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Since lotr is out vanguard is done
PerryPanther
Member Posts: 149
Hello all,
My opinion i have played vanguard since it came out ... i gave it many hours and i did not like what i saw .. yes i know its new give time but i see this game dying before to long... lotr online will hurt it big time and warhammer will be the nail in the coffin ..... sigil the great master of eq 1 i think cannot perform with out tha backup of soe and the money this game is a failure!
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Well I disagree, I played LOTR online and that game sucks. Playing max setting on both games, VG beats LOTR only reason why LOTR looks good is the lighting effects they did a good job on it, makes the graphics looks alot better then it is. LOTR is very linear, you do this and go there next. LOTR is a big grind fest, well the way i felt after playing for awhile. VG is an adventure, you go where you want to go and do what you want to do, you decide how to play, depending whats your skills is, and I am not talking about char skills, i am talking about player skills.
I left LOTR and some of my friends for VG, much better game if you care how you get there, not how fast i got there.
BTW, one of my friends has the 1300xt card and plays well, 2 gig of memory is a must with VG.
LotRO is more likely to draw from WOW and disaffected players from other games who are looking for something different.
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To be honest, the game is a failure for YOU. Not to those that actually enjoys it.
And those that enjoys it are still around. Those that don't well they shouldn't bother play it should they?
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
oh no you didn't!
let's get that statment right. LOTRO generally appeals to people who like games that are bug free, don't want to tinker with their .ini files, like to have 20+ fps, like non-plastic graphics, have played enough Magic - The Gathering in their life and like to interact with other players.
Vanguard is for the rest.
As for a serious comment. I played EQ since day one. Vanguard has absolutely nothing in common with old school EQ or games of that generation (except for character animations) so don't try to sounds so frikkin elitist by pretenging Vanguard players are part of some special club.
The fact that Vanguard hasn't even reached EQ1 subscription numbers despite the fact that the mmo player population has multiplied by 20 (a rough guess) says it all.
Kthxbye
Players are already over there complaining that LOTRO is to simple and boring... And several people have made the comment it feels like a MMO for consoles...
You can't compare Vangaurd to LOTRO, two completly different concepts, Vanguard is a sand box and LOTRO is not... But I will give props to the programmers of LOTRO for making a pretty polished game before releasing it...
I am not putting down either game here but was just curious when Vanguard became a sandbox game? I was in since beta 2 and it wasn't the game for me but I saw it far from being a sandbox game.
I am editing my post because I still don't see it as a sandbox game even though you get housing and ships. I guess I don't see a sandbox unless it is skill based and not class based. Like I believe SWG was a sandbox at release but after the NGE it wasn't.
I get a little laugh every time I see a post like this from a Vanguard fan. You're basically saying, "Fine...leave! We don't want your kind around anyway! We're better off without you!"
Hehehe..I wonder if Brad would agree with you. I wonder if it makes him happy when he sees a "supporter" posting something like that.
Drive out all of the heretics! Cleanse the world of their foul stench! And when you're the last one left standing in the middle of an empty world you can do a little victory dance right before they shut the servers down.
Vanguard and Lotro are two TOTALLY different styles of games that draw 2 TOTALLY different crowds of gaming. Saying that Lotro is going to kill vanguard is like saying A new burger joint opening in town is going to kill off the seafood place.
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Nobody is going to argue the game was released way to soon, even Sigil warned everyone before launch that the game was being released early because of financial reasons...
Maybe you and I have different opinions about what sandbox is but to me its definatly in this catagory..
Nobody is going to argue the game was released way to soon, even Sigil warned everyone before launch that the game was being released early because of financial reasons...
Maybe you and I have different opinions about what sandbox is but to me its definatly in this catagory..
Let's hope then that SOE doesn't do the same to Vanguard is they did to SWG
I get a little laugh every time I see a post like this from a Vanguard fan. You're basically saying, "Fine...leave! We don't want your kind around anyway! We're better off without you!"
Hehehe..I wonder if Brad would agree with you. I wonder if it makes him happy when he sees a "supporter" posting something like that.
Drive out all of the heretics! Cleanse the world of their foul stench! And when you're the last one left standing in the middle of an empty world you can do a little victory dance right before they shut the servers down.
You know something, Brad from the beginning always been saying he wanted to target a differant market then WOWs base. In other words he wasnt targeting every player in the world. If everyone wanted to play this game, i am sure he wouldnt mind, but thats not point. Why some hate VG, because its a game not made to please everyone. He did not target every ex-WOW player, he wanted every ex-WOW player that wanted more. If you want the same junk as WOW but new, go to LOTRO you will enjoy it.
Right now, I am not missing at , all the kiddies from WOW, I am willing to pay twice or even triple a month to keep all the idiots out of my game world. I dont want a game for everyone, I want a game for me.
Apples and oranges mate......
Lotro and VG are vastly different games aimed at a different type of player period. LOTRO is a great game for WOW players who want some fresh scenery and a better setting for role play because aside from that they are identical.
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If you're willing to pay $30 million, you can have your own private game.
If you're willing to pay $30 million, you can have your own private game.
What scares you guys, that they might be enough players that dont want dumb down game, only way i can see why it hurts so much that someone dares to make a game not for the masses, because why care so much about VG, you guys must be hurting bad to be here on our forums. You feel, you been cheated? Dont worry there alot of games out there for you, just go easy on them, the DEVs can only go so fast.
If you're willing to pay $30 million, you can have your own private game.
What scares you guys, that they might be enough players that dont want dumb down game, only way i can see why it hurts so much that someone dares to make a game not for the masses, because why care so much about VG, you guys must be hurting bad to be here on our forums. You feel, you been cheated? Dont worry there alot of games out there for you, just go easy on them, the DEVs can only go so fast.
No, what scares me is a player that wants "a game for me", and is willing to pay whatever it takes to get that game.
It's kind of like the joke about the Yankee carpet bagger soliticing the Texas Southern Belle with money, only to be shot by the Southern gentleman. "Thank you sur for defending my honor", says the Southern Belle. "Defending you honor hell", replies the Southern gentleman. "I was only trying to keep them damn Yankees from raising the price of women in Texas".
I'm only tring to keep the MMORPG companies from raising the rate of a monthly subscription. You, sir, are a danger to the rest of us.
LOTRO is not a very good MMO. It just isnt
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Servers in LoTRO are getting too darn crowded already so Vanguard fans please hang in there with Vanguard OK ? , LoTRO is not the game for you.
I miss DAoC
If you're willing to pay $30 million, you can have your own private game.
What scares you guys, that they might be enough players that dont want dumb down game, only way i can see why it hurts so much that someone dares to make a game not for the masses, because why care so much about VG, you guys must be hurting bad to be here on our forums. You feel, you been cheated? Dont worry there alot of games out there for you, just go easy on them, the DEVs can only go so fast.
No, what scares me is a player that wants "a game for me", and is willing to pay whatever it takes to get that game.
It's kind of like the joke about the Yankee carpet bagger soliticing the Texas Southern Belle with money, only to be shot by the Southern gentleman. "Thank you sur for defending my honor", says the Southern Belle. "Defending you honor hell", replies the Southern gentleman. "I was only trying to keep them damn Yankees from raising the price of women in Texas".
I'm only tring to keep the MMORPG companies from raising the rate of a monthly subscription. You, sir, are a danger to the rest of us.
No sir, your confuse. I pay for what I want, not for what you may like. I say it a simple way i am not alone, get use to it.I would pay more anyday to get what i wanted then pay less and not get what I wanted, I live in Amercia, where I can decide how I want to play my game.
If you're willing to pay $30 million, you can have your own private game.
What scares you guys, that they might be enough players that dont want dumb down game, only way i can see why it hurts so much that someone dares to make a game not for the masses, because why care so much about VG, you guys must be hurting bad to be here on our forums. You feel, you been cheated? Dont worry there alot of games out there for you, just go easy on them, the DEVs can only go so fast.
No, what scares me is a player that wants "a game for me", and is willing to pay whatever it takes to get that game.
It's kind of like the joke about the Yankee carpet bagger soliticing the Texas Southern Belle with money, only to be shot by the Southern gentleman. "Thank you sur for defending my honor", says the Southern Belle. "Defending you honor hell", replies the Southern gentleman. "I was only trying to keep them damn Yankees from raising the price of women in Texas".
I'm only tring to keep the MMORPG companies from raising the rate of a monthly subscription. You, sir, are a danger to the rest of us.
No sir, your confuse. I pay for what I want, not for what you may like. I say it a simple way i am not alone, get use to it.I would pay more anyday to get what i wanted then pay less and not get what I wanted, I live in Amercia, where I can decide how I want to play my game.
Might you consider a different option, pay less and get what you wanted? Why pay more for what you want when you can pay $15/month? That's all Vanguard currently is. Why ask them to raise the subsciption fee by two to three times?
i play wow and i didn't find lotr fun at all. it's pretty much like having your hand held and being lead around from one spot to the next. wow isn't even close as being as "sandbox" style as vanguard but its a lot less linear than lotr. so i don't think the lotr is for wow fans mentality is all that accurate. its more for the lotr "book fans" or 1st time mmorgers.
If you're willing to pay $30 million, you can have your own private game.
What scares you guys, that they might be enough players that dont want dumb down game, only way i can see why it hurts so much that someone dares to make a game not for the masses, because why care so much about VG, you guys must be hurting bad to be here on our forums. You feel, you been cheated? Dont worry there alot of games out there for you, just go easy on them, the DEVs can only go so fast.
No, what scares me is a player that wants "a game for me", and is willing to pay whatever it takes to get that game.
It's kind of like the joke about the Yankee carpet bagger soliticing the Texas Southern Belle with money, only to be shot by the Southern gentleman. "Thank you sur for defending my honor", says the Southern Belle. "Defending you honor hell", replies the Southern gentleman. "I was only trying to keep them damn Yankees from raising the price of women in Texas".
I'm only tring to keep the MMORPG companies from raising the rate of a monthly subscription. You, sir, are a danger to the rest of us.
No sir, your confuse. I pay for what I want, not for what you may like. I say it a simple way i am not alone, get use to it.I would pay more anyday to get what i wanted then pay less and not get what I wanted, I live in Amercia, where I can decide how I want to play my game.
Might you consider a different option, pay less and get what you wanted? Why pay more for what you want when you can pay $15/month? That's all Vanguard currently is. Why ask them to raise the subsciption fee by two to three times?
Because if it helps to keep the game going or better yet for furture games that will need the best of the best computers to run them, I am willing to support it. I never like the idea that a game has to be made for everyone it will never work. Players that care more about how fast they can get to max level then caring on how they got there will never get along. The adventure is more important then the reaching there. I want to be a hero not become the hero. There is a big differance in the two.
I played LotR beta for a time until I was invited into the Vanguard beta.
I haven't left Vanguard since.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not implying Vanguard doesn't have problems ( although I HAVE seen much worse), all I'm saying is, Vanguard has a premise I find much more attractive than the "themepark" type games.
What I mean by a themepark game, is one where you are a very small cog in the megaclockwork that is the game's heavily pre-defined, pre-packaged and heavily licensed lore. And some of these games herd the tourists/players through in a much more linear fashion than others. LotR, which was built on the legend of Middle Earth, is very linear. Everquest II which was built on the legend of the original Norrath is pretty linear too (although not as bad as it used to be). Other themepark games, like SWG, do a weee bit better job of allowing freedom.
The best games to me are ones built in a sandbox style (very un-linear) and though they have built in lore, it isn't stiffling. Good examples of this would be games like Eve Online and Vanguard
I certainly think there is a place for both game types. There are certainly alot of Lord of the Rings fans out there who are going to wet themselves when they run into a computer or GM played version of Arwen or Tom Bombadil. But for me, I like the idea of BECOMING an Arwen or a Tom Bombadil in a world whose legends aren't created yet.