SOE needs to hire some people to sit down with the suits and enlighten them.
They've got the finances, the manpower, the muscle, and the name to make some amazing products. It's the fact that they don't understand who their target audience is, or what that audience wants that kills them.
Hell, they should hire a few folks from this website to help them understand what makes a game fun. That'd be a great start for SOE.
All he cares about is RMT's and what a BILLION dollar industry it could be and blah, blah, blah. He's not interested in gamers. He's interested in money. That's why EQ2 flopped and now they're actually trying to make it Everquest II instead of whatever the hell that was I bought way back when.
Sorry, but after I've already done the grind, got rid of my stuff and left a game, there's really no reason to go back and chance another disaster like they had going with DoF (excuse for a revamp) expansion. I mean I have choices now, so I don't have to settle anymore. That's what they don't understand. They actually thought we LOVED their style. They never stopped to think it was only because that's all there was at the time.
And no offense, but every time SOE does wind up hiring a known gamer, the gamer turns into some zombie-fied reincarnation of them. I think they put something in the water cooler.. .I dunno.
With Vanguard, they also hired experienced gamers and although they didn't slip a mickey in the water, they didn't bother to listen to a word they told them at ALL. What makes you think they'd ever listen to the ones here?
The promise and allure of increased capital and revenue for them. "Listen to my ideas, I'll make you more money than you ever dreamed possible"
Speak their language; sweet sweet greed.
Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...
As soon As Smedley stops thinking about money he's out of a job. I almost certian it's his job to make SoE money. That's what a president of a company does. Edit: To funny coldmeat.
Yeah but it's slave labor he has now. You grind and get the goods to sell. He takes 10% off the top for doing nothing. That's what Station Exchange is all about.
What he really wants is to just be able to sell goods upfront. That gives him 100% profit for just having the virtual items to sell. That's his idea of getting rid of the gold farmers, or how he's selling the idea anyway. But it's actually him becoming one himself. Only his version is where he has total control and total profit. It's like printing free money. I'm not a gold reseller fan, but this is no way to rectify the situation either.
There's a reason why other companies maintain an anti-cheat program and still top the charts. Because they build great games and worry about their integrity. Money comes as a result of that, not Smedley's type of brainstorming. I think it's clear how he thinks just by reading his blog thoughts.
As soon As Smedley stops thinking about money he's out of a job. I almost certian it's his job to make SoE money. That's what a president of a company does.
Edit: To funny coldmeat.
I don't know what the hell it is, or what it does, but looking at it makes me feel all warm and tingly.
Something so sexy about that picture.
I wouldn't call it greed. it's the nature of the role he plays at SoE. His job is first and foremost to make money; if he's not making money then he's a failure as President of SoE.
MMORPG.com is making someone money. There's a company behind this site, and someones in charge of that company and responcible for making the site make money. It's no dif. then what Smedley has to do. So calling it greed really isn't fair. He isn't working for a non-profit group.
you cant blame people for their hate and anger when they are wronged by other people. not a good feeling to pay $50 of your hard earned cash to find out a game is total bullshit the entire time. no one really likes that feeling. if you dont mind paying retail prices for a beta game, hey, go nuts have fun, i won't stop ya, but dont undermind peoples feelings from being violated by a corporation.
devs messed up and now they are paying for it. its a beta flat out, there is no changing that fact. if you feel like paying for it, do so, but other people have certain standards and as they should. SIGIL and VSOH is going to be a major example for future game companies on what not to do.
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As soon As Smedley stops thinking about money he's out of a job. I almost certian it's his job to make SoE money. That's what a president of a company does. Edit: To funny coldmeat.
Yeah but it's slave labor he has now. You grind and get the goods to sell. He takes 10% off the top for doing nothing. That's what Station Exchange is all about.
What he really wants is to just be able to sell goods upfront. That gives him 100% profit for just having the virtual items to sell. That's his idea of getting rid of the gold farmers, or how he's selling the idea anyway. But it's actually him becoming one himself. Only his version is where he has total control and total profit. It's like printing free money. I'm not a gold reseller fan, but this is no way to rectify the situation either.
There's a reason why other companies maintain an anti-cheat program and still top the charts. Because they build great games and worry about their integrity. Money comes as a result of that, not Smedley's type of brainstorming. I think it's clear how he thinks just by reading his blog thoughts.
He's talking about offering something a LOT of other companies are already doing. Item exchange is nothing new. Richard Garriot even commented on it in the G4 interview and hinted that it's going to become the norm for online games as companies battle to keep 3rd party companies from profiting off of thier work.
It's alos a business model that's been used in other countries for quite some time. Remember, the US still isn't a very big market for MMO's, and places like Korea where it's become the so prevelent, these payment models are rather normal.
Even guild wars does it.
Take a look at Eve. They've been tinkering with a similliar payment model for a bit now with the ISK for GTC. Allowing players to sell game time cards that they purchase from CCP for in game currency.
Anti-cheat programs don't work. At least not in MMO's, and certianly not to prevent item sales. L2 has, or had, an anti-cheat program and anyone familliar with the game knows it doesn't do any good as far as gold farming goes. Even Blizzards anti-cheat doesn't stop gold selling, or people from cheating.
Guys calm down with the anger and hate, loosing venom is not cool.
SOE will be purchasing VG soon and I think they will honestly turn the thing around. SOE is good about not letting MMMORPGs go and i don't think they will let this one go so easily. I understand your mad about what happened but it wont help if ya throw anger and hate around, it will just make people feel bad.
I say lets wait awhile and not be so harsh, remember that some fans still enjoy the game.
I could not agree more.
Anytime a thread is started about a SOE game it will be hijacked by anyone who hates SOE.There is no possible way to have an intelligent logical conversation with these people.
It does not matter to them if people actually play the game and enjoy it.These haters cant stand the fact that a person could actually enjoy a game made by a company they wish would go away.
Some of these same people come from SWG and actually feel entitled to a game from almost 4 years ago that no longer exists.Some of them repeatedly predict the end of SWG 2 years after the last revamp.Yet it is still going and getting better by the month.
When it comes to VG they want it to fail miserably.Instead of giving it a fair shot that it could get better they would rather it just fail.They could care less if you actually enjoy the game they will do the following things in response:
1.Point out that "Smedley" is the worse person in the world.
2.If you tell them that SOE is a leading developer of online gaming and actually helped it become popular they will respond with:"SWG is doomed and that will be the nail in the coffin for SOE they deserve it after everything they have done to players!!"
3.EQ is still around and still going strong with new content and expansions:"yeah but who plays that anymore?!?!"
4.EQ2 players say the game is better now than it was when it launched:"The graphics look horrible,they are so plastic looking!!!"
5.With the SOE pass you can play a few games that look pretty decent:"No way am i going to give SOE any of my cash"
There is no reasoning with the SOE haters.What i dont understand is that if i generally hate something i dont even think about it and i stay away from it as well.These people are just insane with hatred,so anytime you ask them to play nice concerning SOE just forget about it.
Most every thread on mmorpg.com that mentions a SOE game has probably been hijacked by the haters.Dont ever think that you will ever have a thread without them coming in to it.If you want an answer about a SOE game i suggest you try the official forums for that game or another site besides this 1.
As soon As Smedley stops thinking about money he's out of a job. I almost certian it's his job to make SoE money. That's what a president of a company does. Edit: To funny coldmeat.
Yeah but it's slave labor he has now. You grind and get the goods to sell. He takes 10% off the top for doing nothing. That's what Station Exchange is all about.
What he really wants is to just be able to sell goods upfront. That gives him 100% profit for just having the virtual items to sell. That's his idea of getting rid of the gold farmers, or how he's selling the idea anyway. But it's actually him becoming one himself. Only his version is where he has total control and total profit. It's like printing free money. I'm not a gold reseller fan, but this is no way to rectify the situation either.
There's a reason why other companies maintain an anti-cheat program and still top the charts. Because they build great games and worry about their integrity. Money comes as a result of that, not Smedley's type of brainstorming. I think it's clear how he thinks just by reading his blog thoughts.
He's talking about offering something a LOT of other companies are already doing. Item exchange is nothing new. Richard Garriot even commented on it in the G4 interview and hinted that it's going to become the norm for online games as companies battle to keep 3rd party companies from profiting off of thier work.
It's alos a business model that's been used in other countries for quite some time. Remember, the US still isn't a very big market for MMO's, and places like Korea where it's become the so prevelent, these payment models are rather normal.
Even guild wars does it.
Take a look at Eve. They've been tinkering with a similliar payment model for a bit now with the ISK for GTC. Allowing players to sell game time cards that they purchase from CCP for in game currency.
Anti-cheat programs don't work. At least not in MMO's, and certianly not to prevent item sales. L2 has, or had, an anti-cheat program and anyone familliar with the game knows it doesn't do any good as far as gold farming goes. Even Blizzards anti-cheat doesn't stop gold selling, or people from cheating.
Maybe he should start worrying about making great games first, then worry about how to be a billionaire, second?
My whole point was, he's not doing great anymore because his priorities are screwed up and his blog just about proves it.
Even if SOE goes full-blown RMT-style games, that won't stop outside forces from trying to gain a substantial profit. Case in point is stealing passwords to take what you own. RMT's won't solve that. Instead of Smedley addressing the problem by throwing technology at stopping the cause of the problem, he's just taking a "can't beat 'em, join 'em" stance. But it won't solve the problem, neither will it add integrity to anything he creates.
And just because G4 had an interview that RMT's are the wave of the future, doesn't make it so, doesn't prove it's successful and certainly doesn't prove most gamers want to play under those conditions. I know I won't pick a game that does over a game that doesn't. If it were that simple, Blizzard would have caved in a long time ago. Sigil/Vanguard is also against it. Time will tell if they change that stance under SOE.
As soon As Smedley stops thinking about money he's out of a job. I almost certian it's his job to make SoE money. That's what a president of a company does. Edit: To funny coldmeat.
Yeah but it's slave labor he has now. You grind and get the goods to sell. He takes 10% off the top for doing nothing. That's what Station Exchange is all about.
What he really wants is to just be able to sell goods upfront. That gives him 100% profit for just having the virtual items to sell. That's his idea of getting rid of the gold farmers, or how he's selling the idea anyway. But it's actually him becoming one himself. Only his version is where he has total control and total profit. It's like printing free money. I'm not a gold reseller fan, but this is no way to rectify the situation either.
There's a reason why other companies maintain an anti-cheat program and still top the charts. Because they build great games and worry about their integrity. Money comes as a result of that, not Smedley's type of brainstorming. I think it's clear how he thinks just by reading his blog thoughts.
He's talking about offering something a LOT of other companies are already doing. Item exchange is nothing new. Richard Garriot even commented on it in the G4 interview and hinted that it's going to become the norm for online games as companies battle to keep 3rd party companies from profiting off of thier work.
It's alos a business model that's been used in other countries for quite some time. Remember, the US still isn't a very big market for MMO's, and places like Korea where it's become the so prevelent, these payment models are rather normal.
Even guild wars does it.
Take a look at Eve. They've been tinkering with a similliar payment model for a bit now with the ISK for GTC. Allowing players to sell game time cards that they purchase from CCP for in game currency.
Anti-cheat programs don't work. At least not in MMO's, and certianly not to prevent item sales. L2 has, or had, an anti-cheat program and anyone familliar with the game knows it doesn't do any good as far as gold farming goes. Even Blizzards anti-cheat doesn't stop gold selling, or people from cheating.
Maybe he should start worrying about making great games first, then worry about how to be a billionaire, second?
My whole point was, he's not doing great anymore because his priorities are screwed up and his blog just about proves it.
Even if SOE goes full-blown RMT-style games, that won't stop outside forces from trying to gain a substantial profit. Case in point is stealing passwords to take what you own. RMT's won't solve that. Instead of Smedley addressing the problem by throwing technology at stopping the cause of the problem, he's just taking a "can't beat 'em, join 'em" stance. But it won't solve the problem, neither will it add integrity to anything he creates.
And just because G4 had an interview that RMT's are the wave of the future, doesn't make it so, doesn't prove it's successful and certainly doesn't prove most gamers want to play under those conditions. I know I won't pick a game that does over a game that doesn't. If it were that simple, Blizzard would have caved in a long time ago. Sigil/Vanguard is also against it. Time will tell if they change that stance under SOE.
It was just an interview with Richard Garriot (?), the guy that's making Tabula Rasa. Not about the RMT system. Personally I'm neither for, nor against a game company using alternate payment methods, however, if a game I pay a monthly fee decides that they will start offering item sales I will quit that game.
My fear is that one day someone will put out a great MMO, charge a monthly fee, and offer item sales; that'll suck. Way off topic though.
Guys calm down with the anger and hate, loosing venom is not cool.
SOE will be purchasing VG soon and I think they will honestly turn the thing around. SOE is good about not letting MMMORPGs go and i don't think they will let this one go so easily. I understand your mad about what happened but it wont help if ya throw anger and hate around, it will just make people feel bad.
I say lets wait awhile and not be so harsh, remember that some fans still enjoy the game.
I could not agree more.
Anytime a thread is started about a SOE game it will be hijacked by anyone who hates SOE.There is no possible way to have an intelligent logical conversation with these people.
It does not matter to them if people actually play the game and enjoy it.These haters cant stand the fact that a person could actually enjoy a game made by a company they wish would go away.
Some of these same people come from SWG and actually feel entitled to a game from almost 4 years ago that no longer exists.Some of them repeatedly predict the end of SWG 2 years after the last revamp.Yet it is still going and getting better by the month.
When it comes to VG they want it to fail miserably.Instead of giving it a fair shot that it could get better they would rather it just fail.They could care less if you actually enjoy the game they will do the following things in response:
1.Point out that "Smedley" is the worse person in the world.
2.If you tell them that SOE is a leading developer of online gaming and actually helped it become popular they will respond with:"SWG is doomed and that will be the nail in the coffin for SOE they deserve it after everything they have done to players!!"
3.EQ is still around and still going strong with new content and expansions:"yeah but who plays that anymore?!?!"
4.EQ2 players say the game is better now than it was when it launched:"The graphics look horrible,they are so plastic looking!!!"
5.With the SOE pass you can play a few games that look pretty decent:"No way am i going to give SOE any of my cash"
There is no reasoning with the SOE haters.What i dont understand is that if i generally hate something i dont even think about it and i stay away from it as well.These people are just insane with hatred,so anytime you ask them to play nice concerning SOE just forget about it.
Most every thread on mmorpg.com that mentions a SOE game has probably been hijacked by the haters.Dont ever think that you will ever have a thread without them coming in to it.If you want an answer about a SOE game i suggest you try the official forums for that game or another site besides this 1.
I think you're nuts.
I hate vegetables and spend as much time as I can on vegetarian and vegan sites letting them people know how much better I am, and lima beans suck.
Guys calm down with the anger and hate, loosing venom is not cool.
SOE will be purchasing VG soon and I think they will honestly turn the thing around. SOE is good about not letting MMMORPGs go and i don't think they will let this one go so easily. I understand your mad about what happened but it wont help if ya throw anger and hate around, it will just make people feel bad.
I say lets wait awhile and not be so harsh, remember that some fans still enjoy the game.
I could not agree more.
Anytime a thread is started about a SOE game it will be hijacked by anyone who hates SOE.There is no possible way to have an intelligent logical conversation with these people.
It does not matter to them if people actually play the game and enjoy it.These haters cant stand the fact that a person could actually enjoy a game made by a company they wish would go away.
Some of these same people come from SWG and actually feel entitled to a game from almost 4 years ago that no longer exists.Some of them repeatedly predict the end of SWG 2 years after the last revamp.Yet it is still going and getting better by the month.
When it comes to VG they want it to fail miserably.Instead of giving it a fair shot that it could get better they would rather it just fail.They could care less if you actually enjoy the game they will do the following things in response:
1.Point out that "Smedley" is the worse person in the world.
2.If you tell them that SOE is a leading developer of online gaming and actually helped it become popular they will respond with:"SWG is doomed and that will be the nail in the coffin for SOE they deserve it after everything they have done to players!!"
3.EQ is still around and still going strong with new content and expansions:"yeah but who plays that anymore?!?!"
4.EQ2 players say the game is better now than it was when it launched:"The graphics look horrible,they are so plastic looking!!!"
5.With the SOE pass you can play a few games that look pretty decent:"No way am i going to give SOE any of my cash"
There is no reasoning with the SOE haters.What i dont understand is that if i generally hate something i dont even think about it and i stay away from it as well.These people are just insane with hatred,so anytime you ask them to play nice concerning SOE just forget about it.
Most every thread on mmorpg.com that mentions a SOE game has probably been hijacked by the haters.Dont ever think that you will ever have a thread without them coming in to it.If you want an answer about a SOE game i suggest you try the official forums for that game or another site besides this 1.
I think you're nuts.
I hate vegetables and spend as much time as I can on vegetarian and vegan sites letting them people know how much better I am, and lima beans suck.
I take offense sir!!
I happen to love nuts!!I just dont like the ones grown and picked by Planters!!!
My reasons are as follows:
1.Throughout the years they have changed the mascot several times without consulting its customer base.
2.The socalled "mixed nuts" have too many variety in them.Why would i like to have so many choices for a single price!!!
3.2 words:honey roasted.(need i say more)
4.The little snack packs in stores are too small to be called a "snack" yet not big enough to satisfy.
5.The peanuts given to us for free on airplanes are insultingly small!!
As soon As Smedley stops thinking about money he's out of a job. I almost certian it's his job to make SoE money. That's what a president of a company does. Edit: To funny coldmeat.
Then explain how he is still employed?
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Originally posted by Shayde Originally posted by fariic1 As soon As Smedley stops thinking about money he's out of a job. I almost certian it's his job to make SoE money. That's what a president of a company does. Edit: To funny coldmeat.
Then explain how he is still employed?
Yeah, I just wanted to post the picture again. Tingly! Tingly I tells you!!
I have not used MMORPG for a very long time. EDIT: very long time is relative, as I used to visit this section on a regular and daily basis. It is ironic that I began to use MMORPG after I was banned on another site for criticism of Vanguard that was directed toward a Moderator.
However, when the most willful and wanton trollers and flamers from other boards post here regularly, that is a pretty clear indication of what has become of this section. I hardly visit anymore; it is not worth the time. I think that is unfortunate. The community is composed of people that are reasonable that visit MMORPG for reliable information. Instead, what we have here is quite contrary. It does not even really bother me anymore, but I think it is nevertheless an unfortunate situation.
As soon As Smedley stops thinking about money he's out of a job. I almost certian it's his job to make SoE money. That's what a president of a company does.
Edit: To funny coldmeat.
Then explain how he is still employed?
Yeah, I just wanted to post the picture again. Tingly! Tingly I tells you!!
Guys calm down with the anger and hate, loosing venom is not cool.
SOE will be purchasing VG soon and I think they will honestly turn the thing around. SOE is good about not letting MMMORPGs go and i don't think they will let this one go so easily. I understand your mad about what happened but it wont help if ya throw anger and hate around, it will just make people feel bad.
I say lets wait awhile and not be so harsh, remember that some fans still enjoy the game.
had me scared there a while. thought healz4u died and left this forum. i see you are back in fine form.
I have not used MMORPG for a very long time. EDIT: very long time is relative, as I used to visit this section on a regular and daily basis. It is ironic that I began to use MMORPG after I was banned on another site for criticism of Vanguard that was directed toward a Moderator.
However, when the most willful and wanton trollers and flamers from other boards post here regularly, that is a pretty clear indication of what has become of this section. I hardly visit anymore; it is not worth the time. I think that is unfortunate. The community is composed of people that are reasonable that visit MMORPG for reliable information. Instead, what we have here is quite contrary. It does not even really bother me anymore, but I think it is nevertheless an unfortunate situation.
ahhhhh how many mmorpg.com accounts does one need to convince people a BS game is gold?
The fact that "some" fans enjoy the game is not indicative of it being a quality title. Every game ever made, down to the most obscure flash game to ones in the $2 bin, have someone who likes them.
When you have a $30 million budget, 6 years of development time, the backing of two industry heavyweights (Microsoft and then SOE), one of the longest betas in history, experienced developers who helped create the genre as we know it, a powerful and experienced publicist, 100,000+ devotees on your pre-release boards, loyal followings of fans from your previous game, and the opportunity to bring in subscriptions from a multiple subscription program, you ought to be able to do a darn sight better than say "well, somebody likes it." You certainly ought not to be in negotiations to sell the game off to someone else 4 months after release and your CEO making repeated public apology letters ceding the many, many problems with the game and also saying that some or all of the Sigil development team may or may not have jobs going forward. I don't consider myself a "hater " for recognizing and attesting to the obvious and the undeniable fact that this game is a huge flop.
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Guys calm down with the anger and hate, loosing venom is not cool.
SOE will be purchasing VG soon and I think they will honestly turn the thing around. SOE is good about not letting MMMORPGs go and i don't think they will let this one go so easily. I understand your mad about what happened but it wont help if ya throw anger and hate around, it will just make people feel bad.
I say lets wait awhile and not be so harsh, remember that some fans still enjoy the game.
I could not agree more.
Anytime a thread is started about a SOE game it will be hijacked by anyone who hates SOE.There is no possible way to have an intelligent logical conversation with these people.
It does not matter to them if people actually play the game and enjoy it.These haters cant stand the fact that a person could actually enjoy a game made by a company they wish would go away.
Some of these same people come from SWG and actually feel entitled to a game from almost 4 years ago that no longer exists.Some of them repeatedly predict the end of SWG 2 years after the last revamp.Yet it is still going and getting better by the month.
When it comes to VG they want it to fail miserably.Instead of giving it a fair shot that it could get better they would rather it just fail.They could care less if you actually enjoy the game they will do the following things in response:
1.Point out that "Smedley" is the worse person in the world.
2.If you tell them that SOE is a leading developer of online gaming and actually helped it become popular they will respond with:"SWG is doomed and that will be the nail in the coffin for SOE they deserve it after everything they have done to players!!"
3.EQ is still around and still going strong with new content and expansions:"yeah but who plays that anymore?!?!"
4.EQ2 players say the game is better now than it was when it launched:"The graphics look horrible,they are so plastic looking!!!"
5.With the SOE pass you can play a few games that look pretty decent:"No way am i going to give SOE any of my cash"
There is no reasoning with the SOE haters.What i dont understand is that if i generally hate something i dont even think about it and i stay away from it as well.These people are just insane with hatred,so anytime you ask them to play nice concerning SOE just forget about it.
Most every thread on mmorpg.com that mentions a SOE game has probably been hijacked by the haters.Dont ever think that you will ever have a thread without them coming in to it.If you want an answer about a SOE game i suggest you try the official forums for that game or another site besides this 1.
No other company has had as big of IPs and as many IPs under their belt in the MMoRPG field. EQI for many took a wrong turn at Luclin, SWG never did get it's space-legs, EQII should've broke a million subscribers but they forgot to put anything EQy in it, and I won't even mention Vanguard, Planetside and Matrix Online. That is quite alot of opportunities to whizz all over some people's favorite hobby. I think it's understandable why SOE is the devil of the MMORPG world. You can go to any site and say "SOE sux" and get 100 people to agree with you. Don't see that going away anytime soon, although I will give props towards the Kunark expansion for EQII. Best idea I've seen them do in a long time and their is a low roar about that game now.
I just hope that SOE doesn't do to this game what it did to the game I liked, SWG, and totally change it "because of lowering sub rates". Beacuse the game you like will be dumbed down , totally changed and only have half the the options left to you. This is not hate tword SOE just a fact of what happened( I still say they should have made the NGE into a SWG2)
If it had not been for SOE Planet Side would have been dead years ago, so would EQ, so would many games that people play. When you say they kill someones hobby I think they have done the opposite. EQ2 is turning out to be a very darn good MMORPG, one of the best if not the best. Many of you can think what you want of the whole SWG thing but Lucas Arts was also involved in SWG. If you hate all of SOE, then hate on Lucas and stop being bias. Honestly people, you have not even tried all SOE games, most of you did not try Vanguard and ya just come to forums to rant and rave and whine and moan. You all need to meditate or take a few deep breaths about this Smed guy. You supposedly want the person dead or gone? Why? he ruined an MMORPG? I take back the whole take a deep breath, ya need professional counseling and to be locked in a padded room. If you guys think you can do better, go learn to program and get a job in gaming.
Also to the person who said if someone likes a game it doesn't make it good? It does, cause to that person it could be magical. If VG has 35,000 subs thats 35,000 you want to not have fun anymore. That people is selfish and rude, that is nothing short of anger, hate, and a severe case of rage.
I for one hope all MMO's stay open, who am I to want a game to die and ruin someones fun? I did not like what they did to Ultima Online with AoS and I left years ago. My moms till plays that game and it brings her so much joy its crazy. I wont pretend you understand other peoples feelings, you obviously don't take others into consideration. Without UO my mom would be a lot less happy, just like a lot of people would be without SWG and VG, stop and try to feel what they would feel.
Be cool to people, and try and stay cool that way you never have to regret making someone feel bad. Don't take what ya got granted because some people never get to feel happy. We get to play these great MMOs and surf a good site. Be thankful for what ya got and next time ya feel down imagine a fat sea otter waddling with a pillow and a night cap. Bam! smiles!
I have not used MMORPG for a very long time. EDIT: very long time is relative, as I used to visit this section on a regular and daily basis. It is ironic that I began to use MMORPG after I was banned on another site for criticism of Vanguard that was directed toward a Moderator.
However, when the most willful and wanton trollers and flamers from other boards post here regularly, that is a pretty clear indication of what has become of this section. I hardly visit anymore; it is not worth the time. I think that is unfortunate. The community is composed of people that are reasonable that visit MMORPG for reliable information. Instead, what we have here is quite contrary. It does not even really bother me anymore, but I think it is nevertheless an unfortunate situation.
ahhhhh how many mmorpg.com accounts does one need to convince people a BS game is gold?
Good question. He has 593 posts since March 23, 2007. The troll must own stock.
SOE is where Bad MMO's go to die....It's like an Elephant Grave Yard!
They will take any terd game and add it to their crap "Library" to sell their worthless Station Pass.
I would pay 40 Bucks a month for WoW, Or LOTRO , or Hell even DDO & get more of my moneys worth on any of those individual games than I would from SOE entire Library for $9.99 a month!
SOE is where Bad MMO's go to die....It's like an Elephant Grave Yard!
They will take any terd game and add it to their crap "Library" to sell their worthless Station Pass.
I would pay 40 Bucks a month for WoW, Or LOTRO , or Hell even DDO & get more of my moneys worth on any of those individual games than I would from SOE entire Library for $9.99 a month!
If it had not been for SOE Planet Side would have been dead years ago, so would EQ, so would many games that people play. When you say they kill someones hobby I think they have done the opposite. EQ2 is turning out to be a very darn good MMORPG, one of the best if not the best. Many of you can think what you want of the whole SWG thing but Lucas Arts was also involved in SWG. If you hate all of SOE, then hate on Lucas and stop being bias. Honestly people, you have not even tried all SOE games, most of you did not try Vanguard and ya just come to forums to rant and rave and whine and moan. You all need to meditate or take a few deep breaths about this Smed guy. You supposedly want the person dead or gone? Why? he ruined an MMORPG? I take back the whole take a deep breath, ya need professional counseling and to be locked in a padded room. If you guys think you can do better, go learn to program and get a job in gaming.
Also to the person who said if someone likes a game it doesn't make it good? It does, cause to that person it could be magical. If VG has 35,000 subs thats 35,000 you want to not have fun anymore. That people is selfish and rude, that is nothing short of anger, hate, and a severe case of rage.
I for one hope all MMO's stay open, who am I to want a game to die and ruin someones fun? I did not like what they did to Ultima Online with AoS and I left years ago. My moms till plays that game and it brings her so much joy its crazy. I wont pretend you understand other peoples feelings, you obviously don't take others into consideration. Without UO my mom would be a lot less happy, just like a lot of people would be without SWG and VG, stop and try to feel what they would feel.
I don't hate Smed or wish to burn Brad's house down. I don't sit up at night sticking pins in their vodoo doll likenesses. I did however play SWG, EQI, EQII and Vanguard and am pretty disgusted by some of their business practices. I don't know if keeping something like Planetside or Matrix online up and running would be considered a "quality" of SOE? If it wasn't for the station pass they would close those games down. If they we're not making money I guarantee Smed wouldn't keep them running just for the fans.
I agree with you that us "Trolls" should chill out a little bit. We have two weeks according to Smed before we find out what SOE will do with VG. I've gotten alot of my frustrations out and think I will finally try another game instead of waiting on news on VG. I will concede that Smed and Brad aren't the Paris Hilton's of the MMORPG scene and simply say they are misguided. They had sucess with EQI and haven't figured out yet how to top that sucess. Many of us have just gotten burned multiple times believing that they are bringing the next great thing is all.
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Have you seen Smed's blog lately, Cym? http://blog.station.sony.com/
All he cares about is RMT's and what a BILLION dollar industry it could be and blah, blah, blah. He's not interested in gamers. He's interested in money. That's why EQ2 flopped and now they're actually trying to make it Everquest II instead of whatever the hell that was I bought way back when.
Sorry, but after I've already done the grind, got rid of my stuff and left a game, there's really no reason to go back and chance another disaster like they had going with DoF (excuse for a revamp) expansion. I mean I have choices now, so I don't have to settle anymore. That's what they don't understand. They actually thought we LOVED their style. They never stopped to think it was only because that's all there was at the time.
And no offense, but every time SOE does wind up hiring a known gamer, the gamer turns into some zombie-fied reincarnation of them. I think they put something in the water cooler.. .I dunno.
With Vanguard, they also hired experienced gamers and although they didn't slip a mickey in the water, they didn't bother to listen to a word they told them at ALL. What makes you think they'd ever listen to the ones here?
The promise and allure of increased capital and revenue for them. "Listen to my ideas, I'll make you more money than you ever dreamed possible"Speak their language; sweet sweet greed.
Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...
Yeah but it's slave labor he has now. You grind and get the goods to sell. He takes 10% off the top for doing nothing. That's what Station Exchange is all about.
What he really wants is to just be able to sell goods upfront. That gives him 100% profit for just having the virtual items to sell. That's his idea of getting rid of the gold farmers, or how he's selling the idea anyway. But it's actually him becoming one himself. Only his version is where he has total control and total profit. It's like printing free money. I'm not a gold reseller fan, but this is no way to rectify the situation either.
There's a reason why other companies maintain an anti-cheat program and still top the charts. Because they build great games and worry about their integrity. Money comes as a result of that, not Smedley's type of brainstorming. I think it's clear how he thinks just by reading his blog thoughts.
I don't know what the hell it is, or what it does, but looking at it makes me feel all warm and tingly.
Something so sexy about that picture.
I wouldn't call it greed. it's the nature of the role he plays at SoE. His job is first and foremost to make money; if he's not making money then he's a failure as President of SoE.
MMORPG.com is making someone money. There's a company behind this site, and someones in charge of that company and responcible for making the site make money. It's no dif. then what Smedley has to do. So calling it greed really isn't fair. He isn't working for a non-profit group.
you cant blame people for their hate and anger when they are wronged by other people. not a good feeling to pay $50 of your hard earned cash to find out a game is total bullshit the entire time. no one really likes that feeling. if you dont mind paying retail prices for a beta game, hey, go nuts have fun, i won't stop ya, but dont undermind peoples feelings from being violated by a corporation.
devs messed up and now they are paying for it. its a beta flat out, there is no changing that fact. if you feel like paying for it, do so, but other people have certain standards and as they should. SIGIL and VSOH is going to be a major example for future game companies on what not to do.
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Yeah but it's slave labor he has now. You grind and get the goods to sell. He takes 10% off the top for doing nothing. That's what Station Exchange is all about.
What he really wants is to just be able to sell goods upfront. That gives him 100% profit for just having the virtual items to sell. That's his idea of getting rid of the gold farmers, or how he's selling the idea anyway. But it's actually him becoming one himself. Only his version is where he has total control and total profit. It's like printing free money. I'm not a gold reseller fan, but this is no way to rectify the situation either.
There's a reason why other companies maintain an anti-cheat program and still top the charts. Because they build great games and worry about their integrity. Money comes as a result of that, not Smedley's type of brainstorming. I think it's clear how he thinks just by reading his blog thoughts.
He's talking about offering something a LOT of other companies are already doing. Item exchange is nothing new. Richard Garriot even commented on it in the G4 interview and hinted that it's going to become the norm for online games as companies battle to keep 3rd party companies from profiting off of thier work.
It's alos a business model that's been used in other countries for quite some time. Remember, the US still isn't a very big market for MMO's, and places like Korea where it's become the so prevelent, these payment models are rather normal.
Even guild wars does it.
Take a look at Eve. They've been tinkering with a similliar payment model for a bit now with the ISK for GTC. Allowing players to sell game time cards that they purchase from CCP for in game currency.
Anti-cheat programs don't work. At least not in MMO's, and certianly not to prevent item sales. L2 has, or had, an anti-cheat program and anyone familliar with the game knows it doesn't do any good as far as gold farming goes. Even Blizzards anti-cheat doesn't stop gold selling, or people from cheating.
Anytime a thread is started about a SOE game it will be hijacked by anyone who hates SOE.There is no possible way to have an intelligent logical conversation with these people.
It does not matter to them if people actually play the game and enjoy it.These haters cant stand the fact that a person could actually enjoy a game made by a company they wish would go away.
Some of these same people come from SWG and actually feel entitled to a game from almost 4 years ago that no longer exists.Some of them repeatedly predict the end of SWG 2 years after the last revamp.Yet it is still going and getting better by the month.
When it comes to VG they want it to fail miserably.Instead of giving it a fair shot that it could get better they would rather it just fail.They could care less if you actually enjoy the game they will do the following things in response:
1.Point out that "Smedley" is the worse person in the world.
2.If you tell them that SOE is a leading developer of online gaming and actually helped it become popular they will respond with:"SWG is doomed and that will be the nail in the coffin for SOE they deserve it after everything they have done to players!!"
3.EQ is still around and still going strong with new content and expansions:"yeah but who plays that anymore?!?!"
4.EQ2 players say the game is better now than it was when it launched:"The graphics look horrible,they are so plastic looking!!!"
5.With the SOE pass you can play a few games that look pretty decent:"No way am i going to give SOE any of my cash"
There is no reasoning with the SOE haters.What i dont understand is that if i generally hate something i dont even think about it and i stay away from it as well.These people are just insane with hatred,so anytime you ask them to play nice concerning SOE just forget about it.
Most every thread on mmorpg.com that mentions a SOE game has probably been hijacked by the haters.Dont ever think that you will ever have a thread without them coming in to it.If you want an answer about a SOE game i suggest you try the official forums for that game or another site besides this 1.
What is your physical limit?
Yeah but it's slave labor he has now. You grind and get the goods to sell. He takes 10% off the top for doing nothing. That's what Station Exchange is all about.
What he really wants is to just be able to sell goods upfront. That gives him 100% profit for just having the virtual items to sell. That's his idea of getting rid of the gold farmers, or how he's selling the idea anyway. But it's actually him becoming one himself. Only his version is where he has total control and total profit. It's like printing free money. I'm not a gold reseller fan, but this is no way to rectify the situation either.
There's a reason why other companies maintain an anti-cheat program and still top the charts. Because they build great games and worry about their integrity. Money comes as a result of that, not Smedley's type of brainstorming. I think it's clear how he thinks just by reading his blog thoughts.
He's talking about offering something a LOT of other companies are already doing. Item exchange is nothing new. Richard Garriot even commented on it in the G4 interview and hinted that it's going to become the norm for online games as companies battle to keep 3rd party companies from profiting off of thier work.
It's alos a business model that's been used in other countries for quite some time. Remember, the US still isn't a very big market for MMO's, and places like Korea where it's become the so prevelent, these payment models are rather normal.
Even guild wars does it.
Take a look at Eve. They've been tinkering with a similliar payment model for a bit now with the ISK for GTC. Allowing players to sell game time cards that they purchase from CCP for in game currency.
Anti-cheat programs don't work. At least not in MMO's, and certianly not to prevent item sales. L2 has, or had, an anti-cheat program and anyone familliar with the game knows it doesn't do any good as far as gold farming goes. Even Blizzards anti-cheat doesn't stop gold selling, or people from cheating.
Maybe he should start worrying about making great games first, then worry about how to be a billionaire, second?
My whole point was, he's not doing great anymore because his priorities are screwed up and his blog just about proves it.
Even if SOE goes full-blown RMT-style games, that won't stop outside forces from trying to gain a substantial profit. Case in point is stealing passwords to take what you own. RMT's won't solve that. Instead of Smedley addressing the problem by throwing technology at stopping the cause of the problem, he's just taking a "can't beat 'em, join 'em" stance. But it won't solve the problem, neither will it add integrity to anything he creates.
And just because G4 had an interview that RMT's are the wave of the future, doesn't make it so, doesn't prove it's successful and certainly doesn't prove most gamers want to play under those conditions. I know I won't pick a game that does over a game that doesn't. If it were that simple, Blizzard would have caved in a long time ago. Sigil/Vanguard is also against it. Time will tell if they change that stance under SOE.
Yeah but it's slave labor he has now. You grind and get the goods to sell. He takes 10% off the top for doing nothing. That's what Station Exchange is all about.
What he really wants is to just be able to sell goods upfront. That gives him 100% profit for just having the virtual items to sell. That's his idea of getting rid of the gold farmers, or how he's selling the idea anyway. But it's actually him becoming one himself. Only his version is where he has total control and total profit. It's like printing free money. I'm not a gold reseller fan, but this is no way to rectify the situation either.
There's a reason why other companies maintain an anti-cheat program and still top the charts. Because they build great games and worry about their integrity. Money comes as a result of that, not Smedley's type of brainstorming. I think it's clear how he thinks just by reading his blog thoughts.
He's talking about offering something a LOT of other companies are already doing. Item exchange is nothing new. Richard Garriot even commented on it in the G4 interview and hinted that it's going to become the norm for online games as companies battle to keep 3rd party companies from profiting off of thier work.
It's alos a business model that's been used in other countries for quite some time. Remember, the US still isn't a very big market for MMO's, and places like Korea where it's become the so prevelent, these payment models are rather normal.
Even guild wars does it.
Take a look at Eve. They've been tinkering with a similliar payment model for a bit now with the ISK for GTC. Allowing players to sell game time cards that they purchase from CCP for in game currency.
Anti-cheat programs don't work. At least not in MMO's, and certianly not to prevent item sales. L2 has, or had, an anti-cheat program and anyone familliar with the game knows it doesn't do any good as far as gold farming goes. Even Blizzards anti-cheat doesn't stop gold selling, or people from cheating.
Maybe he should start worrying about making great games first, then worry about how to be a billionaire, second?
My whole point was, he's not doing great anymore because his priorities are screwed up and his blog just about proves it.
Even if SOE goes full-blown RMT-style games, that won't stop outside forces from trying to gain a substantial profit. Case in point is stealing passwords to take what you own. RMT's won't solve that. Instead of Smedley addressing the problem by throwing technology at stopping the cause of the problem, he's just taking a "can't beat 'em, join 'em" stance. But it won't solve the problem, neither will it add integrity to anything he creates.
And just because G4 had an interview that RMT's are the wave of the future, doesn't make it so, doesn't prove it's successful and certainly doesn't prove most gamers want to play under those conditions. I know I won't pick a game that does over a game that doesn't. If it were that simple, Blizzard would have caved in a long time ago. Sigil/Vanguard is also against it. Time will tell if they change that stance under SOE.
It was just an interview with Richard Garriot (?), the guy that's making Tabula Rasa. Not about the RMT system. Personally I'm neither for, nor against a game company using alternate payment methods, however, if a game I pay a monthly fee decides that they will start offering item sales I will quit that game.
My fear is that one day someone will put out a great MMO, charge a monthly fee, and offer item sales; that'll suck. Way off topic though.
I hate you all.
Anytime a thread is started about a SOE game it will be hijacked by anyone who hates SOE.There is no possible way to have an intelligent logical conversation with these people.
It does not matter to them if people actually play the game and enjoy it.These haters cant stand the fact that a person could actually enjoy a game made by a company they wish would go away.
Some of these same people come from SWG and actually feel entitled to a game from almost 4 years ago that no longer exists.Some of them repeatedly predict the end of SWG 2 years after the last revamp.Yet it is still going and getting better by the month.
When it comes to VG they want it to fail miserably.Instead of giving it a fair shot that it could get better they would rather it just fail.They could care less if you actually enjoy the game they will do the following things in response:
1.Point out that "Smedley" is the worse person in the world.
2.If you tell them that SOE is a leading developer of online gaming and actually helped it become popular they will respond with:"SWG is doomed and that will be the nail in the coffin for SOE they deserve it after everything they have done to players!!"
3.EQ is still around and still going strong with new content and expansions:"yeah but who plays that anymore?!?!"
4.EQ2 players say the game is better now than it was when it launched:"The graphics look horrible,they are so plastic looking!!!"
5.With the SOE pass you can play a few games that look pretty decent:"No way am i going to give SOE any of my cash"
There is no reasoning with the SOE haters.What i dont understand is that if i generally hate something i dont even think about it and i stay away from it as well.These people are just insane with hatred,so anytime you ask them to play nice concerning SOE just forget about it.
Most every thread on mmorpg.com that mentions a SOE game has probably been hijacked by the haters.Dont ever think that you will ever have a thread without them coming in to it.If you want an answer about a SOE game i suggest you try the official forums for that game or another site besides this 1.
I think you're nuts.
I hate vegetables and spend as much time as I can on vegetarian and vegan sites letting them people know how much better I am, and lima beans suck.
Anytime a thread is started about a SOE game it will be hijacked by anyone who hates SOE.There is no possible way to have an intelligent logical conversation with these people.
It does not matter to them if people actually play the game and enjoy it.These haters cant stand the fact that a person could actually enjoy a game made by a company they wish would go away.
Some of these same people come from SWG and actually feel entitled to a game from almost 4 years ago that no longer exists.Some of them repeatedly predict the end of SWG 2 years after the last revamp.Yet it is still going and getting better by the month.
When it comes to VG they want it to fail miserably.Instead of giving it a fair shot that it could get better they would rather it just fail.They could care less if you actually enjoy the game they will do the following things in response:
1.Point out that "Smedley" is the worse person in the world.
2.If you tell them that SOE is a leading developer of online gaming and actually helped it become popular they will respond with:"SWG is doomed and that will be the nail in the coffin for SOE they deserve it after everything they have done to players!!"
3.EQ is still around and still going strong with new content and expansions:"yeah but who plays that anymore?!?!"
4.EQ2 players say the game is better now than it was when it launched:"The graphics look horrible,they are so plastic looking!!!"
5.With the SOE pass you can play a few games that look pretty decent:"No way am i going to give SOE any of my cash"
There is no reasoning with the SOE haters.What i dont understand is that if i generally hate something i dont even think about it and i stay away from it as well.These people are just insane with hatred,so anytime you ask them to play nice concerning SOE just forget about it.
Most every thread on mmorpg.com that mentions a SOE game has probably been hijacked by the haters.Dont ever think that you will ever have a thread without them coming in to it.If you want an answer about a SOE game i suggest you try the official forums for that game or another site besides this 1.
I think you're nuts.
I hate vegetables and spend as much time as I can on vegetarian and vegan sites letting them people know how much better I am, and lima beans suck.
I take offense sir!!I happen to love nuts!!I just dont like the ones grown and picked by Planters!!!
My reasons are as follows:
1.Throughout the years they have changed the mascot several times without consulting its customer base.
2.The socalled "mixed nuts" have too many variety in them.Why would i like to have so many choices for a single price!!!
3.2 words:honey roasted.(need i say more)
4.The little snack packs in stores are too small to be called a "snack" yet not big enough to satisfy.
5.The peanuts given to us for free on airplanes are insultingly small!!
Good day sir!!
What is your physical limit?
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It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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Yeah, I just wanted to post the picture again. Tingly! Tingly I tells you!!
However, when the most willful and wanton trollers and flamers from other boards post here regularly, that is a pretty clear indication of what has become of this section. I hardly visit anymore; it is not worth the time. I think that is unfortunate. The community is composed of people that are reasonable that visit MMORPG for reliable information. Instead, what we have here is quite contrary. It does not even really bother me anymore, but I think it is nevertheless an unfortunate situation.
Yeah, I just wanted to post the picture again. Tingly! Tingly I tells you!!
Can't knock the guy for doing what works.
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The fact that "some" fans enjoy the game is not indicative of it being a quality title. Every game ever made, down to the most obscure flash game to ones in the $2 bin, have someone who likes them.
When you have a $30 million budget, 6 years of development time, the backing of two industry heavyweights (Microsoft and then SOE), one of the longest betas in history, experienced developers who helped create the genre as we know it, a powerful and experienced publicist, 100,000+ devotees on your pre-release boards, loyal followings of fans from your previous game, and the opportunity to bring in subscriptions from a multiple subscription program, you ought to be able to do a darn sight better than say "well, somebody likes it." You certainly ought not to be in negotiations to sell the game off to someone else 4 months after release and your CEO making repeated public apology letters ceding the many, many problems with the game and also saying that some or all of the Sigil development team may or may not have jobs going forward. I don't consider myself a "hater " for recognizing and attesting to the obvious and the undeniable fact that this game is a huge flop.
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
That got me laughing too. I also played MXO and SWG.
SOE should have a new theme song.
When a problem comes along.
Did anyone else imagine MC Hammer singing that?You must milk it.
Before the cream sits out too long.
You must milk it.
When something's going wrong.
You must milk it.
now milk it.
into shape.
shape it up.
get straight.
go forward.
move ahead.
try to detect it.
it's not too late.
to milk it.
milk it good.
When a good time turns around.
You must milk it.
You will never live it down.
Unless you milk it.
No one gets their way.
Until they milk it.
I say milk it.
Milk it good.
Anytime a thread is started about a SOE game it will be hijacked by anyone who hates SOE.There is no possible way to have an intelligent logical conversation with these people.
It does not matter to them if people actually play the game and enjoy it.These haters cant stand the fact that a person could actually enjoy a game made by a company they wish would go away.
Some of these same people come from SWG and actually feel entitled to a game from almost 4 years ago that no longer exists.Some of them repeatedly predict the end of SWG 2 years after the last revamp.Yet it is still going and getting better by the month.
When it comes to VG they want it to fail miserably.Instead of giving it a fair shot that it could get better they would rather it just fail.They could care less if you actually enjoy the game they will do the following things in response:
1.Point out that "Smedley" is the worse person in the world.
2.If you tell them that SOE is a leading developer of online gaming and actually helped it become popular they will respond with:"SWG is doomed and that will be the nail in the coffin for SOE they deserve it after everything they have done to players!!"
3.EQ is still around and still going strong with new content and expansions:"yeah but who plays that anymore?!?!"
4.EQ2 players say the game is better now than it was when it launched:"The graphics look horrible,they are so plastic looking!!!"
5.With the SOE pass you can play a few games that look pretty decent:"No way am i going to give SOE any of my cash"
There is no reasoning with the SOE haters.What i dont understand is that if i generally hate something i dont even think about it and i stay away from it as well.These people are just insane with hatred,so anytime you ask them to play nice concerning SOE just forget about it.
Most every thread on mmorpg.com that mentions a SOE game has probably been hijacked by the haters.Dont ever think that you will ever have a thread without them coming in to it.If you want an answer about a SOE game i suggest you try the official forums for that game or another site besides this 1.
No other company has had as big of IPs and as many IPs under their belt in the MMoRPG field. EQI for many took a wrong turn at Luclin, SWG never did get it's space-legs, EQII should've broke a million subscribers but they forgot to put anything EQy in it, and I won't even mention Vanguard, Planetside and Matrix Online. That is quite alot of opportunities to whizz all over some people's favorite hobby. I think it's understandable why SOE is the devil of the MMORPG world. You can go to any site and say "SOE sux" and get 100 people to agree with you. Don't see that going away anytime soon, although I will give props towards the Kunark expansion for EQII. Best idea I've seen them do in a long time and their is a low roar about that game now.
Also to the person who said if someone likes a game it doesn't make it good? It does, cause to that person it could be magical. If VG has 35,000 subs thats 35,000 you want to not have fun anymore. That people is selfish and rude, that is nothing short of anger, hate, and a severe case of rage.
I for one hope all MMO's stay open, who am I to want a game to die and ruin someones fun? I did not like what they did to Ultima Online with AoS and I left years ago. My moms till plays that game and it brings her so much joy its crazy. I wont pretend you understand other peoples feelings, you obviously don't take others into consideration. Without UO my mom would be a lot less happy, just like a lot of people would be without SWG and VG, stop and try to feel what they would feel.
Be cool to people, and try and stay cool that way you never have to regret making someone feel bad. Don't take what ya got granted because some people never get to feel happy. We get to play these great MMOs and surf a good site. Be thankful for what ya got and next time ya feel down imagine a fat sea otter waddling with a pillow and a night cap. Bam! smiles!
Good question. He has 593 posts since March 23, 2007. The troll must own stock.
SOE is where Bad MMO's go to die....It's like an Elephant Grave Yard!
They will take any terd game and add it to their crap "Library" to sell their worthless Station Pass.
I would pay 40 Bucks a month for WoW, Or LOTRO , or Hell even DDO & get more of my moneys worth on any of those individual games than I would from SOE entire Library for $9.99 a month!
Can we get an AMEN!?!?!
I don't hate Smed or wish to burn Brad's house down. I don't sit up at night sticking pins in their vodoo doll likenesses. I did however play SWG, EQI, EQII and Vanguard and am pretty disgusted by some of their business practices. I don't know if keeping something like Planetside or Matrix online up and running would be considered a "quality" of SOE? If it wasn't for the station pass they would close those games down. If they we're not making money I guarantee Smed wouldn't keep them running just for the fans.
I agree with you that us "Trolls" should chill out a little bit. We have two weeks according to Smed before we find out what SOE will do with VG. I've gotten alot of my frustrations out and think I will finally try another game instead of waiting on news on VG. I will concede that Smed and Brad aren't the Paris Hilton's of the MMORPG scene and simply say they are misguided. They had sucess with EQI and haven't figured out yet how to top that sucess. Many of us have just gotten burned multiple times believing that they are bringing the next great thing is all.