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  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529
    Originally posted by ownedyou1

    Obviously somebody wanted it or the game wouldnt have 120k subs.



    Your flame is useless.





    I want it.
    The game doesn't have 120k subs so your point is moot.

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  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529
    Originally posted by SWGLover

    Originally posted by Libblik

    Originally posted by ownedyou1

    Obviously somebody wanted it or the game wouldnt have 120k subs.



    Your flame is useless.





    I want it.
    120k subs?



    Sounds like you've never even played this game. Try logging in before you start trolling here.

     

    120k subs?

    Hardly - I'd estimate 400k to 500k with the *huge* upsurge of new players. I have no doubt that SWG could top over a million players before the years out.

    It seems likely to me that SWG won't be that far behind WoW in maybe two years at the max.  

     

     



    You owe me a new sarcasm detector.. mine just burst into flames.

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  • neinnunbneinnunb Member Posts: 28
    You have to ask: Was this ever a damn problem pre-NGE?  NO!  Not even during the CH FOTM days was this a problem.  I see SOE is still at its best.
  • haxxjoohaxxjoo Member Posts: 924
    Originally posted by neinnunb

    You have to ask: Was this ever a damn problem pre-NGE?  NO!  Not even during the CH FOTM days was this a problem.  I see SOE is still at its best.
    Pets where a problem during pre-cu days.  People misused them all the time.  Why not just make parts of the city no pet zones? 
  • hubertgrovehubertgrove Member Posts: 1,141
    Originally posted by neinnunb

    You have to ask: Was this ever a damn problem pre-NGE?  NO!  Not even during the CH FOTM days was this a problem.  I see SOE is still at its best.

     

    Bingo!

    SOE has a long tradition of 'fixing' things that weren't broken so they become worse and 'listening to the playerbase' in such a way that it's as if they don't exist. Eitrher the Pope of Idiots is in charge of game development or, worse, no-one is in charge of development at all and the team is just throwing up random changes to meet some LA-viewed activity charge.

  • haxxjoohaxxjoo Member Posts: 924
    Originally posted by hubertgrove

    Originally posted by neinnunb

    You have to ask: Was this ever a damn problem pre-NGE?  NO!  Not even during the CH FOTM days was this a problem.  I see SOE is still at its best.

     

    Bingo!

    SOE has a long tradition of 'fixing' things that weren't broken so they become worse and 'listening to the playerbase' in such a way that it's as if they don't exist. Eitrher the Pope of Idiots is in charge of game development or, worse, no-one is in charge of development at all and the team is just throwing up random changes to meet some LA-viewed activity charge.

    Pets where used to grief especially at star ports.  They where used to spam.  They where used as giant billboards.  I recall at some stage they caused lag. 

    I can recall alot of times people would call kimo's and block doors with them and just have them be in the way constantly.

    That said the SOE solution is like knocking down your house and rebuilding it because you have a leak in a pipe.  This is standard operating procedures for SOE.  Buffs are broke? Oh well lets just redo the entire combat system.

  • iceman00iceman00 Member Posts: 1,363
    Originally posted by amaedict

    why allways see just the negative ? everyone has different views on things, some like it and some don't. the fact is that mainly only the whinners prowl the soe forums, that is why most posts are so negative there and the reason main reason none of the actual players take part in the forum activity is because trying to sort through 30 topics of people whinning about stupid little things to get to a good one is just annoying. NOT EVERYONE IN THE GAME POSTED THEIR OPINION THERE, so you cannot say none wants it. i know certainly i did not post my views there.
    I remember this used to be the big accusation against those who criticized the NGE.  "You see, only the whiners are on the forums, the overwhelming majority of people are in game logged in having fun with the NGE."  That didn't work then, and it doesn't work now.  More or less, the forums were barometers, and with many things, are the canaries in a coal mine.  So yes the one poster was right, some people wanted this change.  Most likely all the new players who care nothing for RP, and everything for instant gratification and WoW-likeness.  They may like that playstyle, but the SWG community has never taken to kindly to being forced into being like every other game.



    Me, I used to love hanging my mounts out on the less dangerous planets, whether it be a speeder or a creature.  (Of course on Dathomir back then that was having a death wish, as a night sister would spawn and own your mount lol.)  This honestly seems like part of the "new direction" they've been on since the NGE, to remove the RP elements one by one, and turn the game into instant gratification.  (Remember, the first reason LA gave for the NGE was there was "too much reading involved, and everyone wants to be Luke, not Uncle Owen and some boring moisture farmer.  After this, Nancy spoke to the public far less haha.)
  • iceman00iceman00 Member Posts: 1,363
    Originally posted by SWGLover 



     
     
     
    120k subs?
    Hardly - I'd estimate 400k to 500k with the *huge* upsurge of new players. I have no doubt that SWG could top over a million players before the years out.
    It seems likely to me that SWG won't be that far behind WoW in maybe two years at the max.  
     
    Don't feed the trolls.  :)
     
  • iceman00iceman00 Member Posts: 1,363
    Originally posted by Flute

    Auto-storing mounts is just lazy, there are plenty of ways to deal with how they could be "missused".   The problem I suspect is that the original design of SWG and the NGE targetting system  just don't really work together  in this regard, the mounts really can be a problem, but it is a problm of the NGE's design change not thinking that through properly first, as with oh so many other things in that switch.



    Sadly it is yet another chip out of what made SWG different, to go with the savage hacks that came with CU and NGE.  I liked that your mount did not evaporate when you got off it; just like UO.  But now they are just continuing to push SWG closer to EQ2 and WoW, or at least still trying.  I wonder what is next, really?  Take out space entirely?
    I don't know if one wants to call it lazy.  No need to flame people over it.  I think it's a rather absurd change myself.  It's more people like what WoW did, and they like things instantly.  They don't want to have to actually get on the mount once it is called, nor do they have to want to store it before venturing out into the open.



    There's much wrong and flawed with that mindset of gaming, but I don't think it makes one de facto lazy.
  • iceman00iceman00 Member Posts: 1,363
    Originally posted by haxxjoo

    Originally posted by neinnunb

    You have to ask: Was this ever a damn problem pre-NGE?  NO!  Not even during the CH FOTM days was this a problem.  I see SOE is still at its best.
    Pets where a problem during pre-cu days.  People misused them all the time.  Why not just make parts of the city no pet zones? 

    I don't see how pets were really misused constantly during the days of Pre-CU.  Examples?  (I ask that seriously.)
  • LaterisLateris Member UncommonPosts: 1,848

    You can macro this- bah why implement it when its already there. This is dumb. I would rarther RP in SWG than that disgraceful game called WoW anyday.  SWG still has more to offer in terms of RP than ever- especially with story teller coming love.

  • haxxjoohaxxjoo Member Posts: 924
    Originally posted by iceman00

    Originally posted by haxxjoo

    Originally posted by neinnunb

    You have to ask: Was this ever a damn problem pre-NGE?  NO!  Not even during the CH FOTM days was this a problem.  I see SOE is still at its best.
    Pets where a problem during pre-cu days.  People misused them all the time.  Why not just make parts of the city no pet zones? 

    I don't see how pets were really misused constantly during the days of Pre-CU.  Examples?  (I ask that seriously.)



    Pet tumblers.  Exploiting Pet tricks to gain and macro through the doctor/medic professions.  That is just 1 exploit I know of.

  • AveBethosAveBethos Member Posts: 611
    Originally posted by ownedyou1

    Obviously somebody wanted it or the game wouldnt have 120k subs.



    Your flame is useless.





    I want it.
     Did you mean to say 12 subs?  120K subs???  Haha, thanks for the laugh kid.
  • mindspatmindspat Member Posts: 1,367

    This is a very bad thing.  Another prime example that those at the helm who are calling shots and making desgin decisions have little understanding of the greater requirements to have viewable pets and mounts. 

    This completely ruins it.  Why not just completely remove mounts all together?

    garbage.

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