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K2 Network Vs IAH games.
Gameloading
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So, both companies have a version of Granado Espada. IAH's version is called Granado Espada, and K2 network's version is called Sword of the New World: Granado Espada. thats 5 extra words! 5 of them!
Both of them are releasing soon. Which company do you think is better?
So far, I have to go with K2 network.
K2 network is simply doing a better job then IAH.
First, the PR. K2 network is MUCH more involved with the community then IAH. just look at the post count of both community managers on both forums (You can take Hrin's post count of the old forum and combine it with the new forum). Melisande has a larger post count. You also have to take into consideration that K2 networks forums have only been open for a week or so, while IAH's forums have been open for much longer. The senior GM of SotNW:GE is also an active poster on the forum. None of the IAH staff members are really active forum posters.
IAH is also sloooooowww. Very, very, slow. It received the license for Granado Espada MANY months ago, and the website only opened a month or two ago, the forum didn't go live until closed beta started, and only for beta testers. the real forum only opened a few days ago. K2 network opened its website and forum much faster then IAH did (taken into consideration that K2 network received the license much later then IAH)
And speaking of beta, the time period between Closed beta and pre-open beta on the IAH version is 2 months! 2 months! thats rediculous.
Ofcourse we have to wait with our final judgement when both companies release the games. but so far, I'm more impressed by K2 network then IAH. I have to take back the bad things I said about K2 network. for me, it proves that the past of a company doesn't tell you everything.
Both of them are releasing soon. Which company do you think is better?
So far, I have to go with K2 network.
K2 network is simply doing a better job then IAH.
First, the PR. K2 network is MUCH more involved with the community then IAH. just look at the post count of both community managers on both forums (You can take Hrin's post count of the old forum and combine it with the new forum). Melisande has a larger post count. You also have to take into consideration that K2 networks forums have only been open for a week or so, while IAH's forums have been open for much longer. The senior GM of SotNW:GE is also an active poster on the forum. None of the IAH staff members are really active forum posters.
IAH is also sloooooowww. Very, very, slow. It received the license for Granado Espada MANY months ago, and the website only opened a month or two ago, the forum didn't go live until closed beta started, and only for beta testers. the real forum only opened a few days ago. K2 network opened its website and forum much faster then IAH did (taken into consideration that K2 network received the license much later then IAH)
And speaking of beta, the time period between Closed beta and pre-open beta on the IAH version is 2 months! 2 months! thats rediculous.
Ofcourse we have to wait with our final judgement when both companies release the games. but so far, I'm more impressed by K2 network then IAH. I have to take back the bad things I said about K2 network. for me, it proves that the past of a company doesn't tell you everything.
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Actually, I have played another one of K2N's games Global MU Online and they have daily events, and weekly events. You can always find a GM in game to talk to and they really help to break up the monotany of the game (its one of the main reasons I still play). And with GMO K2N serves every non-asian country except the Phillipines.
As for GL's post, I agree. I will probablly only play the K2 version because their servers will be here in the US. I had a lot of lag when I was playing on the IAH servers (not really their fault). Either way, K2 has always done right by me and it seems they are trying to work very hard to make this game a big success.
That and K2-Neume has the best yo mama jokes lol.
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After I posted I felt like an idiot... cuz I realized that was probably what you were talking about. lol.
I know K2 did one in person event in Brazil... but that was like 2 years ago lol. But we'll see. They seem to be really open with trying new things and responding to the community.
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it is you who causes the lag....
i live in belgium (and that isnt far from the UK) and i never experienced lag
IAH also bought a couple of very powerfull servers just for sgGE so its you who is lagging my friend
Although I mentioned this in the other thread IAH also got GE pre v2.0 and is making sure that its the version they go OB with while K2 got GE at the stage of v2.0 if i'm not mistaken. Its a HUGE upgrade to the game so I can understand why IAH is taking the extra time to get things right.
Not knocking you or SOTNW, I honestly hope both do very well.
Well... I had the same problem. So... it seems its a bigger deal than some are making it.
Either way. k2 servers will be in the US... so I will most likely play there. Continental Latency sucks balls!
About GM/Mod posting, that means absolutly NOTHING for a game that wasnt even in CB like SoTN. All companies do that to mantain the hype.
Comparing IAH with K2 in those terms is just a bad joke.
Actually K2 has said several times that they are using their own translations. I will find their posts.
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And yes it DOES mean something, IAH didn't even had a FORUM before the closed beta started and everyone had to go to fansite's, and even when closed beta started, it was restricted to closed beta players. everyone else was still restricted to fansites. Face it, K2 network is much more involved with their community then IAH is.
And yes it DOES mean something, IAH didn't even had a FORUM before the closed beta started and everyone had to go to fansite's, and even when closed beta started, it was restricted to closed beta players. everyone else was still restricted to fansites. Face it, K2 network is much more involved with their community then IAH is.
Yeah and lets not even bring up the amount of money and time K2 Network has been putting out to promote the game. Pretty much everywhere you look is Sword of the New World. One of my friends for Gamestop said it got the cover of the new GI. I haven't gotten mine yet, but if it did that is amazing feat and something that IAH could NEVER do.
All in all, I just do not feel that IAH is doing anything to get me to WANT to play their game. And to play their game I am going to have to deal with continental latency which means PvP issues... no thank you.
Also, K2's CM and Senior GM are VERY vocal and honest about what is happening, I don't get the same feeling from Hrin.
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I am not fully understanding the whole animosity towards IAH or K2. I think people like to play the whole 'Nintendo is better than Sony' thing and it is dumb, because the companies are not playing it and BOTH companies are only in it for the money. THAT you can guarantee... because if the company didin't want to make money... they would not exhist.
That said, after reading both websites and forums, I am pretty impressed with what K2 is doing. I think that presentation says a lot about the service and dedication you are planning to give me. I don't know if I will get this game, but I did go out an pre-order Sword of the New World so at least I will be able to check out their beta. Because it seems IAH is only interested in releasing a Korean Grinder while K2 Network wants to release a viable game (but... sometimes the best laid plans...)
We shall see, either way, I am not sure IAH will get me to play their version, I am not really a fan of F2P games... I think the poster above me made a lot of true statements. Especially the continental latency thing. It really annoyed me when FFXI did their suedo PvP Ballista thing and all the players in the US were just screwed. If there is ANY continental latency, then I am completely out.
GMs / Developers/ Mods mean N.O.T.H.I.N.G for a game that wasnt even in CB. As main example: Silkroad. Once in CB it was heaven of promises, now it is hell reality.
What is the purpose of a Closed Beta if not to restrict the acess to those who actually play it? I think u should see the meaning of CB if u stil dont know it.
And at a serious look, IAH truly dont want you (NA/EU player) to play their game, since it is mainly for SEA, not for the West countries like K2 is focusing. So dont expect IAHs version of GE to land on your market shop or online shop if u arent from SEA.
Now, lets wait if K2 really comes out as they are promising, since IAH at time held all promises they made, even the pobt is in the right timer.
Them you may say: YEah i was Right K2 owned; or YeAh, K2 fked me up!.
My personal opinion SoTNW as it is planned be K2 will be Archlord 2, a very good game with the wrong publisher.
A forum before beta is VERY important, especialy when dealing with a game that is still in development. that way the company can listen to its players, hear suggestions and is overal more prepared for the reaction of the community. it is absolutely VITAL that a company is in contact with its community when a game is still in development, and I'm actually shocked your trying to say otherwise.
I also don't see how K2 network is a bad publisher. they are advertising enough, are in contact with their community, I really don't see the problem.
And yes it DOES mean something, IAH didn't even had a FORUM before the closed beta started and everyone had to go to fansite's, and even when closed beta started, it was restricted to closed beta players. everyone else was still restricted to fansites. Face it, K2 network is much more involved with their community then IAH is.
Yeah and lets not even bring up the amount of money and time K2 Network has been putting out to promote the game. Pretty much everywhere you look is Sword of the New World. One of my friends for Gamestop said it got the cover of the new GI. I haven't gotten mine yet, but if it did that is amazing feat and something that IAH could NEVER do.
All in all, I just do not feel that IAH is doing anything to get me to WANT to play their game. And to play their game I am going to have to deal with continental latency which means PvP issues... no thank you.
Also, K2's CM and Senior GM are VERY vocal and honest about what is happening, I don't get the same feeling from Hrin.
does the k2 CM and senior GM have a direct contact with IMC? i doubt so if theyre implenting everything on their own
and btw, the cbt forums where only restricted to the cbters to keep it clean and dont have those whining ppl in to get a cb account
Most peoples problems with K2 is the fact they have destroyed 3 previous titles to which they got their hands on. They were horrible at fixing bugs, they never listened to players, and before each games release they always promised the heavens. K2 has yet to deliver on the goods they say they will, by all means I hope they do with SOTNW because I hate seeing a good title like GE get messed up badly.
Don't believe me, dig through their forums of their other games and you will find your evidence. Ask about K2's games in their specific forums
@Gameloading
Yes a forum is VERY important, however it has been a long standing standard in the industry that a CB forum has only been accessible by the CB Testers, MANY in fact can only even be seen by CB Testers yet alone read.
Now after CB ended they were prompt to put up a forum where everyone could join in on discussion before POB begins, so that old players can still discuss and post suggestions. Also new players can mix in and make their own side bar suggestions with the actual CB Testers there to comment alongside the GMs and Devs. Honestly what more can you ask from in a community.
I'm not saying they are a horrible company or that they will never make a good game. Just that they are FAR from flawless and make just as many community relations mistakes as anyone else if not more.
One last thing, this is from the other thread.
"our game client will not be seen in any other regions, as we are making our own improvements and adding unique features to the game, such as improved character customization, a more intuitive control system, improved game balance, a more involved storyline, and fully localized text and VO (just to name a few of our improvements). In addition, we will have access to all future features put into the Korean client of the game and will be working very closely with the Development team in order to determine which features would be most beneficial to add to our client version."
What improvements are they making to the control system, what changes to game balance, how are they making the story more involved? I mean saying all this nifty stuff is good and well, but what are the hard details. If there aren't any then all this is more then subject to being vapor.
Sure better character customization is nice, though it sounds like they are taking the outfits from the mall and just putting them in as default. sGE will have text in full english and nothing says they won't do VO as well wether it be at release or in time, and yes nothing says they will either.
And yes it DOES mean something, IAH didn't even had a FORUM before the closed beta started and everyone had to go to fansite's, and even when closed beta started, it was restricted to closed beta players. everyone else was still restricted to fansites. Face it, K2 network is much more involved with their community then IAH is.
Yeah and lets not even bring up the amount of money and time K2 Network has been putting out to promote the game. Pretty much everywhere you look is Sword of the New World. One of my friends for Gamestop said it got the cover of the new GI. I haven't gotten mine yet, but if it did that is amazing feat and something that IAH could NEVER do.
All in all, I just do not feel that IAH is doing anything to get me to WANT to play their game. And to play their game I am going to have to deal with continental latency which means PvP issues... no thank you.
Also, K2's CM and Senior GM are VERY vocal and honest about what is happening, I don't get the same feeling from Hrin.
does the k2 CM and senior GM have a direct contact with IMC? i doubt so if theyre implenting everything on their own
and btw, the cbt forums where only restricted to the cbters to keep it clean and dont have those whining ppl in to get a cb account
Actually K2 has said numerous times that the changes being made are being done by IMC not K2. They are working together to make the final product. The never said anything about making changes on their own. As for your other post, you speak as if you don't know what you are talking about. K2 Network does not develop any of the titles that they own. So they cannot fix bugs, or update the client. ALL of that has to be done by the developer.
I don't really play their other game but I know for a fact there are a lot of happy players in GMO and War Rock. Please do some research before talking straight out of your bum.
thanks!
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Actually K2 has said numerous times that the changes being made are being done by IMC not K2. They are working together to make the final product. The never said anything about making changes on their own.
Thanks for the correction, not strongly following Sword news so I could only work from what is on these exact forums and what Gameloading has said.
As for your other post, you speak as if you don't know what you are talking about. K2 Network does not develop any of the titles that they own. So they cannot fix bugs, or update the client. ALL of that has to be done by the developer.
Yes, but when they sign the deal to get it all going K2 has the option to setup standards. How they expect the final product to look, what new ideas they want to look into, bugs they hope to see fixed, etc. Now I am not saying they can "demand" these things. I'm saying they can have talks and try to get some if not most of these things.If K2 when they signed the deal didn't at least try to set a standard as to if they wanted bug fixes or new ideas to be priority, then that speaks of icky scary things.
I don't really play their other game but I know for a fact there are a lot of happy players in GMO and War Rock. Please do some research before talking straight out of your bum.
And I know for a fact i've read plenty of threads of people who hate both those games, and have tons of distrust towards anything K2 publishes. You didn't post any convincing links yourself so please don't jump to conclusions that I pulled it out of a hat.
Second, i have nothing against K2 Network, but i have against some @sses who want to compare between a publisher which is still at publish/translate game (like K2) and a publisher which already TRANSLATED, MADE CLOSED BETA and is MAINTAINING the chrono for pOBT (like IAH).
Last: time will say which is better. I hope they do both a great job, even with K2 reputation.