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I want a new EVE game :(

Its "too late" to start playing EVE :( 



And its about time a new space-mmorpg comes out!  EVE 2 or other
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,078
    Nonsense, I just started playing EVE last month, and already have a plan laid out for the coming year on the goals I wish to accomplish in that time.  OK, i won't be flying Capitols, but there's still plenty of good combat fun to be had I'm thinking....

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  • nightboy42nightboy42 Member Posts: 10
    Still its about time a new space MMO comes out ^^



    Open a new universe and new ideas.
  • remusus03remusus03 Member UncommonPosts: 88
    Well i wud say i EVE is a little too late  to play as if u knew the real story behind it but anwyas infinity will be the next game to play   a game that wud re-define Space MMO"s once again
  • remusus03remusus03 Member UncommonPosts: 88

    Here's the link to the infinity thingy =)

     

    http://fl-tw.com/Infinity/

  • mindw0rkmindw0rk Member UncommonPosts: 1,356
    Why would anyone who didnt even try EVE say "I want other game with more features"? Do you people realise that EVE has endless content due to players driven economy/politics/deeds? And this game is still at early stage because developers have tons of plans for future.

    Infinity is ok and made by talented programmer but its far from "A" class MMORPG. Its just a hobby for a guys who works on it at free time
  • macumbabrmacumbabr Member Posts: 76
    i agree with you, when i started to play again i realized that there were a lot of people too much more strong than me and the jobs given are a little boring along with the travel that takes too much of our time, so i started to search for a game of the same kind but it doenst have any, so it would be a good idea to make a new game, could be EVE 2 because making expasions wont take the boring away, it will just make new kinds of boring fights.

    IF PUSHED KILLING IS AS EASY AS BREATHING

  • SoraellionSoraellion Member UncommonPosts: 558

    It's not too late to start playing EVE, if you REALLY feel that way (as in, you don't want things to come to you easy, free and without effort) you haven't at all understood what EVE is all about.

    EVE is an equal opportunity environment, it favors the prepared, the smart and the tacticians, it does NOT favour the rich.

  • remusus03remusus03 Member UncommonPosts: 88
    i played eve for 1 year , if u hold a poll people wud  agree SP makes a huge difference and the older players usaully stays ahead no matter wat , from tactical point of view u can try and make differences but not too much takes too much of hard efforts not the the least...the major corps ask for SP limitations  even thebest Corps do that kinda explains the effect of SP requirement like 10 mil SP  and all wich takes months unlesss ur a using a Alternate account with +4 implants and start of the trainign thats a anohter case but by normal means ...way too long to get settled quickly
  • pompey606pompey606 Member UncommonPosts: 439
    when i left eve i felt like this.... i tried space cowboy but that only kept my space ship senses tingling for a short time... im not sure what id make of eve if i went back... just hope there is a new mmo that will fill that hole

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  • nightboy42nightboy42 Member Posts: 10
    Ehm did i ever say that i havnt tried it? I have tried it, for 2 months. But its not enough to get good. And i cant, wont be able to keep up with the guys with battlcruisers. Not in money, experience, skills.
  • ImixZinzImixZinz Member CommonPosts: 553
    What about Pirates of the Burning Sea? no spaceships... but it does seem very Eve-ish
  • BluefixBluefix Member Posts: 166
    Originally posted by remusus03

    i played eve for 1 year , if u hold a poll people wud  agree SP makes a huge difference and the older players usaully stays ahead no matter wat , from tactical point of view u can try and make differences but not too much takes too much of hard efforts not the the least...the major corps ask for SP limitations  even thebest Corps do that kinda explains the effect of SP requirement like 10 mil SP  and all wich takes months unlesss ur a using a Alternate account with +4 implants and start of the trainign thats a anohter case but by normal means ...way too long to get settled quickly
    "people" would be wrong. It's a common misconception and if you have played for 1 year you should know that. Sure high SP players often stay ahead, but it's experience and wealth that causes this, not sp, and those 2 factors are up to the player.

    I also heard that it was impossible to catch up when I started, but by now I have caught up with most. Perhaps not in SP, but  it doesn't matter as all further training is diversification and not giving me any significant advantage.

  • PrumbaPrumba Member UncommonPosts: 65
    Originally posted by nightboy42

    Its "too late" to start playing EVE :( 



    And its about time a new space-mmorpg comes out!  EVE 2 or other
    If you say its "too late" as in catching up with veteran players you're wrong. Skillpoint wise they will always have an edge but that does not make them better. It is 100% possible for "newbie" to defeat a vet given the right timing and tactics. What people fail to understand is that EVE isn't like other MMOs where your entire power is based on XP. Join a corporation early on, and you will soon see that its not too late to join.



    And yes I'd welcome any new space-mmo but EVE (espceciallly with upcoming Revelations III) still has lots of life in it.
  • TuutobTuutob Member Posts: 607
    STARPORT



    www.starportgame.com
  • JADEDRAG0NJADEDRAG0N Member Posts: 733
    Originally posted by Tuutob

    STARPORT



    www.starportgame.com
  • Ammon777Ammon777 Member Posts: 308
    Colony Studios is making one but its not coming out until 2009-2010.
  • JADEDRAG0NJADEDRAG0N Member Posts: 733
    Yea thats the problem isant it EvE has been out for 4+ years now and is firmly established. And all of the other sci-fi space games in development are still a long time till ready giving EvE more years to get better. So when a new game based in space comes out it will have to be something REALLY special just to have an effect on EvE.
  • vajurasvajuras Member Posts: 2,860
    starport ftw if you dont mind 2d graphics
  • DrafellDrafell Member Posts: 588


    Originally posted by Soraellion
    EVE is an equal opportunity environment, it favors the prepared, the smart and the tacticians, it does NOT favour the rich.

    Remind me exactly what is equal about a skill system where, no matter how much effort you put into playing the game, it is impossible to catch up and be competitive against a player who has been there for a year or so longer than you.

  • PhelanLPhelanL Member Posts: 99
    Buying and selling characters for isk is allowed in EvE.  So it is literally possible to catch up to the vets by buying a character.



    Asside from that, it isn't too late to build up a character the old fashioned way.  The mainstay of eve combat is, and will always be, the battleship.  It is fairly easy to get into a battleship with decent skills within a reasonable amount of time.



    More important than "catching up" is finding a good corp.  Isk and SP are cheap, the real key to "catching up" is knowledge and experience.

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  • SoraellionSoraellion Member UncommonPosts: 558
    Originally posted by Drafell


     

    Originally posted by Soraellion

    EVE is an equal opportunity environment, it favors the prepared, the smart and the tacticians, it does NOT favour the rich.

     

    Remind me exactly what is equal about a skill system where, no matter how much effort you put into playing the game, it is impossible to catch up and be competitive against a player who has been there for a year or so longer than you.

     

    Because you fail to understand that you can only use so much SP when flying a frigate, or a cruiser or any single ship. The ONLY thing that SP gives you is bigger ships and the ability to fly more types of ships. If you REALLY think that the game is about getting to the biggest ship asap and that small ships are useless, if you REALLY feel that it's SP that makes you money, it's SP that gets you wins, then you have failed to understand the idea of EVE.

    ANYONE can become filthy rich without EVER mining, ratting or doing missions, it's just that those 3 are the easy, no brainer approach to it. EVE is about seeing an opportinity and grasping it. If you keep thinking up excuses why you can 'never catch up' then, again, you have not understood EVE at all. It's NOT about having the biggest ship at all, it's NOT about having the most SP, it's about using the right ship for the right target using the right tactics, with the right friends and having focussed SP to do so.

    Besides, I thought MMO's were a long term thing, if I want short term pewpew I'll play Battlefield. MMO's with too easily attainable goals lose their appeal too easily.

  • LonewolfLonewolf Member UncommonPosts: 252
    Originally posted by Soraellion

    Because you fail to understand that you can only use so much SP when flying a frigate, or a cruiser or any single ship. The ONLY thing that SP gives you is bigger ships and the ability to fly more types of ships. If you REALLY think that the game is about getting to the biggest ship asap and that small ships are useless, if you REALLY feel that it's SP that makes you money, it's SP that gets you wins, then you have failed to understand the idea of EVE.
    ANYONE can become filthy rich without EVER mining, ratting or doing missions, it's just that those 3 are the easy, no brainer approach to it. EVE is about seeing an opportinity and grasping it. If you keep thinking up excuses why you can 'never catch up' then, again, you have not understood EVE at all. It's NOT about having the biggest ship at all, it's NOT about having the most SP, it's about using the right ship for the right target using the right tactics, with the right friends and having focussed SP to do so.
    Besides, I thought MMO's were a long term thing, if I want short term pewpew I'll play Battlefield. MMO's with too easily attainable goals lose their appeal too easily.


    What Sora actually said is completely right, if i max out all frigate related skills and ones that contribute to it, then anyone even if they are 4yr veterans can do no more than that, they only have MORE CHOICE on what they can fly and what they can do with their character that is the ONLY difference in amount of SP, that I can see.



    I only just started playing Eve and even though I have a piddling 900k SP I still find myself enjoying the game and excited about the possibility of flying new ships, getting into pirating etc etc



    Eve is something you enjoy long term, which for me makes a nice change, I played most MMORPG's and being a hardcore gamer reach endgame so quickly I get terribly bored and find I am paying subscription for just running round a city, like Ironforge in WoW, at least Eve will keep my attention for a long time. And while I am at work I AM LEARNING SKILLS WOOHOO
  • remusus03remusus03 Member UncommonPosts: 88
    Originally posted by Bluefix

    Originally posted by remusus03

    i played eve for 1 year , if u hold a poll people wud  agree SP makes a huge difference and the older players usaully stays ahead no matter wat , from tactical point of view u can try and make differences but not too much takes too much of hard efforts not the the least...the major corps ask for SP limitations  even thebest Corps do that kinda explains the effect of SP requirement like 10 mil SP  and all wich takes months unlesss ur a using a Alternate account with +4 implants and start of the trainign thats a anohter case but by normal means ...way too long to get settled quickly
    "people" would be wrong. It's a common misconception and if you have played for 1 year you should know that. Sure high SP players often stay ahead, but it's experience and wealth that causes this, not sp, and those 2 factors are up to the player.

    I also heard that it was impossible to catch up when I started, but by now I have caught up with most. Perhaps not in SP, but  it doesn't matter as all further training is diversification and not giving me any significant advantage.



    The very reason i played eve long enough becoz everyon who supported that SP dint make much of difference i played the game for it coz SP dint make much but then i tried the best tactics under different occasions in fleet battles and under different occasions with knowledge and wealth supporting it but it still failed me it requires way too much hardwork to gain wealth  unless ur in 0.0 space wher the fun is happening but then 0.0 space is usally  infested with  Group of  High SP guys , the corps that HAS made a difference has alllways 90% of them having really really loads of SP points..the only other low SP corp that i noticed was Agony trying to show that SP doesnt make much Differene but then after noticing their tactics werent any different from wat  we used but in short found out that NUMBERS was the only way to over come...small ships / fast but out running the tracking of the turrets and missile blast radius but all in all u need large numbers but if they come with the same numbers  they wud have almsot evry edge T-2 fully loaded and faction equipped bascially most of them cover up every aspect counter attacking small ships and so on in short u can never face them head on the only that works effectively hit and run , attacking them when they are outnumberd and expecting them to be in a RAT setup or something , planning takes a long time if ur gona pull out some major stuff like that while the High SP guys can lay back and still hold the upper front .

    I have also noticed many PVP corps always say they fight outnumberd and win battles but doesnt make much sense when they attack low SP guys with crap ships and even if these low SP guys work hard try differnt ways new tactics , strategies involved its almost impossible to face up agaisnt them , i had been monitoring killboards , videos and loads of stuff related towards  things like that by an estimation i noticed almsot 100% of the people who lost where the low SP guys unless they had some good large numbers to completely overwhelm the enemy.

     

    Oh just read few more previous posts its true u need knowledge but doesnt that mean the previous player wud also have the same amount of knowledge? and talking about a 4 year guy no doubt he can just bring in a carrier and dump there =)...watcha ya gona do? wait all day long untill he comes out witha frigate vs frigate to get a  fair chance? most of the big PVP corps have Super caps and loads and loads of Cap ships u may come with a 100 BS fleet only to get jumped by a CAP fleet of 50-60 with faction mod ..and u know faction stuff costs billions..and getting a billion of a isk isnt that easy unless u get lucky with oppurnities at the right time..and again "right tactics" ...hmm the Higher SP wud allready be knowing Counter -tactics if at all the low sp guy wud try and  counter his tactic..coz he has been in the game longer , has more knowledge , more PVP experience , knows when to attack when not to if at all they come in nunbers dumpa  cap ship fleet , hold the major systems that make gives u most of the iskies (0.0 /low secs) , and if ur in High-Sec space..war dec. them so they cant do missions evetually they can monopolise the market get the most of the iskies.

  • RymdkejsarenRymdkejsaren Member Posts: 78
    I want a game system like EVEs that combines realtime skill training with offline skill training, and that is not based, or at least not based solely in space. I love the EVE playerdriven storyline, economy and I like the skill system. I just do not like flying around in space all the time, the only thing that changes being the colour of the space around you.
  • remusus03remusus03 Member UncommonPosts: 88
    Originally posted by Rymdkejsaren

    I want a game system like EVEs that combines realtime skill training with offline skill training, and that is not based, or at least not based solely in space. I love the EVE playerdriven storyline, economy and I like the skill system. I just do not like flying around in space all the time, the only thing that changes being the colour of the space around you.
    well offline skill training wud usally make the older players always stay ahead of u though in Skill Points except u may work harder and get the wealth part of it done.
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