently upgraded my comp with 2 gigs and an entire new system to give both Eq2 and Lotr a fair shot. Lotr as I've mentioned many times is a major quest grinding fest! Your constantly running back and forth just doing quests. Aswell everyone knows that Lotr is a wannabe WoW, I'd rather play Wow because at least then I would expect the kind of game play it promotes.



    I played both Eq2 and Lotr on maxed settings. Eq2 does look better.(I'm using a gforce 7600gt oc card). Lotr models look softer and more like DDO graphics barely. The buildings and general scenery looks better in Eq2.



    (Anyone that reads these comments, just do yourself a favor and DL the trials. The arguments will never stop, as that most will be biased due to who the developers of the games are.) Well said. EQ2 is a MUCH better game all around. LOTRO made me feel like pulling my hair out, just like WoW does.



    I'm sick to death of WoW copycats.
  • GhakanGhakan Member Posts: 71
    Basically, I think I would be playing EQ2 if it wasn't so hard on my graphics card.  I have 2 GB RAM, 2.8Ghz processor, a Radeon X600 256mb graphics card, and in order for the game to be playable, I need to set it so everything looks diffused and blurry.  The game itself seems much more deep and interesting, but LOTRO looks MUCH better on the mid-line PC.  While I am a fan of Turbine, this is not their next game that I'll play.  I'm hoping this will give them enough money to fund something original like Asheron's Call and quit using other IP's.



    My general comment.... if you have a really nice PC, try EQ2, if not, don't play either.

    http://mmoreinsight.wordpress.com -- A Glimpse Into The World of Massively Multiplayer Games.

  • RaduerielRadueriel Member Posts: 57
    "a radeon x600 256mb graphics card"......."I need to set it so everything looks diffused and blurry".....Lotr much is much better on mid line systems"...



    Alright you really had me scratching my head with your post. For the most part Lotr is a pig on ram and is tough on mid range pcs. Which is the reason I upgraded my rig. My old build could play EVERYTHING (including the EoF trial..) perfectly fine except for  Vanguard and Lotr. I had a 1.9 gig, ati Radeon 9600 xt with 512 ram which barely ran Lotr...(Vanguard was'nt even worth trying to play.).

       It was the lack of ram that killed my gaming experience. ( I also considered my system mid ranged because of the fact I could still play 95% of the games out there).

      Now I have an Amd Athlon 64 x2 dual core 4600 wiith a gforce 7600 gt oc 256mb card, 2 gig of ram and I can run both Eq2 and Lotr on max settings with no problems. My video card and your Radeon x600 are not that much different.(I Googled for a comparison).

    So I don't understand how you can say things are blurry. The only thing that comes to mind is that perhaps your using  lcd display and having a "ghosting" effect happening? (I''m still using an old school 17" monitor...no ghosts for me.).
  • GhakanGhakan Member Posts: 71
    I don't get it either, but if I try to run stuff too high in EQ2, my screen goes black and pops up with a window basically telling me my graphics card had stopped running because itw as getting worked too hard.  This happened about every 5-10 minutes, so it got frustrating.  I really wish this wasn't the case, but for some reason it is.  Perhaps I need to update the driver, im not sure.  Like I said, I would probably play it if this didn't happen.

    http://mmoreinsight.wordpress.com -- A Glimpse Into The World of Massively Multiplayer Games.

  • ThomasPLDThomasPLD Member Posts: 1
    Yes updatting drivers is a good start.
  • lomillerlomiller Member Posts: 1,810
    Originally posted by Ghakan

    Basically, I think I would be playing EQ2 if it wasn't so hard on my graphics card.  I have 2 GB RAM, 2.8Ghz processor, a Radeon X600 256mb graphics card, and in order for the game to be playable, I need to set it so everything looks diffused and blurry.  The game itself seems much more deep and interesting, but LOTRO looks MUCH better on the mid-line PC.  While I am a fan of Turbine, this is not their next game that I'll play.  I'm hoping this will give them enough money to fund something original like Asheron's Call and quit using other IP's.



    My general comment.... if you have a really nice PC, try EQ2, if not, don't play either.
    On a system with 2GB of main memory and a good 512MB video card EQ2 is almost entirely processor bottlenecked. With a  decent 256MB video card you can still get good performance on high settings, but not maximum. Your biggest problem looks to be a slow CPU, but drivers and general system setup could be an issue as well. 
  • tighersensetighersense Member Posts: 8
    your system is nearly exactly the same as mine except i have a ge 7600 gfx card nad mine works excellently, allthough i need a cooling system goin in warmer weather, but a mate af mine has a similar set up but with a 6600 card (cant remember the brand) but it is 256mb card and he can hardly play it at all, so i really think it comes down to the quality of your gfx card, go buy a ge force, u wont look back

    tighersense

  • BACONXBACONX Member UncommonPosts: 253

    Really diificult task in comparing the two.  EQ2 has been out for over 2 years.  LOTR, launched the 24th.  I played EQ2 for most of its life, bouncing back and forth whenever burnout would occur.  I'm playing LOTR right now but have not deleted EQ2 off yet.  I have to say though LOTR is a surprising hit.  It pulls you in.  Initial play seems almost childlike, especially the tutorial introduction chapter.  But, If you can get to level 6 or 7(when you enter the overall world), it will suck you in.  Yes, much more laid back than EQ2 but EQ2 has the advantage of time and tweaking to give you an expansive range.  This game will too.  I would say that if you haven't played either then try out EQ2.  If you played EQ2 and are a little tired of it (not becasue it is bad- burn out happens with everything!), then do not be scared of LOTR.  It is a good game, just young and not as complex as EQ2.  I would say the complexity issue is one that maturation will solve.

     

  • RazperilRazperil Member Posts: 289
    Originally posted by URMAKER

    i'd go with eq2 no question about it. 90% of the people who have anything bad to say about it always bring up soe well they've screwed up games before but this isn't one of them. lotro is an ok game but it is so bland and lacks depth only the die hard  lotr "book" fans will play longer than 6 months.
    And you have no facts on how long someone is going to play Lord of the rings for. Stop speculating about things you can only have an opinion about. And I hardly doubt you're a mind reader.. So there you go. Now back to the thread.. I play Everquest 2 and it's a great game. A lot to do and I mean a lot.  Great graphics too. The stories in Everquest 2 are put together really well too. And the voices add so much to the game. Lord of the rings was just released. So people can not say how the game is going to be when they are going on what they have played in beta. Like I've said before, Turbine has a lot of plays with Lord of the rings. My suggestion would be to go to the lord of the rings thread. There is an invite area there for the buddy keys. You can hopefully get one and try it out yourself to see if it's for you. Also, Ever1uest 2 has a trail as well. You can even play thier newest expansion. A good deal if I say so myself. Good luck to you in what one you chose.
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