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crazyivencrazyiven Member Posts: 142
 Went to EB today just to look for this game have played ever mmo out there and still can find one i want to stay with. (played eve for 3+ years) But when I went to check out the guy said " you sure you want to get this this game is slow as hell"  So here I sit asking the question how slow is it?  I was just hoping it wasnt a button smashing game.  I know is bad maners to as but if someone does have a buddy key they dont want pm me, if i like ill get the box. Never huts to ask, just looking for the next thing to fill up the rest of my days.
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  • crazyivencrazyiven Member Posts: 142

    0 coments guess im glad i didnt get it

     

    n take it easy

  • mochipixelsmochipixels Member UncommonPosts: 144
    FFXI as a button masher?----Not even close^^  It is the furthest thing from it and a thoroughly engrossing mmo!



    FFXI is unlike most of the "softer" mmos out there today.   It forces you to work for your accomplishments, and work together with other people.  I started playing the day it was released for ps2 with the hard drive and everything.....played for two years and then quit for WOW and GW, COH and EVE.   However, those game became incredibly boring as the story and mythos for them was thin and seemed contrived just to keep you paying for the game.  



    Not saying that FFXI isn't run as part of a business plan (what mmo isn't) ^^ but square created a game with a deep, fascinating story that can hold it's own amongst  the Final Fantasy series. 



    The slow part that the EB dude was prob referring to was the partying......but it's a small annoyance. 

    If you played EVE for a while then I think you'd enjoy ffxi....it's not a carebear mmo like wow.....so you'll still be challenged like you were in EVE. 

    Square has also been doing a lot of work on keeping the RMT and other silliness from killing the game and I think it's better than ever.

    I came back to the game a few months ago for the third time, and have already found new fun people to party with even though most of my old friends are long gone.  And the best thing i found was how helpful the majority of the population is.  



    I would highly recommend picking up the Vana'diel Collection 2007 which contains all the expansions for like 20 bux and give it a whirl!  You get 30 days free and I think you'll enjoy it.  If you need any help or any other info...just pm me on here or send me a tell or message ingame.   I play on the Remora server under the name Eoin.  We've got a great linkshell (like a corporation) and love meeting new players!  Even after being out for 5 years......FFXI still reigns as one of the best mmos created! (in fact, the only one I really enjoyed besides FFXI was EVE!)



    GOOD LUCK!! AND HOPE TO SEE YOU IN VANA'DIEL!!
  • crazyivencrazyiven Member Posts: 142
    well thx for the reply, from what you have said ill giver her a go. Ill make sure i get on  remora and give you a holler.



     Thx for the reply ill pick it up tomorrow
  • elminseselminses Member UncommonPosts: 59
    it isn;t a great game bt it isn;t a bad game either, to me it is a game that you have to suited for. I enjoyed it when it came out but got tired of the combat system and the harsh death system. I was planning on returning to it but so many other games have been released that i have have never been able to get back into it.



    The only advice i can give you is to try and see for yourself since it is a game that takes a special taste to enjoy.
  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564
    Originally posted by crazyiven

     Went to EB today just to look for this game have played ever mmo out there and still can find one i want to stay with. (played eve for 3+ years) But when I went to check out the guy said " you sure you want to get this this game is slow as hell"  So here I sit asking the question how slow is it?  I was just hoping it wasnt a button smashing game.  I know is bad maners to as but if someone does have a buddy key they dont want pm me, if i like ill get the box. Never huts to ask, just looking for the next thing to fill up the rest of my days.
    Yep.. the "it's too slow" complaint.



    Basically, what people mean when they say that is this:



    "I can't get to level cap/end-game within a time period that I'd like, playing for ## hours every day, so it's too slow".



    Saying it's too slow as a generalization is meaningless, because the idea of "slow" is subjective. I happen to think FFXI is paced just right. I don't *want* a game that I can race through almost in spite of my efforts not to - ie. WoW and a few of the other so-called "casual-friendly" MMOs.



    FFXI is one of the few MMOs left that doesn't hold your hand, that does provide a real challenge and that does - gasp - actually take the "multiplayer" part seriously. I have to chuckle every time I see someone complain about a multi-player game not being soloable enough. It's like going into a motorcycle dealership and complaining that all the bikes only have two wheels. It makes no sense to me.



    The amount of content in the game is massive. It's an incredibly deep game with tons to do - and SE adds more on a regular basis. Look through FFXI's forums and you'll notice a very stark lack of a certain type of post that is rampant in many of the newer "casual friendly" MMOs.. That is, "I got to end-game and now there's nothing to do! Where's all the content?!". I know of people who've gotten through everything they *want* to in the game and simply can't find anything else that interests them. But I never hear people complaining about a lack of content, or of things to do overall. This is partially because the game is so vast in the first place. But it's also because, unlike those casual-friendly games, the game is actually a challenge and you can't simply race through it all. I know several people who've been there the 4 years since the NA launch, have gotten several jobs to 75, leveled a few crafts, done their share of FFXI's raid-type content... and they are *still* finding things to do.



    FFXI is funny, in a very deceiving way. Its depth is so unapparent at the beginning of the game. It seems extremely simple. The battle system is fairly simple. You can solo the mobs up to level 10 or so easily - in fact they're that way by design, to allow new players to get used to the game overall without throwing too much at them at once. However, do some research on the game, read some threads - especially job-specific ones.. Or listen to some episodes of limitbreakradio, listen to their guests talk about a given job, or some other aspect of FFXI in depth... and you will have an idea of just how deep this game really is. The point is.. don't let the seeming lack of depth at the beginning affect your impression of the game overall. The "massive" in MMORPG is well represented when it comes to FFXI. One only needs the time and desire to experience it.

    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
    - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • salemandersalemander Member Posts: 8

    FFXI was the best MMO i ever played. The only problem is that is very time consuming and I don't have the time to play it anymore... =(    No Button mashing and alot of staragy is involved.

  • crazyivencrazyiven Member Posts: 142
    Im glad im seeing these replies,  been looking to get into something good. Did like FF back on the ps1, The game is updateing as we speek. So hope to be in game soon
  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    I buy the game at it release.

     

    My computer back then was able to create account and character, unable to play...so I cancel for until I upgrade my computer.

     

    I try to log back in, since I never play, my account was completely, and totally deleted.  I was unable to restart anything, the code was wasted.  So even if I did purchase the game and NEVER play it, the answer I got was that I need to purchase it anew.

     

    Basically, Square Enix are thugs and thieves.

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

  • SuplyndmndSuplyndmnd Member Posts: 553
    Originally posted by Anofalye


    I buy the game at it release.
     
    My computer back then was able to create account and character, unable to play...so I cancel for until I upgrade my computer.
     
    I try to log back in, since I never play, my account was completely, and totally deleted.  I was unable to restart anything, the code was wasted.  So even if I did purchase the game and NEVER play it, the answer I got was that I need to purchase it anew.
     
    Basically, Square Enix are thugs and thieves.
    If you created the account, it's still there.  How long ago did you do this? Did you wait 2 years?  If so, then you get what you deserve.

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    FFXI - Shazamalicious
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  • crazyivencrazyiven Member Posts: 142
     Ok playing , would be nice if it could guide you a bit more. Im lost already, guess it will take a bit to find out what is what. And is there any way to get the game to look better? its very choppy, i usually have all games max out in the video side. Controls seem to be a pain, and keyboard lay is not very good. Guess it was more for console anyway.



     Anyone ave any ideas on making it look better? with settings in game or is it more of the window settings?



     never mind i found it,



     Can any one sugest a race and job for a noob that would be easy to learn the system?
  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564
    Originally posted by crazyiven

     Ok playing , would be nice if it could guide you a bit more. Im lost already, guess it will take a bit to find out what is what. And is there any way to get the game to look better? its very choppy, i usually have all games max out in the video side. Controls seem to be a pain, and keyboard lay is not very good. Guess it was more for console anyway.



     Anyone ave any ideas on making it look better? with settings in game or is it more of the window settings?



     never mind i found it,



     Can any one sugest a race and job for a noob that would be easy to learn the system?
    Hey there...



    I'll tackle each of your concerns here one at a time.



    First, as for the game guiding you more... It won't. FFXI, like all FF games, relies heavily on discovery and exploration... Being a MMO, interaction with other players is also very important, and SE takes that aspect very seriously. You'll find many things in FF are geared toward cooperating with others. It's one of the few MMOs out there that doesn't guide the player along, but leaves it up to them to discover and experience things for themselves This is one thing that I find those who stick with FFXI most enjoy about it. It's also one aspect that keep people coming back - I know it is in my case. It *is* a challenge - from level 1 until you decide to stop playing. It's overwhelming at the start, yes, but that's why the community in FFXI is so important, and overall, so awesome.



    Though you said you found it, I'll follow-up anyway. Might be helpful to someone else reading the thread :). There are graphics settings in  the FFXI config program ( I'm assuming you're playing on PC). Go into Start > Programs > PlayOnline > Final Fantasy XI, and there's a config program in there. You can customize the game to have a higher resolution as well as some other features to make it look better. Beyond that, there is a registry "hack" you can do on the PC to crank the overall resolution even higher. It won't make the textures any more crisp, but it makes the scene on-screen look much sharper.



    You're right in that FFXI was originally designed around console and ported to PC. In that way, it plays very well with a controller. However, there is an option in-game to change the keyboard layout to a somewhat more "FPS" type setup... the W,A,S,D keys and what not. If you press the minus key on your number pad, it'll bring up the main menu, press the - key a second time and it shows the second menu screen (or press the left or right arrow keys). You'll see a "Config" option. In there is a Misc and Misc2. Under one of those is a keyboard layout option. You can set it to "small" and that will give you a setup closer to the more common W,A,S,D setup. I use that setup and love it. I don't even touch my mouse. It is a very different system than other MMOs, but once you get used to it, it's second-nature.



    As for best job to play starting out? I'd say a melee job, like Warrior or Monk, or Thief to start. It'll help you get used to the battle system, controlling the character, etc. etc. etc.  As you play, you'll learn what jobs are better at what type of playstyles, and you'll eventually find one that suits you best.



    Take your time - there's alot to learn and by no means are you expected to learn it all "now".



    Enjoy!
















    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
    - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • crazyivencrazyiven Member Posts: 142
     i did find all the settings, and thx for all your input. I like the opened games very much, why i liked eve so much. I was able to get out and do some fighting, going to try to set up my zboard for the game, Im haven big trouble bounsing all over the keyboard and tryen to moven in the FF world.



     If I can fix that ill be good to go
  • mochipixelsmochipixels Member UncommonPosts: 144
    I second the fact that a controller is a good way to go.  I found the keyboard a little too tricky....and the game works so well with a controller.  I picked up the logitech controller and it's great!....highly recommended. 



    GOOD LUCK!! AND WELCOME TO VANA'DEIL!!
  • crazyivencrazyiven Member Posts: 142
     zboard dont have the FF on the full keybord just on the other deal they have. you would figure they would have all the key sets for all the main mmo out there . They would make more cash.



      Ok i have a microsoft one got it to work with one of the preset tabs, ohhh so much better
  • IbsterIbster Member Posts: 20
    I just started again yesterday and i found just switching the keyboard setting from normal to compact helped me out.
  • xcryonicxxcryonicx Member Posts: 82
    hmmm... controller eh? I remember playing this game like 3 years ago on a sub par PC and keyboard and with the sluggish framerates and control scheme it was frusterating. Now that I've upgraded big time and picked up a 360 for Windows gamepad I'm kinda tempted....



    does this game run in Vista?
  • SatimasuSatimasu Member UncommonPosts: 900
    Yes, it works on Vista... But, you must download a Vista version of POL off of their official website in order for it to work. That's what I had to do with the two laptops that unfortunately have Vista.

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  • thobawthobaw Member Posts: 14
    www.playonline.com/homeus/headline/news01.html





    This page should have info for downloading the Vista client.
  • drunkensoljadrunkensolja Member Posts: 71
    Originally posted by crazyiven

     i did find all the settings, and thx for all your input. I like the opened games very much, why i liked eve so much. I was able to get out and do some fighting, going to try to set up my zboard for the game, Im haven big trouble bounsing all over the keyboard and tryen to moven in the FF world.



     If I can fix that ill be good to go



     I use the xboox 360 controller for windows and it works great!

  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564

     

    Originally posted by Anofalye


    I buy the game at it release.
     
    My computer back then was able to create account and character, unable to play...so I cancel for until I upgrade my computer.
     
    I try to log back in, since I never play, my account was completely, and totally deleted.  I was unable to restart anything, the code was wasted.  So even if I did purchase the game and NEVER play it, the answer I got was that I need to purchase it anew.
     
    Basically, Square Enix are thugs and thieves.

     

    Thugs and thieves, eh? So, they like.. came to your home, roughed you up, vandalized your home and took your money? Didn't think so.

    Are you the same guy who posted some time ago that he tried to reuse his CD-Keys, found they didn't work and then accused SE of being thieves? The overall tone of the post sounds familiar - if so, that accusation was already addressed and disproven - you don't have to re-register your CD keys once the account is setup the first time. Only have to remember your PlayOnline ID and your password.

    Now.. if you're not that person...

    Where did you get hung up when re-activating your account?

    Did you try re-using the CD-Keys as above? Did you remember your PlayOnline ID and/or Password to log in?

    Back when you cancelled, did you cancel the account entirely, or only close the Content IDs?

    Did you try calling their customer service for help?

    You say you bought it back at release - which one.. North American PC release? PS2? X-Box 360? Japanese Release?  How long did you have the account inactive for before you tried re-upping it. Your answer to that can have a huge impact on the answer. If you bought it at the NA PC release, which was over 4 years ago now, and have had the account inactive since then, well.. 4 years is a long time to hold on to unused account info. Still, I have a feeling that's not the case here - unless you cancelled the entire PlayOnline account.

    I'm not seeing enough detail in your post to get a picture of what went wrong, so I can't really suggest anything to try and resolve it.

    Accusing a company of being "thugs and thieves" is a pretty strong accusation - I would hope you at least tried to exhaust all possible resolutions before you jumped to any conclusion - much less that one.

     

     

     

     

    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
    - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • MorrdakMorrdak Member Posts: 81

     

    Originally posted by WSIMike


     Thugs and thieves, eh? So, they like.. came to your home, roughed you up, vandalized your home and took your money? Didn't think so.
    Are you the same guy who posted some time ago that he tried to reuse his CD-Keys, found they didn't work and then accused SE of being thieves? The overall tone of the post sounds familiar - if so, that accusation was already addressed and disproven - you don't have to re-register your CD keys once the account is setup the first time. Only have to remember your PlayOnline ID and your password.


    Wow, interesting Mike, if you're refering to me... I never accused SE of being thieves nor do I have any malice towards them. There wasn't anything to disprove. My opinion still remains, they shouldn't delete existing accounts cause of inactivity. The fact is that no other company does this and as a best practice, characters and accounts are left alone when someone unsubscribes. Its just an industry standard, argue and "disprove" what you will.

     

    No, that guy isn't me.

  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564

     

    Originally posted by Morrdak


     
    Originally posted by WSIMike


     Thugs and thieves, eh? So, they like.. came to your home, roughed you up, vandalized your home and took your money? Didn't think so.
    Are you the same guy who posted some time ago that he tried to reuse his CD-Keys, found they didn't work and then accused SE of being thieves? The overall tone of the post sounds familiar - if so, that accusation was already addressed and disproven - you don't have to re-register your CD keys once the account is setup the first time. Only have to remember your PlayOnline ID and your password.


    Wow, interesting Mike, if you're refering to me... I never accused SE of being thieves nor do I have any malice towards them. There wasn't anything to disprove. My opinion still remains they shouldn't delete existing accounts cause of inactivity. The fact is no other company does this and as a best practice characters and accounts are left alone when someone unsubscribes, its just an industry standard, argue and "disprove" what you will.

     

    No, that guy isn't me.

     

    Errr...

    Did you see whose post I was quoting? The quoted section - along the person being quoted - is right in my post. Hint: It's not yours. Wow. Way to pay attention.

    As for your "fact" about industry standards and that no other company cancels accounts due to inactivity. Funny, every other MMO I've ever played has had a clause right in their ToS that states quite the opposite.. they all have stated, in plain English, that accounts and/or characters may be deleted during extended periods of inactivity. There's a whole thread on the LoTRO forums about this very clause in that game's ToS. I guess you must be referring to a different industry.

    Another "fact", though I realize it doesn't help your case to acknowledge it, is that there are many, many, many other players who unsub their accounts to take a break from FFXI and come back weeks, months, even a year or more later to find their accounts and their characters waiting for them. So once again.. while it does happen - in every MMO - it is not the norm. Again, common-sense would indicate that if the policy were causing *that* much trouble, SE would have long-since changed it.

    And again, I'm sure you'll find it right in their ToS that if you cancel your account and leave it inactive for over a certain amount of time, it can and will be deleted. You agreed to this when you subscribed and you are held to it. Whether "every other company" does it or not is irrelevant.. SE does and you agreed to this when you installed, sub'd and played the game - just like everyone else.

    You can disagree with it... that's your right. However, you still agreed to it and were held to it.

    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
    - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • MorrdakMorrdak Member Posts: 81

    LOL, dude your a trip, and very testy too.  I'm just so sorry I don't hang on every word enough to pay attention. Let me take your post to heart, change my ways, and always be more attentive from now on. You're such a superior poster with all your "facts" and know how, how can I ever compete!   Doesn't that feel better now Mikie?

    On a more serious note, no I'm not referring to any other industry but this one, but I'm glad you could get off your pedestal enough to admit to the "fact" that its not industry standard to delete characters/accounts.

     

  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564

     

    Originally posted by Morrdak


    LOL, dude your a trip, and very testy too.  I'm just so sorry I don't hang on every word enough to pay attention. Let me take your post to heart, change my ways, and always be more attentive from now on. You're such a superior poster with all your "facts" and know how, how can I ever compete!   Doesn't that feel better now Mikie?
    On a more serious note, no I'm not referring to any other industry but this one, but I'm glad you could get off your pedestal enough to admit to the "fact" that its not industry standard to delete characters/accounts.
     


     As for "not hanging on every word long enough to pay attention"

    Seems paying attention is exactly your problem. Perhaps you should start.

    1. You wouldn't make an ass out of yourself by responding to posts that aren't quoting, responding to, nor targeted at you in any way.

    2. You wouldn't be so dismayed when something you accepted by way of agreeing to a ToS, actually happens... ie. your account being lost due to extended inactivity.

    By the by... Your feeble attempts at sarcasm aren't lost on me. They just suck.

     

    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
    - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • MorrdakMorrdak Member Posts: 81

    Originally posted by WSIMike


     
    Originally posted by Morrdak


    LOL, dude your a trip, and very testy too.  I'm just so sorry I don't hang on every word enough to pay attention. Let me take your post to heart, change my ways, and always be more attentive from now on. You're such a superior poster with all your "facts" and know how, how can I ever compete!   Doesn't that feel better now Mikie?
    On a more serious note, no I'm not referring to any other industry but this one, but I'm glad you could get off your pedestal enough to admit to the "fact" that its not industry standard to delete characters/accounts.
     

     

    As for "not hanging on every word long enough to pay attention"

    Seems paying attention is exactly your problem. Perhaps you should start.

    1. You wouldn't make an ass out of yourself by responding to posts that aren't quoting, responding to, nor targeted at you in any way.

    2. You wouldn't be so dismayed when something you accepted by way of agreeing to a ToS, actually happens... ie. your account being lost due to extended inactivity.

    By the by... Your feeble attempts at sarcasm aren't lost on me. They just suck.

     

     

     

    Wow, I didn't know I was making an ass out of myself. Thank you Fan Boi Mikie, and for pen pointing the error in my ways. You rock!

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