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The hate and anger on this forum is terrible.
Mmoseaotter
Member Posts: 163
Guys calm down with the anger and hate, loosing venom is not cool.
SOE will be purchasing VG soon and I think they will honestly turn the thing around. SOE is good about not letting MMMORPGs go and i don't think they will let this one go so easily. I understand your mad about what happened but it wont help if ya throw anger and hate around, it will just make people feel bad.
I say lets wait awhile and not be so harsh, remember that some fans still enjoy the game.
SOE will be purchasing VG soon and I think they will honestly turn the thing around. SOE is good about not letting MMMORPGs go and i don't think they will let this one go so easily. I understand your mad about what happened but it wont help if ya throw anger and hate around, it will just make people feel bad.
I say lets wait awhile and not be so harsh, remember that some fans still enjoy the game.
Be cool to people, and try and stay cool that way you never have to regret making someone feel bad. Don't take what ya got granted because some people never get to feel happy. We get to play these great MMOs and surf a good site. Be thankful for what ya got and next time ya feel down imagine a fat sea otter waddling with a pillow and a night cap. Bam! smiles!
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If you mean "not cancelling them outright but milking them for every dime and doing nothing to fix them" then I'm with ya. I played SWG and MxO. Been there.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
That got me laughing too. I also played MXO and SWG.
SOE should have a new theme song.
When a problem comes along.
You must milk it.
Before the cream sits out too long.
You must milk it.
When something's going wrong.
You must milk it.
now milk it.
into shape.
shape it up.
get straight.
go forward.
move ahead.
try to detect it.
it's not too late.
to milk it.
milk it good.
When a good time turns around.
You must milk it.
You will never live it down.
Unless you milk it.
No one gets their way.
Until they milk it.
I say milk it.
Milk it good.
And some of us just like to watch.
That got me laughing too. I also played MXO and SWG.
SOE should have a new theme song.
When a problem comes along.
Did anyone else imagine MC Hammer singing that?You must milk it.
Before the cream sits out too long.
You must milk it.
When something's going wrong.
You must milk it.
now milk it.
into shape.
shape it up.
get straight.
go forward.
move ahead.
try to detect it.
it's not too late.
to milk it.
milk it good.
When a good time turns around.
You must milk it.
You will never live it down.
Unless you milk it.
No one gets their way.
Until they milk it.
I say milk it.
Milk it good.
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No, I imagined Devo singing it.
SOE should have a new theme song.
When a problem comes along.
You must milk it.
Before the cream sits out too long.
You must milk it.
When something's going wrong.
You must milk it.
now milk it.
into shape.
shape it up.
get straight.
go forward.
move ahead.
try to detect it.
it's not too late.
to milk it.
milk it good.
When a good time turns around.
You must milk it.
You will never live it down.
Unless you milk it.
No one gets their way.
Until they milk it.
I say milk it.
Milk it good.
Did anyone else imagine MC Hammer singing that?
No, I imagined Devo singing it.
lol, man that takes me back.
MC Hammer!! WTF!!!
Understand that in the end I am a sea otter, and when you hate on a sea otters they cry. Ever seen a sea otter cry? Why be mean to me then?
Be cool to people, and try and stay cool that way you never have to regret making someone feel bad. Don't take what ya got granted because some people never get to feel happy. We get to play these great MMOs and surf a good site. Be thankful for what ya got and next time ya feel down imagine a fat sea otter waddling with a pillow and a night cap. Bam! smiles!
Be cool to people, and try and stay cool that way you never have to regret making someone feel bad. Don't take what ya got granted because some people never get to feel happy. We get to play these great MMOs and surf a good site. Be thankful for what ya got and next time ya feel down imagine a fat sea otter waddling with a pillow and a night cap. Bam! smiles!
Because there is no statute of limitations for murder?
Okay, I kid, I swear.
EQ2 has ever recovered from its launch, SWG has had many revamps that have backfired, once SOE took full control of EQ its population has steadily decreased, Planetside was never popular and is a ghost town. I'm not even going to mention that crap game MxO, as no one on Earth could have saved it.
SOE has no clue what gamers want. They just need to shut down, and continue to make tvs or whatever they do. Even their computers they make are low quality and high-priced.
They've got the finances, the manpower, the muscle, and the name to make some amazing products. It's the fact that they don't understand who their target audience is, or what that audience wants that kills them.
Hell, they should hire a few folks from this website to help them understand what makes a game fun. That'd be a great start for SOE.
Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...
On the original topic... I think it started back in closed beta. The game was clearly in trouble, and the turnover in beta testers was very high. As a result, a lot of the testers at any given time were pretty new. They'd post suggestions about less grind, more inventive scenery, shorter travel times, less onerous corpse runs, adjustable night lighting, ways for new players in distant starting areas to assemble, and they'd mention missing features, chunking deaths, faction grinding, a lack of fun, and above all, hitching. They also suggested that the vision of the game was going to limit sales.
Then the storm would descend. They'd be told with false pity that this game was not for them, they should go elsewhere. (Brilliant business strategy to allow this to continue!
) They'd be told that they were incompetent wusses who were incapable of understanding the game's glories. And quite a bit worse. And it was clear that the devs were not listening to those who suggested a revision of The Vision. With all the turn over in beta and early release, the Vanbois made a lot of enemies. A LOT. Now that the game has lost many subscribers for the reasons given above, it's only human to say "tolja so" and revenge can be so sweet.
Brad McQuaid in his last two major posts also mentioned that they'd be using viral marketing, which of course automatically puts any pro-VG posts under suspicion. And he also took a couple of what another poster called "passive-aggressive swipes" at WoW and LotRO, just to stir the pot a bit.
It's hard to think of much more that could have been done to arouse anti-VG emotions...
What game has SOE ever turned around to gain subscribers?
actually EQ showed a steady climb in subscriptions since SOE took over (around the release of Luclin expansion i think)
the subscriber base didnt start to decline until 2002-2003 when the game started showing its age and people started filtering to games that were better and/or more advanced.
personally I dont have any issues with sony at all. played EQ, EQ2, Planetside, MxO (Jesus himself couldn't save that game) etc. For the most part, sony does an awsome job with patches/fixes game updates and the like. they always keep their subscribers well informed with whats going on as far as i have seen.
im sure others have their own opinions...just stating my own.
Well.... Yeah....
The ocean is wet. Forests are full of trees. And so on.
The game engenders a lot of hate... It's just that bad. Even the people playing it are really only in it waiting for something better. Maybe a new game on the horizon, or maybe the realization of the games alleged "potential". What bothers a lot of people is the fact that it's potential will probably go unrealized, under the loving hand of bumbling, near incompetent developers and an arrogant, unscrupulous publisher.
That's what does it for me anyway.
-----Zero Punctuation Eve Online Review-----
They have us all on /ignore
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Eh, I'd work for SOE in a design capacity. My C++ is probably too sloppy to actually do much coding. Then again, it is SOE, that may be a bonus! /rimshot
Unless is was the Austin shop. My sources tell me that place is soul crushingly bad to work at. Chinese prison labor camps would be preferable, and I might even run into Bruce Wayne.
Have you seen Smed's blog lately, Cym? http://blog.station.sony.com/
All he cares about is RMT's and what a BILLION dollar industry it could be and blah, blah, blah. He's not interested in gamers. He's interested in money. That's why EQ2 flopped and now they're actually trying to make it Everquest II instead of whatever the hell that was I bought way back when.
Sorry, but after I've already done the grind, got rid of my stuff and left a game, there's really no reason to go back and chance another disaster like they had going with DoF (excuse for a revamp) expansion. I mean I have choices now, so I don't have to settle anymore. That's what they don't understand. They actually thought we LOVED their style. They never stopped to think it was only because that's all there was at the time.
And no offense, but every time SOE does wind up hiring a known gamer, the gamer turns into some zombie-fied reincarnation of them. I think they put something in the water cooler.. .I dunno.
With Vanguard, they also hired experienced gamers and although they didn't slip a mickey in the water, they didn't bother to listen to a word they told them at ALL. What makes you think they'd ever listen to the ones here?
As soon As Smedley stops thinking about money he's out of a job. I almost certian it's his job to make SoE money. That's what a president of a company does.
Edit: To funny coldmeat.
I don't know what the hell it is, or what it does, but looking at it makes me feel all warm and tingly.