Guess them hardcore WoW fans really cant say what they see in their game.
Oh well life goes on
another troll flame post...ah well life goes on
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
A.) These forums primarily appeal to the kind of MMORPG gamers that do not like WOW. Veteran MMOGers that have been around the block a few times for the most part. Most noobs that don't have a clue about the MMO world, except for the EQ2, Lineage, and WOW ads everywhere, never make it to this site.
B.) Because WOW is so popular and widely played, more people have their own personal opinion on the subject, and more people will deliberately score it lower than it deserves. The above WOW fanboi was partly right on that subject.
Note: WOW no longer associates with this site because MMORPG.com refused to take down paid for advertisements Blizzard took offense to and tried to strongarm them about.
Martie: Shut up, grow up, and learn what the hell you are talking about before posting on these boards again, preferably in that order.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
Yes. The ratings work according to categories. Say 2 mmorpgs have bad communities but one has better graphics then the one with the better graphics will have a higher rating.
The answer is twofold: A.) These forums primarily appeal to the kind of MMORPG gamers that do not like WOW. Veteran MMOGers that have been around the block a few times for the most part. Most noobs that don't have a clue about the MMO world, except for the EQ2, Lineage, and WOW ads everywhere, never make it to this site. B.) Because WOW is so popular and widely played, more people have their own personal opinion on the subject, and more people will deliberately score it lower than it deserves. The above WOW fanboi was partly right on that subject. Note: WOW no longer associates with this site because MMORPG.com refused to take down paid for advertisements Blizzard took offense to and tried to strongarm them about. Martie: Shut up, grow up, and learn what the hell you are talking about before posting on these boards again, preferably in that order.
Im certainly not a veteran, and am not a troll flame poster as #1 above would like to believe, but I am glad to be cleared up onto why blizzard disassociates itself with this site
So how is it that CoV and guild wars are better games than WoW according the the users of this site? Granted WoW is full of kids and morons who are annoying as heck, it really is the best mmo out there. Cov is better then WoW maybe during character creation and the first 2 missions *maybe*. Guild Wars may be a free game, but that doesnt make a game good. WoW has depth and is just plain fun, furthermore it is the most played mmo. So is it that people are ashamed that they enjoy this much flamed game, and thus vote it down? Or is there something deeper Im missing?
Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good, and in most cases it means something is pretty darn bad (music and TV are good examples). This is because most people are stupid and are easily manipulated by marketing.
Now WoW does do many things very very very well. But the solo (and it most cases team) combat is just boring. Travel times are boring.
Different games are better at different things. For little combat down time and fun travel powers CoV/CoH can't be beat.
For story and graphics LOTRO beats WoW big time. And if I'm playing a MMO for immersion (which I am) the story and atmosphere are important and LOTRO kicks but at this.
For looking good on older systems and UI customization / scripting , WoW is the supreme undefeated master.
Peope always seem to enjoy trashing the biggest and the best. A good example might be North America and how everyone hates us and blames all their problems on us. WoW is the powerhouse for MMOs right now and so the few people who don't like or want to justify not playing it trash it all the time.
The answer is twofold: A.) These forums primarily appeal to the kind of MMORPG gamers that do not like WOW. Veteran MMOGers that have been around the block a few times for the most part. Most noobs that don't have a clue about the MMO world, except for the EQ2, Lineage, and WOW ads everywhere, never make it to this site. B.) Because WOW is so popular and widely played, more people have their own personal opinion on the subject, and more people will deliberately score it lower than it deserves. The above WOW fanboi was partly right on that subject. Note: WOW no longer associates with this site because MMORPG.com refused to take down paid for advertisements Blizzard took offense to and tried to strongarm them about. Martie: Shut up, grow up, and learn what the hell you are talking about before posting on these boards again, preferably in that order.
Im certainly not a veteran, and am not a troll flame poster as #1 above would like to believe, but I am glad to be cleared up onto why blizzard disassociates itself with this site
If you read my post I dont care for blizzard,Though I do care for the attention they brought to the mmorpg games that can only be good news for devs and us as a whole i.e players means cash ,cash means .......you get the Idea...
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
#37 : Biggest and Best are 2 different things. Now what WoW has is notoriety = it's trendy, fashionable in some circles, what happened is the word spread among the kiddies that there is this one game where you can be cool by just speding a lot of time in it, and what do kiddies have more of if not time, and of course they brought their mom, dad, cousin and cousin's friend along because it's accesible to all. ( there is no skill to being good at WoW other than investing time in it)
If think im repeating myself here but, why should the thing(game) that most find to be to their liking "THE BEST" thing that happened to PC games, when maybe more than 2/3 of those that praise WoW have never even gone beyond Solitaire and WoW.
Blizzard did achieve something great : they managed to incorporate pure capitalism laws into the game, invest as little as possible and get the biggest prophit out of it; They made a wishing well where people drop their quarters.
The answer is twofold: A.) These forums primarily appeal to the kind of MMORPG gamers that do not like WOW. Veteran MMOGers that have been around the block a few times for the most part. Most noobs that don't have a clue about the MMO world, except for the EQ2, Lineage, and WOW ads everywhere, never make it to this site. B.) Because WOW is so popular and widely played, more people have their own personal opinion on the subject, and more people will deliberately score it lower than it deserves. The above WOW fanboi was partly right on that subject. Note: WOW no longer associates with this site because MMORPG.com refused to take down paid for advertisements Blizzard took offense to and tried to strongarm them about. Martie: Shut up, grow up, and learn what the hell you are talking about before posting on these boards again, preferably in that order.
Exactly what are u babling on about?, because for the love of me i cant figure it out.
You think that so called only hardcore vetren people use this site? No, just that the majority of the people here do qualify for that description, such is the case with almost all gaming websites. P.S. I never once said hardcore ,oh sorry i forgot the rest of the mmo world are noobs as u like to say. Don't be putting even more words in my mouth I never said Wow dosnt associate with this site, due to the fact mmorpg.com refused to take down gold seeling advertisment sites end of story Since when does Blizzard own MMORPG.com? They have the right to display gay porn if they wanted to, they also have a right to watch their hit rates plummet. Either way, Blizzard can't say jackshit about what MMORPG.com staff does. , which i see they have started again. So please before u go around calling anyone a noob or a so called lesser gamer get ur facts correct. You think that if u have only ever played EQ1 from the vet days u are allowed to have an opinion?? Of course not, I did not say that, the only thing I'm asking you to do, is stop making a fool of yourself everytime someone makes a post that doesn't treat WOW like the holy grail. Such as, oh say, earlier in this thread when someone stated that various games have better individual features than WOW, and you treated his post as if it had come from a braindead idiot. What he stated was truth, WOW's strength is not tied up in doing one thing better than all others, but rather doing most things well. Just in case you're still not listening, that was a compliment you dolt.
My friend before telling me to shut up and grow up, i suggest you do do alike, and then reply to what i have to say.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
That's a nasty stupid can of worms Flyte, but it is partially true. It's the arrogance and belligerence that overcomes the powerful that breeds the ill will, not jealousy. But enough with the rediculous analogies of WoW and "North America" (I assume you meant USA and were disregarding Canada).
WoW is MMO for the masses. It's light, fun and addictive. It's also repetitive and totally lacking in meaningful PvP. I've quit it 3 times now, when I grow tired of it, but while I'm playing it's fun. Accept games for what they are and stop the idiotic elitism. They're all GAMES and the objective is entertainment and FUN. If you're stressing out over the stuff, then you're doing it wrong and should not be giving advice nor dictating what gaming is about.
Personally I'm tired of the whole MMO market at this point. Waiting for Warhammer, but the fantasy thing is getting very old. Break the damn mold and give us a good sci-fi mmo that isn't kindergarten approved and has decent PvP please.
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR Playing: WAR Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online
That's a nasty stupid can of worms Flyte, but it is partially true. It's the arrogance and belligerence that overcomes the powerful that breeds the ill will, not jealousy. But enough with the rediculous analogies of WoW and "North America" (I assume you meant USA and were disregarding Canada). WoW is MMO for the masses. It's light, fun and addictive. It's also repetitive and totally lacking in meaningful PvP. I've quit it 3 times now, when I grow tired of it, but while I'm playing it's fun. Accept games for what they are and stop the idiotic elitism. They're all GAMES and the objective is entertainment and FUN. If you're stressing out over the stuff, then you're doing it wrong and should not be giving advice nor dictating what gaming is about. Personally I'm tired of the whole MMO market at this point. Waiting for Warhammer, but the fantasy thing is getting very old. Break the damn mold and give us a good sci-fi mmo that isn't kindergarten approved and has decent PvP please.
I didn't mean to stir anything up. I was just pointing out that the most powerful are usually the most hated. This seems to be true for video games as well. I agree with you that having fun in a game is all that matters. If you are having fun then play the game and if you aren't having fun then don't play it, but don't try to convince everyone else that it's bad.
So how is it that CoV and guild wars are better games than WoW according the the users of this site? Granted WoW is full of kids and morons who are annoying as heck, it really is the best mmo out there. Cov is better then WoW maybe during character creation and the first 2 missions *maybe*. Guild Wars may be a free game, but that doesnt make a game good. WoW has depth and is just plain fun, furthermore it is the most played mmo. So is it that people are ashamed that they enjoy this much flamed game, and thus vote it down? Or is there something deeper Im missing?
Obviously, your opinion of the game isn't as widespread as you thought it was.
That's a nasty stupid can of worms Flyte, but it is partially true. It's the arrogance and belligerence that overcomes the powerful that breeds the ill will, not jealousy. But enough with the rediculous analogies of WoW and "North America" (I assume you meant USA and were disregarding Canada). WoW is MMO for the masses. It's light, fun and addictive. It's also repetitive and totally lacking in meaningful PvP. I've quit it 3 times now, when I grow tired of it, but while I'm playing it's fun. Accept games for what they are and stop the idiotic elitism. They're all GAMES and the objective is entertainment and FUN. If you're stressing out over the stuff, then you're doing it wrong and should not be giving advice nor dictating what gaming is about. Personally I'm tired of the whole MMO market at this point. Waiting for Warhammer, but the fantasy thing is getting very old. Break the damn mold and give us a good sci-fi mmo that isn't kindergarten approved and has decent PvP please.
I didn't mean to stir anything up. I was just pointing out that the most powerful are usually the most hated. This seems to be true for video games as well. I agree with you that having fun in a game is all that matters. If you are having fun then play the game and if you aren't having fun then don't play it, but don't try to convince everyone else that it's bad.
Correct me if im wrong, didnt this post start as : Why isnt WoW on top of all the other MMOs, as score, just because, mmmm ...well it has 8million subscribers (as if that mattered to many people).
SO how about NOT trying to convince everyone WoW is an alien miracle cure to every ilness of the human soul either ? cuz im seeing a lot more of that than hater posts, its mainly people that complain about the invisible haters and try to pour more juice on the WoW cake in the process.
And AM getting TIRED of IT.
You wanna change something, start with the man(or woman ) in the mirror, dude.
PS : (the Edit)
Martie and Flyte27 - you should make an asskissing circle, cuz well you got things in common. WoW and I G N O R A N C E
I know, i know, im being a meaney but you so deserve it.
Mataa hit it on the head for me...1-70 was a fun ride, then..... with the outlook of running raid after raid, and grinding for this and that , and factions....just knocked the fun out of it for me after i got to 70...
Mataa hit it on the head for me...1-70 was a fun ride, then..... with the outlook of running raid after raid, and grinding for this and that , and factions....just knocked the fun out of it for me after i got to 70...
Yeah but you had some fun while you were playing the game and thats all the matters. You don't have to have fun indeffinatly for a game to be good or no game would succeed. If you got enjoyment out of the game at some point then I'd say it was a success.
Ok, I like WOW, but hate what I feel WOW has done to the MMO market. WOW pretty much made MMOs big business while simultaneously killing the industry. Since WOW there has not been a legitimate worthwhile MMO released (I do NOT consider GW an MMO). Before WOW there was EQ, UO, AO, DAoC and on the horizen was promising new mmos. After WOW and EQ2's lame attempt (better today, but got it's butt kicked and never recovered), the market has stagnated. COH/COV was fun for a while, but it's even more dumbed down and repetitive than WOW. SWG dropped the ball even more than EQ2. MMO developers need to move away from the WOW/EQ paradigm, but publishers and marketing won't let em. The bean counters only see Blizzard's success and have no tolerance for anything new and have unrealistic expectations.
To me, WOW was the harbinger of a long droubt for the only gaming genre I care for anymore. It's a fun game, but I'm tired of it and slightly resent it for what it's done to the market. There are legitiment reasons for people to dislike WOW and dismissing them only gets you dismissed in return.
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR Playing: WAR Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online
That's a nasty stupid can of worms Flyte, but it is partially true. It's the arrogance and belligerence that overcomes the powerful that breeds the ill will, not jealousy. But enough with the rediculous analogies of WoW and "North America" (I assume you meant USA and were disregarding Canada). WoW is MMO for the masses. It's light, fun and addictive. It's also repetitive and totally lacking in meaningful PvP. I've quit it 3 times now, when I grow tired of it, but while I'm playing it's fun. Accept games for what they are and stop the idiotic elitism. They're all GAMES and the objective is entertainment and FUN. If you're stressing out over the stuff, then you're doing it wrong and should not be giving advice nor dictating what gaming is about. Personally I'm tired of the whole MMO market at this point. Waiting for Warhammer, but the fantasy thing is getting very old. Break the damn mold and give us a good sci-fi mmo that isn't kindergarten approved and has decent PvP please.
I didn't mean to stir anything up. I was just pointing out that the most powerful are usually the most hated. This seems to be true for video games as well. I agree with you that having fun in a game is all that matters. If you are having fun then play the game and if you aren't having fun then don't play it, but don't try to convince everyone else that it's bad.
Correct me if im wrong, didnt this post start as : Why isnt WoW on top of all the other MMOs, as score, just because, mmmm ...well it has 8million subscribers (as if that mattered to many people).
SO how about NOT trying to convince everyone WoW is an alien miracle cure to every ilness of the human soul either ? cuz im seeing a lot more of that than hater posts, its mainly people that complain about the invisible haters and try to pour more juice on the WoW cake in the process.
And AM getting TIRED of IT.
You wanna change something, start with the man(or woman ) in the mirror, dude.
PS : (the Edit)
Martie and Flyte27 - you should make an asskissing circle, cuz well you got things in common. WoW and I G N O R A N C E
I know, i know, im being a meaney but you so deserve it.
Peace
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying, but I never said WoW was for everyone. It's the most successful MMORPG to date. Basically what I said was if you enjoy playing a game play it and if you don't then don't play it. I'm not sure where you got that I was trying to convince people to play WoW.
Lol most idiotic thing ive ever read, no wounder blizzard dissasociates itself from this site, and the rest of the wannabe wow killing mmos advertise here.
Im sorry you feel that Blizzard is actually providing you a fun experience, unfortunately for most ppl thats not true, and blizzard dissassociates themselves from this site cuz they know ppl relize the scam they pull right in front of your eyes as you play and give away your money to low bugdet crap.
Yes for 8+ million people they sure are providing a really big fun scam ,unfortunately for you the only thing blizzard did was to produce a top AAA mmorpg game and leave the other companies in the long trail of dust my friend. You keep talking about GW, but are u actually playing it or are one of those people that pretends to play games on this forums and then goes back to playing wow. My friend its not blizzards fault u had an addiction to their game and now u hate them. For every hater that leaves wow there are probably 20+ more signing up to play everyday.
omg omg im so offended, i like wow and am so called ignorant for liking it.
No, you are being called ignorant for not knowing basic facts about WOW itself and how it compares to other games in the genre, and then coming onto this site and displaying your ignorance for all to see.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
Ok, I like WOW, but hate what I feel WOW has done to the MMO market. WOW pretty much made MMOs big business while simultaneously killing the industry. Since WOW there has not been a legitimate worthwhile MMO released (I do NOT consider GW an MMO). Before WOW there was EQ, UO, AO, DAoC and on the horizen was promising new mmos. After WOW and EQ2's lame attempt (better today, but got it's butt kicked and never recovered), the market has stagnated. COH/COV was fun for a while, but it's even more dumbed down and repetitive than WOW. SWG dropped the ball even more than EQ2. MMO developers need to move away from the WOW/EQ paradigm, but publishers and marketing won't let em. The bean counters only see Blizzard's success and have no tolerance for anything new and have unrealistic expectations. To me, WOW was the harbinger of a long droubt for the only gaming genre I care for anymore. It's a fun game, but I'm tired of it and slightly resent it for what it's done to the market. There are legitiment reasons for people to dislike WOW and dismissing them only gets you dismissed in return.
I completely agree. But the good new is that any news MMO that really wants to hit it big is gong to have to:
Peope always seem to enjoy trashing the biggest and the best. A good example might be North America and how everyone hates us and blames all their problems on us. WoW is the powerhouse for MMOs right now and so the few people who don't like or want to justify not playing it trash it all the time.
Do you actually think busy working men & women have it out for a PC game?
Perhaps maybe...just maybe some people think WOW's an OK game but enjoy other titles more?
Peope always seem to enjoy trashing the biggest and the best. A good example might be North America and how everyone hates us and blames all their problems on us. WoW is the powerhouse for MMOs right now and so the few people who don't like or want to justify not playing it trash it all the time.
Do you actually think busy working men & women have it out for a PC game?
Perhaps maybe...just maybe some people think WOW's an OK game but enjoy other titles more?
I believe that most adults are immature including myself to a large extent regardless of what they may believe. With this immaturity comes things like finding vindication through saying bad things about certain games. It's true that peoples opinions vary and as I said I don't think everyone should like or dislike World of Warcraft. I just feel that people are trying to convince others one way or the other. Since peoples opinions vary a great deal on what is fun and what is not fun it's better to let the person play and make up their own mind on the subject.
So how is it that CoV and guild wars are better games than WoW according the the users of this site? Granted WoW is full of kids and morons who are annoying as heck, it really is the best mmo out there. Cov is better then WoW maybe during character creation and the first 2 missions *maybe*. Guild Wars may be a free game, but that doesnt make a game good. WoW has depth and is just plain fun, furthermore it is the most played mmo. So is it that people are ashamed that they enjoy this much flamed game, and thus vote it down? Or is there something deeper Im missing?
I've played all three and can say that they were all ultimately boring. Only WoW seemed to have held my attention till I reached the end-game experience. GW and CoH were boring at the onset. It's really a personal preference. All the games require grinding and questing, so it mainly boils down to technicalities.
Coz the "player reviews" in this site are worth shit .. its too easy to create multiple accounts to sway the votes ... anyone with any common sense will know the votes don't mean anything... you gotta play the game to know if you will like it or not. WoW is a great game but some people who hated it (for one reason or another) will of course try to pull WoW's rank down with multiple accounts.
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If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
The answer is twofold:
A.) These forums primarily appeal to the kind of MMORPG gamers that do not like WOW. Veteran MMOGers that have been around the block a few times for the most part. Most noobs that don't have a clue about the MMO world, except for the EQ2, Lineage, and WOW ads everywhere, never make it to this site.
B.) Because WOW is so popular and widely played, more people have their own personal opinion on the subject, and more people will deliberately score it lower than it deserves. The above WOW fanboi was partly right on that subject.
Note: WOW no longer associates with this site because MMORPG.com refused to take down paid for advertisements Blizzard took offense to and tried to strongarm them about.
Martie: Shut up, grow up, and learn what the hell you are talking about before posting on these boards again, preferably in that order.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Now WoW does do many things very very very well. But the solo (and it most cases team) combat is just boring. Travel times are boring.
Different games are better at different things. For little combat down time and fun travel powers CoV/CoH can't be beat.
For story and graphics LOTRO beats WoW big time. And if I'm playing a MMO for immersion (which I am) the story and atmosphere are important and LOTRO kicks but at this.
For looking good on older systems and UI customization / scripting , WoW is the supreme undefeated master.
Im certainly not a veteran, and am not a troll flame poster as #1 above would like to believe, but I am glad to be cleared up onto why blizzard disassociates itself with this site
If you read my post I dont care for blizzard,Though I do care for the attention they brought to the mmorpg games that can only be good news for devs and us as a whole i.e players means cash ,cash means .......you get the Idea...
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
#37 : Biggest and Best are 2 different things. Now what WoW has is notoriety = it's trendy, fashionable in some circles, what happened is the word spread among the kiddies that there is this one game where you can be cool by just speding a lot of time in it, and what do kiddies have more of if not time, and of course they brought their mom, dad, cousin and cousin's friend along because it's accesible to all. ( there is no skill to being good at WoW other than investing time in it)
If think im repeating myself here but, why should the thing(game) that most find to be to their liking "THE BEST" thing that happened to PC games, when maybe more than 2/3 of those that praise WoW have never even gone beyond Solitaire and WoW.
Blizzard did achieve something great : they managed to incorporate pure capitalism laws into the game, invest as little as possible and get the biggest prophit out of it; They made a wishing well where people drop their quarters.
Exactly what are u babling on about?, because for the love of me i cant figure it out.
You think that so called only hardcore vetren people use this site? No, just that the majority of the people here do qualify for that description, such is the case with almost all gaming websites. P.S. I never once said hardcore ,oh sorry i forgot the rest of the mmo world are noobs as u like to say. Don't be putting even more words in my mouth I never said Wow dosnt associate with this site, due to the fact mmorpg.com refused to take down gold seeling advertisment sites end of story Since when does Blizzard own MMORPG.com? They have the right to display gay porn if they wanted to, they also have a right to watch their hit rates plummet. Either way, Blizzard can't say jackshit about what MMORPG.com staff does. , which i see they have started again. So please before u go around calling anyone a noob or a so called lesser gamer get ur facts correct. You think that if u have only ever played EQ1 from the vet days u are allowed to have an opinion?? Of course not, I did not say that, the only thing I'm asking you to do, is stop making a fool of yourself everytime someone makes a post that doesn't treat WOW like the holy grail. Such as, oh say, earlier in this thread when someone stated that various games have better individual features than WOW, and you treated his post as if it had come from a braindead idiot. What he stated was truth, WOW's strength is not tied up in doing one thing better than all others, but rather doing most things well. Just in case you're still not listening, that was a compliment you dolt.
My friend before telling me to shut up and grow up, i suggest you do do alike, and then reply to what i have to say.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
That's a nasty stupid can of worms Flyte, but it is partially true. It's the arrogance and belligerence that overcomes the powerful that breeds the ill will, not jealousy. But enough with the rediculous analogies of WoW and "North America" (I assume you meant USA and were disregarding Canada).
WoW is MMO for the masses. It's light, fun and addictive. It's also repetitive and totally lacking in meaningful PvP. I've quit it 3 times now, when I grow tired of it, but while I'm playing it's fun. Accept games for what they are and stop the idiotic elitism. They're all GAMES and the objective is entertainment and FUN. If you're stressing out over the stuff, then you're doing it wrong and should not be giving advice nor dictating what gaming is about.
Personally I'm tired of the whole MMO market at this point. Waiting for Warhammer, but the fantasy thing is getting very old. Break the damn mold and give us a good sci-fi mmo that isn't kindergarten approved and has decent PvP please.
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR
Playing: WAR
Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online
Correct me if im wrong, didnt this post start as : Why isnt WoW on top of all the other MMOs, as score, just because, mmmm ...well it has 8million subscribers (as if that mattered to many people).
SO how about NOT trying to convince everyone WoW is an alien miracle cure to every ilness of the human soul either ? cuz im seeing a lot more of that than hater posts, its mainly people that complain about the invisible haters and try to pour more juice on the WoW cake in the process.
And AM getting TIRED of IT.
You wanna change something, start with the man(or woman
) in the mirror, dude.
PS : (the Edit)
Martie and Flyte27 - you should make an asskissing circle, cuz well you got things in common. WoW and I G N O R A N C E
I know, i know, im being a meaney but you so deserve it.
Peace
Ok, I like WOW, but hate what I feel WOW has done to the MMO market. WOW pretty much made MMOs big business while simultaneously killing the industry. Since WOW there has not been a legitimate worthwhile MMO released (I do NOT consider GW an MMO). Before WOW there was EQ, UO, AO, DAoC and on the horizen was promising new mmos. After WOW and EQ2's lame attempt (better today, but got it's butt kicked and never recovered), the market has stagnated. COH/COV was fun for a while, but it's even more dumbed down and repetitive than WOW. SWG dropped the ball even more than EQ2. MMO developers need to move away from the WOW/EQ paradigm, but publishers and marketing won't let em. The bean counters only see Blizzard's success and have no tolerance for anything new and have unrealistic expectations.
To me, WOW was the harbinger of a long droubt for the only gaming genre I care for anymore. It's a fun game, but I'm tired of it and slightly resent it for what it's done to the market. There are legitiment reasons for people to dislike WOW and dismissing them only gets you dismissed in return.
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR
Playing: WAR
Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online
Correct me if im wrong, didnt this post start as : Why isnt WoW on top of all the other MMOs, as score, just because, mmmm ...well it has 8million subscribers (as if that mattered to many people).
SO how about NOT trying to convince everyone WoW is an alien miracle cure to every ilness of the human soul either ? cuz im seeing a lot more of that than hater posts, its mainly people that complain about the invisible haters and try to pour more juice on the WoW cake in the process.
And AM getting TIRED of IT.
You wanna change something, start with the man(or woman
) in the mirror, dude.
PS : (the Edit)
Martie and Flyte27 - you should make an asskissing circle, cuz well you got things in common. WoW and I G N O R A N C E
I know, i know, im being a meaney but you so deserve it.
Peace
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying, but I never said WoW was for everyone. It's the most successful MMORPG to date. Basically what I said was if you enjoy playing a game play it and if you don't then don't play it. I'm not sure where you got that I was trying to convince people to play WoW.
Yes for 8+ million people they sure are providing a really big fun scam
Here, I'll spell it out for you
M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
1. Do something really different.
2. Have a brilliant marketing team.
3. Have a huge budget.
So what ever that game is – it will kick butt.
Perhaps maybe...just maybe some people think WOW's an OK game but enjoy other titles more?
Dutchess Zarraa Voltayre
Reborn/Zero Sum/Ancient Legacy/Jagged Legion/Feared/Nuke & Pave.
Perhaps maybe...just maybe some people think WOW's an OK game but enjoy other titles more?
I believe that most adults are immature including myself to a large extent regardless of what they may believe. With this immaturity comes things like finding vindication through saying bad things about certain games. It's true that peoples opinions vary and as I said I don't think everyone should like or dislike World of Warcraft. I just feel that people are trying to convince others one way or the other. Since peoples opinions vary a great deal on what is fun and what is not fun it's better to let the person play and make up their own mind on the subject.