Not necessarily. You forget that majority of the games out there are based on the fantasy model. So, who's to say that any of the new mmorpgs might not just take away subscriptions from WoW (we know WoW only has so much staying power befor it becomes boring), or any of the other fantasy mmorpgs. I think that is also a reason people are checking out SWG... because it is a break from "Dwarves, Elves, and Halflings, oh my!" I agree that there is the posibility of some current players moving to new mmorpgs, but it is more likely that the fantasy genres (especially WoW) will see a far greater impact.
I agree, the fantasy genre has been done ad nauseum. But last I checked there were some MMO's in development that are turning to sci-fi.
I know there is no such thing in development at the moment but just imagine what a Starcraft MMO would do to this community.
I seriously doubt that Starcraft mmorpg will ever happen anytime soon. Unless they make World of Starcraft (for lack of a better name) different from WoW, which they will copy many of the same things from WoW, as they have had massive success with WoW. Therefore, it could be in direct contention with WoW, and that would not be good for Blizz. Anyways, Blizz is more focused on Starcraft 2 atm.
Yes, the sci-fi games that are being developed could be a hinderance for SWG, but could be a hinderance to any sci-fi game (EvE & AO) if those games are done well. However, the only 2 non superhero, sci-fi mmorpgs that I know of that are in development are Star Trek Online and Stargate Worlds, and I am not holding my breath on those.
I came back about two weeks ago myself. The orc and elf games are getting really stale to me. Still playing LOTR, but its a breathe of fresh air to have a blaster back in my hand. Not to mention blazing across a planet in a speeder. I originally quit right before NGE and I am still not thrilled about it, but it is the only Sci Fi game I can relate to atm.
Why are there so many players on the servers now? arent people supposed to be moaning about how good SWG 'used' to be?
Anyways more players more fun, Long Live SWG!
Man, SWG used to be so fun! It was perfect. There wasn't a thing wrong with it! It was the best game ever! And then the Holocraze happened.. and then the CU happened.. and then the NGE happened.. and then time passed and more changes happened.. and now, it's a very fun game again IMO.
Ok, so there was some sarcasm in that, but it's somewhat true. The game was enjoyable. They started tearing the game down with each patch, until eventually it wasn't the same game. Now, it's actually enjoyable again. Perhaps that's what people are seeing when they return to the game, it's actually fun. So maybe they'll stay. That's what I've done. Who knows how long it will last, but I'm having fun now.
What is sad to me is that it took this long to get fun again. When i first tried it, a couple months after release i was scared away pretty fast by the lack of content ( quest based ) as most MMOs have. I moved to eq2. Recenlty tried SWG on a whim and although it lacks the great character customization of old and there are way too many jedi running around, its alot of fun.
After leveling up 1-90 over the last month or so i would say that 1-50 was some of the best questing i have done in any MMO, aside from maybe LOTRO. A little bit of grindy 70-80 or so, but Kashyyk and Musty are fun places to quest after Legacy.
Originally posted by Kyleran Those playing now should just enjoy it, those who hate it should stay away, and trolls should quit creating threads like these.....
I don't think this is a troll thread at all.
I've seen enough positive threads like this recently that I'm interested enough to actually re-sub my account. I quit playing back in '04 during the start of the holocron craze. I haven't gone back to SWG since then for lots of reasons (Iraq deployment, g/f liked WoW more than SWG, etc).
I'm thinking about going back to SWG now until something else catches my interest (preferrably non-fantasy.)
- Phos
AAH! A troll fire! Quick, pour some Kool-Aid on it!!!
Why are there so many players on the servers now? arent people supposed to be moaning about how good SWG 'used' to be?
Anyways more players more fun, Long Live SWG!
Man, SWG used to be so fun! It was perfect. There wasn't a thing wrong with it! It was the best game ever! And then the Holocraze happened.. and then the CU happened.. and then the NGE happened.. and then time passed and more changes happened.. and now, it's a very fun game again IMO.
Ok, so there was some sarcasm in that, but it's somewhat true. The game was enjoyable. They started tearing the game down with each patch, until eventually it wasn't the same game. Now, it's actually enjoyable again. Perhaps that's what people are seeing when they return to the game, it's actually fun. So maybe they'll stay. That's what I've done. Who knows how long it will last, but I'm having fun now.
I'm with you. I started playing 9 months or so after launch, played through patch 9, up to CU, got all mad and quit my sub because the cu blew chunks. I missed the nge debacle. I played my free vet trial 6 weeks or so ago and had a blast. I'm re-hooked.
The game is fun again. It's more like the old swg than it's been since before CU and I like what they've done with the place.
I don't hate on CU or NGE players. I just hate all the completely unfounded whining and constant calls to nerf anything that's cool If people would only learn to play before begging the devs to nerf everything.
Young man or lady I must ask you one thing... If the game as progressed into a good MMO with a growing population then, why is the rateing of this game on MMOrpg.com 6.4 down from 7.8 from the pre-cu/cu?... Might of been higher I can't remeber as it has been 2 years since I saw the old rating... Anyway this leads me to believe you just want to try to bring our hopes down of the old SWG back .. I do not hate the NGE like one poster said if somone is having fun great.. but I perfer the old system and that people like you respect those who came before you as they try not to bash you as a person.
Kallaswone
Elder Jedi
brith 2004..
death 2007 with lack of content and jedi being nerf to suck worse than a crafter.
I am a vet going even way back to BETA days and currently back on the New SWG system. There is definetly more people signing on than a few months ago, thats for sure <CHILASTRA>.
The devs are simply bringing back old ideas back into the new SWG game. Yeah its not Pre-CU, but that system was broke even back then. We got spoiled and grew to love the game stlye back then compared to now. There is still a few things I hate in the new SWG, but its still a hell of alot better than when NGE was introduced.
I cursed LA/SOE for the past 2 years cause they destroyed a game I fell in love with and the time I invested. SWG will always be around just because it Star Wars and as we know, Star Wars has a HUGE FAN BASE all over the WORLD.
If you dont like SWG then move to another game. People in general just love bashing this game cause they got screwed. However if you can let bygones be bygones and try SWG now and forget how the old system was, you will be surprised how the game is now. Its definetly a hell alot better now since you can modify the controls to the old style of galaxies and its got that old feel to it.
But I gotta hand it to SONY, they know how to advertise to bring people back, but at least I am having fun with SWG now and thats all that matters. I made new friends and starting new adventures with them. We had a nice event just the other day and SOE actually helped up with the event. Darth Vader made an appearance in our city, then a huge Rebel / Imperial battle tooks place. Good Stuff!
Originally posted by dinobot20 Young man or lady I must ask you one thing... If the game as progressed into a good MMO with a growing population then, why is the rateing of this game on MMOrpg.com 6.4 down from 7.8 from the pre-cu/cu?... Might of been higher I can't remeber as it has been 2 years since I saw the old rating... Anyway this leads me to believe you just want to try to bring our hopes down of the old SWG back .. I do not hate the NGE like one poster said if somone is having fun great.. but I perfer the old system and that people like you respect those who came before you as they try not to bash you as a person.
Kallaswone Elder Jedi brith 2004.. death 2007 with lack of content and jedi being nerf to suck worse than a crafter.
Ps This is to the form poster.
That would be because people tend to be more vocal about what they dislike then what they like. That and SWG has a dedicated group that rally together to make sure that rating doesn't get too high
The truth about population increase is true and false. Right now there are to many servers and a lot of them have had a nice hunk of returning/new players. I rejoined and joined Starsider (RP ) and noticed a HUGE increase from earlier this year. On the other hand I went to Corbantis (original) and I couldn't even stand to be there. Eisley had one person dancing. Bria was just a hell hole with so much spam and random screaming it made me log for hte night
I love Starsider. I just got a house, for free, and placing the house was incredible. I have explored this one woman's home, and she apparently collects rare art in-game! She was explaining to me the rare pieces she has and how she came to acquire them. LOL. You can also have several factories. Ha ha! No game out there has features and can offer what SWG offers. I think it is incredible.... The music, the environment, the sound, the effects, the cantina. I am using language like "Starport" and I actually FEEL like I am in a REAL Starport while waiting for friends to pick me up. Ha ha! As people come and go, you can see how people created their unique characters. I met a "hair stylist" LOL and had my hair changed; it was way too long when I created my guy. I find the world to be incredible. The vehicles are also just like the vehicles in the movies. Hehe. I just got like a motorcycle, for free.
I did know this game has so many features! I swear to God, I feel like I wasted YEARS of my life in EQ 1 and other games.
It is an extremely fun game, but it is really more of a world than a game. A real world, like the Star Wars movies. I love it, and if you are on Starsider, feel free to msg me here with your name!
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What's your name on Starsider? I'm creating a new character today and wouldn't mind meeting up with ya and having a drink in the cantina! Are you into Roleplaying at all? Starsider is a big roleplay server and it can be really fun acting like a smuggler and such
I totally agree guys. This game is a blast. The only people that say it sucks are the vet players that feel they got shafted. Their feelings are justified, but that doesn't change the fact that the game is moving forward and is better now than it's been in a long time. There are all kinds of players coming back, and new ones coming in. If you put this up against the majority of MMO's out there, it holds up. The combat is really exciting. It's fast paced and keeps you on your toes. CoH felt to me like I was shooting my electrical bolts through molasses. There's a ton of features, space combat, a lot of planets to explore.
Also, have you seen where people are accusing Tabula Rasa of having a system similar to the NGE. With a targeting recticle that doesn't actually fire in real time. Since this has been heralded as one of the kick ass games coming out. Could it be that SOE actually stumbled upon an exciting play mechanic, in which the positives were ignored due to people being upset about the implementation?
whats the positives? the game is vastly limited now, thats not how an RPG should be. Fixes were necessary not a complete overhaul..
Limited? I would say it's not any more limited than WoW, CoH, jesus christ GW. COH is nothing but a bunch of instanced quests in the same area. Cov had potential but is essentially the same game with a diff skin. GW is a glorified chat room, nothing more. The expertise sysytem allows you to customize your character, even more so now with beast master. You can run around and do all kinds of stuff. Space combat, rancor hunting on Dathomir, legacy quest, graul hunting on dantooine, old fashioned grinding. Hell, you can get your rocks off randomnly shooting gungans. Who wouldn't love that? Maybe the complete overhaul was not needed. But that was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. We are at now now( heh Spaceballs anyone?). Then will not be now.
The only downside right now is the money issue. There isn't enough money rotation so stuff is really inflated. So hopefully that gets figured out soon then we are good to go
whats the positives? the game is vastly limited now, thats not how an RPG should be. Fixes were necessary not a complete overhaul..
Limited? I would say it's not any more limited than WoW, CoH, jesus christ GW. COH is nothing but a bunch of instanced quests in the same area. Cov had potential but is essentially the same game with a diff skin. GW is a glorified chat room, nothing more. The expertise sysytem allows you to customize your character, even more so now with beast master. You can run around and do all kinds of stuff. Space combat, rancor hunting on Dathomir, legacy quest, graul hunting on dantooine, old fashioned grinding. Hell, you can get your rocks off randomnly shooting gungans. Who wouldn't love that? Maybe the complete overhaul was not needed. But that was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. We are at now now( heh Spaceballs anyone?). Then will not be now.
its more limited than pre-CU, hell even Pre-NGE..nuff said
expertise is a good joke for diversity, remember the skill box system? Now thats where you had choices.
whats the positives? the game is vastly limited now, thats not how an RPG should be. Fixes were necessary not a complete overhaul..
Limited? I would say it's not any more limited than WoW, CoH, jesus christ GW. COH is nothing but a bunch of instanced quests in the same area. Cov had potential but is essentially the same game with a diff skin. GW is a glorified chat room, nothing more. The expertise sysytem allows you to customize your character, even more so now with beast master. You can run around and do all kinds of stuff. Space combat, rancor hunting on Dathomir, legacy quest, graul hunting on dantooine, old fashioned grinding. Hell, you can get your rocks off randomnly shooting gungans. Who wouldn't love that? Maybe the complete overhaul was not needed. But that was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. We are at now now( heh Spaceballs anyone?). Then will not be now.
its more limited than pre-CU, hell even Pre-NGE..nuff said
expertise is a good joke for diversity, remember the skill box system? Now thats where you had choices.
Ok Mr. Troll. This is the last time I will dignify you with comment. Your quote in your sidebar says it all. You're telling everyone to avoid SOE just becuase they shafted you. We understand, we feel your pain. But your only argument is to harken back to the old days. That doesn;t fly. Nuff said.
First of all, where is the troll? Really, pointing facts is trolling
Another thing, i never got shafted, cause i (thank god) missed the overhaul, but i feel the pain of vets cause they told me about the old game. Which was a s!tload better despite bugs.
SWG will never have as many people as it use to, this is the turth so, old players will always think the servers look dead, we're use to cnet being full of people.
I don't play though so I dunno who is still around.
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I agree, the fantasy genre has been done ad nauseum. But last I checked there were some MMO's in development that are turning to sci-fi.
I know there is no such thing in development at the moment but just imagine what a Starcraft MMO would do to this community.
I seriously doubt that Starcraft mmorpg will ever happen anytime soon. Unless they make World of Starcraft (for lack of a better name) different from WoW, which they will copy many of the same things from WoW, as they have had massive success with WoW. Therefore, it could be in direct contention with WoW, and that would not be good for Blizz. Anyways, Blizz is more focused on Starcraft 2 atm.Yes, the sci-fi games that are being developed could be a hinderance for SWG, but could be a hinderance to any sci-fi game (EvE & AO) if those games are done well. However, the only 2 non superhero, sci-fi mmorpgs that I know of that are in development are Star Trek Online and Stargate Worlds, and I am not holding my breath on those.
Triston Master Carbine/Master Swords (SWG Eclipse)
Triston 29 Warden (EQ2 Permafrost)
Weland 70 Hunter (WoW Hellscream)
Suidan 36 Cleric (Vanguard Flamehammer)
Suidan 50 Champion (LOTR Gladden)
Man, SWG used to be so fun! It was perfect. There wasn't a thing wrong with it! It was the best game ever! And then the Holocraze happened.. and then the CU happened.. and then the NGE happened.. and then time passed and more changes happened.. and now, it's a very fun game again IMO.
Ok, so there was some sarcasm in that, but it's somewhat true. The game was enjoyable. They started tearing the game down with each patch, until eventually it wasn't the same game. Now, it's actually enjoyable again. Perhaps that's what people are seeing when they return to the game, it's actually fun. So maybe they'll stay. That's what I've done. Who knows how long it will last, but I'm having fun now.
What is sad to me is that it took this long to get fun again. When i first tried it, a couple months after release i was scared away pretty fast by the lack of content ( quest based ) as most MMOs have. I moved to eq2. Recenlty tried SWG on a whim and although it lacks the great character customization of old and there are way too many jedi running around, its alot of fun.
After leveling up 1-90 over the last month or so i would say that 1-50 was some of the best questing i have done in any MMO, aside from maybe LOTRO. A little bit of grindy 70-80 or so, but Kashyyk and Musty are fun places to quest after Legacy.
very glad i tried SWG again.
-Allegria
I don't think this is a troll thread at all.
I've seen enough positive threads like this recently that I'm interested enough to actually re-sub my account. I quit playing back in '04 during the start of the holocron craze. I haven't gone back to SWG since then for lots of reasons (Iraq deployment, g/f liked WoW more than SWG, etc).
I'm thinking about going back to SWG now until something else catches my interest (preferrably non-fantasy.)
- Phos
Man, SWG used to be so fun! It was perfect. There wasn't a thing wrong with it! It was the best game ever! And then the Holocraze happened.. and then the CU happened.. and then the NGE happened.. and then time passed and more changes happened.. and now, it's a very fun game again IMO.
Ok, so there was some sarcasm in that, but it's somewhat true. The game was enjoyable. They started tearing the game down with each patch, until eventually it wasn't the same game. Now, it's actually enjoyable again. Perhaps that's what people are seeing when they return to the game, it's actually fun. So maybe they'll stay. That's what I've done. Who knows how long it will last, but I'm having fun now.
I'm with you. I started playing 9 months or so after launch, played through patch 9, up to CU, got all mad and quit my sub because the cu blew chunks. I missed the nge debacle. I played my free vet trial 6 weeks or so ago and had a blast. I'm re-hooked.The game is fun again. It's more like the old swg than it's been since before CU and I like what they've done with the place.
I don't hate on CU or NGE players. I just hate all the completely unfounded whining and constant calls to nerf anything that's cool
If people would only learn to play before begging the devs to nerf everything.
-viz
It seems like on my server, Starsider, there are always new players running around the noobie area.
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
Definitely more players and fun too!!
Young man or lady I must ask you one thing... If the game as progressed into a good MMO with a growing population then, why is the rateing of this game on MMOrpg.com 6.4 down from 7.8 from the pre-cu/cu?... Might of been higher I can't remeber as it has been 2 years since I saw the old rating... Anyway this leads me to believe you just want to try to bring our hopes down of the old SWG back .. I do not hate the NGE like one poster said if somone is having fun great.. but I perfer the old system and that people like you respect those who came before you as they try not to bash you as a person.
Kallaswone
Elder Jedi
brith 2004..
death 2007 with lack of content and jedi being nerf to suck worse than a crafter.
Ps
This is to the form poster.
I am a vet going even way back to BETA days and currently back on the New SWG system. There is definetly more people signing on than a few months ago, thats for sure <CHILASTRA>.
The devs are simply bringing back old ideas back into the new SWG game. Yeah its not Pre-CU, but that system was broke even back then. We got spoiled and grew to love the game stlye back then compared to now. There is still a few things I hate in the new SWG, but its still a hell of alot better than when NGE was introduced.
I cursed LA/SOE for the past 2 years cause they destroyed a game I fell in love with and the time I invested. SWG will always be around just because it Star Wars and as we know, Star Wars has a HUGE FAN BASE all over the WORLD.
If you dont like SWG then move to another game. People in general just love bashing this game cause they got screwed. However if you can let bygones be bygones and try SWG now and forget how the old system was, you will be surprised how the game is now. Its definetly a hell alot better now since you can modify the controls to the old style of galaxies and its got that old feel to it.
But I gotta hand it to SONY, they know how to advertise to bring people back, but at least I am having fun with SWG now and thats all that matters. I made new friends and starting new adventures with them. We had a nice event just the other day and SOE actually helped up with the event. Darth Vader made an appearance in our city, then a huge Rebel / Imperial battle tooks place. Good Stuff!
I hate the same old moaning posts of vets a LOT...but i hate flameposts like yours even more.Go back to your cave....
You class one muppet that isn't moaning it's praise for the game !!!!!!
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The truth about population increase is true and false. Right now there are to many servers and a lot of them have had a nice hunk of returning/new players. I rejoined and joined Starsider (RP
) and noticed a HUGE increase from earlier this year. On the other hand I went to Corbantis (original) and I couldn't even stand to be there. Eisley had one person dancing. Bria was just a hell hole with so much spam and random screaming it made me log for hte night 
I love Starsider. I just got a house, for free, and placing the house was incredible. I have explored this one woman's home, and she apparently collects rare art in-game! She was explaining to me the rare pieces she has and how she came to acquire them. LOL. You can also have several factories. Ha ha! No game out there has features and can offer what SWG offers. I think it is incredible.... The music, the environment, the sound, the effects, the cantina. I am using language like "Starport" and I actually FEEL like I am in a REAL Starport while waiting for friends to pick me up. Ha ha! As people come and go, you can see how people created their unique characters. I met a "hair stylist" LOL and had my hair changed; it was way too long when I created my guy. I find the world to be incredible. The vehicles are also just like the vehicles in the movies. Hehe. I just got like a motorcycle, for free.
I did know this game has so many features! I swear to God, I feel like I wasted YEARS of my life in EQ 1 and other games.
It is an extremely fun game, but it is really more of a world than a game. A real world, like the Star Wars movies. I love it, and if you are on Starsider, feel free to msg me here with your name!
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
What's your name on Starsider? I'm creating a new character today and wouldn't mind meeting up with ya and having a drink in the cantina! Are you into Roleplaying at all? Starsider is a big roleplay server and it can be really fun acting like a smuggler and such
I totally agree guys. This game is a blast. The only people that say it sucks are the vet players that feel they got shafted. Their feelings are justified, but that doesn't change the fact that the game is moving forward and is better now than it's been in a long time. There are all kinds of players coming back, and new ones coming in. If you put this up against the majority of MMO's out there, it holds up. The combat is really exciting. It's fast paced and keeps you on your toes. CoH felt to me like I was shooting my electrical bolts through molasses. There's a ton of features, space combat, a lot of planets to explore.
Also, have you seen where people are accusing Tabula Rasa of having a system similar to the NGE. With a targeting recticle that doesn't actually fire in real time. Since this has been heralded as one of the kick ass games coming out. Could it be that SOE actually stumbled upon an exciting play mechanic, in which the positives were ignored due to people being upset about the implementation?
Give me a shout guys.
Tempest: Boaz Sartoth
Starsider: Tituus Crow
whats the positives? the game is vastly limited now, thats not how an RPG should be. Fixes were necessary not a complete overhaul..
Ye server pop is deff increasing. At least on Chimaera with new players and oldies returning every day.
It's not a great game, unless you're a real Starwars fanboi. It's still a good game tho.
Even so... I cant help dreaming of preCU Galaxies every time I log on... was awesome back then.
Oh well
The only downside right now is the money issue. There isn't enough money rotation so stuff is really inflated. So hopefully that gets figured out soon then we are good to go
its more limited than pre-CU, hell even Pre-NGE..nuff said
expertise is a good joke for diversity, remember the skill box system? Now thats where you had choices.
its more limited than pre-CU, hell even Pre-NGE..nuff said
expertise is a good joke for diversity, remember the skill box system? Now thats where you had choices.
Ok Mr. Troll. This is the last time I will dignify you with comment. Your quote in your sidebar says it all. You're telling everyone to avoid SOE just becuase they shafted you. We understand, we feel your pain. But your only argument is to harken back to the old days. That doesn;t fly. Nuff said.
First of all, where is the troll? Really, pointing facts is trolling
Another thing, i never got shafted, cause i (thank god) missed the overhaul, but i feel the pain of vets cause they told me about the old game. Which was a s!tload better despite bugs.
Server population increase is a myth. The only increase has been due to old players returning for the house packup.
SWG will never have as many people as it use to, this is the turth so, old players will always think the servers look dead, we're use to cnet being full of people.
I don't play though so I dunno who is still around.
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