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When's the new expansion coming out?

irukandjiirukandji Member Posts: 253
The last one was a year and a half ago.

"Hurray, finally a game where I can fulfill my lifelong dream of taking emotionally dead women and finding the most financially viable means to exploit their bodies with the ultimate goal of making them Hugh Hefner's personal furniture."

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  • FreelancerA4FreelancerA4 Member Posts: 145
    I doubt another expansion will ever come out for this game, just repackaged versions of the same game.

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  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489

    ROFLMAO.... whew...

    Thanks, I needed that!  

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • ObeeObee Member Posts: 1,550
    Originally posted by irukandji

    The last one was a year and a half ago.
    There will never be another expansion released for the game.  There aren't enough players left to make one profitable.  That was the reason they canceled the last one they were working on.




  • irukandjiirukandji Member Posts: 253
    I have been reading some of the current players' descriptions of server populations and thought they were doing good enough for an expansion. Hmmm, I wonder what that means?

    "Hurray, finally a game where I can fulfill my lifelong dream of taking emotionally dead women and finding the most financially viable means to exploit their bodies with the ultimate goal of making them Hugh Hefner's personal furniture."

  • Fraya9Fraya9 Member Posts: 112
    Originally posted by irukandji

    I have been reading some of the current players' descriptions of server populations and thought they were doing good enough for an expansion. Hmmm, I wonder what that means?
    That the only players left are the NGE'ers who dont know better and think a couple dozen people in Eisley is a lot?



    Yeah SWG isnt making enough to support itself anymore even with the severely reduced staff and complexity that came with the NGE its highly unlikely there will ever be another expansion unless they somehow stumble upon a perfect storm situation through a couple major changes to the game and by some miracle can strip off the extreme negative publicity (would probably take renaming the company, the game and hiring all new staff) and have a massive resurgance very soon.
  • suskesuske Member Posts: 714
    the new swg expansion will be ENTER: BLIXTEV"S TOILET!  it will come with a painting of nge fanboi's flushing thier money down the toilet and a toilet will spawn in every player's house.
  • ObeeObee Member Posts: 1,550
    Originally posted by irukandji

    I have been reading some of the current players' descriptions of server populations and thought they were doing good enough for an expansion. Hmmm, I wonder what that means?
    It means that many of those still playing the game have migrated from lower population servers to higher population ones.  More than half of the current servers are all but empty most of the time.  Look at the current board.  Most of the folks claiming high populations are the first ones to beg anyone thinking of trying out the game to join their server so they have someone else to play the game with.



    Even the President of SOE has recently stated that the servers need to be merged soon.  LucasArts shot that down, so the barren servers will remain barren.




  • irukandjiirukandji Member Posts: 253
    Originally posted by Obee

    Originally posted by irukandji

    I have been reading some of the current players' descriptions of server populations and thought they were doing good enough for an expansion. Hmmm, I wonder what that means?
    It means that many of those still playing the game have migrated from lower population servers to higher population ones.  More than half of the current servers are all but empty most of the time.  Look at the current board.  Most of the folks claiming high populations are the first ones to beg anyone thinking of trying out the game to join their server so they have someone else to play the game with.



    Even the President of SOE has recently stated that the servers need to be merged soon.  LucasArts shot that down, so the barren servers will remain barren.







    Do you think LA is trying to sabotage SWG because of impending release (rumor) of SWG 2?

    "Hurray, finally a game where I can fulfill my lifelong dream of taking emotionally dead women and finding the most financially viable means to exploit their bodies with the ultimate goal of making them Hugh Hefner's personal furniture."

  • ObeeObee Member Posts: 1,550
    Originally posted by irukandji

    Originally posted by Obee

    Originally posted by irukandji

    I have been reading some of the current players' descriptions of server populations and thought they were doing good enough for an expansion. Hmmm, I wonder what that means?
    It means that many of those still playing the game have migrated from lower population servers to higher population ones.  More than half of the current servers are all but empty most of the time.  Look at the current board.  Most of the folks claiming high populations are the first ones to beg anyone thinking of trying out the game to join their server so they have someone else to play the game with.



    Even the President of SOE has recently stated that the servers need to be merged soon.  LucasArts shot that down, so the barren servers will remain barren.







    Do you think LA is trying to sabotage SWG because of impending release (rumor) of SWG 2?

    I think it has more to do with the fact that nobody at LucasArts cares about the game, but they also don't want a product they are attached to being viewed as a failure (which is what merges would be an admission of).  Keeping the status quo allows LucasArts to not even have to mention the game, since it will keep the game safely under the gaming press' radar.



    As soon as servers are merged, almost every website and magazine will be contacting LucasArts and SOE asking if it is due t o the failure of the NGE.


  • Fraya9Fraya9 Member Posts: 112
    Originally posted by irukandji

    Originally posted by Obee

    Originally posted by irukandji

    I have been reading some of the current players' descriptions of server populations and thought they were doing good enough for an expansion. Hmmm, I wonder what that means?
    It means that many of those still playing the game have migrated from lower population servers to higher population ones.  More than half of the current servers are all but empty most of the time.  Look at the current board.  Most of the folks claiming high populations are the first ones to beg anyone thinking of trying out the game to join their server so they have someone else to play the game with.



    Even the President of SOE has recently stated that the servers need to be merged soon.  LucasArts shot that down, so the barren servers will remain barren.







    Do you think LA is trying to sabotage SWG because of impending release (rumor) of SWG 2? Nah I dont think theyre stupid enough to sabatage their own game when the players would migrate on their own for the most part (if SWG2 isnt a total piece of garbage of course).



    Besides SWG2 is still just a rumor theres no way they could have anything even close to starting closed beta without the industry having solid information.



    Theoretically though I suppose you could develop something completely in house and keep it under wraps until release but why would you want to when hype is so vital to initial sales and high initial sales are important for getting a game off the ground?
  • Fraya9Fraya9 Member Posts: 112
    Originally posted by Obee



    I think it has more to do with the fact that nobody at LucasArts cares about the game, but they also don't want a product they are attached to being viewed as a failure (which is what merges would be an admission of).  Keeping the status quo allows LucasArts to not even have to mention the game, since it will keep the game safely under the gaming press' radar.



    As soon as servers are merged, almost every website and magazine will be contacting LucasArts and SOE asking if it is due t o the failure of the NGE.



    Yeah thats true as well.. SWG has become the ugly mutant step child of the mmo industry that no one wants to admit to being related to and everyone hopes no one will mention so long as they keep it hidden in the back.
  • CrueltylizerCrueltylizer Member UncommonPosts: 58
    As said before a new SWG expansion will be most unlikely.



    As KOTOR III is supposed to be the next online Star Wars experience a new expansion would be a waste of time.

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  • NGESUCKSNGESUCKS Member Posts: 153
    LOL im still wondering how the game itself is in existence? As for better server population is 5 people instead of 4 a big gain?

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  • ObeeObee Member Posts: 1,550
    Originally posted by NGESUCKS

    LOL im still wondering how the game itself is in existence? As for better server population is 5 people instead of 4 a big gain?
    Not when person #5 is on the free trial and likely won't stick around when they want him to pay for the steaming pile.  It is better than before persons #3 and #4 moved from their old servers, where they were person #1 of 1 and #1 of 1 on their respective former servers.




  • DvolDvol Member Posts: 273
    Originally posted by irukandji

    The last one was a year and a half ago.



    *When pigs fly

    *When SOE admits the NGE was a huge failure

    *When SOE offers an apology and a Classic server

    *When Server merges arent needed

    *When SOE actually fixes a issue without changing the whole system

    *When people Stop paying for crap

    *When Shills stop trying to convince the world their game is the bestest

    *When Fanbois see through their rose colored glasses

    *When well you can fill in from here

  • Wildcat84Wildcat84 Member Posts: 2,304

    NEVER.

    SWG will never see another expansion.

  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529
    Implosion, yes. Expansion, No.

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  • iskareotbriaiskareotbria Member Posts: 12

    Think of the investement they would have to do ....

    First you need people -- no not 10k if that... lots of people.

    Second... you need to have a good track record and show promise... (Need I say more here?)

    Third you need to have a working base product that can sell itself... (Need I say more here as well?)

    Like I said...somthing to be said for things or games that have success and a expansion....

    I mean look at Star Wars Legos 1 -- whoda thunkit would be in the top 5 games of the year two years in a row..lol

     

    SWG pwnd by Legos... now that says soooo much...

  • DodeceDodece Member Posts: 76

    No there will not be another expansion, and it is not just a matter of the NGE either. Each expansion to the game before the NGE arrived was less then greated enthusiastically. What did not help was the way in which they were delivered. The first one robbed peter to pay paul. They neglected the core game development to focus on lightspeed angering many players. People do not buy expansions when they are angry about the way development is going.  Then they bundled RoTW with the less then liked CU. Not to mention the issues with the expansion itself which were vast. Then ToOW came bundled with the NGE which resulted in refunding. The result is each expansion have a pretty poor sell through, and it probabally got worse each time. With the very modest population in place now coupled with the fact that not all will buy. Well you get the idea.

    Realistically Lucas Arts has every reason to run Galaxies into the ground so they can not only get rid of the bad publicity, but they can then free up the license. The sooner they get rid of SWG the sooner they can build up hype for their next online property. Yes they can be that ruthless,  and would gladly use their position to pressure Sony into giveing up.

    The next Star Wars MMO has been in development for quite some time. Rumors, and details do not appear out of thin air. They come from some place. So while it might not be official yet, or released to the public covered by industry NDA. Chances are that there is a very refined demo already makeing the rounds as we talk here. First off the MMO market is growing, and second SWG did rather well until Sony ran it into the ground with bad business, development, and public relations practices. To think that Lucas arts is going to waste valuable development time is naive.

    The moment the NGE exploded was the moment the next MMO war set in motion.

  • xacovaxacova Member Posts: 190

    Well look at things from another angle: the game currently is doing poor, no doubt on that, in order to boost subcriptions they know full well they need content, and thats why they must make some form of an expansion to the game,current content is like a dry well, even rehashing the old content will not suffice.

    The way i see it is... expansion or they will over time lose more players, and its allready lost too many players they have to roll the dice again.  

  • DodeceDodece Member Posts: 76

    You are makeing a rather large assumption. Sony as a company has alot of problems, and Galaxies sadly is at the very bottom. While it might lock up a license, or supply a very modest income. This is not where the company is willing to take losses, or invest large amounts of money. Most likely they want to squeeze the resources of SOE division towards provideing content for their new console. They cannot take a loss on their new Playstation. They are already bleeding themselves to put it out. John Smedley would have a hell of a sales pitch.

    SOE is already committed to a variety of projects. Half a dozen other live games, and three or more in the pipe. That is just for the online RPG market. They also went on a recent buying spree, and are a major developer for the new console. To be blunt they are stretched thin, and will be lucky to not show a loss as a division even as their company is going to show a loss for the year.

    Eventually something is going to have to give as is, and the most likely would be Galaxies. Any money spent on that game could go so much further elsewhere a new game for the console for instance. The game is a total disaster area, and would require expensive rehabilitation. The code is horrid mess. The license is a drain on funds. The public perspective is awful. All this and there is no guarantee that Lucas Arts would even renew. Especially since the property is hot, and only getting hotter with the current console wars. Microsoft alone could double or triple any offer Sony made. With a larget install base includeing both the Xbox, and Vista combined with Xbox live. Microsoft could offer a much larger possibility for player base.

    Sony would have to look past it being bad business, and actually think that it was a worthwhile risk with no guarantee of success.

  • ObeeObee Member Posts: 1,550

    Originally posted by xacova


    Well look at things from another angle: the game currently is doing poor, no doubt on that, in order to boost subcriptions they know full well they need content, and thats why they must make some form of an expansion to the game,current content is like a dry well, even rehashing the old content will not suffice.
    The way i see it is... expansion or they will over time lose more players, and its allready lost too many players they have to roll the dice again.  

    They won't do an expansion because they would lose money on it.  The game has too poor of a reputation and too small of a playerbase for an expansion to turn a profit.  An expansion wouldn't revive the playerbase, since it isn't a lack of content that drove most of the former players away.

     

     

     

  • celee2222celee2222 Member Posts: 123

     

    Originally posted by Obee

    Originally posted by irukandji

    The last one was a year and a half ago.
    There will never be another expansion released for the game.  There aren't enough players left to make one profitable.  That was the reason they canceled the last one they were working on.



    what you have just written here is absolute rubbish

     

    the reason an expansion wasnt developed last year was because the poll results for content vs fixes came out in favour of bug fixes

    so the producers ordered the devs to fix the game and then start releasing content

    now the game is all but fixed  - they are releasing new content

    rebel themepark revamped - azure cabal quest line

    in chapter 7 there will be the imperial themepark and new heroic mob quests that require whole groups to defeat

    there should be an expansion next year  - the devs said no expandion for the this year

    they are also addressing the issue with groups - group sizes and xp values

    please get your facts right before posting please

  • Daed710Daed710 Member Posts: 134

     

    Originally posted by irukandji

    The last one was a year and a half ago.

     

    And thats the last one it will ever see.   SWG is on auto pilot until its sunset in favor of a new, un-tainted, SW mmo, and it'll be nothing but fixes and damage control until then, milk as much money as they can from the players that are left, and try to improve its image a tad in the process by bringing back some stuff from prenge here and there (from past experience, usually half assed bastardized versions of what we once had, but i guess somethings better than nothing, when youre fed rotten gruel daily, even cold oatmeal looks like a royal banquet, lol).

    Makes me sad, in one way I'll be happy to see SWG put to rest when it happens, the NGE tainted it beyond repair in many ways, but I also cant help but think what a kick ass game we couldve had, if only the last 2 years hadnt been wasted on failed revamps, and instead had been put into developing/balancing the original precu game, what a friggin waste of great potential, /sigh...

     

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  • ObeeObee Member Posts: 1,550

    Originally posted by celee2222


     
    Originally posted by Obee

    Originally posted by irukandji

    The last one was a year and a half ago.
    There will never be another expansion released for the game.  There aren't enough players left to make one profitable.  That was the reason they canceled the last one they were working on.



    what you have just written here is absolute rubbish

     

    the reason an expansion wasnt developed last year was because the poll results for content vs fixes came out in favour of bug fixes

    so the producers ordered the devs to fix the game and then start releasing content

    now the game is all but fixed  - they are releasing new content

    rebel themepark revamped - azure cabal quest line

    in chapter 7 there will be the imperial themepark and new heroic mob quests that require whole groups to defeat

    there should be an expansion next year  - the devs said no expandion for the this year

    they are also addressing the issue with groups - group sizes and xp values

    please get your facts right before posting please

    This was intended to be irony, right?

     

     

     

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