Aoc is a 100% wow copy i mean aoc has swords and wow has swords what more do you need to see its a wow clone
Dude... i really really really hope you didn't mean that.
Sure he did he... he proble like 25 years old lives with his mom and play wow 15 hrs a day and thinks wow is the best game out there............................................
Player created cities,. Archtypes first classes later. If anything this sounds more like a Shadowbane clone. Of course I liked shadowbane for these reasons. Also I think the combat system will set AoC apart some. And honestly everything is just a clone of the old text based MUD's they just went and added pretty pictures for the folks who don't like to read that much.
Anyone who calls this game a WoW Clone isn't looking into the game much. Superficaly perhaps, in effect they are both MMO's with a Midevil feel to them, but thats about it.
Anyone who calls this game a WoW Clone isn't looking into the game much. Superficaly perhaps, in effect they are both MMO's with a Midevil feel to them, but thats about it.
Same coud be said for those who call War a wow clone [looks at the AOC fans].
Originally posted by cupertino Originally posted by Goldknyght Ok I'm reading some of the hype remarks and they keep saying WOW clone.??? WoW is a Everquest/UO/DAoC clone. why are the flamers dat retarded..?
WoW is not a clone of EQ,UO,DAoC or any other MMO you care to mention.. its a game set in the MMORPG genre, what did you expect blizz not to add, swords, inventories, trees, cities, NPC's because games did them b4?
-Sonic is a clone of Mario because it has platforms and enemies that walk side to side? -Half-life is a clone of Doom because they have guns in a 1st person view? -Company of heroes is a clone of Starcraft because you can use the mouse to move units?
On topic now.... AoC is not a clone, as I stated above its a game in the MMO genre and such will share traits of ALL MMO games.
WoW is totally a clone, with nothing new in it, it is a dumbed down version of all previous mmo's with a nice interface and good polish. The only thing they improved is the quest system.
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Ok I'm reading some of the hype remarks and they keep saying WOW clone.??? WoW is a Everquest/UO/DAoC clone. why are the flamers dat retarded..?
WoW is not a clone of EQ,UO,DAoC or any other MMO you care to mention.. its a game set in the MMORPG genre, what did you expect blizz not to add, swords, inventories, trees, cities, NPC's because games did them b4?
-Sonic is a clone of Mario because it has platforms and enemies that walk side to side?
-Half-life is a clone of Doom because they have guns in a 1st person view?
-Company of heroes is a clone of Starcraft because you can use the mouse to move units?
On topic now.... AoC is not a clone, as I stated above its a game in the MMO genre and such will share traits of ALL MMO games.
WoW is totally a clone, with nothing new in it, it is a dumbed down version of all previous mmo's with a nice interface and good polish. The only thing they improved is the quest system.
Greetz
Also as you probably know WoW like other blizzard games like warcraft 3 and starcraft copyied there games from Games workshop products. Somewhere on the internet [and i cant be asked to look] is information where Games Workshop sued Bizzard for copyright infringment and the result was blizzard were forced to settle out of court and make changes to the aformentioned games.
Why? Because most of the WoW players are 1st time MMORPG players, and just plain noobs.
That ia why WoW in the beginning had a horrible community, they didnt know how to behave. WoW's community got better, but can never become great because of the elitist endgame. This endgame excludes people, friends, player per definition ( 25 man player limit on instances ).
I know what I talk about as I was the GM of a succesfull endgame Raid guild in WoW. WoW did many things right, the endgame is not one of them.
So as most of the WoW players are mmo noobs, they just dont know any better, they dont know where stuff came from and they dont how new stuff should evolve.
Either way, AoC has some cool things in it, that set it apart from WoW.
There are WoW clones out there, I think for example of LOTRO, now this is a very nice and polished game, but basically is a WoW clone with nothing more to offer then the original. That is why it wont last long.
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it must have been started from WoWhammer errr Warhammer fans in order to get a rile up in here. Why is this thread still going? They do have a nice sense of humour, I must say.
AoC a WoW clone!?!? Bwhahahahahahaha! ROFL! it must have been started from WoWhammer errr Warhammer fans in order to get a rile up in here. Why is this thread still going? They do have a nice sense of humour, I must say.
Yea with people from this forum going over to the Warhammer forum constantly posting topics like this do you blame them if they get riled up after all WAR is not a wow clone in fact it could be argued that WoW is a wahammer clone.
AoC a WoW clone!?!? Bwhahahahahahaha! ROFL! it must have been started from WoWhammer errr Warhammer fans in order to get a rile up in here. Why is this thread still going? They do have a nice sense of humour, I must say.
Yea with people from this forum going over to the Warhammer forum constantly posting topics like this do you blame them if they get riled up after all WAR is not a wow clone in fact it could be argued that WoW is a wahammer clone.
Hahahahah.
It is impossible for WoW to be a WAR clone.
Though Warhammer came out before Warcraft, as Warcraft is based on Warhammer, It is impossible for WoW to be a copy of WAR (the video game) cause WORLD OF WARCRAFT CAME OUT BEFORE WARHAMMER!!!! WARHAMMER ISNT EVEN OUT YET!
Hahahahah. It is impossible for WoW to be a WAR clone. Though Warhammer came out before Warcraft, as Warcraft is based on Warhammer, It is impossible for WoW to be a copy of WAR cause WORLD OF WARCRAFT CAME OUT BEFORE WARHAMMER!!!! WARHAMMER ISNT EVEN OUT YET! Thank you.
Note i said Warhammer not WAR so the jokes on you.
Yep you see my point was that War was based on that really good tabletop game of Warhammer so its basically a clone of that not WoW. Interestingly its well known what WoW was based on [warhammer mainly in races and to some extent story].
Yep you see my point was that War was based on that really good tabletop game of Warhammer so its basically a clone of that not WoW. Interestingly its well known what WoW was based on [warhammer mainly in races and to some extent story].
I'd have to disagree i would say Warcraft was based off warhammer not World of Warcraft based off warhammer. I like warcraft dislike WoW. DOTA ROCKS
I think Warhammer will have a larger crowd than Age of Conan simply because it has a much larger fanbase from the previous DAoC crowd than the Anarchy Online crowd. However, looking very similar to WoW gameplay will hurt rather than help them. I have no idea what Age of Conan gameplay will look like. While I don't think it'll be a WoW killer, I do think about 20% of WoW players will leave for either of these new games by this time next year
However Mythic has had an incredibly open development process with Warhammer. I have seen and heard tons of videos, interviews and pics for Warhammer. I've read tons of hands on previews of the work they've shown and allowed people to play at the Games Workshop conventions. Everything I've heard about and seen about Warhammer has been incredibly positive.
So I predict something like this:
WoW < WAR > AoC
Q4 2007 for AoC and Q1 2008 for Warhammer - We figure it out soon
I think Warhammer will have a larger crowd than Age of Conan simply because it has a much larger fanbase from the previous DAoC crowd than the Anarchy Online crowd. However, looking very similar to WoW gameplay will hurt rather than help them. I have no idea what Age of Conan gameplay will look like. While I don't think it'll be a WoW killer, I do think about 20% of WoW players will leave for either of these new games by this time next year
However Mythic has had an incredibly open development process with Warhammer. I have seen and heard tons of videos, interviews and pics for Warhammer. I've read tons of hands on previews of the work they've shown and allowed people to play at the Games Workshop conventions. Everything I've heard about and seen about Warhammer has been incredibly positive.
So I predict something like this:
WoW < WAR > AoC
Q4 2007 for AoC and Q1 2008 for Warhammer - We figure it out soon
yeah, i can see why you say Warhammer has a bigger fanbase. but you dont think Conan has a fanbase either? ... I don't play MMOs regardless if I'm a fan of the developers. I didn't choose WoW , because I constantly played wc3 in the past. I chose WoW , because it looked like it delievered the game quality I wanted. AoC and WAR can't really be compared yet.. all we have seen are videos and screenshots.. when they release betas for both, then we can compare. But just because a game has a larger fanbase doesn't necessarily mean that the game is going to do well. Look at SWG...Look at DDO...all games that have a huge fanbase... and doesn't seem like they are doing to hot anymore.
Yep you see my point was that War was based on that really good tabletop game of Warhammer so its basically a clone of that not WoW. Interestingly its well known what WoW was based on [warhammer mainly in races and to some extent story].
Okay - I thought your point was something else
WAR is based off Warhammer, but thats not the full piece of the puzzle. It could be based on a franchise such as Warhammer, but me and many people have reason to believe that Warhammer Online is going to share many, many elements of World of Warcraft, besides the obvious lore. We're talking about game mechanics, gameplay, etc.
In fact, its impossible for Warhammer Online to be a "clone" of Warhammer the tabletop game, because Warhammer Online is an MMO video game and Warhammer the table top game is just that....a table top game.
I can not stand WoW, but you have to hand it to Blizzard that they did a damn good job marketing and making TONS of money off of it. The did a good job, i just dont personally like it. I mean come on guys this is the same company who broght us Diablo and Starcraft (not to mention SC2 mmmm). That being said Aoc and Warhammer are both great games. They both offer different "niches" in the market of MMOs but they follow very different paths. At first i thought War was a wow2.0 but i educated myself and it looks liek a pretty decent game. I just dont like that style of play. The brutal factor did it for me with AoC.
Why do people hate on wow so much, I am sure if you were on thier payroll you would jsut be laughing you way to the bank.
I can not stand WoW, but you have to hand it to Blizzard that they did a damn good job marketing and making TONS of money off of it. The did a good job, i just dont personally like it. I mean come on guys this is the same company who broght us Diablo and Starcraft (not to mention SC2 mmmm). That being said Aoc and Warhammer are both great games. They both offer different "niches" in the market of MMOs but they follow very different paths. At first i thought War was a wow2.0 but i educated myself and it looks liek a pretty decent game. I just dont like that style of play. The brutal factor did it for me with AoC.
Why do people hate on wow so much, I am sure if you were on thier payroll you would jsut be laughing you way to the bank.
Sorry for the rambling just killing time at work.
True on that if i was on WoW payroll i would be laughing, but i dont have a problem with WoW I'm just stating AoC isnt a WoW copy.
people must be really ignorant to think AOC, is a wow copy. Wow hasent gotten 1 original idea, everything has been borrowed or stolen from Others. especially their story has largely been borrowed from Tolkens and Warhammers universe. (speaking of the Tolken and warhammer books/comics ofcause), but also things like the combat system etc, is almost a direct ripoff of other mmos.
Sure conan has borrowed things to, especially alot of things from Daoc and so on, but i dont se that makes it a Daoc clone at all.
What i especially like with this mmo, is it aims at an older crowd, both with their story and game play (20+ would i say), and the fact that they try to make good mmo system, with blood money, fort Seiges etc. totally unlike wow, where people who is only over 17, feels over the hill, and the pvp system is primitive at best. But the number 1, all time best thing about this game, is, NO elves!! No elves at all
Ok I'm reading some of the hype remarks and they keep saying WOW clone.??? WoW is a Everquest/UO/DAoC clone. why are the flamers dat retarded..?
WoW is actually a Warhammer Everquest clone. Warhammer wise the races and story was almost directly copyied [one example being green orks which were created first by warahmmer 26 years ago].
And to say that Age Of Cohan is a copy of WoW i mean WTF [excuse my language], WoW is nothing like AOC exept them both being MMO's and in a fantasy setting. People comparing AOC to WoW are just trolling i say, and remember this site terms trolling as someone who posts to provoke a responce.
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Dude... i really really really hope you didn't mean that.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm
Dude... i really really really hope you didn't mean that.
Sure he did he... he proble like 25 years old lives with his mom and play wow 15 hrs a day and thinks wow is the best game out there............................................
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Player created cities,. Archtypes first classes later. If anything this sounds more like a Shadowbane clone. Of course I liked shadowbane for these reasons. Also I think the combat system will set AoC apart some. And honestly everything is just a clone of the old text based MUD's they just went and added pretty pictures for the folks who don't like to read that much.
Anyone who calls this game a WoW Clone isn't looking into the game much. Superficaly perhaps, in effect they are both MMO's with a Midevil feel to them, but thats about it.
Same coud be said for those who call War a wow clone [looks at the AOC fans].
-Sonic is a clone of Mario because it has platforms and enemies that walk side to side?
-Half-life is a clone of Doom because they have guns in a 1st person view?
-Company of heroes is a clone of Starcraft because you can use the mouse to move units?
On topic now.... AoC is not a clone, as I stated above its a game in the MMO genre and such will share traits of ALL MMO games.
WoW is totally a clone, with nothing new in it, it is a dumbed down version of all previous mmo's with a nice interface and good polish. The only thing they improved is the quest system.
Greetz
If you are interested in subscription or PCU numbers for MMORPG's, check out my site :
http://mmodata.blogspot.be/
Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
-Sonic is a clone of Mario because it has platforms and enemies that walk side to side?
-Half-life is a clone of Doom because they have guns in a 1st person view?
-Company of heroes is a clone of Starcraft because you can use the mouse to move units?
On topic now.... AoC is not a clone, as I stated above its a game in the MMO genre and such will share traits of ALL MMO games.
WoW is totally a clone, with nothing new in it, it is a dumbed down version of all previous mmo's with a nice interface and good polish. The only thing they improved is the quest system.
Greetz
Also as you probably know WoW like other blizzard games like warcraft 3 and starcraft copyied there games from Games workshop products. Somewhere on the internet [and i cant be asked to look] is information where Games Workshop sued Bizzard for copyright infringment and the result was blizzard were forced to settle out of court and make changes to the aformentioned games.
To the OP,
Why? Because most of the WoW players are 1st time MMORPG players, and just plain noobs.
That ia why WoW in the beginning had a horrible community, they didnt know how to behave.
WoW's community got better, but can never become great because of the elitist endgame. This endgame excludes people, friends, player per definition ( 25 man player limit on instances ).
I know what I talk about as I was the GM of a succesfull endgame Raid guild in WoW.
WoW did many things right, the endgame is not one of them.
So as most of the WoW players are mmo noobs, they just dont know any better, they dont know where stuff came from and they dont how new stuff should evolve.
Either way, AoC has some cool things in it, that set it apart from WoW.
There are WoW clones out there, I think for example of LOTRO, now this is a very nice and polished game, but basically is a WoW clone with nothing more to offer then the original. That is why it wont last long.
Greetz
If you are interested in subscription or PCU numbers for MMORPG's, check out my site :
http://mmodata.blogspot.be/
Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
AoC a WoW clone!?!?
Bwhahahahahahaha! ROFL!
it must have been started from WoWhammer errr Warhammer fans in order to get a rile up in here. Why is this thread still going? They do have a nice sense of humour, I must say.
Yea with people from this forum going over to the Warhammer forum constantly posting topics like this do you blame them if they get riled up after all WAR is not a wow clone in fact it could be argued that WoW is a wahammer clone.
Yea with people from this forum going over to the Warhammer forum constantly posting topics like this do you blame them if they get riled up after all WAR is not a wow clone in fact it could be argued that WoW is a wahammer clone.
Hahahahah.
It is impossible for WoW to be a WAR clone.
Though Warhammer came out before Warcraft, as Warcraft is based on Warhammer, It is impossible for WoW to be a copy of WAR (the video game) cause WORLD OF WARCRAFT CAME OUT BEFORE WARHAMMER!!!! WARHAMMER ISNT EVEN OUT YET!
Thank you.
Note i said Warhammer not WAR so the jokes on you.
Ahh...you got me there
Yep you see my point was that War was based on that really good tabletop game of Warhammer so its basically a clone of that not WoW. Interestingly its well known what WoW was based on [warhammer mainly in races and to some extent story].
i don't know whats worse AoC a WoW clone or WoW a UO clone, i mean WTF
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Yep you see my point was that War was based on that really good tabletop game of Warhammer so its basically a clone of that not WoW. Interestingly its well known what WoW was based on [warhammer mainly in races and to some extent story].
I'd have to disagree i would say Warcraft was based off warhammer not World of Warcraft based off warhammer. I like warcraft dislike WoW. DOTA ROCKS
I think Warhammer will have a larger crowd than Age of Conan simply because it has a much larger fanbase from the previous DAoC crowd than the Anarchy Online crowd. However, looking very similar to WoW gameplay will hurt rather than help them. I have no idea what Age of Conan gameplay will look like. While I don't think it'll be a WoW killer, I do think about 20% of WoW players will leave for either of these new games by this time next year
However Mythic has had an incredibly open development process with Warhammer. I have seen and heard tons of videos, interviews and pics for Warhammer. I've read tons of hands on previews of the work they've shown and allowed people to play at the Games Workshop conventions. Everything I've heard about and seen about Warhammer has been incredibly positive.
So I predict something like this:
WoW < WAR > AoC
Q4 2007 for AoC and Q1 2008 for Warhammer - We figure it out soon
yeah, i can see why you say Warhammer has a bigger fanbase. but you dont think Conan has a fanbase either? ... I don't play MMOs regardless if I'm a fan of the developers. I didn't choose WoW , because I constantly played wc3 in the past. I chose WoW , because it looked like it delievered the game quality I wanted. AoC and WAR can't really be compared yet.. all we have seen are videos and screenshots.. when they release betas for both, then we can compare. But just because a game has a larger fanbase doesn't necessarily mean that the game is going to do well. Look at SWG...Look at DDO...all games that have a huge fanbase... and doesn't seem like they are doing to hot anymore.
Yep you see my point was that War was based on that really good tabletop game of Warhammer so its basically a clone of that not WoW. Interestingly its well known what WoW was based on [warhammer mainly in races and to some extent story].
Okay - I thought your point was something else
WAR is based off Warhammer, but thats not the full piece of the puzzle. It could be based on a franchise such as Warhammer, but me and many people have reason to believe that Warhammer Online is going to share many, many elements of World of Warcraft, besides the obvious lore. We're talking about game mechanics, gameplay, etc.
In fact, its impossible for Warhammer Online to be a "clone" of Warhammer the tabletop game, because Warhammer Online is an MMO video game and Warhammer the table top game is just that....a table top game.
I can not stand WoW, but you have to hand it to Blizzard that they did a damn good job marketing and making TONS of money off of it. The did a good job, i just dont personally like it. I mean come on guys this is the same company who broght us Diablo and Starcraft (not to mention SC2 mmmm). That being said Aoc and Warhammer are both great games. They both offer different "niches" in the market of MMOs but they follow very different paths. At first i thought War was a wow2.0 but i educated myself and it looks liek a pretty decent game. I just dont like that style of play. The brutal factor did it for me with AoC.
Why do people hate on wow so much, I am sure if you were on thier payroll you would jsut be laughing you way to the bank.
Sorry for the rambling just killing time at work.
True on that if i was on WoW payroll i would be laughing, but i dont have a problem with WoW I'm just stating AoC isnt a WoW copy.
people must be really ignorant to think AOC, is a wow copy. Wow hasent gotten 1 original idea, everything has been borrowed or stolen from Others. especially their story has largely been borrowed from Tolkens and Warhammers universe. (speaking of the Tolken and warhammer books/comics ofcause), but also things like the combat system etc, is almost a direct ripoff of other mmos.
Sure conan has borrowed things to, especially alot of things from Daoc and so on, but i dont se that makes it a Daoc clone at all.
What i especially like with this mmo, is it aims at an older crowd, both with their story and game play (20+ would i say), and the fact that they try to make good mmo system, with blood money, fort Seiges etc. totally unlike wow, where people who is only over 17, feels over the hill, and the pvp system is primitive at best. But the number 1, all time best thing about this game, is, NO elves!! No elves at all
And to say that Age Of Cohan is a copy of WoW
i mean WTF [excuse my language], WoW is nothing like AOC exept them both being MMO's and in a fantasy setting. People comparing AOC to WoW are just trolling i say, and remember this site terms trolling as someone who posts to provoke a responce.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand