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Worth it?

Ganonduarf_2Ganonduarf_2 Member Posts: 32
Okay I'm waiting to get my account up and running but I've got one very important question for everyone, is FFXI better then WoW?

Yours Sincercly,
The Great Ganonduarf...2

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  • indyneindyne Member Posts: 81
    It really depends on what you are looking for.  If you are looking for something similar to WoW then you won't find it in FFXI.  FFXI is much more party oriented and relies heavily on teamwork and working together in groups to progress.  There is very little solo content short of around level 12 or so and you will have to rely on other players to get things accomplished.  Each has its pros and cons.  For me, FFXI had a better community, more teamwork, a bigger sense of accomplishment, and some really impressive areas to explore.  In contrast, FFXI also had the occasional long wait time to find a party, a bit of a funky economy, and it is definitely a game that requires a lot of time, effort, and dedication as it is more or less a grind.  Don't expect to hop on FFXI and bang out some serious EXP in an hour or two like you can in WoW.  Otherwise, there's just so much to say comparing the two, that I don't know where else to start on this one.

    [Here's a list of all the games I've played and/or my computer specs to show how much more seasoned or technologically advanced I am than you.]

  • NetspookNetspook Member UncommonPosts: 1,583

    FFXI is my favourite game, so my answer is yes.

    You say your question is "very important".. You do realize that this is a matter of taste, right?

  • Jackitup32Jackitup32 Member Posts: 15
    In my opinion, FFXI is nothing like WoW.  I'm not here to judge which one is better because I have difficulty deciding that myself.  However, there are positives and negatives towards each game.  FFXI, for example, has the best community I have ever seen in a MMO and everyone is very friendly.  However, FFXI is A LOT more work than WoW.  WoW is an easy leveler and can be soloed all the way.  FFXI, on the other hand, unless you are beastmaster (Solo Job), you work in parties and groups/alliances.   Now, Graphics wise, FFXI has a more earthy look to it and can easily look more realistic then WOW, while wow has a cartoony look to it.  Graphics to me, are not what make the game though.  Its about the story line.  In WOW, I feel scattered and i dont feel like there is much of a plot to the game besides leveling up and killing monsters. This could be fun though because there is less tension to play every day.  In FFXI, there is a main storyline that follows the game through.  And also, for each new quest and mission, there is a Cutscene ( A short video) showing what is going on.  Now I know it seems like I am favoring FFXI, but that Is because it is a more complex game.  WoW, I believe is for anyone who doesnt wish to be online a lot for long periods of time.  Now im not gunna lie.  FFXI is VERY time consuming.  If you want to play, make sure you set off time to play.  WoW, you can just log in, do a quest or 2, and then log off.  Now, you can easily do that in FFXI too but those quests would be the ones that are boring and pointless.  There is more strategy to the bigger quests.  The main thing I like about WoW is the strong PVP (Player v. Player) base.  It is always fun to play against other PC's.  FFXI has a small PVP portion too called Ballista but this is not as big as the PVP severs and battlegrounds in WoW. Now, I think I have stated my opinion well enough and I do feel that I did not favor too much either way.  If you feel I did, I appologize.  If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me and I will get back to you as soon as I can.  You may also reach me on AIM: Jackitup32.  Thank you.
  • KallenTeooKallenTeoo Member Posts: 22
    Personally I think FFXI is better as a whole. I did play wow for just over 2 years including beta and it is one of the best mmo's you can get. Big thing for me was Community the Community is very bad in wow. It's not like FFXI won't get your bad people here and there but overall it's better. FFXI like the above posters said is a lot of work and the Learning curve is steep compared to wow.  Wow has it's problems when it comes to endgame if you want to get something done and feel like you've done something besides level to 70 you have to raid. To get your good gear and lots of it it's raiding a lot , like 5 times a week for atleast 4 hours a day.





    They are both great games but it depends on what you like to do with yourself. I left wow last month to start FFXI fresh and new. And I know a lot of people have been doing the same. It happens everyday.
  • bedolla3401bedolla3401 Member Posts: 293
    what if your favorite game is swg but u like both ffxi and swg?
  • KallenTeooKallenTeoo Member Posts: 22
    well either play them both or switch off when you get bored.
  • Jackitup32Jackitup32 Member Posts: 15
    Originally posted by KallenTeoo

    well either play them both or switch off when you get bored.
    Yea.. thats what I do when I have 2 games.  I can't afford both so I play one for a couple months, then when i get bored, I switch back to the other one.  Then you get pulled back and forth between the games because you are addicted to both haha.  The Power Of MMOs Is amazing.
  • IainzyIainzy Member Posts: 11

    I bought it recentley it's good but WOW surrpasses it in some ways.

    Like FF everyone likes for the story line and gameplay yet in WOW you have more options and quest! Alos it's much larger!

     

    Btw people Don't Flame me......It's boring lol

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  • Jackitup32Jackitup32 Member Posts: 15
    Originally posted by Iainzy


    I bought it recentley it's good but WOW surrpasses it in some ways.
    Like FF everyone likes for the story line and gameplay yet in WOW you have more options and quest! Alos it's much larger!
     
    Btw people Don't Flame me......It's boring lol
    By Bigger, do you mean the world itself is bigger or the game is more complex?
  • IainzyIainzy Member Posts: 11

    Both

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  • Jackitup32Jackitup32 Member Posts: 15
    Well, I dont neccisarily agree with that.  WoW as a world is larger, but not by all that much.  And I believe FFXI is more complex because it isnt a bunch of killing monsters.  You have to build strategy along with other players to reach goals.  I mean.. I could go into more depth but i think you understand what I'm getting at.  I don't try to side either WoW or FFXI because I like them both, and play both.  I just want to get the facts right.
  • KallenTeooKallenTeoo Member Posts: 22
    You both are right in both points. I think FFXI is more of a harder game both with controls and interface getting to know it etc. With that also it's not your easy lvling either you don't do quests to gain those uber xp's as in wow. Wow it self does have a lot of good points and bad. Raids are rough to get 25+ ppl to work together for the common goal gear, you don't do it 1 day in a few weeks it's more of a 5 nights a week hoping to get your 1 piece. I just think after myself playing wow for so long you don't feel like you have done much in it. You can lvl way too quick in wow not like it's bad or anything but myself has gone tired and bored with it. Some will agree some won't. PvP also isn't the greatest fun but is broken.



    But both games are great both have good and bad it's more of what you like. Some would say they don't like both. IMO I think wow is too easy for some players and if you like to jump in a hard game with a better community go FFXI. If you like not hard but can get somewhere quick then wow is it. Both are time sinks...Cuz once you hit wow endgame if you want items your gona do it 3-5 times a week.





    Just my 2 cents
  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564
    Originally posted by Iainzy


    I bought it recentley it's good but WOW surrpasses it in some ways.
    Like FF everyone likes for the story line and gameplay yet in WOW you have more options and quest! Alos it's much larger!
     
    Btw people Don't Flame me......It's boring lol
    Hmm... You mean WoW is much larger?



    If you do, then I have a feeling you didn't get very far in FFXI - or, believe me, you wouldn't be saying that. In sheer content, FFXI dwarfs WoW. In physical land-mass... they're fairly close, perhaps, but I think FFXI still comes out ahead.

    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
    - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • IainzyIainzy Member Posts: 11

    You're probably right the only places i've been to are Gustaberg,Valkrum,Mahura,San-doria the simple places in the game.

    I would say that WOW is lager in Size because if you ran in one direction for an hour you'd cover about 1/100 of the map (A bit of an exagiration there but..)

    Most people play FF-Online because of friends or they've played the series.... I bought it because i don't have any other Online game but am thinking about getting WOW aswell. Instead of playing it at my mates all the time.

     

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  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564
    Originally posted by Iainzy


    You're probably right the only places i've been to are Gustaberg,Valkrum,Mahura,San-doria the simple places in the game.
    I would say that WOW is lager in Size because if you ran in one direction for an hour you'd cover about 1/100 of the map (A bit of an exagiration there but..)
    Most people play FF-Online because of friends or they've played the series.... I bought it because i don't have any other Online game but am thinking about getting WOW aswell. Instead of playing it at my mates all the time.
     
    -FF-Name: Iain - Server: Leviathan - If you are on this server please tell me through Post/Reply :)
    Well, let's put it this way... To run from Windurst to Jeuno - a total of 4 zones (E. Sarutabaruta, Tahrongi Canyon, Meriphataud Mountains, Sauromugue Champaign) on foot, it takes upwards of 40-45 minutes. There are well over 100 zones in this game... I'd say around 140 or so "explorable" ones that aren't just a small restricted area.



    That's alot of world to see.


    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
    - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • KallenTeooKallenTeoo Member Posts: 22
    Wow is large... But imo with the expansions of FFXI it is larger and takes a lot longer to get from place to place even with a chocobo.
  • Another big difference between WoW and FF11 is that WoW uses a pallet system which makes the game a lot more faster pace than final fantasy.  Final fantasy utilizes a macro system that even takes a longer time to set up.   The part i really hate about the game is the strong requirement of teamwork...its impossible to build your character without a team after lvl 40 solo without taking 20 times as much time as it would take in a party (which is still a lengthy time).  My fav class was monk and i did solo my second account to lvl 43  in 92 days but my main i got to 47 in 3 and a half  weeks worth of lvl grinding
  • GravargGravarg Member UncommonPosts: 3,424

    Currently I don't play either of them, but I have played them both each for more than 2 years.  I'll just run down some things imo of what each game has that are important to me.

    =-=Graphics=-=

    WoW graphics are more toon like than realistic. Although the enviroment and spells do look better.

    FFXI graphics are more realistic for characters.  The enviromental graphics are lacking (grass/tree swaying just looks unnatural).

    =-=Sound=-=

    WoW sound is very nice.  I love the music very much, but player sounds can become repetative and boring.

    FFXI is nice for awhile, but soon becomes repetative, there's only like 3 battle songs.

    =-=Community=-=

    WoW has an O.K. community.  Easily you can always just ignore the little kids that seem to run rampant in chat channels, but alot of times they do things that you can't ignore, like kill stealing, ninja, etc.

    FFXI community is AWESOME.  One of the greatest communities I've ever had the pleasure to play with.  Other than a few people (easily less than .01% of the population), people are helpful and you can easily get help with a quest or mission.

    =-=Gameplay=-=

    WoW gameplay is more fast-paced, with you using multiple abilities and what not to defeat your foes.  WoW does lack a real story line.  Traveling is very quick with the gryphons and mounts.  The gameplay overall I would rate as being on "Easy Mode".  There isn't much to it other than find a monster, attack it, kill it.

    FFXI gameplay by many would be considered slow. Most of your damage will come from normal attacks and spells, depending on your current job.  FFXI has a very nice and interactive storyline.  Traveling at times can be pretty horrid (unless you have 36+ whm)  The gameplay overall is much more oriented to group play.  You WILL have to rely on others for you to be a good player.

    =-=Which is better IMO?=-=

    You shouldn't make your decision from this, but since you asked, I will tell you that I did enjoy FFXI more than WoW.  Suprisingly to me, since I am a PvP junkie (yay DAoC).  My main reason for my enjoyment factor would have to come down to the community and group aspect.  It just feels right to group with other people.  Having to rely on them, and them having to rely on me.  Where as WoW you could have 2 or 3 people in your group that aren't very good and still get things done.

  • Ganonduarf_2Ganonduarf_2 Member Posts: 32
    Thanks everyone, I think I'm gonna go with FFXI, sounds more entertaining to me and I like more realistic graphics, the cartoony graphics are one of the worst things I've ever seen in a game.



    Eventually you will see me running past in Final Fantasy XI, that is if were playing on the same server lol.

    Yours Sincercly,
    The Great Ganonduarf...2

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  • drunkensoljadrunkensolja Member Posts: 71

    Good choice Ganon , I've played both games to max lvl and i must say there is waaaay more content and things to do in FFXI than compared to WoW. The only down side to FFXI is having to wait for parties sometimes, and the economy/gilsellers.

     

  • ExeKnight1ExeKnight1 Member Posts: 17
    For me, Final Fantasy XII is not a mmo but it has a great story and a new rpg fighting style, but why play it online with ur PC? it could b better if u could challange people with ur PS2 and fight party vs party.

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  • RinicRinic Member Posts: 715
    Originally posted by ExeKnight1

    For me, Final Fantasy XII is not a mmo but it has a great story and a new rpg fighting style, but why play it online with ur PC? it could b better if u could challange people with ur PS2 and fight party vs party.


    what the hell are you rambling about?
  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564
    Originally posted by Rinic

    Originally posted by ExeKnight1

    For me, Final Fantasy XII is not a mmo but it has a great story and a new rpg fighting style, but why play it online with ur PC? it could b better if u could challange people with ur PS2 and fight party vs party.


    what the hell are you rambling about?

    He's basically saying he'd like it to be a group-versus-group PvP game, I think.



    For starters, let me preface this by saying that level 75 is not the "end-all" of FFXI. It's merely one step in your character's progress. You have a possible 18 jobs you can level up on the same character - no need for alts. So the idea of "winning" the game by reaching level cap is pretty much non-existant.



    That said, as you progress through the game you, have a variety of different activities you can partake in... Promyvion, Dynamis, Sky, Sea, Limbus, Assault, Besieged, Salvage, Ballista, Brenner... and those only cover the battle-oriented activities. Now, that's alot of options.. However, when you consider that each of those is pretty much a mini game-system unto themselves, with their own rules, quirks and objectives, you begin to see just how deep FFXI, overall, really is.



    As for complexity... which I also call "depth".. Here's one example of the kind of depth FFXI has...



    Let's look at one of those battle-oriented activities I mentioned... Limbus. The link below takes you to a page on ffxilcopedia.org that covers Limbus and all it entails.



    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Category:Limbus



    So there you go. And every other such activity in the game is equally involved. You will not see that kind of depth in WoW. Not that that makes WoW "bad" - it is what it is - but it does illustrate the incredible depth FFXI has. Square is, I think, one of the few MMO devs around right now who will stick to their guns and continue to provide that kind of complexity in a market that's becoming more and more catered to the so-called "casual crowd" who seems to want everything easier and faster and less complicated.



    It's really one reason that keeps me playing FFXI after all this time.


    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
    - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • ChrisMatternChrisMattern Member Posts: 1,478


    Originally posted by bHectik
    The part i really hate about the game is the strong requirement of teamwork...its impossible to build your character without a team after lvl 40 solo without taking 20 times as much time as it would take in a party (which is still a lengthy time). My fav class was monk and i did solo my second account to lvl 43 in 92 days but my main i got to 47 in 3 and a half weeks worth of lvl grinding

    And here we have the prime determinate about whether or not you'll like FFXI. This is my FAVORITE part of FFXI, and I expect the team-based emphasis the favorite part of it for a lot of other people who are hooked on it.

    Chris Mattern

  • ChrisMatternChrisMattern Member Posts: 1,478


    Originally posted by Gravarg
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    FFXI is nice for awhile, but soon becomes repetative, there's only like 3 battle songs.

    Actually, there's at least eight. But you always get the same one for battles in a given zone, so it can get a little repetitive.

    Chris Mattern

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