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Morrdak
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Ok, here's the deal. I've got a group of friends I play MMO's and we've gamed together for many years... and for us to agree on one MMO is next to impossible but I figured I'd post on here a question/suggestion topic cause I'm bored at work and I want to see what you guys say. Here's the requirements the game has to have... feel free to suggest, flame, whatever. 
Requirements:
Can't be cartoonie (sorry WoW is cartoonie).
Can't be owned by SOE.
Has to some Character development. (Think EQ).
Has an actual inventory. (not like COV, more like SWG).
Has both PVE (mainly) but has PVP (arena type fighting works).
Has a good grind to get to the high level.
After cap has been reach has different grinds. (EQ's AA points)
Limited Instancing. (not mandatory to have instancing, just if its used... its limited)
If there isn't a game, then so be it... and that's what I was afraid of, however if there are ones that come close feel free to put them too. Thanks.
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Requirements:
Can't be cartoonie (sorry WoW is cartoonie).
Can't be owned by SOE.
Has to some Character development. (Think EQ).
Has an actual inventory. (not like COV, more like SWG).
Has both PVE (mainly) but has PVP (arena type fighting works).
Has a good grind to get to the high level.
After cap has been reach has different grinds. (EQ's AA points)
Limited Instancing. (not mandatory to have instancing, just if its used... its limited)
If there isn't a game, then so be it... and that's what I was afraid of, however if there are ones that come close feel free to put them too. Thanks.
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what kinda character progression ? level or skill based...?
crafting ? how complicated ? useful ?...
and since you're a group of friends do you each have pretty much your own rolls or do ya mix it up a little bit ?
do graphics matter ?
how much depth do you like in your game ?
does community matter ?
these are all very important factors in choosing a new game for myself.
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1. All type, Grinding via mobs is best, questing is secondary.
2. Not sure what you mean here. Skill based as in player skill? Character progression via leveling up and gaining abilities.
3. Crafting isn't an issue, we're not big crafters.
4. We have our own rolls (I'm usually crowd control) but we can adapt. (we've played SWG both Pre and Post NGE)
5. Graphics do matter to a degree. Like I said... I don't want cartoonie but I don't want text either.
6. The more depth the better... that's a very broad question you asked so you'll have to get a broad answer.
"these are all very important factors in choosing a new game for myself."
Try doing it for 5 people...
Well for major PvP I'd say something like Lineage 2.. but these games are old and you'll get ganked out the wahoo.
The truth is there is a limited amount of games out that would actually be fun to play and not old as the hills.
Honestly though you don't like the graphics at first WOW is your best bet for fun in a group of people.
Been there done that myself many times lol.
I'd recommend LOTRO but if you guys are power gamers expect to get maybe a month of entertainment out of it.,. though there is a lot of things like monsterplay to keep you occupied.
Currently waiting for - Perfect World English, Age of Conan
How to play Perfect World in english
Currently messing with - Requiem Online
it's a very good level "grinder" with light questing & kickass pvp. the graphics are pretty amazing as well.
L2 could be a VERY fun game with a penta-tet.
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Do not hate it, but instead embrace the diversity.
Requirements:
Can't be cartoonie (sorry WoW is cartoonie). Check
Can't be owned by SOE. Check
Has to some Character development. (Think EQ). Check (sort of)
Has an actual inventory. (not like COV, more like SWG). Check
Has both PVE (mainly) but has PVP (arena type fighting works). PVE and PVMP (monster player) so check (sort of)
Has a good grind to get to the high level. I think so
After cap has been reach has different grinds. (EQ's AA points) check (see above pvmp)
Limited Instancing. (not mandatory to have instancing, just if its used... its limited) very check
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Do not hate it, but instead embrace the diversity.
Update/responses:
EQ2 we tried, didn't care for how they handled the instances. Whole towns were instanced if too many people got in one town. Horrible idea. Plus its owned by SOE so that two negatives against it.
FFXI looks well... like Final Fantasy, which is cartoonie some. But might be an option.
Lineage 2. I personally tired this game along with one other from the group... we loved it but there's one that hates PVP and believes PVP shouldn't be forced. So cause of that it fell by the wayside which is a shame too cause its a good overall game.
Haven't tried LOTR's kinda though it looked like WoW (not to offend) so we stayed away.
Archlords is PVP and very limited character creation. But haven't tried it.
AO was tried out, some of us didn't care for the character models (they're odd looking), plus dungeon level caps on certain areas. I loved the cyper-punk feel to the game, the bigger cities felt alive.
In the context of MMOs instancing is taking players out of the shared world and putting them into a private world.
One of the advantages of not making a game seamless is that you can fire up multiple copies of an overloaded zone so it you dont ruin the players experience with lag and the strip-mining of all the mobs people need for their various quests and advancement. This is *not* MMO instancing because these are still shared environments.
Requirements:
Can't be cartoonie (sorry WoW is cartoonie). *check*
Can't be owned by SOE. *check*
Has to some Character development. (Think EQ). (don't know EQ's char development so I can't tell)
Has an actual inventory. (not like COV, more like SWG). *check*
Has both PVE (mainly) but has PVP (arena type fighting works). *uncheck* L2 is FFA PvP
Has a good grind to get to the high level. *check* It actually has more grind than you could ever dream of
After cap has been reach has different grinds. (EQ's AA points) *uncheck*
Limited Instancing. (not mandatory to have instancing, just if its used... its limited) *check*
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Playing: Final Fantasy Online: ARR, Destiny
Most memorable games for me: UO, GW1, LoTRO
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"This is *not* MMO instancing because these are still shared environments." - This is your opinion... to me its instancing. But reguardless, EQ2 is owned by SOE. Which we're trying to get away from for numerous reasons, of which I really don't want to get into cause it will end up in hijacking my own thread (if that's possible.
Thanks so much for those that have replied so far... keep them coming.
And besides, that's just world PvP. There is arena combat, as well as castle sieges. And when you compare the amount you'll be PvPing to the amount you'll be grinding, it's not like it'll come up THAT often (unless you're in a clan that really hates another clan and vice versa).
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Well, I don't mean to disrespect or anything, but if you did read the two paragraphs I typed, you'd see that Lineage 2 could be a viable option if you explain to him the mechanics of the PvP. And sucking it up was just a harsh way to say, maybe he should just give it a chance instead of rejecting it right away.
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"Io rido, e rider mio non passa dentro;
Io ardo, e l'arsion mia non par di fore."
-Machiavelli
Perhaps you could give the trial for Ryzom a try.
As of this morning they have raised the level caps for trial players for a forthnight.
Although I'm not to sure if the artstyle would be fully acceptable to you.
Eitherway, it can't be to bad to at least look at it.
Good luck in your search.
A game you guys may want to keep you eye on is Tabula Rasa, that also seems to fit your requirements.
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