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  • xAlrythxxAlrythx Member Posts: 585
    Originally posted by Jumper2k

    "Monster Play" isn't worth counting as pvp... I only count PvP as player char vs other player char.



    Well that is your very weird and strange opinion. Which you counter-pointed yourself.

    I only count PvP as player char vs other player char.....

    .....

    Do you mean the opponent has to be a character that has been leveled from scratch for you to be counted as another player?

    I don't think I am following you here.

     

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  • ruegonruegon Member Posts: 63
    I'm waiting for Aoc too. like most , but i thought LOTRO would be a good filler tell then. It has a lot of the same features. and yes i will stay long enough to try out the PvP but just from playing the PvE i can tell that the raids and such are going to be a problem for most ppl. But will see.

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  • mokoleusmokoleus Member Posts: 142
    Originally posted by Flyte27


    I guess thats the problem for me.  The combat and classes don't interest me much.  The world doesn't feel very solid for some reason.  I find this in a lot of MMOs.   Perhaps it's just personal preference.  This game also seems to lack some of the fun abilities like water breathing, levitation, illusion spells, and things of that nature.  Anyway if you enjoy the game keep playing.  I just can't seem to get into it.
     
    Also about the cartoony graphics of WoW I like cartoony graphics.  All the RPGs I played when I was a kid were cartoony like Final Fantasy and Dragon Warrior for the nintendo systems.  I also like some realistic games like Everquest and Baldur's Gate.  My favorite Tolkien movie was probably the cartoon version of the Hobbit.  It was very cartoony, had great songs, and the depictions of all the differnt races and monsters were very well done IMO.  I do like the new LOTRO movies, but not as much as the cartoons.
      ok, so your saying you prefer the cartoon movies or the peter jackson ones??? wow dude, we truly have different tastes, i always wished those had been burned and buried, for all time! haha. i agree about the early final fantasy and dragon warrirors, loved them all, some of the best rpgs ever made. though, i truly love my champion in lotro, i haven't had this much fun with a melee class since tackling dathomir with my heavy swordsman wookiee in swg..... good times..... long ago haha
  • ghost047ghost047 Member UncommonPosts: 597
    I did not get into it either. The main reason is I always play healer and I have to say, I did not like the healer in LoTRo. My healer look like a bard, when I heal, I grab a banjo and start playing to heal people or even when I attack. Did not work for me.

    Get a life you freaking Gamer.....no no, you don't understand, I'm a Gamer, I have many lives!!

  • ArndurArndur Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,202
    I think the game is great. I havent been this into a game since i played my first MMO which was SWG a month after nge. I tried wow vangaurd and both EQS and just couldnt get into them. I played wow till 52 on a hunter i couldnt stand it it was grind grind grind. at least grinding on quest kinda gives it story in LOTR. And combat is great i think aminations are fine. But the monster play is cool your still playing another person and its open world.

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  • Hoobley_deletedHoobley_deleted Member Posts: 677
    You're not alone.



    I have nothing bad to say about LotRO.



    It just isn't the game for me.
  • uburex9uburex9 Member Posts: 30

    Yeah, you're not alone.  I couldn't get into LoTRO either.  Canceled my pre-order after trying out the open beta for roughly 3 weeks.

    It's a solid game, fairly bug free, great performance even on a crappy computer like mine, but it just didn't grab me.  Oh well, no harm, no foul.

  • brostynbrostyn Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,092

    There is zero immersion. At least its playable and probably emjoyable by those easily amused.

     

    The only thing it has going for it is that it is that its a pure WoW clone sans pvp, which, imo, makes the game even more boring. Whatever idiot is saying go back to WoW, do you realize this is WoW?

     

     

  • MeridionMeridion Member UncommonPosts: 1,495

    I really can't grasp that, as much as I appreciate your attutude of respect towards this game, I can't believe some of the things you say do really happen.

    No Immersion? - Please, tell me how not... Its the first game in years where NPCs are not entirely just standing there, houses look like houses, clouds look like clouds and trees like trees, a beechwood looks like a beechwood and a female like a female. You can play your own music, have an incredibly variety of emotes, immersive crafting experiences (like Farming or actuall cooking), really fitting day/night cycles (3hrs) and an incredibly realistic approach to combat (Melee, losing moral, no instant magical heal-heal). As much as I understand that some of you don't like this concept, it bears - for my understanding - a lot more immersion than magic based "Fireball and uber-sword"-combat like in any other game... Actually this is the first game since - say DaoC - where a sword looks like a sword, a vest like a vest and a staff like a staff.... For me, this is the incarnation of immersiveness...

    Equal lore to other games (like WoW)? - That is ... well, it's Tolkien. Own genesis, own languages, own continents, own cultures. I cannot see how this could anytime be compared to Warcraft. Warcraft is nice, but it couldn't be farther away from the complexity and dedication Tolkien put into his world. Seriously, how could it, Tolkien spend his life as a man and as a professor studying language and creating this world, how could a 20 man crew in a shack on the US-Westcoast do something nearly as impressive for a low budged strategy game (which it was in 94)?

    That's just two out of many points I can't understand. And I'm not a spoiled WoW kid, I just don't get what you expect from a game then? Don't tell me that "there are no good titles out atm, WAR will change everything"... If that is the case, you might be suffering from far to high expectations for any game...

    Meridion

     

  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811
    Originally posted by Flyte27


    I seem to be the only one who can't get into this game. 
     
    First the classes are all melee oriented.  The lore master and Minstral both have some magical abilities, but really are more melee oriented with some debuffs/heals.  This game seems to lack the magical pizaze of most games of this genre.  I guess this should be expected in a Tolkien game though.
     
    Second I see the interface is being compared to Warcraft a lot.  Warcrafts interface is a lot more solid looking.  LOTROs interface seems like a rough draft of a hotkey bar that isn't really there.  The icon animations are annoying and it's hard to tell when said ability is ready to use again.
     
    The character models are ugly, stiff, and lack animation.  The world may be beautiful in it's own way, but the character models look really bad to me.  The way they look and move just feels awkward.  Warcraft doesn't have the best models, but they have more animations for the models then any other game I've played which gives them a feeling they are alive.
     
    The minimap is cluttered with all kinds of icons.  It gives me a headache to look at it.
     
    Overall it's an okay game, but I have no idea how it's getting such great reviews.  I'd rather play WoW which I have played many times over and plan to continue to do.  Hopefully you all continue to have fun though.  I know everyone has differnt likes and dislikes.  I am a LOTRO fan and wish I could enjoy the game as much as everyone else seems to be, but alas I cannot.
    Those are my feeling exactly! You are not the only one!
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,086
    Originally posted by Meridion


    I really can't grasp that, as much as I appreciate your attutude of respect towards this game, I can't believe some of the things you say do really happen.
    No Immersion? - Please, tell me how not... Its the first game in years where NPCs are not entirely just standing there, houses look like houses, clouds look like clouds and trees like trees, a beechwood looks like a beechwood and a female like a female. You can play your own music, have an incredibly variety of emotes, immersive crafting experiences (like Farming or actuall cooking), really fitting day/night cycles (3hrs) and an incredibly realistic approach to combat (Melee, losing moral, no instant magical heal-heal). As much as I understand that some of you don't like this concept, it bears - for my understanding - a lot more immersion than magic based "Fireball and uber-sword"-combat like in any other game... Actually this is the first game since - say DaoC - where a sword looks like a sword, a vest like a vest and a staff like a staff.... For me, this is the incarnation of immersiveness...
    Equal lore to other games (like WoW)? - That is ... well, it's Tolkien. Own genesis, own languages, own continents, own cultures. I cannot see how this could anytime be compared to Warcraft. Warcraft is nice, but it couldn't be farther away from the complexity and dedication Tolkien put into his world. Seriously, how could it, Tolkien spend his life as a man and as a professor studying language and creating this world, how could a 20 man crew in a shack on the US-Westcoast do something nearly as impressive for a low budged strategy game (which it was in 94)?
    That's just two out of many points I can't understand. And I'm not a spoiled WoW kid, I just don't get what you expect from a game then? Don't tell me that "there are no good titles out atm, WAR will change everything"... If that is the case, you might be suffering from far to high expectations for any game...
    Meridion
     
    Meridion....I had to quote your post as you seem to convey the exact same thoughts/opinions that I would, which saves me a lot of typing.



    Back to the OP's point... I understand, not every game is for every player.  What some folks post in these threads about things like "lack of immersion" completely don't apply to me... I feel like I'm right in the middle of the Shire (which is in New Zealand right?) when I'm there...and I enjoy listening to someone play their lute under the stars as well.



    No big deal, if you are enjoying WOW, stay with it, I had a great time when I was there, but the end game raiding wasn't for me (falling asleep at my desk at work was not a great thing for my career) and I had leveled more than enough characters up to 60 (5 in fact) so it was time for me to do something new.   LotRO is the game for me, (right now) but I understand why it doesn't appeal to you or others.


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  • brostynbrostyn Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,092

    I probably am suffering from high expectations. Call me crazy.

    I found the combat to be too easy, the quest to be very linear, and honestly, I've played this game in 1000 other titles.

    I was just looking for something better than what is out there. LoTRO is very polished, but its the same old stuff. Its WoW repackaged, its EQ2 in Middle Earth, its the same as the rest!

    I've been playing RPGs for over 20 years have played this game a million times, and I'm quite bored of these fedex games. Its very linear, and holds you by the hand way too much.

    If asking for a MMO to break the linear path that all of them are stuck in is having high expectations, then I most definately do have high expectations.

  • ZsavoozZsavooz Member Posts: 532
    Originally posted by Flyte27


    I seem to be the only one who can't get into this game. 
     
    First the classes are all melee oriented.  The lore master and Minstral both have some magical abilities, but really are more melee oriented with some debuffs/heals.  This game seems to lack the magical pizaze of most games of this genre.  I guess this should be expected in a Tolkien game though.
     
    Second I see the interface is being compared to Warcraft a lot.  Warcrafts interface is a lot more solid looking.  LOTROs interface seems like a rough draft of a hotkey bar that isn't really there.  The icon animations are annoying and it's hard to tell when said ability is ready to use again.
     
    The character models are ugly, stiff, and lack animation.  The world may be beautiful in it's own way, but the character models look really bad to me.  The way they look and move just feels awkward.  Warcraft doesn't have the best models, but they have more animations for the models then any other game I've played which gives them a feeling they are alive.
     
    The minimap is cluttered with all kinds of icons.  It gives me a headache to look at it.
     
    Overall it's an okay game, but I have no idea how it's getting such great reviews.  I'd rather play WoW which I have played many times over and plan to continue to do.  Hopefully you all continue to have fun though.  I know everyone has differnt likes and dislikes.  I am a LOTRO fan and wish I could enjoy the game as much as everyone else seems to be, but alas I cannot.


    Yes, you are the only one...
  • EnerlaEnerla Member Posts: 97

    Originally posted by Mars505

    Find it funny that the anti-lotro supports have post counts of like 1-2 lololololol gg soe viral exploiters
    Mars505: Can I interpet what you say?

    Many anti-lotro supporters haven't registered before, haven't said anything bad about any game, haven't supported their game before, but it isn't important.

    But the hype they see about lotro and what they see about the game, and how bad it looks, maybe because of spamming fanboys made a lot of people register and post, and when they speak about it more people start registering and posting?

    So it is flaws in lotro and the community behind it made them register, post, spread the word?

    It is funny that you are not the first who speak about WoW people, who raise questions, and discuss lotro in lotro forum, and how you discuss their "retaliation" to spams, personal attacks by lotro people instead of telling where the game is good. Do you think it helps to make lotro and the community look good?

  • M1sf1tM1sf1t Member UncommonPosts: 1,583


    Originally posted by brostyn
    I probably am suffering from high expectations. Call me crazy.
    I found the combat to be too easy, the quest to be very linear, and honestly, I've played this game in 1000 other titles.
    I was just looking for something better than what is out there. LoTRO is very polished, but its the same old stuff. Its WoW repackaged, its EQ2 in Middle Earth, its the same as the rest!
    I've been playing RPGs for over 20 years have played this game a million times, and I'm quite bored of these fedex games. Its very linear, and holds you by the hand way too much.
    If asking for a MMO to break the linear path that all of them are stuck in is having high expectations, then I most definately do have high expectations.


    See this is what gets me with all these types pf posts. LOTRO was never presented as something "different". LOTRO has always presented itself as a highly polished game which follows the conventional MMO trends. Why in god's name did you think that LOTRO would be different just confounds me.

    Now if you really and truly wanted something different you'd of tried playing EvE or some other sandbox like game.

    It's like going from WoW to EQ2 to get away from the dwarf and elves theme and being upset that EQ2 has elves and dwarves. Makes absolutely no sense at all IMHO.

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  • flakesflakes Member Posts: 575
    Originally posted by M1sf1t


     

    Originally posted by brostyn

    I probably am suffering from high expectations. Call me crazy.

    I found the combat to be too easy, the quest to be very linear, and honestly, I've played this game in 1000 other titles.

    I was just looking for something better than what is out there. LoTRO is very polished, but its the same old stuff. Its WoW repackaged, its EQ2 in Middle Earth, its the same as the rest!

    I've been playing RPGs for over 20 years have played this game a million times, and I'm quite bored of these fedex games. Its very linear, and holds you by the hand way too much.

    If asking for a MMO to break the linear path that all of them are stuck in is having high expectations, then I most definately do have high expectations.

     



    See this is what gets me with all these types pf posts. LOTRO was never presented as something "different". LOTRO has always presented itself as a highly polished game which follows the conventional MMO trends. Why in god's name did you think that LOTRO would be different just confounds me.

    Now if you really and truly wanted something different you'd of tried playing EvE or some other sandbox like game.

    It's like going from WoW to EQ2 to get away from the dwarf and elves theme and being upset that EQ2 has elves and dwarves. Makes absolutely no sense at all IMHO.



    Agree fully here.People keep comparing these 3 and saying it's the same.Well then i could say WOW is just the same as DAOC.And as you are stating people keep going to the same games to  discover they look alike.But you hardly see them go to eve online and if they even do most immediatly quit after a few weeks for it having a too hard punishment on death and too hard to get the hang on.

  • killerwigkillerwig Member UncommonPosts: 236
    Originally posted by Flyte27


    I seem to be the only one who can't get into this game.   
    First the classes are all melee oriented.  The lore master and Minstral both have some magical abilities, but really are more melee oriented with some debuffs/heals.  This game seems to lack the magical pizaze of most games of this genre.  I guess this should be expected in a Tolkien game though. 
    Second I see the interface is being compared to Warcraft a lot.  Warcrafts interface is a lot more solid looking.  LOTROs interface seems like a rough draft of a hotkey bar that isn't really there.  The icon animations are annoying and it's hard to tell when said ability is ready to use again. 
    The character models are ugly, stiff, and lack animation.  The world may be beautiful in it's own way, but the character models look really bad to me.  The way they look and move just feels awkward.  Warcraft doesn't have the best models, but they have more animations for the models then any other game I've played which gives them a feeling they are alive. 
    The minimap is cluttered with all kinds of icons.  It gives me a headache to look at it. 
    Overall it's an okay game, but I have no idea how it's getting such great reviews.  I'd rather play WoW which I have played many times over and plan to continue to do.  Hopefully you all continue to have fun though.  I know everyone has differnt likes and dislikes.  I am a LOTRO fan and wish I could enjoy the game as much as everyone else seems to be, but alas I cannot.

    Hiya Flyte,

    It's a pity that you couldn't get into LOTRO like some of us. I totally respect your opinion on this, especially as you gave pretty valid reasons why you don't like the game. I won't disagree with you either, because I know that LOTRO doesn't float everyone's boat for various reasons; whether I think they're valid or not. WoW is a great game and I completely understand why you're into it, but I suspect that you were hoping that LOTRO offered more for your enjoyment.

    As for the reviews... well, it seems to be a pretty popular game right now, and I think the good response is justly deserved for many reasons. Really, I think most players are surprised that LOTRO is such a highly polished and complete game for what it offers, unlike many MMO releases in the past. I always loved story driven RPGs like Baldur's Gate or Planescape Torment, so for Turbine to combine that with an MMO is something new and great for me. This is the biggest draw for LOTRO for me - the rich story and background to play through and get involved in, and not just the big numbers and shiny magic items kind of faire we usually get offered. I expect that a lot of people like this level of depth and story driven aspect of LOTRO too, hence the rave reviews.

    I'm enjoying it, and I really hope that you continue to enjoy WoW too as your break from real life. Good post (even though I'm at odds with it).

  • sniper48101sniper48101 Member Posts: 93

     

    Originally posted by killerwig

    Originally posted by Flyte27


    I seem to be the only one who can't get into this game.   
    First the classes are all melee oriented.  The lore master and Minstral both have some magical abilities, but really are more melee oriented with some debuffs/heals.  This game seems to lack the magical pizaze of most games of this genre.  I guess this should be expected in a Tolkien game though. 
    Second I see the interface is being compared to Warcraft a lot.  Warcrafts interface is a lot more solid looking.  LOTROs interface seems like a rough draft of a hotkey bar that isn't really there.  The icon animations are annoying and it's hard to tell when said ability is ready to use again. 
    The character models are ugly, stiff, and lack animation.  The world may be beautiful in it's own way, but the character models look really bad to me.  The way they look and move just feels awkward.  Warcraft doesn't have the best models, but they have more animations for the models then any other game I've played which gives them a feeling they are alive. 
    The minimap is cluttered with all kinds of icons.  It gives me a headache to look at it. 
    Overall it's an okay game, but I have no idea how it's getting such great reviews.  I'd rather play WoW which I have played many times over and plan to continue to do.  Hopefully you all continue to have fun though.  I know everyone has differnt likes and dislikes.  I am a LOTRO fan and wish I could enjoy the game as much as everyone else seems to be, but alas I cannot.

    Hiya Flyte,

    It's a pity that you couldn't get into LOTRO like some of us. I totally respect your opinion on this, especially as you gave pretty valid reasons why you don't like the game. I won't disagree with you either, because I know that LOTRO doesn't float everyone's boat for various reasons; whether I think they're valid or not. WoW is a great game and I completely understand why you're into it, but I suspect that you were hoping that LOTRO offered more for your enjoyment.

    As for the reviews... well, it seems to be a pretty popular game right now, and I think the good response is justly deserved for many reasons. Really, I think most players are surprised that LOTRO is such a highly polished and complete game for what it offers, unlike many MMO releases in the past. I always loved story driven RPGs like Baldur's Gate or Planescape Torment, so for Turbine to combine that with an MMO is something new and great for me. This is the biggest draw for LOTRO for me - the rich story and background to play through and get involved in, and not just the big numbers and shiny magic items kind of faire we usually get offered. I expect that a lot of people like this level of depth and story driven aspect of LOTRO too, hence the rave reviews.

    I'm enjoying it, and I really hope that you continue to enjoy WoW too as your break from real life. Good post (even though I'm at odds with it).

    Can you tell me how is it your involved in this on going saga other than watching it happen at predetermined hard programmed points by clicking NPC's that show up on your radar screen?

    Seriously... you can not change one single thing about the story in any way shape or form. So really what it boils down too is you have something interesting to read while you click the same pixels as any other game.

    And to the person who said Lotro was never presented as being anything or whatever... Can you link me to these advertisments where they claimed like you said "Lotro will not be anything new or different". Don't confuse forum hype with marketing. If a fanboy spews it enough it does not make it true. Your type of statement is usually the first sign of disappointment in someones over hyped hopes versus reality.

    I honestly will believe no one who says they are not even a little let down.

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