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Thoughts on Macroing
benmcntsh
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I was interested in knowing what people's thoughts were on macroing: both attended and unattended macroing. I know some MMORPGs have in-game macroing tools built into the game. Should macroing be punished in an MMORPG? Attended macroing may never be caught, but is it wrong? It seems like people should be able to play the game how ever they want, but it may be at the expense of other players.
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I have a genius idea. Why dont they make it where its actually fun to play the game.....
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depends on the game really
if yo're playing FFXI and you dont have macros, then you're screwed
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
This sense of macro'ing is the illegal not supposed to be used type right? Cause there are lots of types of macros, like ones where they are ok, and aren't frowned upon.
But for the frowned upon macro I guess I'm okay with em unless they get in my way then I really get mad. If they stay out of my way then I'm okay with it.
same with swg macro'ing. especially if you are doing a class that requires hours of grinding for xp. i got so bored and my wrist hurt so bad after 30 mins. from just going back and forth back and forth. macro'ing eliminates that movement, and accomplishes what you'd be doing anyway. im completely fine with people macro'ing for crafting
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
lol. Oh yeah, i remember macroing my Weaponsmith in SWG also. It was fun trying to find the best resources to make the weapons; however, there was no way i was just gonna sit there and grind out weapons for xp. I used my trusty macro app to get the job done for me. Yes this may be wrong....however, anyone can do it if they choose too.
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didnt exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
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Like it, no, but some games make it a neccessity. Like SWG. Which built a pretty robust set of macro tools into the game. And the devs are surprised that people are using macros to do everything, so they're going to nerf macros, or somesuch.
If the developers make a portion of the game repetitive, and boring, expect it to get macroed, especially if it's a neccessary part of the game, like crafting in SWG.
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They panic, so... just hold them down
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I'm closing in; hate all around
I could be like this
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I fail to see how someone using an IN GAME system to avoid a dull, boring, and repetitive portion of the game(Have you ever played a Dancer, or Musician in SWG?) impacts you, personally.
If using a 3rd party program is against the EULA, then they get warned, and/or banned. In game macros, like SWGs, were put there by the devs and people will use them to avoid dull, and repetitive gameplay.
If some of you enjoy the view from your moral high horse, don't bitch at those that use what the devs gave them to get ahead.
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They panic, so... just hold them down
I could live like this
I'm closing in; hate all around
I could be like this
Hearing them; them in my head
How can they be so sweet... sweet?
That which does not kill you only makes you stronger.
Any game that requires wrote, formulaic action in order to advance is lacking for game design. If a macro can overachieve a human then there is something fundamentally wrong with the game. For this reason alone I am completely in support of BOTs and macros.
macros are alright if like in swg they are for crafting or sampling cuz those tasks dont directly affect other players and are tedious tasks. however combat macros in swg are extrememly annoying
as they wipe out spawns that new players could be using and ive seen combat macros or bots in other games as well
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MACRO'S are an unfortunate consequence of super boring gameplay that is prevelant (prevalant which is it) in todays MMORPG's.
Let's take crafting in SWG for example...someone earlier in this threaad said that if it were not for his crafting macros he/she wold have gone "insane". Let's think about that statement for a second. A game element like crafting that is supposed to be fun or engaging, actually is just a "chore".
Crafting is not the only thing that is so goddamn boring either. How about combat. I remember my first experience in an MMORPG...it was Anarchy onlilne about 2 1/2 years ago. I remember thinking to myself, wow this game is awesome....so huge...so much to do...so many people to meet...and a lot of stuff to kill. Then I remember, I was about 3 or 4 months into the game and I was in a battle at totw or something like that, and I said to myself this combat is so goddamn boring?!?! All i do is point and click on a monster and point and click on my taskbar, and hope for the best from my toon and my party. I did not stop playing though...Why you ask....Because I was addicted to the game like a crackhead addicted to crack. I say crack because I'm sure that anyone on crack does not really want to put themselves through the hell that they put themselves through to get their hands on some crack...ie. prostituting or stealing...but they do it anyway. And if you ask them why, they probably will tell you that they are chasing that first high they got when they first put they're lips upon the glass dick. This is how I was...I would get home from work, crack open a beer, play AO for 3-6 hours, and hope that I may get that same feeling I had when I first played the game...well it doesn't work for crack heads, and it didn't work for me.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I have no problem with macros because the games out now are so boring and so taxing on ones mental state, that there is no other choice for players that don't want to GO INSANE!...Xaldor
That is just silly. Seriously. I cant believe you actually believe that drivel.
If a game bores you, don't play it. Is there a reason why you think you deserve to go up in skill in a game if you don't play for it? I played EQ for 4 years. I still miss the raids. I miss just being able to go explore one of the many zones I havent spent a lot of time in. There are plenty of quests not finished yet and there is lots of lore to be read. People like you, however, are only interest in how big their virtual penis is and not the actual game. The game is not just leveling. Its not just advancement. It is story, adventure, etc. They are not as exciting as a game of UT2004, but its sure more exciting than 200 games of UT2004 . . . There is SO much do in those games. Use your imagination . . .
What you are bitching at is the nature of a MMORPG. They are slow progressing games unless you are a super power gamer. You want instant gratification? There are plenty of non MMORPG's that are online fast action instant gratification games.
Pathetic . . . because you cant keep up with others in the game, you think its ok to cheat to do so and use boredom as your reason.
Prevalent
Pathetic . . . because you cant keep up with others in the game, you think its ok to cheat to do so and use boredom as your reason.
Joeygates....
Just so you know I have never once used a MACRO in a MMORPG in my life. What I am trying to say is that boredom IS a factor in any MMORPG. That is a fact...look at the numerous threads on this site that in one way or another address this FACT. I think that you may want to read the petition for changes in MMORPG's thread, posted earlier on this site. You may see that there are many others in this community taht feel the way I do...Xaldor
Pathetic . . . because you cant keep up with others in the game, you think its ok to cheat to do so and use boredom as your reason.
Joeygates....
Just so you know I have never once used a MACRO in a MMORPG in my life. What I am trying to say is that boredom IS a factor in any MMORPG. That is a fact...look at the numerous threads on this site that in one way or another address this FACT. I think that you may want to read the petition for changes in MMORPG's thread, posted earlier on this site. You may see that there are many others in this community taht feel the way I do...Xaldor
So? Because people are bored with 5 year old games you are surprised? Pfft . . . get over it.
There are a few new games coming out that will have a lot of what has been asked for. Again, if you are bored with one of these old games or some of the new ones who did not even try to get away from the old structure, then just dont play them and wait for something new.
Everyone knows the older games are getting dated . . . and have somewhat been dated. However, if people were so bored with DAoC and EQ, then they would no longer be playing them . . . like me
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Joey..
Why do you feel it necessary to antagonize me? I am simply stating an opinion. Is that not what FORUMS are for.
I'll second that.
How about offering somehting to do other than mindless leveling?
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