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Where does true FFA PVP still exist?

siftifiedsiftified Member Posts: 258
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I'm trying to find something to tide me over until PoBS or AoC. I would really prefer something with FFA PVP (Don't suggest WoW). If I can't find anything decent I may just resub to AC1 Darktide and see what's happening there . These are the ones I've already played anyway!

UO - EvE - L2 - DaOC (was tempted but heard the community was dead) - ShadowBane - Vanguard

If anyone knew of any games that I've overlooked and should try, I would greatly appreciate any feedback whatsoever!

Thanks!

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  • Jimmy_ScytheJimmy_Scythe Member CommonPosts: 3,586

    Well there's a lot of FFA PvP in Iraq right now. You may also be able to find some in most South African countries as well. If that's to far, just take a trip to Martin Luther King Dr in any major city. Scratch that, if you're white  you won't get the full FFA PvP experience on MLK DR. because the mods are pretty strict about PKing white people. Maybe you could just go to a GWAR, Slipknot, Cannibal Corpses, or Skinny Puppy concert and just jump in the mosh pit. It's basically the same thing.

  • xaussxauss Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 384

    lots of good advice from jimmy - though i have to take issue with 'South African' countries - since South Africa (Republic of South Africa) is a country - and 'South African' is a nationality.

    besides, places like Sudan and Eritrea are possibly more dangerous, and lets not forget central and Western Africa too...

    but my top tips would be Falluja (Iraq) or visit cartel owned agriculture in south america wearing a dark blue jacket sporting the initials DEA in big white letters

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  • DarkGrieverDarkGriever Member Posts: 80
    its gear based pvp
  • xaussxauss Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 384
    Originally posted by DarkGriever

    its gear based pvp
    true - but there is FULL LOOT

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  • IakXasturIakXastur Member UncommonPosts: 49
    Entirely too funny, but oh so wrong
  • JackDonkeyJackDonkey Member Posts: 383
    Originally posted by Jimmy_Scythe


    Well there's a lot of FFA PvP in Iraq right now. You may also be able to find some in most South African countries as well. If that's to far, just take a trip to Martin Luther King Dr in any major city. Scratch that, if you're white  you won't get the full FFA PvP experience on MLK DR. because the mods are pretty strict about PKing white people. Maybe you could just go to a GWAR, Slipknot, Cannibal Corpses, or Skinny Puppy concert and just jump in the mosh pit. It's basically the same thing.
    that's RvR



    edit: well not the going to concerts part



    FFA pvp is nice cause if your seargant pisses you off you can swing a sword or shoot yoru lasers at him.

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  • lilreap2k3lilreap2k3 Member UncommonPosts: 353

    Originally posted by siftified
    I'm trying to find something to tide me over until PoBS or AoC. I would really prefer something with FFA PVP (Don't suggest WoW). If I can't find anything decent I may just resub to AC1 Darktide and see what's happening there image. These are the ones I've already played anyway!
    UO - EvE - L2 - DaOC (was tempted but heard the community was dead) - ShadowBane - Vanguard
    If anyone knew of any games that I've overlooked and should try, I would greatly appreciate any feedback whatsoever! image
    Thanks!

    You listed pretty much all of the FFA PvP mmorpgs. If none of them interest you, you should probably resub AC. I am in the same boat, but I refuse to play a game that is a ghost town regardless of how good the pvp is. Which for me rules out AC1, granted it was fun while the game was alive.

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  • defenestratedefenestrate Member CommonPosts: 578
    jabouti bay, africa
  • healz4uhealz4u Member Posts: 1,065
    True FFA PvP exists on Vanguard's FFA PvP server, but you need an ironclad stomach for this.  I tried it, and I played with a core group of friends but did not enjoy it.





    I play on Team PvP on Varking because I need that spice of challenge, danger, and sense of an unpredictable environment.  The Team PvP server does this for me enough.  There are raiding teams of PvP players that you sometimes have to look out for.  It can actually be a lot of fun at times.  lol.
  • RollotamasiRollotamasi Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 898
    Originally posted by Jimmy_Scythe


    Well there's a lot of FFA PvP in Iraq right now. You may also be able to find some in most South African countries as well. If that's to far, just take a trip to Martin Luther King Dr in any major city. Scratch that, if you're white  you won't get the full FFA PvP experience on MLK DR. because the mods are pretty strict about PKing white people. Maybe you could just go to a GWAR, Slipknot, Cannibal Corpses, or Skinny Puppy concert and just jump in the mosh pit. It's basically the same thing.
    L f@cking O fu@cking L.  That might have to go on my top 10 list of funniest things I have heard on mmorpg.com

    -Currently looking forward to FFXIV

    -Currently playing EvE and Global Agenda

  • tkobotkobo Member Posts: 465

    FFA PvP is far too self destructive to ever be a good choice for a MMO.

    Heck ,just look at the real world examples.

  • siftifiedsiftified Member Posts: 258

    I disagree strongly that FFA PVP is too destructive.

    On AC it was purely CONSTRUCTIVE.

    For example:

    • Strong guilds and alliances were built
    • Dungeons, towns and lifestones were "owned" or frequented by certain guilds so most players knew where they were sfae and where they were not
    • FFA PVP with NO safe zones made it impossible for 500 players to set up a market stall in city and generate huge ammounts of lag
    • Oh and of course the PVP was very skill orientated, it was never all about the level of your character

    Anyway's my country doesn't have access to the Iraq FFA PVP server since we don't seem to condone gank squads.

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  • MavolenceMavolence Member UncommonPosts: 635
    OP, Ultima Online UO has the best ffa pvp i've ever played out of any mmorpg and i've played quite a few mmorpgs, AO,EVE,SWG,DAOC,SB,EQ,EQ2,Vanguard,WOW,Auto Assault, Planetside, Dark and Light, D&D,RFonline,FFXI and many many more. UO these days ever sine EA games took over is best found on player run servers, Hybrid on UO Gateway is amazing look us up there my name is Mavolence there.
  • AfkuhAfkuh Member Posts: 1
    You could always try Rappelz, its almost a carbon copy of L2 except its free. You can attack anyone not in citys although there are minor penaltys for pk'ing lower lvl people.
  • siftifiedsiftified Member Posts: 258

    Yeh UO is also tempting to return to

    And I might give Raapelz a look aswell!

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  • undiesusaundiesusa Member Posts: 116
    For true FFA the only place to look is Darkfall. Sorry.
  • OshrycOshryc Member UncommonPosts: 153

    Planetside will hold you over till AoC. http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=8255 watch this trailer

  • mutantmagnetmutantmagnet Member Posts: 274

    A decent number of people who frequent the official darkfall forums are playing VanguardSoh because it is the only new game offering FFAPVP and most of them enjoy it for what it's worth.

    Since you are interested in AoC you should go into their forums and ask if people are playing in FFAPVP mmos so you can have the opportunity of meeting them in game.

  • BorlucBorluc Member UncommonPosts: 262

    I think the failure of FFA pvp in games is due to the two extremes in gaming mentality.  Unfortunately, those two styles represent a very large portion of mmo players.

    First, you have the complete jerks who seem to relish in making people go through pain for the sheer enjoyment of watching it.  I have to say that some of these people probably would commit murder if they could get away with it;  of course, most realize they are too stupid to get away with it.  They promote hate, and that is simply wrong.  I'll state now that I don't consider pks who kill you, take your loot, and run off to look for another victim, a part of this group.  I've seen FAR worse, including virtual rape (not allowing someone to run off, thus simulating abusive control over a victim) where several sub-humans terrorized a rl girl with profane and disgusting language.  Fortunately, these people were banned.

    Second, you have the people who consider ANY type of competition in game to be indicative of a bloated e-peen.  What type of person is so scared of the natural world that they feel they need to hide from it when interacting with others in an online setting?  Can you imagine nutured state they exist in irl?  Sure, they might be functional human beings, but I really doubt they could stand up to a serious challenge.  No integrity.

    IMO the problem with mmos isn't the limiting factor of the games.  Its todays society and our twisted representation of ourselves online.

  • Death1942Death1942 Member UncommonPosts: 2,587
    if you think WoW is FFA pvp then you are seriously wrong.  anyway FFA PvP doesnt really exist because its a crappy idea.  if you are looking for a game where everyone (usually NOT on ur own team as most MMO's have teams) is fair game then good luck i am sure there are a few.

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  • ronan32ronan32 Member Posts: 1,418
    Originally posted by Jimmy_Scythe


    Well there's a lot of FFA PvP in Iraq right now. You may also be able to find some in most South African countries as well. If that's to far, just take a trip to Martin Luther King Dr in any major city. Scratch that, if you're white  you won't get the full FFA PvP experience on MLK DR. because the mods are pretty strict about PKing white people. Maybe you could just go to a GWAR, Slipknot, Cannibal Corpses, or Skinny Puppy concert and just jump in the mosh pit. It's basically the same thing.
    I think you mean north Africa.
  • ronan32ronan32 Member Posts: 1,418
    Originally posted by undiesusa

    For true FFA the only place to look is Darkfall. Sorry.
    lol darkfall isnt out , and probably never will come out..he wants a ffa pvp game now, not in 2020, you can not call darkfall a true ffa pvp game when you have'nt even played it.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,069
    Originally posted by siftified

    I disagree strongly that FFA PVP is too destructive.

    On AC it was purely CONSTRUCTIVE.

    For example:

    • Strong guilds and alliances were built - and if you weren't in one... you couldn't really enjoy the game...the ultimate in "forced grouping," solo players need not apply

    • Dungeons, towns and lifestones were "owned" or frequented by certain guilds so most players knew where they were sfae and where they were not - This doesn't sound like a good thing..I like to go where I want, when I want in a game, not avoid 1/2 the content because someone "owns" them

    • FFA PVP with NO safe zones made it impossible for 500 players to set up a market stall in city and generate huge ammounts of lag - I would think it would be impossible to set up a stall anywhere actually, except your own safe zone

    • Oh and of course the PVP was very skill orientated, it was never all about the level of your character - Yeah right, I'm sure the level 25 player takes out the level 155 all the time over there....

    Anyway's my country doesn't have access to the Iraq FFA PVP server since we don't seem to condone gank squads. "nods", lots of Carebears eh?

    UO/AC's FFA PVP survived and prospered because there were new and and the MMORPG landscape had few choices.. the first time someone came along (EQ) and offered players a gank free environment, they came in multitudes..and U/O and AC faded away under the tide of games that followed it. 



    I remember in DAOC they created two FFA PVP servers, and while I enjoyed them..most other people didn't and before long they shut down one and now the 2nd is a ghosttown.  I doubt Mythic will even bother with a FFA PvP server in WAR.



    I really wish Darkfall would come out, because it would be very interesting to see if a FFA PVP game really could thrive in todays gaming market.  Closest we're going to see any time soon is AOC and it will be interesting if people can handle the level of PVP pain that will be permitted in that game.


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  • Vion1xVion1x Member Posts: 188
    archlord have ffa pvp, very simular to L2, its mostly also the same grind and such, but well that is a game.
  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077
    Originally posted by undiesusa

    For true FFA the only place to look is Darkfall. Sorry.
    Darkfall doesn't exist.  It's not even in Beta... Sheez people... get a grip.  I'm watching it too but telling people it's an option for FFA PVP is just silly when it STILL isn't even in beta.

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