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  • NewmeanieNewmeanie Member Posts: 149
    im not saying you shudnt hype it, i just dont want people hyping it cuz of blind "I love WoWness" I Mean Granted the game looks good, im not saying its CRAP it deserves a good hype and i know for a FACT it will be a successful game, but i dont like the mindless Pro-WAR thats going on, just my vent
  • flood950flood950 Member Posts: 447
    Originally posted by Newmeanie

    intersted in finding out what the mature rating will do to subscriptions not only to AoC but to WAR and WoW and many other games where people constantly complain about Barrens chats
    My guess is nothing.  Went to a rated "R" movie a few weeks ago, parents had very young (probably around 6 - 8yrs) children with them.



    Worked at a video store in my young days that enforced the rental policy, parents would go in with kids to rent them whatever they wanted and hand the tape over to them in the parking lot.



    Half of the video game stores out there dont even pay attention when they are selling a game.



    Most parents are not even aware of how much time children spend playing games, I doubt they will look carefully at the screen when playing this game and stop the account.  Hitting alt-tab isnt that hard either. 





    I doubt its going to do anything...  if anything the younger players are going to want to play just because of the semi-taboo rating...just like they use to sneak into rated R movies.
  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188
    Originally posted by flood950

    Originally posted by ronan32

    it actually does represent the age of conan community..the forums are just full of.."this is my game and anything you say will be shot down" type of people..half the time they are bashing war..i dont find the game interesting and i have no love for the community
    I think the game looks interesting but the additude I am seeing is driving me away.  Just comments about how WAR must be ranked high by WoW lovers, WAR copied WoW's graphics (which is just ignorant) and now complaining about the hype...c'mon, its a game.  So what if another is ranked higher, if you like it, great, what does that have to do with where it is on a list where people admittedly vote with multiple accounts...makes zero sense to me.

     

    Draws attention to this poster: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/134674

    and again: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/134680

     

    Immaturity is on both sides.

    Hey we all know WoW copied WAR's theme, and WAR copied D&D elements 25 yrs ago, which copied Tolkien.

    Conan's lore is 75 yrs old this year....

    Each camp has its lovers and haters and comparisons will always be drawn upon, especially when games look similar.

     

    Both games have different target audiencies



  • defenestratedefenestrate Member CommonPosts: 578
    Originally posted by Newmeanie

    im not saying you shudnt hype it, i just dont want people hyping it cuz of blind "I love WoWness" I Mean Granted the game looks good, im not saying its CRAP it deserves a good hype and i know for a FACT it will be a successful game, but i dont like the mindless Pro-WAR thats going on, just my vent
    What the hell is wrong with Pro-WARness? This site is just as full of PRO-AOCness as well, so what do you have to say about them? Just because fans of one game are looking forward to another game is no reason to be a hater and whine about hype meters.
  • ElgarethElgareth Member Posts: 588
    I guess the Voters decide which Game deserves which Hype.

    So I guess the Voters decided that WAR is more interesting than AoC, generally.



    I myself hyped WAR higher than AoC, simply because WAR will be a guaranteed hit, while AoC will be either a great success, or a horrible failure. (M rating, new Combat/Spell System...all things not tested before, noone knows how it'll play out in the end).

    So while I can safely wait on the hit WAR, I'll have to watch the first weeks of AoC closely, before I can decide if it really delivers what it promised.
  • defenestratedefenestrate Member CommonPosts: 578
    Originally posted by AmazingAvery

    Originally posted by flood950

    Originally posted by ronan32

    it actually does represent the age of conan community..the forums are just full of.."this is my game and anything you say will be shot down" type of people..half the time they are bashing war..i dont find the game interesting and i have no love for the community
    I think the game looks interesting but the additude I am seeing is driving me away.  Just comments about how WAR must be ranked high by WoW lovers, WAR copied WoW's graphics (which is just ignorant) and now complaining about the hype...c'mon, its a game.  So what if another is ranked higher, if you like it, great, what does that have to do with where it is on a list where people admittedly vote with multiple accounts...makes zero sense to me.

     

    Draws attention to this poster: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/134674

    and again: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/thread/134680

    Immaturity is on both sides.

    Hey we all know WoW copied WAR's theme, and WAR copied D&D elements 25 yrs ago, which copied Tolkien.

    Conan's lore is 75 yrs old this year....

    Each camp has its lovers and haters and comparisons will always be drawn upon, especially when games look similar.

     

    Both games have different target audiencies

    WHats planetside got to do with anything? must be a misprint.
  • airborne519airborne519 Member Posts: 542

    Not to flame, but I guess I am... Who gives a flying_____ what the game's hype rating is?  If it's a game your interested in, play it, judge it, and rate it if you feel the need. 

    I guess I am unique, but I could care less what others think about this game.  It looks great, it's something that I'm interested in, and plan on subscribing.  I would suggest not focusing in on what others think... Ban Lemmings!

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  • flood950flood950 Member Posts: 447
    Originally posted by airborne519


    Not to flame, but I guess I am... Who cares what the game's hype rating is?  If it's a game your interested in, play it, judge it, and rate it if you feel the need. 
    I guess I am unique, but I could care less what others think about this game.  It looks great, it's something that I'm interested in, and plan on subscribing.  I would suggest not focusing in on what others think... Ban Lemmings!
    Its not unique, I am the same way.



    I feel like there is a mentality out there where people want the game that they choose to play (or plan on playing) to be the most popular...for whatever unknown reason.



    As long as there are enough people to group with in my game, I am happy :)
  • HengistHengist Member RarePosts: 1,316

    Geez guys....get off it already.

    Six months from now when everyone is playing their game of choice and having fun, is it really going to matter how or what the game was hyped? (oh wait....WAR fans are going to have to wait longer, arent they? hehe, so make it a year, and yes, I'm joking around here...)

    If you like what you are playing, and it's got 100k subscribers are you going to be angry or hate another game that has 500k subscribers? Will it really matter to you everytime you log in?

    Just kick back and enjoy the time, WAR and AoC both have some strong points, and some solid fans, doesnt mean we cant get along. We just like different stuff,that's all.

  • HengistHengist Member RarePosts: 1,316


    Originally posted by Elgareth


    I myself hyped WAR higher than AoC, simply because WAR will be a guaranteed hit, while AoC will be either a great success, or a horrible failure. (M rating, new Combat/Spell System...all things not tested before, noone knows how it'll play out in the end).
    So while I can safely wait on the hit WAR, I'll have to watch the first weeks of AoC closely, before I can decide if it really delivers what it promised.



    Prime example of someone who doesnt get it.

    Presenting your opinion as fact always makes it so. It's just your opinion, and it's no more valid than the next guys opinion.

    You like what you like, and you dont like what you dont...end of story.

  • airborne519airborne519 Member Posts: 542
    Originally posted by flood950

    Originally posted by airborne519


    Not to flame, but I guess I am... Who cares what the game's hype rating is?  If it's a game your interested in, play it, judge it, and rate it if you feel the need. 
    I guess I am unique, but I could care less what others think about this game.  It looks great, it's something that I'm interested in, and plan on subscribing.  I would suggest not focusing in on what others think... Ban Lemmings!
    Its not unique, I am the same way.



    I feel like there is a mentality out there where people want the game that they choose to play (or plan on playing) to be the most popular...for whatever unknown reason.



    As long as there are enough people to group with in my game, I am happy :)

    hehe :) that does make a difference. I truly believe this game doesn't need hype from this website for it to be a hit.  This game will definately stand on its' own.

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  • HengistHengist Member RarePosts: 1,316


    Originally posted by airborne519
    Originally posted by flood950
    Originally posted by airborne519 Not to flame, but I guess I am... Who cares what the game's hype rating is?  If it's a game your interested in, play it, judge it, and rate it if you feel the need. 
    I guess I am unique, but I could care less what others think about this game.  It looks great, it's something that I'm interested in, and plan on subscribing.  I would suggest not focusing in on what others think... Ban Lemmings!
    Its not unique, I am the same way.

    I feel like there is a mentality out there where people want the game that they choose to play (or plan on playing) to be the most popular...for whatever unknown reason.

    As long as there are enough people to group with in my game, I am happy :)



    hehe :) that does make a difference. I truly believe this game doesn't need hype from this website for it to be a hit.  This game will definately stand on its' own.


    Hehe, slightly off-topic, but wasnt Vanguard's hype right around the 7.3 level at release as well? Case in point of hype not really mattering a bit.

  • airborne519airborne519 Member Posts: 542
    Originally posted by Baikal


     

    Originally posted by airborne519


    Originally posted by flood950


    Originally posted by airborne519
     
    Not to flame, but I guess I am... Who cares what the game's hype rating is?  If it's a game your interested in, play it, judge it, and rate it if you feel the need. 

    I guess I am unique, but I could care less what others think about this game.  It looks great, it's something that I'm interested in, and plan on subscribing.  I would suggest not focusing in on what others think... Ban Lemmings!



    Its not unique, I am the same way.

     

    I feel like there is a mentality out there where people want the game that they choose to play (or plan on playing) to be the most popular...for whatever unknown reason.

    As long as there are enough people to group with in my game, I am happy :)





    hehe :) that does make a difference. I truly believe this game doesn't need hype from this website for it to be a hit.  This game will definately stand on its' own.

     



    Hehe, slightly off-topic, but wasnt Vanguard's hype right around the 7.3 level at release as well? Case in point of hype not really mattering a bit.



    Very true. 

    I think the game's actual rating after release is a bit more reflective on how people feel about a game.  The hype is somewhat useless.

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  • XennithXennith Member Posts: 1,244
    Originally posted by Newmeanie

    im not saying you shudnt hype it, i just dont want people hyping it cuz of blind "I love WoWness" I Mean Granted the game looks good, im not saying its CRAP it deserves a good hype and i know for a FACT it will be a successful game, but i dont like the mindless Pro-WAR thats going on, just my vent
    you dont like the mindless pro-WAR, but you dont mind mindless anti-WARness? you have this thing about WAR = WoW which is quite sweet really, like when a small child asks if the sea is there because someone left the tap on.



    heres the thing, you guys are obsessed with WAR, the WAR boards here are full of you guys trolling, the general boards are full of you guys going on about how WAR is a WoW clone.



    Half of you spend more time talking about WAR than you do AoC. just get over it, talk about AoC instead maybe? why not tell people about AoC's good features, like casters being sent to hell randomly (speaking of which, could i accidently cut off my own foot?) instead of talking about WAR.
  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188
    Originally posted by Xennith

    Originally posted by Newmeanie

    im not saying you shudnt hype it, i just dont want people hyping it cuz of blind "I love WoWness" I Mean Granted the game looks good, im not saying its CRAP it deserves a good hype and i know for a FACT it will be a successful game, but i dont like the mindless Pro-WAR thats going on, just my vent
    you dont like the mindless pro-WAR, but you dont mind mindless anti-WARness? you have this thing about WAR = WoW which is quite sweet really, like when a small child asks if the sea is there because someone left the tap on.



    heres the thing, you guys are obsessed with WAR, the WAR boards here are full of you guys trolling, the general boards are full of you guys going on about how WAR is a WoW clone.



    Half of you spend more time talking about WAR than you do AoC. just get over it, talk about AoC instead maybe? why not tell people about AoC's good features, like casters being sent to hell randomly (speaking of which, could i accidently cut off my own foot?) instead of talking about WAR.

    No offense but WAR boards are full of WAR = WoW2, most of us here don't agree with that. Not to mention WAR fans posting AoC's devs views - like wtf has that goto do with anything, and read the two links I put further up for WAR fans coming to AoC boards to BAIT for arguments. The only people obsessed with WAR are WAR fans. Its when you get immature postings that conflict arises because of some people's lack of knowledge to rise above and look past it. Browse thru the first 3 pages of thread titles in each board to see. This topic was on about hype rating which have already been discussed. You decided to troll here to give your say right - how does that help? Like I said the topics with lame baiting comes from WAR fans mainly in this section. Of course people are entitled to defend whatever they like. Hype is pointless.



  • XennithXennith Member Posts: 1,244
    if you think im trolling and want to dismiss my concerns and comments as such then that is your perogative. but if you think that was trolling, for the love of god never set foot in the WAR forums, you'd have to invent a new word for what goes on in there.
  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188
    Originally posted by Xennith

    if you think im trolling and want to dismiss my concerns and comments as such then that is your perogative. but if you think that was trolling, for the love of god never set foot in the WAR forums, you'd have to invent a new word for what goes on in there.



    I think that if your so concerned about people making comparisons you shouldn't of popped over and added fuel to the fire in your first post. Of course your entitled to your say but what I'm getting at is how does what you said help the situation that your initially complaining about? It doesn't. You generalise and it looks like your looking for an argument which I why I said the word "troll".

    The fact is both games are made for different markets.  The hype is what this particular community feels.

    If you was to read this section you would know plenty of features of AoC are talked about - hence the troll word again.

    Btw im sorry for saying the troll word ok! It was slack on my part.

    Birmingham City FTW!



  • spartan33spartan33 Member Posts: 42
    Originally posted by ASmith84


    i agree this game should be the best mmo when it comes out.  it has new and original stuff in it. the graphics are detailed and different. it is not cartoony like wow and warhammer.

    the combat is new with less calculations and more skill. build your own town and defend it. take over outposts and get blood money. it has drunken boxing how cool is that a purpose to get drunk now.  plus its rated m which means blood and stuff. 
    before you guys start defending warhammer look at it.  it looks almost identical to wow.  maybe it isnt but it looks, feels, and plays like it.  if they been workin on it for so long why didnt they change it to be different?  plus the previous rts games of it were bloody and brutal with good noncartoony graphics what the hell happen?
    the voting on this site makes no sense.  im guessing some people just like to get alot of people to vote for a random game for no reason and screw up the other ones.  if you have that much free time on your hands i feel sorry for you.
    a) "it is not cartoony like wow and warhammer."

    Hmm... maybe because most things that dealt with warhammer and its lore in the past have been cartoony.... it might make sense that WAR would be cartoony... just a thought



    b)" it looks almost identical to wow.  maybe it isnt"  Wait LOL so is it or isn't it identical to WoW? This is pretty much your argument.



    c) "
    but it looks, feels, and plays like it." 

    looks- I'm sorry they're sticking to their lore, blast them!

    feel- so when did you get into WAR beta, if  at all?

    play - So you did get into WAR beta?!



    d) if they been workin on it for so long why didnt they change it to be different?

    Because its called lore and GW. And if they tried to go against the lore, GW would have canned the project.



    e) plus the previous rts games of it were bloody and brutal with good noncartoony graphics what the hell happen?

    Ok bud those were RTS's, were on MMORPG.COM



    f) Yes, voting on a random game. One of the most hyped MMO's in development... a random game. Just like those 200,000 random people who signed up for beta in the first 10 days.





    p.s. I have enough MMO love to go around, and I'm gonna play AoC and WAR, without needlessy bashing either one.





  • JetrpgJetrpg Member UncommonPosts: 2,347
    Originally posted by Baikal


     
    The fact that it's so close, just indicates that Age of Conan is reaching well beyond it's fan base, and past the AO launch. Not sure that Warhammer has gone far beyond that base audience. That being said, I have little doubt that Warhammer will have a huge amount of subscribers, and could easily be the 2nd largest MMO in the US in a very short amount of time after it releases.
     
    Please read this and think ?



    "Not sure that Warhammer has gone far beyond that base audience"



    "
    That being said, I have little doubt that Warhammer will have a huge amount of subscribers, and could easily be the 2nd largest MMO in the US in a very short amount of time after it releases."



    The WArhammer base audience would not even push WAR to 2nd ... thus your first statement or your second is wrong. (IE they are conflicting).



    I liked Warhammer the table top game ok but never got into it was a battletech player, that being said i will play WAr and most people on the WAr forums seem to be mmoers not tabletoppers.



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  • HengistHengist Member RarePosts: 1,316


    Originally posted by Jetrpg

    Originally posted by Baikal

     
    The fact that it's so close, just indicates that Age of Conan is reaching well beyond it's fan base, and past the AO launch. Not sure that Warhammer has gone far beyond that base audience. That being said, I have little doubt that Warhammer will have a huge amount of subscribers, and could easily be the 2nd largest MMO in the US in a very short amount of time after it releases.
     


    Please read this and think ?

    "Not sure that Warhammer has gone far beyond that base audience"

    "That being said, I have little doubt that Warhammer will have a huge amount of subscribers, and could easily be the 2nd largest MMO in the US in a very short amount of time after it releases."

    The WArhammer base audience would not even push WAR to 2nd ... thus your first statement or your second is wrong. (IE they are conflicting).



    It's core base right now is where it's at, and hasnt made inroads into other areas beyond it's strongholds. (my opinion based on what I've seen, read, and observed)

    After release I fully expect it to make those inroads into other types of gamers who may not have been interested in the game. I.E.- People are going to like it, pass the word to their friends and they'll try it. (my opinion based on what I've seen, read, and observed)

    Do you need a more detailed roadmap to figure out how it does not conflict, or did you deliberately misunderstand it? Sorry, I'm just kind of amazed someone could be so obtuse.

  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188
    Originally posted by Newmeanie

    A 7.3 is crap hype for this game, it deserves much higher, and it does not deserve to be under Warhammer.  IF youve been following the development of both games, youll notice this one has much more to offer that is different than other MMOs, Warhammer is pretty much the same ol same ol
    "What is not to love about this game?"

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  • fauxhallfauxhall Member Posts: 132
    Originally posted by AmazingAvery

    Originally posted by Newmeanie

    A 7.3 is crap hype for this game, it deserves much higher, and it does not deserve to be under Warhammer.  IF youve been following the development of both games, youll notice this one has much more to offer that is different than other MMOs, Warhammer is pretty much the same ol same ol
    "What is not to love about this game?"

    MMORPG: (Winner: Most anticipated MMO of 2006)

     

    What i dont love about it is.......how far it is till it goes live.

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  • goingwyldegoingwylde Member Posts: 141
    I have to say  I was  pretty impressed how much Age Of Conan has started the advertising blitz pre-game.  They had a huge booth at Dragon-con in a primespot with handouts, replicas of Conan's sword / throne, etc.  Played some demos there, got a lot of questions answered, and the crew was very friendly.  The only reason I can think of Warhammer may have a stronger hype is that it was born in the gaming communities and people have played it in different versions/mediums for years.  Conan may be more visible due to the movies and books, but in a gamer's forum, established games would seem to have the edge.
  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188
    Originally posted by goingwylde

    I have to say  I was  pretty impressed how much Age Of Conan has started the advertising blitz pre-game.  They had a huge booth at Dragon-con in a primespot with handouts, replicas of Conan's sword / throne, etc.  Played some demos there, got a lot of questions answered, and the crew was very friendly.  The only reason I can think of Warhammer may have a stronger hype is that it was born in the gaming communities and people have played it in different versions/mediums for years.  Conan may be more visible due to the movies and books, but in a gamer's forum, established games would seem to have the edge.

    I can't wait for all the things that will come out of E3 next month.

    They also just had a good presence at DreamHack in Sweden.

    Nice sig btw - I've got a kermit like that, that is 28 yrs old lol.



  • CelestianCelestian Member UncommonPosts: 1,136


    Originally posted by Newmeanie
    Originally posted by spartan33
    Originally posted by Newmeanie
    A 7.3 is crap hype for this game, it deserves much higher, and it does not deserve to be under Warhammer. IF youve been following the development of both games, youll notice this one has much more to offer that is different than other MMOs, Warhammer is pretty much the same ol same ol
    A well written post with lots of facts to support his argument!

    Im not going to write down every detail about both games. thats redundant. thanx for ur constructive criticism


    Because if you did you'd notice that AoC is gunna be just as "same ole same ole" as any other MMO.

    Woohoo, I get to upgrade to Vista and micro-managed targeting.

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