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VETs it is time to come back!

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  • LightleafLightleaf Member Posts: 61
    Originally posted by 0k21

    This thread is just asking for flames..... So here's one.... Veteran players will not come back not because SOE are supposedly bringing the old features back, but because they have been lied to, cheated out of their money and had all their progress taken away from them with no compensation for the time that they spent getting that progress. The reason I say they, is because I spent most of my time roleplaying and socializing in pre-cu SWG so I did not feel the full brunt of the patches that were introduced, but for all that, I had the community I really liked taken away from me and I had friends there that I now probably will never meet online again because I didn't have a chance to get their contacts out of game, the loss of the pre-cu SWG wasn't just a nerf, it was an entire community an entire several years worth of development and gameplay.
    If you're honestly looking for compensation, you should look at the SOE EULA, and realize "Hey, this is a game, my compensation was the time I spent playing the game."  I can understand your loss, but do not blame it on the NGE, some people quit because they get bored of the same thing, which is why I left SWG even before the CU, hell, I never even PLAYED the CU, I dropped some skills to take up master doc and just logged off one day and didn't come back until NGE and found I was level 69, I was pissed, sure, but I got over it and kept playing. (But this was after a heated argument with a CSR).  I don't even see why they have to be as blind as to not put up "Classic" servers, which would essentially triple their current monthly income.  But hey, they want to make a dumb decision such as that,  so let them have their way and find something else to play.
  • omni40omni40 Member Posts: 22

    the reason most of us will never come back is because. we feel sold out by SOE.

    no matter how much they change swg . we where done wrong and nolonger trust SOE in any fasion.

    for my self the hurt is so deep , i will not play any SOE game.

  • DvolDvol Member Posts: 273

    Nah..April 05 was the time when SWG started to lose me, just went down from there..There has been to many things changed that doesnt appeal to me..But SOE may try CU3 third times a charm it needs it..Actually if i think if they took the best parts of the last 2 systems, and improved them polished it,.Then post asking for more players to come back wouldnt be needed..

  • hinhithhinhith Member Posts: 7
    Whats this about a free trial?  How do I play why old characters on a free trial?  If thats possible I'd like to TRY it out again....only if its FREE though. 

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  • kcypher2000kcypher2000 Member Posts: 116
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    nope i won't,

     does combat change from point and click  to somethink usefull? do we have our 32 profs back ?

    are there different  types of  XP possible other then combat  xp ? Is Jedi hard to obtain ?    is Jedi Ranking back in place ?  do they get rid of classes and levels ?  is visible combat que in place ? and ...and ...endless list  and the  most imporatnt question , is another company  in charge  for  to maintain game and servers other  then $OE ?



    btw rating went down to 6.1 , it gets worser and worser .....
    Combat before was spam the strongest attack over an over on your buffed up fotm proffession.



    31 out of the 32 professions were all broken, I played  a Ranger and liked to use grenades that would hurt me more than the enemies.  You are right though that alteast one of those profs would work, and that would be our token fotm.



    Yes the game was great when jedi were hard to obtain, i loved seeing all the AFK hologrinders. 



    The game always had some classes and levels just you couldn't see them.



    My suggestion to everyone, if you want to come back to the game bring a real life friend who never played pre-cu.  They will give you a much more objective opinion on the game as it stands now.  And it will be funner.
  • Realm-ReaperRealm-Reaper Member Posts: 501
    Originally posted by 0k21

    This thread is just asking for flames..... So here's one.... Veteran players will not come back



    hmmm...I am a VET and I came back....

    honestly, you need to come back and give it a try after chapter 6 hits. I can tell there is nothing out there right now that compares with the current SWG. Do the free trial....open your mind....give it an honest effort....what could be lost by giving it a try?

     

    Show me another game that is just like SWG pre-CU and I will jump in a heartbeat. The thing of it is....every game that is in development, is nothing like our old game. I hope to see a game like the once we loved...but it simply is not likley. The industry is not  GOING TO BUILD A GAME LIKE THAT....EVER AGAIN! It goes against every trend in the current market.

    I wish it was not true!

  • ownedyou1ownedyou1 Member Posts: 364
    Now that CH is back, and the NEW dev team is great (all the shit devs such as torres and helios left), Development has never been faster!
  • airborne519airborne519 Member Posts: 542
    Originally posted by Realm-Reaper


    VETS!...
     
    There has never been another time better than now. I have to say, that I am having more fun now than ever. All we are missing is a few more players. So come on back...I think you will like what you see.
    Do the free trial...what have ya got to loose? This week alone I have seen my Old friends list light up! I am seeing people I have not seen since 2004. We have been having a blast. It really is like old times again. ELDER tags are everywhere!
    If you do come back, be patient. It does take time to learn ( not long ). There are many people willing to help, so don't be afraid to ask. I think that with the exception of commando, all the professions a balanced and my Spy PWNZ commandos anyway....so it does not bother me.
    So, come on back! Chapter 6 is going to rock!!!!!!.....to all you former (CH) Creature Handlers, I can tell you that you are going to love what they have done with your old profession. Go ahead and sign up for the free trial...make a toon on (TC) Test Center and give BM Beast Master a try!!!! I don't think you will be disapointed.
     
    BTW....I hear TKM, Swordsman, and Pikeman!!!...as a MELEE MASTER (just a rumor ATM)
     
    Just our of curiosity.. what server are you in? every day I have logged in, the server is a ghost town.

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  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276
    Originally posted by Realm-Reaper


    VETS!...
     
    There has never been another time better than now. I have to say, that I am having more fun now than ever. All we are missing is a few more players. So come on back...I think you will like what you see.
    Do the free trial...what have ya got to loose? This week alone I have seen my Old friends list light up! I am seeing people I have not seen since 2004. We have been having a blast. It really is like old times again. ELDER tags are everywhere!
    If you do come back, be patient. It does take time to learn ( not long ). There are many people willing to help, so don't be afraid to ask. I think that with the exception of commando, all the professions a balanced and my Spy PWNZ commandos anyway....so it does not bother me.
    So, come on back! Chapter 6 is going to rock!!!!!!.....to all you former (CH) Creature Handlers, I can tell you that you are going to love what they have done with your old profession. Go ahead and sign up for the free trial...make a toon on (TC) Test Center and give BM Beast Master a try!!!! I don't think you will be disapointed.
     
    BTW....I hear TKM, Swordsman, and Pikeman!!!...as a MELEE MASTER (just a rumor ATM)
     
    Ok, i will try it again. What server are you in, i want to meet fun people
  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    Originally posted by hinhith

    Whats this about a free trial?  How do I play why old characters on a free trial?  If thats possible I'd like to TRY it out again....only if its FREE though. 
    If you have the game installed still, login to Launchpad with your old account info andif you have the trial marked on your account, you'll login as if you were subscribed :)

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  • LaterisLateris Member UncommonPosts: 1,847
    I came back.  I started  over from lvl 1 under  the legacy quests system.  Under the NGE it works very well. I do miss the Pre CU era but I am actually having a good time.  WTF happened? It used to be worse than Trunk Federations 2nd  CD after the little guy quit.  In fact I messed with Beast Master in Test Center and it was really good. I have to admit the expertise system works. I still miss the skill system. The loot system works although  I feel crafters are shafted. But there seems to be a new change in the air.  I quit doing PVP so I can embrace PVE- which was a good decision.

    This game is getting better since Jules T is gone.  Ok------- go ahead and flame me I can only write what I seeplayand feel. I do love you all and expect a good kick in the head because I was so anti SWG post CU.
  • GinazGinaz Member RarePosts: 2,572
    Originally posted by Realm-Reaper


    VETS!...
     
    There has never been another time better than now. I have to say, that I am having more fun now than ever. All we are missing is a few more players. So come on back...I think you will like what you see.
    Do the free trial...what have ya got to loose? This week alone I have seen my Old friends list light up! I am seeing people I have not seen since 2004. We have been having a blast. It really is like old times again. ELDER tags are everywhere!
    If you do come back, be patient. It does take time to learn ( not long ). There are many people willing to help, so don't be afraid to ask. I think that with the exception of commando, all the professions a balanced and my Spy PWNZ commandos anyway....so it does not bother me.
    So, come on back! Chapter 6 is going to rock!!!!!!.....to all you former (CH) Creature Handlers, I can tell you that you are going to love what they have done with your old profession. Go ahead and sign up for the free trial...make a toon on (TC) Test Center and give BM Beast Master a try!!!! I don't think you will be disapointed.
     
    BTW....I hear TKM, Swordsman, and Pikeman!!!...as a MELEE MASTER (just a rumor ATM)
     
    I tried it shortly after they came out with talents...err...expertise.  I'll admit it was better than when I left in Dec. 2005 but it was still garbage compared to what it was.  So no thanks, I won't be coming back.

    Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?

    Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.

  • DerykDeryk Member Posts: 35

    I have to agree that there's never a better time to come back to SWG and SOE games in general! Especially with Station Access! $30 for 6 great MMOs! Wow. That's a value IMHO! I'm never bored now looking for a MMO to play. Teamed up with Ventrilo and all my friends on that, we never have a lack of fun things to do now!

    SWG is awesome now Post-NGE (that's what we call it now with the new Expertise system and Legacy quest series)!  I'm enjoying it honestly better than pre-CU! The old system frankly sucked. Everyone knew it. Those of you that are anti-SOE just won't admit it now after NGE released. Alot of good things came of NGE, but admittedly I hated it when it first came out. But after 18 months on...hey. I can live with NGE now! It's become a terrific thing for SWG!!!

    So anyways. Me and my friends (most of us have stayed with it through the bad and worst parts of the last 18 months, but now, we're glad we stayed! It's been a LONG-term payoff, with much fun had along the way.

    After all...isnt that why we play video games? To have fun and not worry about what someone is doing in San Antonio, TX? I sure don't think about Devs when I play video games. It's about me hanging out with my friends and all of us having a good time!

    :D

    Peace all!

  • airborne519airborne519 Member Posts: 542

    Ok, I'm reading how amazing the game is now.. but I still can't find this elusive server that everyone is re-living the SWG experience.  The servers I have logged on to have sage brush rolling around.  lol. 

    Seriously, I would love to experience this wonderful rebirth.. post your servers and where everyone is hiding so I can join in. Thanks!

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  • Riho06Riho06 Member Posts: 431

    I'm on Bria, partying pretty hard with some AFK bots at the moment. Haven't seen a live character in 3 hours, the funny thing is when we bumped into each other the conversation started with 'Have you seen anyone on this server?'

  • airborne519airborne519 Member Posts: 542
    Originally posted by Riho06


    I'm on Bria, partying pretty hard with some AFK bots at the moment. Haven't seen a live character in 3 hours, the funny thing is when we bumped into each other the conversation started with 'Have you seen anyone on this server?'

    Yep, and I thought Bria was one of the busiest servers... I'm tired of looking for people, I will wait to see if someone has a real hot spot for me.

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  • Hoobley_deletedHoobley_deleted Member Posts: 677
    Originally posted by Riho06


    I'm on Bria, partying pretty hard with some AFK bots at the moment. Haven't seen a live character in 3 hours, the funny thing is when we bumped into each other the conversation started with 'Have you seen anyone on this server?'
    Where were you? (geographically)



    I find this statement hard to believe, Bria has a fairly healthy population.





    *edit* at least it did a couple of months ago when I was still playing.
  • DerykDeryk Member Posts: 35

    Originally posted by Riho06


    I'm on Bria, partying pretty hard with some AFK bots at the moment. Haven't seen a live character in 3 hours, the funny thing is when we bumped into each other the conversation started with 'Have you seen anyone on this server?'
    I can go to Mos Eisley, Theed, Lok, Coronet City, Bespin, Moenia even (just to name a FEW) and find people during primetime hours (after 6 PM Eastern, weekdays or just about anytime on weekends) and find PLENTY of people on Bria! I might add I have found consistently MORE and more people as time goes by as well.
  • GeridenGeriden Member UncommonPosts: 390

    Have they cleared out all those god game houses yet i actualy got lost for like an hour

    surrounded by like a thousand homes scattered around the place it made me quit

    il give the new trial a shot im bored

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    Originally posted by Geriden


    Have they cleared out all those god game houses yet i actualy got lost for like an hour
    surrounded by like a thousand homes scattered around the place it made me quit
    il give the new trial a shot im bored

    Purge starts happening June 5th.

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  • JasPlunJasPlun Member Posts: 155

     

    Well funny thing is I would have come back a long time ago if they would not have persisted with the NGE's stupid ass interface and First Person like targeting system which feels clunky and uncomfortable to play. Hell you cannot even have the same camera control you once had you stare at your backside the entire time.I would have been fine with alot of the changes this is the change I cannot stand. I hated the CU when it came out but I got used to it and eventually liked it and was having fun again this never happened with NGE the more I played it the more I hated it and I for the life of me cannot see how you or the current playerbase are enjoying playing this piece of crap the way it is now. I came back for a week on my alt toon to see if he had packed up all his stuff like my main did when I quit and it still stinks Vets do not let these pathetic gamers try to lure you back to the game we once loved because until SWG gets rid of the NGE you will hate it even if there us no other mmo like it steer clear and play Battlefront or something to get your Star Wars Fix. If Any SOE OR LUCASARTS DEVS HAPPEN TO READ THIS UNDERSTAND ITS NOT THE GOOD THINGS YOUR TRYING TO DO NOW, BUT ITS THE STUPID GAME INTERFACE THATS KEEPING ALOT OF PLAYERS AWAY FROM YOUR GAME FIX THIS AND MAYBE MAYBE SOME OF US WILL GIVE IT ANOTHER GO. Until then I will never ever play another game or game that uses the SOE name on it that goes for Gods n Heroes,Vangaurd or any other game co. that chooses to align itself with you. I will only change my mind in the case SOE Public Apologizes and makes it right to its players by opening Classic servers.  Blizzard has made alot of money off me and other vets from swg since CU and NGE 2 years of WOW man thats alot of money $OE could have made from me had they left it alone and published content,and continued to improve CU. 1 last thing funny thing is during the time I was playing the CU the game was improving alot hell the populations were even going up so why the change in the 1st place?

  • DerykDeryk Member Posts: 35

    I figured I'd log in and take a small sample of the population for a 15-minute time period on Bria. I logged last at Theed which the night I logged must have had 20 to 30 people hanging out by the starport. Only two or three of those were advertising anything. Most were coming and going.

    Bria Server 7:55 AM to 8:10 AM on Friday, April 27, 2007:

    Theed: Was here for only 5 minutes

    Sla'sovi Aiu      CL30   Jedi                         Zoned in and went in starport

    ADEia               CL90    Entertainer            Zoned in and went in starport

    Iwookie            CL44    Jedi                        Zoned in stood by a terminal

    Kuv                   CL8       ???                         Hopped on Speeder



    Mos Eisley: Could barely write fast enough and missed 3 or 4 people's names etc... This was just at the starport!!!

    Nemok            CL90    ???                         AFK

    Kesos Edagi  CL62    Commando          Sent me a /tell if I'd like to group! Told him politely I was taking a sample of population.

    Pyro-Rebal     CL73    BH?                        Took off somewhere

    monkeyy         CL90    ???                          Was standing still

    misz pre-cu    CL90    Entertainer            Sitting in the starport

    Kaylars Kromagnon   ???                         Standing at a starport terminal. Didn't see where he went...was trying to get names. lol

    Masne Ornegowi 10   Jedi                        Running

    DarkAge' Spawn   22  BH?                       AFK

    Debra              CL1     ???                          Advertiser

    Darhtmaul     CL6       Jedi                        Moving about the area

    Sirac Tiha      CL90    Medic                      Advertiser

    All in all I'd say this is NOT too bad of a sample for 8:00 AM! Heck, half my friends are not even awake til 10:00 AM or so! lol  Mind also that I am a pretty slow writer and spent half of the 15 minutes just writing. I know there were people I missed, so...I guess not bad Bria Server!

    :D

  • DerykDeryk Member Posts: 35

     

    Originally posted by JasPlun


     
    Well funny thing is I would have come back a long time ago if they would not have persisted with the NGE's stupid ass interface and First Person like targeting system which feels clunky and uncomfortable to play. Hell you cannot even have the same camera control you once had you stare at your backside the entire time.I would have been fine with alot of the changes this is the change I cannot stand. I hated the CU when it came out but I got used to it and eventually liked it and was having fun again this never happened with NGE the more I played it the more I hated it and I for the life of me cannot see how you or the current playerbase are enjoying playing this piece of crap the way it is now. I came back for a week on my alt toon to see if he had packed up all his stuff like my main did when I quit and it still stinks Vets do not let these pathetic gamers try to lure you back to the game we once loved because until SWG gets rid of the NGE you will hate it even if there us no other mmo like it steer clear and play Battlefront or something to get your Star Wars Fix. If Any SOE OR LUCASARTS DEVS HAPPEN TO READ THIS UNDERSTAND ITS NOT THE GOOD THINGS YOUR TRYING TO DO NOW, BUT ITS THE STUPID GAME INTERFACE THATS KEEPING ALOT OF PLAYERS AWAY FROM YOUR GAME FIX THIS AND MAYBE MAYBE SOME OF US WILL GIVE IT ANOTHER GO. Until then I will never ever play another game or game that uses the SOE name on it that goes for Gods n Heroes,Vangaurd or any other game co. that chooses to align itself with you. I will only change my mind in the case SOE Public Apologizes and makes it right to its players by opening Classic servers.  Blizzard has made alot of money off me and other vets from swg since CU and NGE 2 years of WOW man thats alot of money $OE could have made from me had they left it alone and published content,and continued to improve CU. 1 last thing funny thing is during the time I was playing the CU the game was improving alot hell the populations were even going up so why the change in the 1st place?



    A few things. You CAN change your view to center view pre-NGE! The Expertise system allows you to customize your character so  you're not a carbon-mold of every other person in your profession. I know many players of the same classes and no two have the same abilities or powers!

     

    Obviously you are unaware of the changes, so please educate yourself before misinforming or trying to mislead that nothing has changed. MANY people are joining this game, and if it's not veterans returning...it's new people! So that's all I have to say on the matter.

    Peace :D

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945

    www.thegalaxyreport.com/tgr

     

    Just go listen to the galaxy report if you want to hear how boring the game still is.  A free trial might bring back some smarkly memmories of fun times, but this is the same old broken game with no content. 

     

    Yay they added back some one piece of content their major patch took out 1.5 years ago!  How can you get excited about that, really are your expetations really set that low?

     

    Sorry to say this game is still flying around killing dinosaurs.

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    Originally posted by Deryk


     
    Originally posted by JasPlun


     
    Well funny thing is I would have come back a long time ago if they would not have persisted with the NGE's stupid ass interface and First Person like targeting system which feels clunky and uncomfortable to play. Hell you cannot even have the same camera control you once had you stare at your backside the entire time.I would have been fine with alot of the changes this is the change I cannot stand. I hated the CU when it came out but I got used to it and eventually liked it and was having fun again this never happened with NGE the more I played it the more I hated it and I for the life of me cannot see how you or the current playerbase are enjoying playing this piece of crap the way it is now. I came back for a week on my alt toon to see if he had packed up all his stuff like my main did when I quit and it still stinks Vets do not let these pathetic gamers try to lure you back to the game we once loved because until SWG gets rid of the NGE you will hate it even if there us no other mmo like it steer clear and play Battlefront or something to get your Star Wars Fix. If Any SOE OR LUCASARTS DEVS HAPPEN TO READ THIS UNDERSTAND ITS NOT THE GOOD THINGS YOUR TRYING TO DO NOW, BUT ITS THE STUPID GAME INTERFACE THATS KEEPING ALOT OF PLAYERS AWAY FROM YOUR GAME FIX THIS AND MAYBE MAYBE SOME OF US WILL GIVE IT ANOTHER GO. Until then I will never ever play another game or game that uses the SOE name on it that goes for Gods n Heroes,Vangaurd or any other game co. that chooses to align itself with you. I will only change my mind in the case SOE Public Apologizes and makes it right to its players by opening Classic servers.  Blizzard has made alot of money off me and other vets from swg since CU and NGE 2 years of WOW man thats alot of money $OE could have made from me had they left it alone and published content,and continued to improve CU. 1 last thing funny thing is during the time I was playing the CU the game was improving alot hell the populations were even going up so why the change in the 1st place?



    A few things. You CAN change your view to center view pre-NGE! The Expertise system allows you to customize your character so  you're not a carbon-mold of every other person in your profession. I know many players of the same classes and no two have the same abilities or powers!

     

    Obviously you are unaware of the changes, so please educate yourself before misinforming or trying to mislead that nothing has changed. MANY people are joining this game, and if it's not veterans returning...it's new people! So that's all I have to say on the matter.

    Peace :D

    Well done, you're more dedicated then me lol.  I generally try to avoid reading big blocks of text that aren't broken up :D

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