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do you guys feel the same about WoW

spikeynormanspikeynorman Member UncommonPosts: 150

do you guys feel the same way i do when people bash WoW  do you wonder why they do it?

i want to know why they think its fun to make fun of something that makes people happy

i mean i don't absolutley love WoW but its ok anyone feel the same and i feel like defending it lol

anyone have the same opinions?

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  • ronan32ronan32 Member Posts: 1,418
    I think its pretty stupid to defend a game, unless you made the game yourself......the majority of the people who hate wow have been playing it for 2 years non stop.....they are burnt out and think the game is crap, even though the game held their attention for 2 years...instead of saying great game but its time to move on they bash the game because they dont recieve that same high they got when they first played it.
  • AxlinAxlin Member Posts: 27
    I don't bash WoW, but I am letting my subscription die after about 9 months of play time. I'm absolutely burnt out of this game and I simply hate it. Then again, I wouldn't have played WoW at all if it wasn't for the fact that I have a MacBook. If I had a MacBook Pro, I'd be able to keep playing EQII, and I'd still be happy. =P



    I will tell people of my experience in WoW if prompted, but I won't go out of my way to troll about how awful of a game I think it is. I think that's petty and stupid. I think that people should play these games based on what they enjoy. If you like a game, whether it be WoW, EQII, L2, or whatever, good for you! Keep on playing it; I won't bother you.



    Just ignore the people that go around saying that your choice is crap. You can't go listening to everything everybody says.
  • SmurfMagicSmurfMagic Member Posts: 664
    Originally posted by ronan32

    I think its pretty stupid to defend a game, unless you made the game yourself......the majority of the people who hate wow have been playing it for 2 years non stop.....they are burnt out and think the game is crap, even though the game held their attention for 2 years...instead of saying great game but its time to move on they bash the game because they dont recieve that same high they got when they first played it.
    QFT !
  • ThelaniaThelania Member Posts: 26

    I haven't played for several months and am burnt out also. IMHO They waited to long  to put out that Burning Crusade expansion that  myself and my friends breezed through in 3 weeks. Tomorrow I am cancelling my account  and am sure my friends will follow suit. Blizzard won't miss my  few dollars.

    Think I'll go back to EQ1 for a bit and enjoy some old school playing.

  • NetspookNetspook Member UncommonPosts: 1,583
    Originally posted by ronan32

    the majority of the people who hate wow have been playing it for 2 years non stop



    If that's a fact, then prove it.

    My impression is that there are 3 kinds of WoW haters:

    1. Those who play a shitty game with very few subscribers...
    2. Those who consider themself "hardcore" and tries to convince WoW players that they don't have a good time when playing this game
    3. WoW players who suddenly realized their lvl 60 e-peens were turned to garbage the moment TBC was released

    A lot of haters will probably fit under both #1 and #2...

    I really love this game myself, but I'm going to cancel my sub. This is simply because the game is damned fun up to max lvl, but once you hit 70, it's game over if you don't like raid/arena. And the upcoming 2.1.0 "nerf absolutely everything and add another raid instance" patch, isn't making my decision hard. (Yeah, I've played on the test server, so I'm not completely clueless about it's features...)

    Btw, Thelania:

    There's no chance that you can "breeze" through TBC in 3 weeks, that's a lie. At least if you are getting the attunements and are doing all instances with all their contents. But I do agree it took too long for them to release TBC - also we keep hearing about a new one every 12 months, but since Blizzard ALWAYS delays their releases, we're probably taking about every 18-24 months or so.

  • SepulcherSepulcher Member Posts: 216

    I played WoW since beta and recently quit for good.  The first year of the game was great and I would do it all over again if given the choice.  The second year it started to lose its luster.  After 2 years with repetitive raids, pointless PvP, unevolved plot, bland Avatars, tedious rep grinds, lack of imersion, huge gear gaps, childish community, stagnant world, lame crafting system, and uninspired zones (i.e. Barrens, Thousand Needles, Tanaris, Silithus, Searing Gorge, Burning Steppes, Blasted Lands, Badlands, and Stonetalon Mountains) you begin to see its failings.  I stuck with it for so long because there was nothing better and I enjoyed the "idea" of MMOs.  But now that other games are being launched that offer a different type of game I quit.

    I got the Expansion, I leveled to 70, I got my heroic keys, I raided Kara, I raided Gruul's, I raided Mag, and I raided SSC.  I had phat lewts from raiding, I had HWL gear from PvP, I had Gladiator gear from Arenas, I got Heroic items, and I got rep rewards.  I did it all in what? Three months?  I have many alts, four level 60+ characters, and tons of gold.  I did it all.  I left because the game isn't evolving, it isnt getting better, and it isnt innovative.  Blizzard has chosen to make a massive game that appeals to a wide spectrum of players.  They could have made the most unique and inspired game of its generation, but they gave in to greed.

    I do not fault them for opening up their wallets because most people would do the same.  I do fault them for being blinded by all that money and choosing instead to pump out more of the same.  WoW is the Fisher Price MMO.  Its a great place to start (although I actually started with EQ) but once you've grown up and realise how much more potential there is out there, it loses its novelty.

    A polished turd is still a turd.

     

  • cyanncyann Member Posts: 73
    1. Those who play a shitty game with very few subscribers...
    2. Those who consider themself "hardcore" and tries to convince WoW players that they don't have a good time when playing this game
    3. WoW players who suddenly realized their lvl 60 e-peens were turned to garbage the moment TBC was released
    U can add 1 more group. Bored WoW, hatin kids and cheatin ex hc-players. I could play wow further but is 1 term.

    Server 20+, IQ necessary 115+,  dedicated players. Playin with kids turns wow in hell.  I am off. It wasnt worth gaming already 1,5 or 2 years ago. Just frustration >>>>>! fun.  KKTHXBYE , wish to all kids stay in WoW, i need sensible game, far from u ( dreams ;s).
  • URMAKERURMAKER Member UncommonPosts: 671
    Originally posted by Sepulcher


    I played WoW since beta and recently quit for good.  The first year of the game was great and I would do it all over again if given the choice.  The second year it started to lose its luster.  After 2 years with repetitive raids, pointless PvP, unevolved plot, bland Avatars, tedious rep grinds, lack of imersion, huge gear gaps, childish community, stagnant world, lame crafting system, and uninspired zones (i.e. Barrens, Thousand Needles, Tanaris, Silithus, Searing Gorge, Burning Steppes, Blasted Lands, Badlands, and Stonetalon Mountains) you begin to see its failings.  I stuck with it for so long because there was nothing better and I enjoyed the "idea" of MMOs.  But now that other games are being launched that offer a different type of game I quit.
    I got the Expansion, I leveled to 70, I got my heroic keys, I raided Kara, I raided Gruul's, I raided Mag, and I raided SSC.  I had phat lewts from raiding, I had HWL gear from PvP, I had Gladiator gear from Arenas, I got Heroic items, and I got rep rewards.  I did it all in what? Three months?  I have many alts, four level 60+ characters, and tons of gold.  I did it all.  I left because the game isn't evolving, it isnt getting better, and it isnt innovative.  Blizzard has chosen to make a massive game that appeals to a wide spectrum of players.  They could have made the most unique and inspired game of its generation, but they gave in to greed.
    I do not fault them for opening up their wallets because most people would do the same.  I do fault them for being blinded by all that money and choosing instead to pump out more of the same.  WoW is the Fisher Price MMO.  Its a great place to start (although I actually started with EQ) but once you've grown up and realise how much more potential there is out there, it loses its novelty.
    A polished turd is still a turd.
     
    prime example of the kinda people the op is talking about. just another hater

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  • -Ellessar--Ellessar- Member UncommonPosts: 98

    Myself I don't care for WoW that much.  I think its a great game on the grand scale of PC games, but I'd rate it as average as far as other MMOs I've played.  Its well polished, easy to get into, the level grind is the right balance between hardcore and casual, but the community there just stinks, the game world is too static, and the end game is mindlessly repetitive.  All in all it balances to an average MMO. 

    I started shortly after launch because real life friends of mine were playing.  I stopped after 2 or 3 months because I didn't like it.  I went back to SWG and stayed with it until NGE.  After NGE my SWG buds went to WoW so I went to WoW with them.  It was a new server I leveled a new toon, did the alt thing for a while, PvP'ed pretty intensly for a while, and finally started to raid.  I took periodic breaks from the game and to be honest I was never sold on the game.  I played only because my buds were playing. 

    The BC renewed my interest for a a couple of weeks, but once you hit 70 you realize it is pretty much the same old game it has always been.  The only difference this time is I am much less driven to gear out my toon because I know all the work you do will simply be over-ridden when the next X-pac hits.  I never had really uber gear prior to BC, but my guild made it through MC and BWL, so I had pretty decent gear.  Plus I managed to nab the eye of sulf on one of our MC raids and six months of work for my legenardy was erased with the BC.  That sort of pissed me off.  SO I find myself logging in maybe twice a week now only for an hour or two.  I'll probably keep the account active, but awaiting the next MMO to come along.

  • MoreanderMoreander Member Posts: 14

    not hating wow... although my community experience wasn't great (maybe the first 3 months after launch were great, but after that it went into a lot of bashing and argueing (maybe I just got unlucky with who was online at the same time as me)). The game itself was enjoyable (though not nearly as innovative as a lot of people give it credit for), they brought together great ideas from a lot of games that failed, and of course their setting was allready quite popular with gamers. The areas are good, the mobs are good, the GUI works well, there is lot's to do, but it turns into a grind (something that is quite common with MMO's, to be honest I don't know a single one that doesn't turn into a grind) after a while.

    I got bored with wow, it's that simple... I might do the free trial for burning crusade, I might actually go back to subscribing for a few months... then again I might not... I'm sure blizzard will survive and so will everyone that enjoys playing it...

    For those that played it for 2 years and are now calling it a crap game.... uhhhh what?.... if it's so crap why did you play (and pay) for 2 years?... it must obviously have been doing something good.... anyways....

  • RecantRecant Member UncommonPosts: 1,586
    The people who bash WoW are usually just being ignorant or strongly opinionated.   They are called the vocal minority, and every game has them.  The problem with WoW having so many subscribers is that the vocal minority is much bigger, probably larger than the silent majority of other games.



    Every game has haters.  Only WoW has the success!

    Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...

  • HrothmundHrothmund Member Posts: 1,061
    Originally posted by Recant

    The people who bash WoW are usually just being ignorant or strongly opinionated.   They are called the vocal minority, and every game has them.  The problem with WoW having so many subscribers is that the vocal minority is much bigger, probably larger than the silent majority of other games.



    Every game has haters.  Only WoW has the success!
    Finally, a sensible post.
  • checkthis500checkthis500 Member Posts: 1,236
    Originally posted by Netspook

    Originally posted by ronan32

    the majority of the people who hate wow have been playing it for 2 years non stop



    If that's a fact, then prove it.

    My impression is that there are 3 kinds of WoW haters:

    1. Those who play a shitty game with very few subscribers...
    2. Those who consider themself "hardcore" and tries to convince WoW players that they don't have a good time when playing this game
    3. WoW players who suddenly realized their lvl 60 e-peens were turned to garbage the moment TBC was released

    A lot of haters will probably fit under both #1 and #2...

    I really love this game myself, but I'm going to cancel my sub. This is simply because the game is damned fun up to max lvl, but once you hit 70, it's game over if you don't like raid/arena. And the upcoming 2.1.0 "nerf absolutely everything and add another raid instance" patch, isn't making my decision hard. (Yeah, I've played on the test server, so I'm not completely clueless about it's features...)

    Btw, Thelania:

    There's no chance that you can "breeze" through TBC in 3 weeks, that's a lie. At least if you are getting the attunements and are doing all instances with all their contents. But I do agree it took too long for them to release TBC - also we keep hearing about a new one every 12 months, but since Blizzard ALWAYS delays their releases, we're probably taking about every 18-24 months or so.



    There's definitely a 4th type.



    4. Those who play the game expecting it to be a quality game and then realize that after you hit level 20 it's a gear grind for the rest of the game with little variety in quests.



    I loved the content in WoW for all the starter areas and the the content up to level 20.  After that the quests get super repetitive, the creativity of the game drops significantly and it's just a gear grind.

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  • HrothmundHrothmund Member Posts: 1,061
    Originally posted by checkthis500

    There's definitely a 4th type.



    4. Those who play the game expecting it to be a quality game and then realize that after you hit level 20 it's a gear grind for the rest of the game with little variety in quests.



    I loved the content in WoW for all the starter areas and the the content up to level 20.  After that the quests get super repetitive, the creativity of the game drops significantly and it's just a gear grind.
    Isn't it funny how I disagree with you completely. I find the more creative quests are definitely not available at level 20. Hey, what's funner than scooping up poop or crashing a city festival? Then again, judging from your tone, you'll probably label me a WoW fanboy and won't care about what I just posted.
  • LeodiousLeodious Member UncommonPosts: 773


    Originally posted by Hrothmund
    Originally posted by Recant
    The people who bash WoW are usually just being ignorant or strongly opinionated. They are called the vocal minority, and every game has them. The problem with WoW having so many subscribers is that the vocal minority is much bigger, probably larger than the silent majority of other games.Every game has haters. Only WoW has the success!
    FInally, a sensible post.

    That's not sensible. What do you think the people arguing with this guy are? The silent majority. Everyong on these forums (Who posts, not everyone does) is a member of the vocal minority. The majority of people play the game. So what you have here are the people that care enough to take time out of playing a game, or any other activity that they have, to post things on forums about these games.

    Now, people who like WoW have valid points; people who do not like WoW have valid points. But when you argure like this, nothing interesting happens. Some of you are saying that if you still like WoW, you must be an idiot, while some people are saying if you do not like WoW, you must be blind.

    But this is a silly way to go about things. Different People like different things. Maybe some people just can't get into a game that looks like a cartoon, or maybe they get bored because they refuse to raid...but it doesn't matter. Their right to not like a game is indisputable. Others' right to insult them for it is not. but then, their right to insult others for liking WoW is likewise nonexisent.

    For my part, I loved WoW for a couple of years, and I played since beta. But it has lost its flair. This is what happens to games. I will not deny how much fun I had playing the game, but the endgame has become stagnant and I have nothing new to do. I quit a couple months ago and I am trying out LOTRO, but as yet am unsure if I want to stay there. It feels too similar for me to do everything all over again. What I really want is a skill based game that works that isn't EVE.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,078
    Originally posted by spikeynorman

    do you guys feel the same way i do when people bash WoW  do you wonder why they do it?

    Because its fun and entertaining to do so? Takes away some boredom here at work when we can't play our games of choice?  Just because we can?

    i want to know why they think its fun to make fun of something that makes people happy

    Think of us as forum 'griefers'......  we enjoy seeing you whine in posts like this....and we'll take your lunch money too.

    i mean i don't absolutley love WoW but its ok anyone feel the same and i feel like defending it lol

    I don't really hate WOW either, (played it far too much) but it has some definite short-comings which many folks have posted in this thread and elsewhere in the forums.  Nothing wrong with people mentioning the things they didn't care for in the game.

    anyone have the same opinions?

    Of course they do, along with folks who disagree with you and you want to hear them both, otherwise you wouldn't create a new account/threads like this to troll for responses.
    These forums exist for no higher purpose than people's enjoyment.....and if smacking down another game is what they like to do (or defending one) who can tell them they are 'wrong'.


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  • thetankthetank Member Posts: 200
    Originally posted by checkthis500

    Originally posted by Netspook

    Originally posted by ronan32

    the majority of the people who hate wow have been playing it for 2 years non stop



    If that's a fact, then prove it.

    My impression is that there are 3 kinds of WoW haters:

    1. Those who play a shitty game with very few subscribers...
    2. Those who consider themself "hardcore" and tries to convince WoW players that they don't have a good time when playing this game
    3. WoW players who suddenly realized their lvl 60 e-peens were turned to garbage the moment TBC was released

    A lot of haters will probably fit under both #1 and #2...

    I really love this game myself, but I'm going to cancel my sub. This is simply because the game is damned fun up to max lvl, but once you hit 70, it's game over if you don't like raid/arena. And the upcoming 2.1.0 "nerf absolutely everything and add another raid instance" patch, isn't making my decision hard. (Yeah, I've played on the test server, so I'm not completely clueless about it's features...)

    Btw, Thelania:

    There's no chance that you can "breeze" through TBC in 3 weeks, that's a lie. At least if you are getting the attunements and are doing all instances with all their contents. But I do agree it took too long for them to release TBC - also we keep hearing about a new one every 12 months, but since Blizzard ALWAYS delays their releases, we're probably taking about every 18-24 months or so.



    There's definitely a 4th type.



    4. Those who play the game expecting it to be a quality game and then realize that after you hit level 20 it's a gear grind for the rest of the game with little variety in quests.



    I loved the content in WoW for all the starter areas and the the content up to level 20.  After that the quests get super repetitive, the creativity of the game drops significantly and it's just a gear grind. Gear Grind? I'm about to go into Outlands and I've not grinded one single time.

    What makes you think everyone grinds their brains off in this game?



    I mean why does EVERYONE thinks that EVERYONE who plays this game spends 5+ hours a day grinding like a tard boot?



    And..



    What if they do??



    Who the hell are you to criticize them?

    if they enjoy going for the phat lewtz why do everyone has to bash them coz "they arent having fun"



    what do you peeps know bout it?

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  • JackDonkeyJackDonkey Member Posts: 383
    i hate the wow players mostly.  Why do i hate the wow players, because of such things as the self proclaimed pvp god being on a pve server, and worse, the 20-50 fanbois he has.  How can someone proclaim themselves a pvp god and have 20-50 fanbois, cause the game is setup in such a way that it doesn't matter if you do suck you can practice practice practice with close to zero risk.  One day you'll just be good, like whenever I do this they never cast X spell as a counter, you think they would, but they never do.



    Raids can be fun, but not with 25-30 idiots on your team (haven't made it to lvl 70, only know 40 man raids).  Where the suck comes in is that people that can stomach having 25-30 idiots on their team end up thinking they're better than you just cause they have the ability to put up with those idiots, and what's even worse is the idiots thinking they're better then you.



    I went to stratholme once with 4 people that were on majordomo and we kept wiping on the 4th pull, but those idiots probably thought they were better then me since they had purples.  Also I raided with them guys twice, but it was like partnership with another guild thing, and I was in the bitch guild and quit the bitch guild cause they embraced being bitches, so I know that raid guild was a bunch of idiots, one guy was running after domo with retaliation going.



    the game is fun, but it nutures idiots, so damn right i'm going to say wow is a horrible game cause of that.  Next game that has wow's level of interface customization i'm jumping ship, until then you'll find me leveling up some blood elves with 3 RL friends or soloing stuff with my hunter.

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  • snikwadsnikwad Member Posts: 40
    I think ex players hate WOW for one reason.





    What could have been.
  • spikeynormanspikeynorman Member UncommonPosts: 150

    see when people complain about the community in WoW i think i got lucky or your lying because i  never had groups or experiences with ZOMG UBER PWNGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!1!1!1!!!!!!!!!11~! people but once or twice out of my full yr of playing

    thank you god and blizzard for that ignore list

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  • CarufinCarufin Member Posts: 92


    Originally posted by Leodious
    What I really want is a skill based game that works that isn't EVE.

    Same here. EvE would be pretty nice if it wasn't designed from the ground up to encourage ganking and reward the worst forms of PvP.

    What's very nice about WoW is that the "grind" is relatively enjoyable compared to some of the previous games such as "Everquest", etc. If you are on a normal server, you can enjoy both a reasonably fun PvE experience, then go to the Battlegrounds for organized PvP that is implemented in a way that rewards skill and talent.

    When I tire of Raiding and questing, I run the Battlegrounds. When I tire of that, I find I'm in the mood for more Raiding and questing. The crafting system is quite enjoyable, and as such I've developed alts with mastery in every craft.

    As it stands, WoW remains a very good entertainment value in my humble opinion. Of course, those who only Raid, or only Quest, or only chase loot, or only PvP, fail to fully exploit all the possible avenues for fun that WoW offers.


  • DimwitDimwit Member Posts: 3
    I agree with most of this, but wow pvp tends to favor those in the higher range of the level brackests and the best geared. It's sometimes like attacking an m1A1 abrhams witha spitball.
  • RayveRayve Member Posts: 46

    Really it is all down to what you like personally. The success of WoW has exceeded any other MMO to date - by quite a margin and so it is quite clear it does a lot of things right.

    I don't play super mario world any longer, but i would not say a bad word against it - i loved it at the time, it got boring in the end so i moved on. The trouble is most are similar in real life "my old girlfriend was an evil cow" - but when you were with her in the good times she was great right? Unfortunately it's fairly natural to only look back on the bad times or what you didnt like or what it ended up like.

    For me, I remember the very first time i spawned in the Abbey in Elwyyn, the place was out of a fairy tale, magic and atmosphere everywhere. Years later It doesn't hold the same magic any longer - but nothing ever does after a while (or we would still be with our first girlfriend). It doesnt mean the game is suddently crap however. If i could have my memory wiped and start over I would leap at the chance.

    I'm still playing until something better comes along (better for me) and when it does, and its time for me to move on i will look back and say "WoW really rocked, I had a great time while it lasted".

    Some of the posts here (earlier) come across as very bitter with regards to people having better gear than them, trying to do better than them etc. That isnt a problem with the game, i think the problem lies a little deeper than that. If my next door neighbour has an aircraft he goes to work in, where i only have a car - does his aircraft make my car any slower? Do I get to work later now that my neighbour has an aircraft than before he got one? No. Envy/bitterness is only one persons fault, ours. Of course there is the example of PVP where the enemys gear would make yours less affective against it - but you have the same game, same opportunity to get the same gear...there is no excuse. Live with it or don't, but you cant blame the game. Its a reflection of real life where people feel peer pressure, you only feel it if you allow yourself to.

    Anyways, enough boring nonsense from me, this is after all only my opinion. I'm off to kill some horde!

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  • shermon15shermon15 Member Posts: 61

    World of Warcraft was quite an enjoyable experience for me for a couple years.   I would say the main reason I enjoyed it was because of my friends who came with me there and the new ones I met.  It wasnt as socially stimulating or have an indepth crafting system that I enjoyed in SWG, but it had its moments. 

    Blizzard did a good job on this MMO, but what I came to really dispise was the timesink that the end game became.  I was lulled into it the first year and half and gave my 100%.  Then the constant farming weeds and rep for what one would consider a part time job finally stunned me out my like of the game.  I began to dread every moment I had to farm to just enjoy the content I wanted to play.  I dont mind a little farming, but WoW brought it to extreme tediousness.  

     TBC came out and it had some nice quests and new places to see.   However, there hiding behind all the new shiny paint was an even uglier farming/rep grind.  That was the moment I hit the cancel button and moved on.  I miss my friends who somehow enjoy that grind.  I wish them luck with the newest patch and maybe the developers will make the changes that enhance gameplay.

    That is why i dislike the game.  I feel that type of game play is unhealthy.  Some will disagree, some are ignorant, and others have seen the light.  Bottom line as long as you are having fun playing the game you want to play then thats the most important feeling. 

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  • FarScapeFarScape Member UncommonPosts: 185

    I played wow for over 2 years. ever class i played i mastered. i played a rogue for 2 years and i loved its. yes MC was boring but it was fun going in and trying to be it in an hour hour in a half. BWL was my favorite. nef is still the best encounter in the game IMO. AQ40 was ok. and Naxx was fun too. then the BC came out. The hype was kool. leveling from 60-70 with 4 chars was cool. the epic flying mount was kool. but then you start raiding 25 mans and PVP at End Game..... THATS WHERE EVERYTHING GOES WRONG!!!!

    The mechanics in wow are so messed up. When BC came out i Rerolled to a B/E mage. got him to 70 it 6 game days and raided. i got to be the most decked out mage on Shu'halo then i started to see how messed up the mechanics really are... their are hybrid classes out dpsing main classes. why take a certain mainstream class when you can take a hybrid and he can do more for the raid.  Then their are classes that bring way more to the raid then certain other classes, making them completely obsoleate. its RETARDED.  You can make a group for kara consisting of 2 tanks, 2 holy priests, 3 shadow priests and 3 warlocks. and blow through kara so fast. with the ammount of DPS you have in that group. and for gruuls double it but ad your 10khp mage for mage tanking. and ur set......

    Then you have PVP... witch blizz said and made so many promises saying tha they were gonna even all the PVP out at lvl 70 making pvp more skill basec.. witch is complete crap.. hunters and warlocks are still completely overpowered so bad that most classes stand no chance. where is the skill in that blizz...

    in conclution. WOW has become more broken then any mmo i have ever played. the experience has changed for the worse. i would rather do all the 40 man raids and worry about the ppl getting on then doing 10-25 mans were your not needed. Gratz blizz you rushed TBC to quickly and now you have alot of angry players on your hand. GG you have alot of work to do.

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